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A19033 The plea for infants and elder people, concerning their baptisme, or, A processe of the passages between M. Iohn Smyth and Richard Clyfton wherein, first is proved, that the baptising of infants of beleevers, is an ordinance of God, secondly, that the rebaptising of such, as have been formerly baptised in the apostate churches of Christians, is utterly unlawful, also, the reasons and objects to the contrarie, answered : divided into two principal heads, I. Of the first position, concerning the baptising of infants, II. Of the second position, concerning the rebaptising of elder people. Clyfton, Richard, d. 1616. 1610 (1610) STC 5450; ESTC S1572 214,939 244

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apostle_n do_v witness_v say_v 17_o say_v gal._n 3._o 17_o and_o this_o i_o say_v that_o the_o covenant_n which_o be_v confirm_v afore_o of_o god_n in_o respect_n of_o christ_n the_o law_n which_o be_v 430_o year_n after_o can_v disannul_v where_o it_o be_v to_o be_v note_v 1._o that_o this_o covenant_n that_o be_v give_v to_o abraham_n be_v but_o one_o 2._o that_o it_o be_v in_o respect_n of_o christ_n &_o therefore_o be_v that_o spiritual_a covenant_n 3._o that_o it_o be_v confirm_v unto_o he_o which_o be_v more_o than_o a_o bare_a offer_n second_o i_o deny_v that_o god_n ever_o make_v any_o carnal_a covenant_n either_o with_o abraham_n or_o with_o the_o israelite_n see_v he_o make_v but_o two_o testament_n all_o with_o his_o people_n and_o both_o of_o they_o spiritual_a the_o new_a testament_n yo●_n grant_v to_o be_v spiritual_a and_o that_o the_o old_a be_v so_o the_o apostle_n do_v witness_v col_v the_o law_n which_o be_v a_o part_n of_o the_o old_a testament_n both_o †_o holy_a 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they_o to_o be_v his_o people_n for_o that_o can_v not_o be_v by_o any_o other_o covenant_n then_o only_o by_o that_o in_o christ_n there_o be_v no_o reconciliation_n to_o god_n 19_o god_n 2_o cor._n 5._o 19_o but_o in_o he_o and_o although_o the_o spirit_n be_v the_o 14._o the_o ronvere_n 8._o 15._o 16._o 2_o cor._n 1._o 22._o &_o 5_o 5._o gal._n 4._o 6_o ephe._n 1._o 14._o earnest_n or_o pledge_n of_o god_n promise_n in_o our_o heart_n yet_o for_o the_o further_a strength●_n 〈◊〉_d and_o confirm_v of_o our_o weak_a faith_n the_o lord_n both_o before_o the_o law_n to_o a_o 〈…〉_o ham_n and_o so_o under_o the_o law_n and_o likewise_o under_o the_o gospel_n have_v to_o his_o 〈◊〉_d venant_fw-la annex_v certain_a outward_a sign_n as_o seal_n thereof_o and_o thus_o you_o have_v set_v down_o your_o distinction_n of_o two_o covena_fw-es 〈…〉_o wish_v that_o they_o may_v be_v remember_v and_o orderly_o apply_v and_o the_o argument_n say_v you_o 〈…〉_o will_v appear_v of_o no_o value_n etc._n etc._n there_o can_v be_v no_o orderly_a apply_v of_o disorderly_a thing_n your_o distin_a 〈…〉_o on_o bring_v all_o out_o of_o order_n and_o therefore_o this_o double_a covenaunt_n be_v deny_v and_o not_o by_o you_o prove_v my_o argument_n stand_v firm_a in_o all_o the_o part_n thereof_o and_o the_o mayor_n understand_v of_o that_o spiritual_a covenant_n of_o god_n make_v with_o abraham_n and_o his_o seed_n the_o minor_a be_v true_o assume_v out_o of_o the_o mayor_n and_o so_o be_v no_o sophism_n furthermore_o the_o cross_n of_o christ_n have_v not_o abolish_v the_o covenant_n make_v unto_o abraham_n but_o confirm_v it_o nor_o yet_o abrogate_a the_o seal_v thereof_o save_o only_o change_v the_o outward_a sign_n that_o thereby_o he_o may_v put_v some_o
the_o law_n ordain_v to_o like_a use_n unto_o the_o jew_n 〈…〉_o m_o this_o placeis_n that_o there_o be_v two_o seed_n ishmael_n of_o abra_n 〈…〉_o carnal_a seed_n and_o isaac_n of_o abraham_n and_o sarah_n 〈…〉_o seed_n 〈…〉_o this_o type_n the_o 〈…〉_o that_o hagar_n &_o ishmael_n do_v shadow_n 〈…〉_o law_n with_o her_o child_n 〈…〉_o bondage_n and_o sarah_n &_o ●_o jerusalem_n and_o her_o child_n which_o 〈◊〉_d and_o son_n by_o promise_n ●nding_v hereby_o not_o only_a abraham_n 〈◊〉_d seed_n 〈…〉_o e_o under_o bondage_n 〈◊〉_d through_o the_o observation_n of_o the_o law_n look_v for_o 〈…〉_o tion_n but_o all_o o_o 〈…〉_o s_o whatsoever_o that_o by_o pretend_v to_o observe_v the_o law_n ●●pe_v thereby_o to_o be_v instify_v as_o by_o apply_v this_o doctrine_n to_o the_o galathian_o appear_v but_o you_o say_v hagar_n and_o ishmael_n type_v the_o carnal_a seed_n after_o the_o flesh_n ●_o all_o that_o the_o apostle_n say_v be_v this_o that_o he_o that_o be_v bear_v of_o the_o servant_n 〈…〉_o e_o after_o the_o 〈◊〉_d mean_v thereby_o that_o he_o be_v not_o born●_n by_o promise_n 〈◊〉_d mother_n that_o be_v free_a as_o isaac_n be_v and_o so_o do_v typ●●●t_v as_o afore_o 〈◊〉_d the_o state_n and_o condition_n of_o they_o that_o seek_v justification_n by_o the_o work_n of_o 〈…〉_o what_o you_o affirm_v more_o than_o this_o you_o must_v prove_v 3._o you_o say_v there_o be_v two_o seal_n circumcision_n a_o seal_n of_o the_o carnal_a 〈…〉_o 〈◊〉_d carnal_a child_n gen._n 17._o 11._o and_o the_o holy_a spirit_n of_o promise_n a_o 〈◊〉_d spiritual_a covenant_n upon_o the_o spiritual_a seed_n ephe._n 1._o 13._o first_o i_o deny_v that_o circumcision_n be_v the_o seal_n of_o any_o other_o covenant_n ●_o ●_o 〈◊〉_d ●_o gal._n ●_o gen._n ●_o of_o that_o †_o one_o covenaunt_n make_v with_o abraham_n 〈…〉_o of_o christ_n w_o 〈…〉_o be_v confirm_v unto_o *_o he_o and_o to_o his_o seed_n thereby_o a_o 〈…〉_o spirit_n call_v circumcision_n a_o 4._o a_o gal._n 4._o seal_n of_o the_o righteousness_n of_o 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17._o 7-12_a although_o you_o labour_v to_o infringe_v the_o the_o testimony_n of_o the_o apostle_n say_v that_o it_o be_v not_o the_o scope_n of_o the_o place_n but_o this_o viz._n that_o circumcision_n have_v one_o specialitie_n in_o abraham_n differ_v from_o all_o other_o that_o by_o circumcision_n he_o be_v seal_v up_o to_o be_v the_o father_n of_o all_o the_o faithful_a as_o concern_v the_o matter_n of_o their_o justification_n etc._n etc._n the_o word_n of_o the_o apostle_n be_v so_o plain_a as_o you_o can_v shift_v they_o off_o for_o paul_n prove_v that_o abraham_n be_v justify_v by_o faith_n and_o that_o faith_n be_v impute_v unto_o he_o for_o righteousness_n when_o he_o be_v uncircumcised_a say_v after_o he_o receive_v the_o sign_n of_o circumcision_n as_o the_o seal_n of_o the_o righteousness_n of_o faith_n which_o he_o have_v when_o he_o be_v uncircumcised_a ram._n 4._o 9_o 10._o 11._o do_v not_o the_o apostle_n plain_o affirm_v that_o circumcision_n be_v a_o seal_n of_o 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circumcision_n by_o which_o the_o jewish_a child_n be_v receive_v into_o the_o covenant_n that_o must_v type_n out_o baptism_n by_o which_o say_v you_o the_o party_n so_o qualify_v shall_v be_v receive_v into_o the_o new_a testament_n actual_o or_o else_o show_v a_o reason_n why_o this_o ceremony_n of_o baptism_n be_v add_v to_o the_o truth_n as_o you_o expound_v it_o and_o nothing_o add_v to_o the_o type_n to_o shadow_v out_o baptism_n this_o be_v not_o proportioable_a that_o there_o must_v be_v a_o ceremony_n add_v to_o the_o truth_n in_o receve_v in_o of_o member_n into_o the_o church_n now_o since_o the_o come_n of_o christ_n and_o not_o any_o to_o the_o type_n in_o receive_v in_o of_o member_n into_o the_o church_n before_o his_o come_n last_o if_o you_o will_v keep_v proportion_n you_o must_v compare_v together_o circumcision_n and_o baptism_n both_o which_o do_v lead_v to_o the_o circumcision_n of_o the_o hart_n &_o be_v the_o seal_n of_o one_o and_o the_o same_o covenant_n 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spiritual_a covenant_n and_o therefore_o his_o circumcision_n a_o seal_n thereof_o for_o the_o type_n and_o truth_n must_v have_v relation_n to_o the_o same_o thing_n or_o covenant_n last_o christ_n be_v a_o minister_n of_o the_o circumcision_n for_o the_o truth_n of_o god_n to_o confirm_v the_o promise_n unto_o the_o father_n rom._n 15._o 8._o also_o i_o deny_v that_o circumcision_n be_v first_o give_v as_o a_o seal_n of_o obedience_n to_o the_o law_n of_o moses_n see_v the_o law_n be_v not_o give_v when_o circumcision_n be_v ordain_v but_o 1●_n but_o gal._n 3._o 1●_n 430._o year_n after_o the_o thing_n to_o be_v seal_v be_v to_o go_v before_o the_o seal_n or_o else_o it_o be_v preposterous_a and_o the_o seal_n without_o fruit_n neither_o be_v it_o give_v to_o be_v a_o seal_n of_o a_o carnal_a promise_n in_o deed_n abraham_n receive_v the_o covenant_n of_o grace_n god_n together_o with_o it_o promise_v unto_o he_o and_o his_o seed_n the_o land_n of_o canaan_n but_o he_o never_o 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the_o faithful_a and_o they_o be_v not_o the_o seed_n of_o abraham_n according_a to_o the_o flesh_n yea_o some_o infant_n circumcise_v shall_v be_v type_n as_o the_o carnal_a seed_n of_o abraham_n and_o other_o infant_n circumcise_v as_o well_o as_o they_o to_o wit_n the_o child_n of_o the_o proselyte_n shall_v be_v no_o type_n for_o you_o say_v the_o infant_n of_o the_o faithful_a do_v possess_v the_o place_n of_o the_o typical_a child_n of_o abraham_n according_a to_o the_o flesh_n and_o thus_o your_o own_o reason_n agree_v not_o with_o itself_o nor_o you_o with_o the_o truth_n second_o i_o ask_v you_o if_o the_o child_n of_o abraham_n according_a to_o the_o flesh_n be_v not_o the_o child_n of_o the_o faithful_a paul_n say_v *_o that_o all_o our_o father_n be_v under_o the_o cloud_n be_v all_o baptise_a unto_o moses_n and_o do_v all_o eat_v the_o same_o spiritual_a meat_n 5._o 1_o cor._n 10._o ●_o 5._o &_o drink_v the_o same_o spiritual_a drink_n etc._n etc._n and_o in_o the_o 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