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A18003 A discourse, concerning two diuine positions The first [ef]fectually concluding, that the soules of the faithfull fathers, deceased before Christ, went immediately to heauen. The second sufficientlye setting foorth vnto vs Christians, what we are to conceiue, touching the descension of our Sauiour Christ into hell: publiquely disputed at a commencement in Cambridge, anno Domini 1552. Purposely written at the first by way of a confutation, against a booke of Richard Smith of Oxford, D. of Diuinity, entitled a Refutation, imprinted 1562, & published against Iohn Caluin, & C. Carlile: the title wherof appeareth in ye 17. page. And now first published by the said Christopher Carlile, 1582. Carlile, Christopher, d. 1588? 1582 (1582) STC 4654; ESTC S107537 141,619 356

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in barathro nullum reperitur Adiuit Nusquam Erebū corpus Christi Num sensibus orbū Corpus obire potest vastissima regna tyranni Tartarei quò nunc descendit corpus in antrum Horti cuiusdam Tumulo surrexit ab imo Quid corpus Corpus rectà petiisse sepulchrum Dicitur hand animus nihil immortale sepulchr●… Conditur Inclusum fuit ergo sindone corpus Per triduum haud vltra tumulū pi●… symbola mittū●… Christum imo vero condemnant symbola monstra Et portenta hominum qui christū in tartara trudū●… 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 appellant monumentum symbola Christi Hunc sensum verba vires sermonis hebr●…i Me doeuere ●…ec vsquam aliud me credere poss●… In mentem induxi sic stat sententia librum Hunc fidei commendo tuae commendo tutel●… ¶ DOCTOR SMITH WRITING AGAINST Iohn Caluine and Christopher Carlil entituleth his Booke as followeth Refutatio luculenta crassae exitiosae heresis Iohannis Caluini Christophori Carlili Angli qua astruunt Christum non descendisse ad infero alios quàm ad infernum infimum qui locus est damnatorū perpetuus aut ad sepulchrum A manifest refutation saith Smith of a grosse and pestilent heresie of Iohn Caluine and Christopher Carlil an Englishe man wherein they affirme that Christ descēded into none other Hels than to the lowest hell which is a perpetual place of the damned or into his graue Thus farre the Title of Smith his Booke CARLIL I Maruell M. Smith what cause you had to write againste me whom you neuer saw who ●…euer offended you who neuer reasoned with you who neither had put in print any booke either in Englishe or Latine neither you euer knew me Smith I heard say that you did defende in the yeare of Christ 1552. at the Commencemente in Cambridge that Christ neuer descended into Hell and that Sir Iohn Cheeke Knight one of King Edwards Coūsell did dispute with you and certaine others Carlil It is so Smith I haue againste you long custome olde Authoures generall councels and diuers Creedes Carlil Custome without Scripture is cause of errour Authours without the worde are to bee reie●… 〈◊〉 without Christ are worthie of reproofe And where you alledge diuerse Credes to them I will answere when you aduouche them I require Scripture for withoute it I will beléeue nothing to be necessary to saluation though you bring Carteloades of Doctors and deuises Smith Saint Gregory alleageth Gen. 3. 24. no man sayth he mighte enter into that place which was defended by the Aungels called Cherubins and with flaming burning Sworde but Paradise was so defended ergo no man might enter in till Christe came and remoued them awaye by his ascention into heauen Carlil If you vnderstand by Paradise heauen felicitie as Christe ●…oth Luk. 23. 42. We must nedes confesse that the Cherubins were neither so vnmerciful neither the ●…aked sword so terrible to y e iuste neither of suche force as to kéep ●…ut the faithful vnto whose faith the Cherubins gaue place y ● sword remoued and the way was open the faithful of all ages let into the celestial Paradise for to the faithfull Paradise is neuer shut to the vnfaithfull it is neuer open Faith is the keye that openeth the locke vnto euerlasting life Faith is not onely a sure and infallible expectation of heauenly ioyes but also an apprehensiō of the same For where Faith ceaseth there beginneth immortality Where hope maketh an end there is the ful perfection full fruitien full contemplation of the maiestie of Iehoua Let vs expound the text according to the letter Adam saw this vision sensibly in the aer as Dauid an Angel with a naked sweard 1. Chro. 21. 2. Sam. 24. 16. Iosua 5. 13. and Balam Num. 22. 31. to declare that no man shoulde eate of the tree of liues that is to haue felicitie till he departe oute of this life and to shewe that no man by his own merites should ascende into heauen wher the tree of liues is kept with the sworde from all them whiche passe not through tribulations by faith whereby entrie is made into heauen Epiphanius iudgeth this vision to haue appeared to Adam that he might thereby admonishe his children that by his example they might be reduced frō sinne Augustine is of the former opinion Lib. 2. contra Manichaeos cap. 23. Tom. 3. And of the later de gen ad lite lib. 11. cap. 40. This Uision which Adam sawe was in the aer heauē is aboue the aer many thousand miles This was before the gates or entrie into the terrestriall paradise you feigne it to bee at the gates of heauen This was for a terrour to Adam and to his posteritie for his transgression This is remoued by faith this giueth place to the iust Christe entred not into the terrestriall Paradise but into the heauenly Luk. 23. 42 43. 2. Cor. 12. 2. It was the terrestriall Pararadise where this vision was seen Smith I perceaue that you make two paradises the one celestiall the other terrestriall which you will haue to be the whole earth Carlil That is my meaninge notwithstanding paradise by a Metaphor ys taken for prosperitie and pleasant places To the which Tirus and Assiria and the lande of Israell are compared Ezech 27. 28. 31. 36. Ioel. 2. Gen. 13. By the lyke metaphor in the newe Testament it is taken for felicitie for the bosome of Abraham and the kingdome of heauen Luk. 23. 2 Cor 12. Reuelat. 2 By this discourse their dreames are easely confuted who place paradise withoute the tropiks or vnder y ● equator or in a highe montayn●… or in the circle of the mone or in the middle region of y ● aire or in Fortunatis insulis or in campis Elisiis Amongst the latins so many doctoures so many opinions Could there grow any trees in y e aire or any beasts be fed about y e mone ether flouds run such other thinges whiche were all in Paradise Wherefore certayne of the gre kes as Chrisostome Theodoret Epiphanius accuse such dreamers and specially they reproue Origene with certaine Heriticks who either expounded paradise allegorically or anagogically The Iewes are more monstrous and phantasticall who saye that god prepared paradise before the creation to receue the iust as thei departed which is not so but it may be a figure of heauenly felicitie which was prepared to that effecte before the foundation of the worlde Ephesi 1. And therefore some translate Michedem from the beginning other some from the Easte Smith Iacob lamenting the death of his sonne Ioseph whom he thought had beene deuoured of wilde beasts saide I will descende downe vnto my sonne lamenting into hell Nowe if Iaacob were in Hell and also his sonne Ioseph who were both ful of faith and good workes then
bōdage of corruptiō into the glorious liberty of the sonnes of God For we knowe y ● euery creature groneth with vs also and trauaileth in paiue with vs euen vnto this time The time was spent by this kind of reasoning and such like vntill that Doctor Perne gaue sentence determining that Christes bodye laye in the graue but his soule wente into hell This his conclusion as his opinion was then is vtterly subuerted by this booke The Papistes and ioily Iesuites ground all their Religion vpon their high Prouost and on his malignant church they crye O the Church the Churche Iehoua commaunded the Iewes not to trust in false lying wordes where y ● like phrase is saying Here is the temple of the Lord here is the Temple of the Lord here is y ● Temple of y ● Lord they triumphe in ignorance which to them is the mother of deuotion Deuotion without knowledge is dotage knowledg without vertue is ostentation praying to dead men or for the dead or to Angells is Superstitio●… counterfayte holines is Hypocrisie They teach the doctrines of men their forefathers traditions reproued by the Prophers condemned by Christ who with Peter tearmeth them Patro Paradota This matter of Christes descending into hell is an Article of their faith onely proued by Reuelations dreames and erroneous Doctors to be briefe there is nothing 〈◊〉 absurd which they do not affirme Paule the 4. in his Bul to the Duke of Florence calleth him self King of Kinges Lord of Lordes Prince of the vniuersall Earth Pius Quintus writeth thus All power in Heauen earth is giuen to me Gregory y ● 9. a Iusty lim of Sathan writeth thus of himself The Pope is of power to binde and lose is Christes vicegereat which is a Priest for euer according to the order of Melchisedech appointed of God to be iudge of the quick and dead of which Antichristian blasphemies together with many moe of him and other Popish decrees I haue more at large discoursed in my booke of Peters neuer being at Rome To omit this fabulous pernitio●…s doctrine of y ● Papistes w t their traditions ceremonies inuentiōs let vs study y t scriptures wher in is conteyned eternal life which are negligētly ●…ead of the professors thereof de●…ided by the Atheistes discredited defaced by the Papists and depraued by the Iesuites contemptuously blasphemously deriuing their name frō Iesus ●… thing by none euer heretofore were they neu●… so pestilent heretiques attempted May we not 〈◊〉 iudge them impious I●…pes and desperate members of that malignant Synagog●…e who thus dare to their owne perdition so shamelesly abuse so reuerend a name wherunto each knee ●…oth bowe both of thinges in heauen of things ●…n earth of thinges vnder the earth besides whom there is none other name wherin mākind ●…an be saued For this name Iesus is as proper ●…o Christ onelye as Iehoua is vnto God Iudeede we that haue giuen our names professions vnto Christ by the warrant of Gods word do tearme our selues Christians for that we are by his spirit annointed But these sedstious Se●…inaristes tearming themselues Iesuites arrogantly ascribe to themselues a share portion if ●…ot an entire interest in y e saluatiō of mankind and therby robbe Iesus of his office I knowe that some of them eyther of ignorance or of obstinacie will obiect that aswell y t fonne of Nun ●…s also the sonne of Syrach was named Iesus but they shew themselues therin vtterly ignorāt of the Hebrue Tongue wherin their names be written not Iesus but sosua The same Iesus ●…n his good time graunt vnto them that calling conuersion which he gaue vnto Paul that they and we with one mind may iointly glorify the onely Lord Iehoua Amen Illustriss idémque eruditiss 10. Chekus Eques auratus Consiliarius Regius finita hac in Comitiis Cantabrigiensibus disputatione 1552. suum huic argumento assensum senariis sequentibus testatum posteris voluit Partem in vtranque quaestiones public●… Cum disputaremus corona maxima Anno idque Soteris ses quimille●…ima Et quinquagesimo secundo plurimos Locos argumenta protuli quibus Huius virs sententiam subuertere Conabar Atqu●… victus prole Temporis Quae Veritas dicta est caepi sententia●… Mutare firmamenta illius p●…nderans Uer●…nique quod cod●…x hic tradit dicere The same in English What time commencement holden amongst the learned men In Cambridge wherto great resort was from farre and nere was then In the yeare of Christ a thousād ful fiue hundreth fifty twaine I brought forth scriptures quoted texts and sentences did straine This mans opinion to confute with all my whole entent In open audience being then the onely Respondent But fainting in my proofes at length and wresting textes amisse I straightwayes yeelded vnto Truth of Tyme who daughter is For wayghing al his words of waight which did his cause pursue I Sir Iohn Cheeke do here aduouch his iudgement to be true And firmelye with him do confesse and do beleue it well That Christ in body nor in soule descended into hell Apotheosis Maiorum per C. Carlilum Quo nos praesidio fidei penetramus end●… In caelum priscos constat abisse patres Ignatius ad Trall anno 107. Corpora cōmemorat Christū eduxisse sepulta 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 vita a●… restituisse nouae 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 appellant monumēta vbi corpora longo Tempore sub gleba delituere putri Io. Scotus Ann. 1300. Christi iter ad manes ad infima tartara scripti●… Sese diuinis posse probare negat Augustinus Steuchus Eugub Anno. 1530. in Gen. 37. Quae Lyra delirus de limbo sōniat algent Ad lemures nullū Christus habebat iter Pecokus Episcopus Lincolniēsis Omnino nullam Christū penetrasse Geennam Nec veterum manes eripuisse liquet Io. Caluinus c. 7. Sect. 25. Dum cruce penderet Christum lustrasse barathrum Dicit immeritam sustinu●…sse necem Theodorus Beza in Act 2. 27. 1. Pet. 3. 18. Beza per ignotas Erebi transisse lacuna●… Aut Limbos Christum totus vbique negat Christoph. Carlilus Carlilu Christi monumentum nominat 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 In qua per triduum sede locatus erat Sapphica T. Newtoni Corpus in clauso iacuit sepulchro Mortuum Christi triduo sepultum Caelitum sedes animus capessens Gaudi●… sensit Mortuum corpus potuit nequaquam Ire scrutando barathri lacunas An putas manes miseri trahendos Ditis ab antro Absit ve trudam dominum saelutis In specum diris furiis dicatum Aut in humani generis profundam Hostis abyssum H. Hales in expositionem Symboli Quid●…am concipitur Corpus Quid nascitur inde Corpus Quid patitur corpus Quae mortua Christ●… Pars Corpus Perrae quid conditur antro Corpus Tartareum quid●…am descendit ad orcum Corpus At
muste needs the Fathers before Christ descende into hell and came not oute till Christ fetched them out Carlil Why doe you saye that Iacob went to Hell when as al our English Bibles say that he wente into his graue Is the graue hell Resteth not the bodye there without life without senses withoute payne or tormentes There is paine intollerable in hell without release tormentes without intermission and damnation withoute ende The text sayth not after your translation that the soule of Iacob descended into Hell but it saythe that Iacob went into Sheol meaning his body without life and senses Smith I meane that Iacobs soule went to hell Carlil But the text saith that it was Iacob and the gray heads of Iacob Are there any graye heades in hell Are you not ashamed so to Dreame so to affirme and so to write When wee saye that Iacob or any other man is dead we meane not that his soule is dead whiche can not dye for it is immortall A deade man is called a man but a soule is neuer called a man after that it is departed but a soule Wherefore by your owne fantasie it was the bodye of Iacob that went to hell Iacob sayde that they would bring his gray heares to the graue hee doeth not call his gray heares his soule neither are there any graye heares in heauen nor yet in hell for they consume in the graue It is oure Englishe phrase that when wee are offended with our vnthriftie children wee say that they will bring our graye heares to the graue with sorrowe Smith I followe S. Hieromes translation which hath in Infernum into hell I knowe that all your Englishe Bibles putte the graue for hell Shall we giue more credit to your Englishe translations then to S. Hierome then to all the Greke and Latin Doctors which haue hel and not the graue in their writings and expositions Carlil If the text be not faithfully translated nor truly imprinted y ● faithfull interpretation is to be had from the Hebrue and in like manner the truth of the new Testament out of the Greke text Thus muche the councel kept at Vienna in France a littel way from Lyons in the yeare of Christ 1309. Lib. 5. Clement Tit. 3. S. Hierome did not translate the Bible out of the Greke but out of the Hebrue and therby did correct the Greke and Latin translations and the same councel geueth Augustine who willeth all men to consider the propertye of euery tounge and especially the Hebrue and Greke August lib. 1. de sermone Domini in mont in lib. retract 1. cap. 7. ad Volusian epist. 1. contra Faust. Manich. lib. 11. de doctrina christiana lib. 1. ca. 5. li. 2. cap. 15. Now seeing that the propertie of euerie thinge the truth of the Text the righte sense of the Scripture is to bee had out of the Hebrue toung and phrase we must runne to it as to the fountayne Smith I vnderstand not Hebrue no more did S. Augustine nor Chrisostome but in obscure places they asked the Iewes what was the propertie of this worde or that and of this phrase or that phrase Carlil Sheol in this place is the Graue as it is in the 44. Chap. vers 31. where the Sonnes of Iacob said they should bring the gray heade of their father to the Graue In all these places Sheol is taken for the graue This Sheol S. Hierome translateth Infernum which is a place belowe where the bodies are buried meaning therby a graue So wryte also Photius and Theodoret The same worde Sheol is in the 1. of the kinges the 2. chap. ver 9. where in the same phrase Dauid chargeth Salomon to cause y ● hoare heade of Semei to go down into the graue with bloud And Chrisostome interpreting the 9. ver of the 4. ch of Paule to the Ephesians calleth the inferior partes of the earth whether Christe descended Death and alleageth this place of Ge. 44. 31. to prooue the same Lyra though in other places he taketh Sheol for hel yet is he compelled here to take it for the graue of Ioab for sayeth he Dauid did not meane that Ioab shoulde goe to hell but that hee shoulde bee punished temporally And the Psal. 143. ver 8. I shall bee like to them that go downe to the pit that is saith Chrisostome I shall be like to them that die Thus to go downe into the pit and to go to Sheol is al one phrase one sense one meaning which you translate hell Smith Though I am but a small grecian I knowe that the grekes called the 72 interpreters 6 of euery tribe appointed by Ptolome kinge of Egipt to translate the Bible haue 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 eis hadou to hell Car. You must consider Maister Smith that 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 doeth not signifie hell where in are Deuils and damned soules tormented for euer vnlesse that tormentes bee ioyned withal as in Luk. 16. The Greekes say that hades hath his name of not seing as who saye a place of darkenesse and Pluto the king of the earth is so called and to this effect writeth Ambrose and Augustine The olde Greekes as Homer and Euripides take hades for the graue as 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 and Latine Poets also as Virg. Iuuenes tot miserat Orco And Ouid Saturno tenebrosa in tartara misso Notwithstanding the first Grecians as Sibylla Erythrea deryue Ades of Adam who is the earthe and thereof hath his name Gen. 2. vers 7. Hee made man of the duste of the earthe therfore God sayeth in Ge. 3. vers 19. that thou art dust or earth and to dust or earth thou shalt returne Wherfore this earth this place that graue vnto the whiche Adam should returne is called of his name Adam and the grekes altred it a little framed it to their tongue and called it Aden chaunging a. into e. and m. into n. Thus writeth Sibyll Aden appellant vbi primus conditur Adam Mortē obiēs quē terra abdit decoratque sepulchro Hinc fit vt humani generis linquentia vitam Corpora dicantur penetrare ●…ubilia Ditis The Greekes do cal Aden that place VVhere Adam was layd in the ground And where al other rest and s●…pe For so the Hebrue woord doth sounde Smith You reason muche of the Graue and place where Adam was buried I doe not reason of the Bodie but of the soule of Adam whiche I am sure descended into Hell and laye there almoste fower thousand yeres tyll Christe fetched him out Carlil He was not in Hell and therefore Christe coulde not fetche him out Smith Where was hee then Carlil In heauen Smyth How prooue you that Carlil Hee ascendeth immediatly ●…nto heauē that asketh pardon that ●…raueth mercye wyth a stedfaste faith but this did Adam ergo Adam ascended into heauen immediately after his death for the death of
deliuerye from Deathe GOD the Father loosed the Sorowes of the Deathe of hys sonne in raysinge him oute of hi●… graue in making him to triumphe ouer ●…cathe as yee maye reade in these plaine woordes And we declare vnto you how that the promise whiche was made vnto the fathers God hathe fulfylled to their children euen vnto vs in that he raysed vp Iesus againe Euen as it is written in the 2 psalme Thou ar●… my sonne this day haue I begorten the. As concerning that he raysed him vp from death nowe no more to returne to death or graue said on this wise The holy promises made vnto Dauid will I geue faithfully to you Wherefore he saythe also in another place Thou shalt not suffer thy holy one to see corruption The sorrowes of deathe are like vnto the dominion of deathe and feare of Deathe from the whiche God deliuered Christ in raisīg him againe As deathe is here called the sorrowes of deathe soo is it called the stinge of deathe and the stinge of the Sepulcher 1. Cor. 15. ver 55. 56. the torment of death Wisd. 3. ver 2. the gates of deathe wis ●…6 ver 4. the dust of deathe Psal. 22. ver 15. the snares of deathe Pro. ●…3 ver 14. the shadowe of deathe Hier. 13. ver 15. Psal. 23. ver 4. Luk. ●… ver 79. the gates of deathe Psal. ●…07 verse 15. the same is called the the gates of the graue Math. 16. ver 18. 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 The same woordes are in the Ps. ●…8 and verse 5. Chebele●… m●…uetb In the 72. 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Whereunto Peter respected and in the 6. verse Chebeli she oll the sorrowes of the graue Whiche place the olde translatour of the newe Testament semed to haue folowed in the seconde of the Actes verse 24. 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 And in the 18. psalm verse 7. the snares of deathe in the same sense withe the sorrowes of deathe Mocheshie mai●… eh 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 To rayse Christe from death a●… to loose the sorowes of Deathe ar●… both one For the Greekes vse t●… putte a ●…erbe and Participle bo●… of one Signification to expresse a●… Emphasis to amplify the Oration to make the sence more manifest And so is it here 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 and 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 What else is it to raise Chri●… from Deathe then to loose the Sorowes of Death or to loose the sorowes of Death then to rayse hy●… oute of hys Graue One example amongst a thousande I alledge o●… of Nonnus vppon the Eleuenth 〈◊〉 Iohn 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Whereas also 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 is put for th●… Graue or Death That it was G●… the father that raysed Christ and 〈◊〉 loused the sorowes of Death thes●… places in the margent among other do testify most manifest in y ● Galathians These places with manie other declare his death resurrection but not one word of his descending into hell I haue bene y ● longer in this point because that I do sée others bothe olde writers and newe to apply these sorowes to Christ whiche hée loused and not to God his father who in dede loused these sorowes in raisinge of Christ from deathe Peruse y e Greke text perpend y ● authorities alleaged kepe in memory y e analogy of scripture consider the phrase cōposition of the wordes And you shall finde y ● aduersaries in an intolerable error the truth ●…iuersly oppressed to preuaile like the date trée Caluine saith that it was not possible that Christ should be holden of the sorowes of deathe where Peter saith that it was not ●…ossible that Christ shoulde bee holden of death Marcion the heretique affirmed as you do that all went to hell before Christ You do say that he deliue●…ed Abell Enock Abraham and ●…he other faithful he saith that them ●…e deliuered not because that ●…hey woulde not come to him for they feared that he woulde tempte them and punishe them as he did whiles they liued But that them there he left and deliuered Caine the Sodomite Egyptians and suche other gentiles You say that Christ went to Hell and deliuered the Fathers But after what sorte ye do not declare Clemens Alexandrinus in the .6 Stromate woulde proue by Hermes that all the godly before Christ were in hell and not saued till the deathe of Christ and then they were conuerted there by the preaching of Christ and of his Apostles And thoughe that Ireneus saith that Martion sayde that the faythfull before Christ went to hell notwith standing the saide Clemens saithe that Martion said that the faithfull before Christ were saued whiche you denie Marke your inconstancy and Consider that one of your owne faction hath noted the same partly before me euen Paulus Cortesius some saithe he deny that the soule of Christ coulde go to hell and ransacke all the places of it because that ●…t hath no body and there fore could not go nor moue locally other saye y ● the soule didnot go nor moue as a body do●…h but as the angells do Durandus and Picus deny that his soule went to hell but that onely the effecte of his Passion ●…assed ouer all Thomas Aquine ●…roueth that Christ effectuallye ●…aked all the kenells ransacked all ●…he puddles and dongeons of hell ●…ut that his soule descended onely to that parte of hell where the blessed soules were Wherefore saith ●…e his soule went onely thether where the Faithfull soules were But the effect therof went through ●…l y ● other there you say y ● it went also to purgatory Notwithstandinge Hugo Victor ●…enyethe that hee went throughe Purgatorye for saythe hee here is no place of purgation in hel or out of this life but y ● euer●… synfull soule must be tormente●… and punished there where the o●… fence was committed Richard Villa stryuethe against●… Hugo and woulde plant a purgatory in the highest hell saue one Lutzenburge in the highest place Beholde your discorde You deny●… that the Soules of Limbus we●… punished Iohan. de turre cremata a Famous writer saith that thes●… soules were diuerse times of y e da●… terrified with the hell hownds molested with their terrible count●… tenaunce feared with their frowning and beaten with whippes and with intolerable tormentes And so gathereth out of Thomas The false Gospell ascribed to Nicodemus testyfieth as many a●…surdityes as you do How tha●… Orcus and Pluto reason how the●… myght kepe CHRIST ou●… of their kingdome they be such●… Prodigious fables as are in th●… ●…reames of Brigitta and in many of y ● schole men Which are tedious to repeat folishe to bée committed to wryting ridiculous to the wise impossible to be credited hurtfull ●…o the symple mynystryng occasion of errours and engendringe a thowsande-absurdityes But to
enflamed by this Spirite o●… Christ. Thirdly that the prison was th●… Bodyes of them within the which were enclosed these Bloudy cruell and malicious spirites If he ●…ée a●… euell wicked man we vse to call him a wicked Spirite This is the spirite of CHRIST and his diuine nature and almighty Power whiche I proue out of this place by this syllogisme That thinge whiche raysed Christ was GOD this Spirite did raise CHRIST Ergo this Spirite was God euen the holy Ghost the Thirde Person in Trinitye That onely God raysethe the Deade whiche is the first proposition it is euident and proued also in manye places The seconde Proposition called the assumption or minor is proued by thys place and by Rom. 1. verse 4. where it is written that the Spirite of Sanctification raysed Christ. For saythe Paule As it were interpreting this place CHRIST was Crucified throughe infirmytye of his Humaine Nature notwithstandinge hée raygnethe and liueth in his deuine nature For hi●… bad them dissolue the temple meaning his bodye and within thr●… dayes hee woulde raise it againe The properties of the trinity a●… geuen to them all in places as th●… w t Christ did I meane to redeme man is giuen to God as though h●… should redeme man with his bloud so here the spirite of Christ is said●… to raise him Where ye haue i●… Scripture the flesh and spirite applied to the persone of Christ th●… fleshe is his humanity and spirit●… his diuinity Of the whiche I ha●… noted vpon this place of Peter And vpon Hebrues 9. And that this i●… the spirite of Christ it is manyfe●… of the whole hystory which is set●… for the at large in Moses gen 6. Di●… not this same Christ in like man●… preach to Adam and Gain and reproued them he came in spirite t●… them as he did to these This spirite in moses is called the spirite of Iehoua here it is called the Spirite o●… Christ there it is said to haue ●…triuen withe man here it is sayde to haue gone and preached to the despe rate rebells in the dayes of Noe. There God saith that he will not suffer it alwayes to contend with man here Peter prescribeth a certaine tyme euen all the tyme y ● the arke was in preparing There are geuen them to repent 120. Yeares here the long suffering of God did loke for their amēdement So long there were 8. persones saued there was the arke in preparing 120. Yeares here in like maner is the same thinge mencioned There this spirite preached to fleshly men and carnall here to the desperate and disobedient There God is said to hane warned them by the spirite of holynes here by the spirite of Christ. There they be called giants which were so terible in countenaunce that they y ● looked vpon thē fell downe for Feare here they are called so obstinate that nether erhortation coulde preuaile neith●… threatning reduce thē from iniquity to honesty This spirite withi●… Noac and others did preach to thes●… impenitent Gyantes exhorted th●… malitious and woulde haue corre●…ted them Of this reade my note●… vpon Gen. 6 and 1. Peter 3. Nethe●… is this spirite in Moses the soule 〈◊〉 man as Chimi dreameth neither in Peter as Castalio translated no●… the worde as Athanasius reporte●… in his Epistle to Epictitus vnl●… that he take the worde for the hol●… ghost or for Christes diuine nature for the soule of man is a creature and this Spirite is the Spirite o●… Iehoua and the spirite of Christ i●… Peter Moreouer it was not mer●… mā that preached to those obstina●… offenders but it was the spirite 〈◊〉 Iehoua in Moses and in Peter th●… spirite of Christ. This spirite wa●… in Noac who is called the eight●… preacher of righteousnes For th●… other seuen I meane Noacs sonnes withe their wiues preached aswell ●…s he Noac was the eighte person ●…at was in the Arke a preacher ●…f Righteousnes ●…nd Erithrea Sibilla who writeth er selfe to be one of Noacs daughters in lawe specifieth howe that ●…od commaunded Noac to preache 〈◊〉 the Gyauntes God commaunded Noac to preache That they should dy both great smal ●…nlesse they would forsake their wayes And turne to him the God of all ●…osephus writeth the like lib. 1. c. 5. To what spirites preached this ●…irite of Christ the Text aunsweeth to them that were desperate ●…ebells in the dayes of Noac The tyme declare the that this spirite of Christ beinge within Noac ●…reached to them of Noacs dayes ●…piritually for some Bookes haue 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 They to whome this Spirite of Christ preached were in earth and not in Hell They were in time of Noac to whom Christ p●…ched These were in Hell T●… Spirite preached in the dayes Noac the Papists say that he p●…ched in Hell two thousand ye●… after this tyme and aboue 〈◊〉 did Christ saythe the Text wh●… the desperate were where the 〈◊〉 antes were where the disobedi●… were when the longe suffering●… God looked for their amendem●… when Noac liued Noac then 〈◊〉 not dead therefore not in Hell 〈◊〉 the Arke was in preparing w●… there were 8. persons saued Was the Arke made in H●… who were the Artificers w●… had they Timber where had 〈◊〉 pytche Were there any Bea●… in Hell If the Deluge had b●… in Hell then should all the De●… haue béene drowned for the T●… sayth that there were but ei●… saued Dothe Baptisme aunswere to yt Baptisme is in earthe Ergo the ●…eluge was in earthe And conse●…ently these spirits were in earth the Scripture calleth wicked mē●…pirites as Paule tearmeth erro●…ous men the Spirites of errour ●…en false ●…rophets as these are ●…o were called erroneous Spirits are they in Peter called disobedi●…t Spirites in the like Phrase Were not these desperate spirits 〈◊〉 disobedient Rebells infected ●…ith sensuality seduced with plea●…e vpon whome was powred 〈◊〉 Spirit of wyckednes as of the ●…inces Zoan and Noph ●…f this double Spirit I meane 〈◊〉 Spirit of God and the Spirit the worlde as Paule writeth of ●…ith reade my notes vpon the 1. ●…t 3. And Cicero a prophane wrivseth the same Phrase callinge so an impure Spirite Thoughe Lyra was drowned in ●…aming Limbus notwithstandīg he saythe that y e Doctors Glo●… do not vnderstand this of Chris●… descending into Hell for these his and their woordes He saye they that came in s●… in our tyme and preached the 〈◊〉 of lyfe to the world the very s●… comming in spirit preached bef●… the Deluge to them that were 〈◊〉 perate and liued carnally For he was by the holy Ghost Noac other good men by w●… conuersation he preached to 〈◊〉 euell men that they mighte bee●… ned vnto God Thus farre the Ordinary 〈◊〉 withe muche more matter to effecte This preaching saith
in the which places is Sheol which he translateth Inferos and vnderstandeth all these places of y ● resurrection of Christ neither can Lactantius neither dothe hee in anye place approue the descendinge into hell Can he say that Christ descended into hell y ● saith y ● there are but 2. places out of this life heauen and hell which shall be fylled with the iust and vniust at the last daye in the mean tyme no soule is iudged for they are all both good and euill kepte in one safe custodye till our ●…iuiour CHRIST shall come and iudge them If from the crea●… on they are all in one place no●… thence deliuered till the laste da●… Then if Christ had gone thither 〈◊〉 could not haue deliuered them w●… by Lactantius shall not come ou●… till the last day Neither did Lactantius dreame ●… any time of the descēding of Christ into Hell Galatinus saith that ther is no man holy vntill he be dead If he be hol●… and a saint when he is deade the●… were all the Faithfull of the 〈◊〉 Testament saintes and saued by ●… same Fayth that we haue for the●… and we haue all eate●… one foode ●…●…ronken of one kinde of drinke an●…●…epende vppon one Rocke euen Christe Galatinus semeth to be repugnant to himselfe for he saieth ●… al went to hel before Christs death He alledgeth out of a rotten Rabin●… called Iehosua that hell hath seue●… names and truthe it i●… that nous of those Seauen y●… the Hell where the damned soules are Neither accordinge to their Phan●…sticall dreames Limbus and Hell where infants are damned neither ●…here y ● fathers of the old testamēt 〈◊〉 nether purgatory as Iproue in this discourse The first is Sheol ●… that signifieth hell he citeth ●… 16. Psalme which I translate Thou shalt not forsake or leaue my bodye in the graue which I haue expounded before Abadon is the second name and in no place signifieth hell or any part of Hell but eyther the Graue ●…or Center or places in the earthe or anye thing●… that is loste and ioyned with Deathe for after deathe ●…oloweth the graue as in Iob. 26. 6. Iob. 28. 32. 31. 12. it is taken for y e graue and for that thinge that corrupteth in the Earthe as in Psal. 88. 12. the same thinge and Graue and is so called Psalme 88. verse 4. and in the 5. verse the Sepulcher and the Graue in the Sixte verse it is in solace the one in Abrahams besome full of Felicitye the other in Hell ful of misery and intollerable tormentes I haue a little before declared that Sheoll signifieth in the death of Iacob and Semoi onely the graue a●… the best Interpretors do translate Pagnine Munster Vatablus an●… as Chrisostome Photius and Theodoret expounde it writing vpon Paul Auenesra an Hebrue Doctor reproueth Onchelus for translating Sheol Geenna And Steuchus Library keper to Paule the Thirde Pope of that name inueyghethe againste Lyra saying that all those thinges are Dreames to deceyue and olde Wiues Fables to Blinde the simple People whiche hee wrytethe vpon liying Limbu●… or in sending Iacob to Hell whereas the Hebrue worde Sheol properly signifieth the Graue Augustine saithe that these are the woordes of Iacob to expresse his griefe notwithstanding he is variable Let vs repeate euerye place where Sheoll is founde in the Hebrewe Texte and proue by the Nature of the Worde propertye of the Phrase course of the Texte a●…alogye of the Scripture and Conference of the places where the Hebrue worde is founde what it is and how it oughte to be translated Where Dathan Core and Abiron withe their Confederates whiche were two Hundrethe and Fiftye murmured againste Moses and Aaron are sayd to descende into hell as the Latine Tranlation hathe it is not so to be translated It is an absurdity to call the earthe Hell or hell the earth Wherefore Sheol is here the earth which serued the sedetious Rebells for their graue And so is this place plainlier vttered in Ps. 106. ●…e 17. And after this sense Caietanus Fō●… seca Steuchus and Lyra though●… 〈◊〉 Catholique●… are compel●… led to expounde this place as I do●… Is it ●…ble that their bodyes their Namelies their goodes their substaunce tentes horses shéepe ●… or●…n descended into hell Dothe not the texte saye that they went all one waye hathe Sata●… anye néede of tentes can corporall thinges be in a spirituall place are there any bodyes in hell before the last day●… The hellhoundes néede no shepe n●… mutton to eate nor horses to ryd●… no apparell to put on for they are spirites and therefore néede none Wherefore Sheol is y ●earth in this place which swalowed them vp ●… closed them within it Neither dothe Augustine saye that they descended into hell but that y ● earth opened and deuoured them Here is ●…o be noted sayth the same Augustine y ● hell is here taken for the earth whither they did s●…nke For ●…nfernus is vsed as the sense re●…uirethe and here it signifiethe the inferiour pattes of the earth pro●…erlye spoken of the dead se muche Augustine with more ●…here God is so sore offended w t the Israelites for their Idolatry he saythe that his Anger is kindeled that hee will burne the bottome of hell ●…o dothe the Bible at Geneua translate Sheol If the bottome of Hell be burned and consumed with fyre then there is no hell It is in Hebrue vnto the earth beneath This Phrase signifieth the inferior partes of the earth Moses addeth y ● Epitheton bottom or inferiour to declare y ● vehemency of the wrath of God in punishīg the offendors as who saye that he woulde soo plague them that not ●…nclye the Superiour pa●…te of the Earthe shoulde bée Burned but also the inferior and inward parts where the springs are which shou●… be dryed vp the veynes of the 〈◊〉 so consumed that they shoulde neither yeelde Siluer Gold Tin●… Copper Yr●…n Leade or any 〈◊〉 ther Mineralles It is not like that a materiall F●… which is here n●…med should 〈◊〉 Spirituall thinges Neither can●… Hell bee consumed which place 〈◊〉 appointed for euer to burne 〈◊〉 tuallye the Deuill his Aungell●… Ministers This Fire continued for a seaso●… the other for euer This Fyre 〈◊〉 ned the earth the other the dan●… ned Soule●… This burned the 〈◊〉 dations of the Mountaynes 〈◊〉 ther the Hellhoundes This 〈◊〉 women and children with hung●… the other Sathans children Can a visible thinge burne an in●… uisible a worldly Fyre a Spiri●… all a fire sensible such as are 〈◊〉 to no senses wherefore this plac●… Deuteronomye is vnderstanded●… ●… fyre of such affliction of such tormentes and plagues as the Israe●…tes did suffer For God plagued ●…hem then liuing and not the dead There did God plague where the Israelites
expedient for there are twelue Articles besides and it is against y ● ●…alogy of our faith it ingendreth many inconueniences manye absurd opinions friuolous fables and phantasticall visions notwithstanding the phrase of the Hebrue and Greke and also of the Latyne shall easelye refell your erronious opinions and long custome the author of errour The septuaginta interpretors did for the most parte translate Sheol by Hades which they were assured ●…id signifie the graue and the circumstances thereof Afterward certaine doctors ignorāt in the Hebrue tongue and phā●…sying the fables of Plato of Latyne poets turned Hades infernum or inferos or orcum and the Englishe hell Whereof arose this pernicious ●…eresy of Christes descending into hell Notwithstanding I am able to proue out of Homer Sophocles 〈◊〉 ripid Virg. Ouid others y ● Had●… signifieth in them as wel the gra●… as it doth hel And the same is commonlye vsed of Ecclesiasticall writers for the graue and deathe For where Helias prayed to God that ●… widowes sonne of Sarophtha might be restored to life it is in Prodromus 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 there he calleth Hades deathe which others would translate hell against the mind 〈◊〉 Prodromus againste the praier o●… Helias against the wordes of th●… scripture The same Prodromus vttereth in plainer wordes calling it the gates of deathe 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 for Tabitha was dead which Christ calleth 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 And the same Prodromus so tearmeth the deathe of Christe from whence hee rose writing vpon the last of Mathewe and a litle before he calleth it 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 a tombe which he termeth here the gates of Hadou 〈◊〉 gates of death Nonnus in his ●…raphrase vpō Iohn where Christ 〈◊〉 y ● he would dissolue the temple meaning his body raise it vp the third day he vseth Borethron Hades where Christ spake onely of his resurrection For he saith y ● hee would rayse his owne body out of Hades out of his graue which place manifestly declareth y ● he raysed his body out of the graue not out of ●…ell For no man y ● is well in his wites will say that his body was in hell Wherefore Hades signifieth the graue and not hell as it may do in the Crede where as it is in the 〈◊〉 of Iohn that Lazarus was like to ●…ye or at the poynt to dye Nonnus hath 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 where Hades is taken fo●… death or for his graue by an other name y e same Nonnus calleth it Lazarus tombe 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 but there are no tombes in hell Hee calleth i●… Borethron and 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 all whiche Nonnus flatly cal calleth death and the graue fr●… the which Christ deliuered 〈◊〉 raysed Lazarus read Nonnus diligently Where Sybil writeth that Adam●… his children dyed she saith y ● the●… descended into Hades calling it th●… earth where they were buried 〈◊〉 that place where Christ was buryed she calleth the house of Pluto 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 And therefore i●… the 2. of the Actes Christ is said t●… haue bene 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 where is vnderstande 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 y ● he was in y e house 〈◊〉 Pluto meaning his graue If ye would folow your own phantasy ye can not fay that Christ was in hell but in y ● house of Pluto for 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 is alwayes with an accusatiue case either expressed or vnderstanded Neither signifieth Hades among●… the Grekes any thing els properly then Pluto for whē y ● diuision was made amonge y e three children of Saturne Iupiter was kinge in the East Neptune ouer the Iles Pluto in the west The poets and Grecians who filled the world full of fables O Graecia mendax assigned heauen to Iupiter the sea to Neptune the earth to Pluto where●…ore he is said to be the kinge of the ●…arth Homer Iliades reade Cic. 2. de natura deor Lact. 1. c 11. pluto hathe his name of riches for that out of the earth procedeth golde siluer corne ●…nd all other riches ●…nd as all thinges come out of the ●…arth so all thinges fall to the earth men our bodyes also as I haue no ●…ed before Now it is euident that Hades is ●…he house of Pluto which is y ● earth ●…d graues The which Pluto is ●…yde to haue dominion ouer the ●…ad 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Hades which 〈◊〉 translate hell hath dominion 〈◊〉 the dead where are the dead euen by Hom●… are they not in their graues Erg●… the graues haue dominion ouer t●… bodies till the last daye At the la●… daye the fier is said to burne Hades Shall hell be burned or not rath●… the earth which the same Sybil sa●… shall yealde the dead bodyes an●… calleth the earth Hades Auernus is a lake in Campania 〈◊〉 highe trées growinge about it 〈◊〉 thicke that as the inhabitants r●… porte the filthy sauour killed th●… birdes flynig ouer and therefore 〈◊〉 is taken for hell amonge the poet●… and dedicated to Pluto There are Cimerii that dwell i●… such darke dongeons that they ca●… neither see the sunne rise nor set 〈◊〉 by them the Poets imagine tha●… there is away to hell Styx is a pestilent puddle in Arcadia and poysoneth all liuing creatures that 〈◊〉 of it and therfore t●…en amonge the poets for a lake of hell Phlegeton is also a burning lake ●…id taken for a lake in hell All ●…hese as Strabo saith are fables and Acheron and Aechrusia are riuers ●…n Campania and taken for hell Tartarus is the lowest parte of the ●…arth and of the fabulus poets taken for hel a tarassein 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 a turbando 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 frigore 〈◊〉 reade Beza vpon 2. Petr. ●… verse 4. Let vs omit profane writers and returne to the scripture what Sheol ●…s It is euident in the 30. of Iob where the graue is defined and des●…ribed in other wordes I know saith Iob that thou wilt turne me to death an house of witnes to euery lyuing creature Iob calleth death an house of witnes so saith Ouid. Tendimus huc omnes haec est domus vl●…ima cunctis Se rius aut citius sedem proper●…mus ad v●…am To the earth we come both great and small an house for euery wight Betimes or late thether we hast a place for vs by right And the Chalde paraphraste calle●… it the house of the graue because the graue is as ●…n house to euery mortall man and therefore the. 7●… Interpretors cal●… the earth an hous●… to euery mortall thinge 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 In the ●…8 verse 〈◊〉 the 33. chapter of Iob Elihu saith 〈◊〉 God vseth many meanes to with drawe men from sinne and from death and the graue where Nephes is ioyned with Shacath as the same Nephes is with Sheol
in the. 16 Ps. and in the latter ende of the vers●… where Sheol is in y e fore end is shacath put which is the graue because that the bodies do corrupte in the graue so is Nephes ioyned with Shacath in Ps. 107. verse 20. to declare that they are both proper to the body and neither to the soule I meane neither Nephes neither Sheol neither shacath which is the same that Sheol is And to this ef●…ct that shacath is the graue the ●…2 Interpretours haue 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 ●…eath And a little after in the 20. ●…rse where Elihu saith that man ●…aweth nere to the graue and his 〈◊〉 to the dead The English By●…les haue The soule draweth to ●…e graue and life to the buriers ●…hat a translation is this to saye ●…at a mans soule draweth to the ●…aue do our Soules goe to the ●…aue can a Soule corrupt do not 〈◊〉 that go to the graue putrify why ●…ould they translate the text thus The man draweth to the graue ●…ard so we saye in English so doth ●…e Hebrue worde Nephes signifie 〈◊〉 as the 72. interpretors haue to ●…ath 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 neither do I as●…nt to the Englysh translations ●…ho translate me m●…t him to be bu●…ers nor to Munster who hath to ●…yers or murtherers interfectori●…us but to the dead for the whiche ●…ebrue worde the Gréeke translation hath but his life 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 whereby ye may vnderstand that the Grekes meaned the graue by Hades In the 28 and 30 verses of the same 33. chapter of Iob Shacath is read which y ● Grekes translate both corruption 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 also death●… 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 I decla●… a little after exactly how that Sheol is called by other names death and the nether partes of the earth and 〈◊〉 pit Now I will proue by the same order out of the scriptures that the other worde called Nephes is neuer applied to the immortall soule in the Hebrue Byble Which if I can proue it muste nedes folow y ● the Soule of Christ did neuer go●… to hell for y ● parte of Christ which they say descended into hell is Nephes in the 16 psal of Dauid which is the bodye of Christe as I shall proue piainlye in their obiection And it is a mere absurditye to affirme that the dead body did de●… scend into hell or any where els sauing onely into the graue Nephes which the Greekes haue translated 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 and the La●… nestes animam and the English the soul hath his name in Hebrue Chal●…ée Gréeke and Latine of breathing because that it cooleth and refresheth with respiring and breathing Nephes signifieth as much as ●…nima tam late patet Nephes is that breathing substāce sensitiue and liuely power and naturall motion whereby euery liuing ●…reature is norished and moued And this is of three sortes The first is vegetatiue and common to herbs and trees notwithstanding other l●…uing creatures do grow and are nourished The second is sensitiue which is common with beastes and men ●…or they féele see heare smel touch tast also they both haue affections motions and other per●…rbatiōs 〈◊〉 they 〈◊〉 and phantasy●… as men do they dreame they slepe they wake they sorrow ioy for see prouide desire wil receiue profitable things and refuse the contrary they loue hate remember they want only the immortall soule Where Aristotle semeth to say that Psyche and the partes thereof are corruptible and mortall and dy●… w t the body it is so but y e soul he affirmeth to come from God and to be immortall Aristotle will not haue the immortal soule to be any of y e three before Nephes may s●…me to some to be taken for the immortall soule in the 17. of Leui. in the 10. verse against him that eateth bloud saith God I will turne my face Nephes I trāslate Him or that man as Imanuel doth Leu. 17. 11. the life of y ● flesh is in y e bloud Life in hebrue is Nephes for the life is sustained by bloud ●… not the immortall soule I haue appoynted the bloud to be an expiation and purgation for 〈◊〉 euen for your sinnes for it is ●…his bloud that purgeth you Nephes I translate you for so it signi●…eth here Darash nephes to care for 〈◊〉 mans life Ps. 142. as in many other places The whole 16. chap. of ●…eu declareth this sacrifise of ex●…iation and purgation by bloude ●…ut it coulde not take away sinne ●…ut in them only who by faith con●…eiued and represented thereby the ●…loud of Christ their sacrifice cere●…onies figures shadowes figured Christ confer Heb. 8. 9. 10. neither ●…ould the bloud of bulls or gotes ●…ke away sinne Heb 10. 4. 11. This Nephes consisteth in senses ●…ouing and in affections and pro●…er to the body and dyeth with the ●…odye Wherfore in the first of Ge●…esis it is taken foure times for a ●…ature that hath life and hathe ●…aia ioyned with it which signifith the same Wherfore oftentimes 〈◊〉 alone it is a coarse a deade body and the dead ioined with Caiia it is a liuing creature Nephes is proper to the body and to th●…se partes of man which ryse with the body and dye with the body notwithstanding I think that it is no part of the immortal soule neither can it be mortall that is immortal as I shall proue in Neshama after that I haue done with Nephes Nephes consisteth in bloud breath life vitall spirite senses and in the whole mortall substaunce of anye liuelye and corruptible creatures And therefore suche liuing creatures haue their names of Nephes and therfore are called in latin anu mantes or animalia 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 of this naturall life giuen to them in their firste creation and generation Nephes is the bloud and is so defined Leuit. 17. 11. 4. The life of euery liuinge creature is the bloude Wherefore this Nephes is mortall Man likewise is written to haue this life Nephes Genes 2. verse 7. And it is the life of other liuinge creatures Gen. 2. verse 19. it is taken for the life which consisteth in the bloud Gen. 9. verse 4. Leu. 17. verse 14. My life saith Abrahā may bee preserued by thee O Sara where Nephes is Genes 12. verse 13. The King of Sodome desired of Abraham to haue y e persons which he had rescued Gen. 14. verse 21. the men which were taken prisoners And so doth the 72. Interpretors translate Naphshim 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Leu. 2. v. 1. 4. v. 2. 20. v. 5. 2. Sam. 14. Leu. 23. v. 30. 26. verse 15. Nom. 9. v. 13. 19. v. 20. Ezec. 18. v. 20. Pro. 10. v. 3. c. 11. v. 25. c. 12. v. 19. c. 14. v. 25. Nephes for a slouthfull man pro. 16. v. 26. c. 25. v.
there reserued vntill the last day Nor with Lactantius who appointeth one safe custodye for all the soules vnto the day of iudgement Neither w t Hierom ad Paulinam who saye that Abraham although that he be in a place of refreshing notwithstanding it is written that ●…e is in hell with Lazarus Nor with Tertullian and others of our dayes and the 〈◊〉 who say that one soule 〈◊〉 an other os one bodye an other whiche errour I haue confuted at large in my boke de animo and vppon the second of Genesis Neither with the Pelagians who ●…tend that the soules of infantes haue no more sin then Christs had Neither with them that affirme that the souls of the wicked be turned into deuilles when they are ●…ead Neither with Chrysostome who will haue all good mens souls to be in hell til Christ descended and deliuered them And likewise none to receiue any rewarde till the resurrection but Abraham and paule to looke to be rewarded and Abel to sitt vncrowned and Noac likewise though they haue preuented vs in labour and paines and conflictes they shal not preuent vs in crownes if they be yet vnrewarded how thē did Christ deliuer them where did he bestowe them Neither with Eut●…ymius who saith that no iust mans soule as yet hath receiued the promise The like dothe Theophilact vpon Luk. 23. and Theodoret vpon the 11. to the Hebrues Aretha vpon the 6. of the Reuelat. with Iustinus Martyr Neither with Barnard who appoynteth the soules to stand in the entry but not yet entred Neither with Iohn the 23. pope of that name who defended caused it to bee preached in Paris that no Soule should see God before the last daye Neither with thē y ● sende all the fathers before Christ to hell as Damascene who saith that Christes soule deified was made very God and descended into hell for if his humaine Soule had descended it coulde haue done nothinge for that it was and is a parte of man Neither with the papistes that saye that infantes dying without Baptisme are damned in Limbo Puerorum Neither with the papistes who make three hells besides the lowest which we onlye acknowledg the other the scripture denieth Is it reason to sende infantes that dye without Baptisme to hell to Limbus infantium are they not foreknowne of God did he not loue them are they not in the couenant of the blessed seade of Abraham are they not written in the boke of life are they not created of god are they not y ● children of God are they not predestinated of God Neither with the whole rable of the barbarouse schoolemen and Doctor Smith nowe of late who within this two or three hundreth yeares haue inuented a place called Limbus patrum the third hell or fourth after som where the fathers lay tyll Christe came to fetch them out And bicause that the old doctors ●…duced by the translation of the 72. interpretors being Iewes that translated the Bible or rather thorough their ignorance in the hebrue tongue did send Christe to the nether most hell for the olde authors knew of no more but of two places out of this worlde Heauen Hell The schoolemen as Thomas and Bonauentura with the rest do not agree of the p●…ating of these helles For some place Purgatory highest some Limbus patrum The olde aucthors that knewe no mo helles but one sende Christ thither The barborous Dunses supposing that to be an absurdity that Christ should goe to that hell where there is no redemption forged an other place and called it a parte of hell or the skirtes of hell oute of the whiche Christ fetched the fathers and termed it Limbus patrum a place as vnknowne to the scriptures and olde writers as the word is in that signification in all tongues Neither with the Papistes who affirme that many souls go to purgatory whiche some saye is on the right hande as you go to hel some on the left some in mount Aetna in Sicily some in Torrida Zona some in the Moone some in Irelande as ye maye reade in these verses When purgatory did begin they did dissent and stryue therein Some say when God did creat all Other when that Angels did fall Some say that none therin did dwel till Christ was come harried hell Some saye that then it tooke effect there mens faults dedes correct they do not knowé the ende of it that doth require say they som wit Some say the end must nedes be thā whē Christ shal com to iudg ech mā Alexander sixt of that name denieth that them doth blame that so do teache or yet defende and all such men to hell doth sende I can saith he of pardon giue ten hūdreth thousand yeare moe to them that me feare and beleue This can I doe after the last day of iudgement this I holde fast what dar Christ say if thou do bring my bull pardon with my ring Thus shalt thou scap the daie of dōe such pardons I do giue at Rome As they dissent how it began so do the schoole men euery man They discord in their gloses vaine in their argues they do remaine seking out their formalities vsing their auncient quidities Most say that it is one great parte of hel wher soules do fele the smart the highest of the fourfold hels not the lowest where deuils dwelles Neither Limbus infantium nor yet Limbus of old patrum but one as fierce in punishment as any of thē wher soules are shent Some say this place is as you goe in a darke dongeon full of woe vnto hell gates on the right hand this is the popish gainfull land Other all this stoutly deny and on the left hand they can it spy The monke Odilo doth soules roste in the mount Aetna ther thē tost for there he placeth Purgatory Pollidor telleth this lying story Some say Saint Patrique placed it in Ireland these men lack wit Some in the fire aboue the ayre wher yse cold are with great care Some vnder Zona torrida where are incendia feruida the soules are burnt rosted there where firy flames do fume fere Some send them vp into the moone wher whē they ar purged somwhat from thence into the region of saintes names doth thē translate Neither with Empedocles who tearmeth y ● soule to be ●…bloud about the harte nor with others to be a parte of the braine for they muste nedes dye with the rest of the body wherof they are a part If the life which is in y ● senses or y ● fyre as Zeno phantasieth it must be quenched If the harmony of Aristoxenus or Atomes of Democritus it must be dissolued If an harmony of the foure Elements as Dinarchus doteth it must perish with the Elementes when we shall haue a new heauen and a new earth Neither with Seuerus