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A81826 Of the right of churches and of the magistrates power over them. Wherein is further made out 1. the nullity and vanity of ecclesiasticall power (of ex-communicating, deposing, and making lawes) independent from the power of magistracy. 2. The absurdity of the distinctions of power and lawes into ecclesiasticall and civil, spirituall and temporall. 3. That these distinctions have introduced the mystery of iniquity into the world, and alwayes disunited the minds and affections of Christians and brethren. 4. That those reformers who have stood for a jurisdiction distinct from that of the magistrate, have unawares strenghthened [sic] the mystery of iniquity. / By Lewis du Moulin Professour of History in the Vniversity of Oxford. Du Moulin, Lewis, 1606-1680. 1658 (1658) Wing D2544; Thomason E2115_1; ESTC R212665 195,819 444

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themselves_o with_o a_o power_n and_o jurisdiction_n improper_o so_o call_v leave_v to_o the_o magistrate_n the_o opposite_a member_n of_o power_n proper_o so_o call_v which_o be_v a_o silent_a confession_n that_o they_o have_v none_o at_o all_o since_o they_o can_v yet_o find_v no_o name_n for_o it_o i_o have_v one_o division_n more_o of_o ecclesiastical_a power_n bring_v by_o amyraldus_n and_o some_o other_o quite_o different_a from_o the_o rest_n be_v not_o a_o dichotomie_n but_o a_o trichotomie_n not_o a_o division_n into_o two_o but_o three_o coordinate_a power_n the_o one_o belong_v to_o the_o magistrate_n the_o second_o to_o lay-elders_a and_o deputy_n of_o the_o church_n and_o the_o three_o appertain_v to_o minister_n these_o three_o ecclesiastical_a power_n he_o make_v to_o be_v conspicuous_a in_o all_o ecclesiastical_a assembly_n and_o synod_n where_o the_o magistrate_n have_v his_o ecclesiastical_a indirect_a extrinsecall_n power_n as_o they_o call_v it_o the_o minister_n have_v their_o intrin●…call_n direct_v ecclesiastical_a power_n and_o the_o lay-elders_a have_v a_o less_o intrinsical_v direct_v ecclesiastical_a power_n for_o it_o have_v not_o find_v a_o name_n yet_o for_o it_o be_v say_v they_o neither_o of_o the_o nature_n of_o ecclesiastical_a power_n belong_v to_o the_o magistrate_n nor_o of_o that_o which_o be_v proper_a to_o minister_n but_o a_o mongrel_n ecclesiastical_a power_n in_o regard_n they_o can_v perform_v by_o their_o power_n those_o act_n that_o belong_v either_o to_o magistracy_n or_o ministry_n for_o beside_o that_o they_o can_v preach_v and_o administer_v the_o sacrament_n amyraldus_n will_v not_o allow_v they_o any_o voice_n but_o consultative_a not_o deliberative_a and_o only_o in_o matter_n of_o discipline_n and_o ecclesiastical_a policy_n and_o that_o power_n they_o say_v they_o have_v common_a with_o the_o magistrate_n who_o over_o and_o above_o have_v his_o ecclesiastical_a power_n which_o neither_o the_o minister_n nor_o lay-elders_a have_v any_o thing_n to_o do_v with_o last_o the_o minister_n have_v their_o ecclesiastical_a power_n distinct_a from_o the_o ecclesiastical_a power_n of_o both_o the_o bare_a relate_v of_o these_o division_n of_o power_n and_o modification_n of_o ecclesiastical_a jurisdiction_n be_v sufficient_a to_o confute_v they_o so_o that_o there_o be_v little_a need_n of_o authority_n to_o witness_v their_o nullity_n and_o vanity_n yet_o three_o grave_n and_o learned_a divine_n namely_o martyr_n musculus_fw-la and_o gualterus_n will_v have_v the_o name_n and_o the_o thing_n to_o be_v abolish_v martyr_n loc_fw-fr come_v 13._o class_n 4._o §_o 9_o show_v the_o little_a need_n of_o multiply_a power_n whenas_o that_o of_o the_o magistrate_n be_v sufficient_a and_o that_o david_n solomon_n josias_n be_v civil_a magistrate_n do_v think_v that_o religion_n belong_v to_o their_o care_n and_o constantinus_n theodosius_n justinianus_n have_v no_o great_a thought_n then_o to_o constitute_v the_o true_a church_n of_o god_n musculus_fw-la be_v yet_o more_o pregnant_a loc_fw-la come_v de_fw-fr magistratibus_fw-la what_o hinder_v i_o pray_v but_o that_o this_o may_v be_v ecclesiastical_a which_o be_v do_v neither_o by_o the_o church_n itself_o nor_o in_o the_o name_n and_o by_o the_o power_n of_o the_o church_n but_o be_v do_v command_v and_o enjoin_v by_o the_o magistrate_n within_o the_o church_n in_o the_o name_n and_o power_n of_o god_n and_o to_o procure_v the_o good_a of_o the_o church_n and_o repress_v the_o evil_n commit_v in_o the_o church_n a_o little_a low_o he_o have_v these_o express_a and_o golden_a word_n the_o way_n and_o nature_n of_o government_n can_v bear_v that_o in_o the_o same_o people_n there_o be_v two_o authentic_a power_n two_o diverse_a legislation_n and_o domination_n except_o it_o be_v by_o subordination_n as_o there_o be_v no_o place_n for_o two_o head_n in_o one_o body_n gualterus_n homil._n in_o 1_o cor._n 5._o be_v no_o less_o express_v they_o distinguish_v betwixt_o ecclesiastical_a and_o political_a jurisdiction_n but_o this_o distinction_n be_v take_v out_o of_o the_o shop_n of_o the_o papist_n for_o it_o be_v not_o to_o be_v have_v in_o the_o scripture_n for_o it_o be_v plain_a that_o the_o same_o way_n must_v be_v observe_v in_o the_o new_a as_o in_o the_o old_a testament_n and_o a_o little_a low_o the_o same_o then_o must_v be_v observe_v in_o the_o new_a testament_n and_o no_o need_n there_o be_v that_o the_o minister_n of_o the_o word_n shall_v have_v a_o peculiar_a senate_n take_v upon_o they_o what_o belong_v to_o the_o magistrate_n they_o may_v be_v censor_n of_o manner_n such_o as_o be_v needful_a in_o a_o great_a commonwealth_n where_o ordinary_a magistrate_n can_v attend_v all_o business_n but_o these_o be_v create_v by_o the_o magistrate_n authority_n and_o aught_o to_o do_v all_o by_o his_o command_n and_o not_o lie_v a_o peculiar_a power_n of_o their_o own_o distinct_a from_o that_o of_o the_o magistrate_n such_o passage_n and_o many_o more_o i_o allege_v in_o my_o paraenesis_n p._n 16._o and_o 17._o no_o marvel_n if_o those_o that_o recede_v from_o the_o plainness_n of_o the_o scripture_n have_v knit_v themselves_o such_o net_n and_o wind_n of_o power_n in_o which_o while_n they_o think_v to_o be_v safe_a they_o lose_v themselves_o with_o the_o help_n of_o those_o distinction_n and_o division_n of_o power_n m._n gillespie_n stretch_v and_o shorten_v his_o ecclesiastical_a power_n as_o a_o leathern_a point_n sometime_o lengthen_v it_o so_o far_o as_o that_o the_o magistrate_n may_v take_v hold_n of_o it_o by_o one_o end_n and_o sometime_o give_v both_o end_n and_o the_o middle_n into_o the_o hand_n of_o the_o minister_n i_o will_v allege_v one_o or_o two_o more_o place_n out_o of_o mr._n gillespy_v book_n by_o which_o his_o art_n will_v appear_v in_o extend_v and_o contract_v his_o ecclesiastical_a power_n one_o while_o make_v the_o magistrate_n and_o minister_n to_o share_v the_o power_n between_o they_o another_z while_z giving_z to_o either_o all_o or_o nothing_o pag._n 263._o speak_v of_o the_o extent_n of_o the_o ecclesiastical_a power_n of_o the_o magistrate_n he_o be_v useful_a say_v he_o and_o helpful_a to_o the_o kingdom_n of_o christ_n the_o mediator_n magistracy_n be_v serviceable_a to_o purge_v the_o church_n of_o scandal_n to_o promote_v the_o course_n of_o the_o gospel_n and_o the_o edification_n of_o one_o another_o but_o how_o not_o perfect_o but_o protanto_n not_o every_o way_n but_o more_o svo_fw-la not_o intrinsical_o but_o extrinsecal_o not_o primary_o but_o secondary_o not_o direct_o but_o ex_fw-la consequent●_n not_o sub_fw-la formalitate_fw-la scandali_fw-la but_o sub_fw-la formalitate_fw-la criminis_fw-la or_o not_o under_o the_o notion_n of_o scandal_n but_o of_o crime_n i_o allege_v this_o not_o to_o confute_v it_o have_v elsewhere_o show_v the_o weakness_n and_o nullity_n of_o such_o division_n what_o a_o lame_a and_o impotent_a thing_n be_v eccle●asticall_a power_n that_o need_v so_o many_o wooden_a leg_n and_o crutch_n but_o i_o pray_v do_v not_o the_o magistrate_n punish_v blasphemy_n as_o a_o scandal_n and_o a_o contagious_a offence_n communicative_a to_o other_o pag._n 264._o the_o coercive_a part_n in_o compel_v the_o obstinate_a and_o unruly_a to_o submit_v to_o the_o presbyterial_a and_o synodical_a sentence_n belong_v to_o the_o magistrate_n not_o as_o if_o the_o magistrate_n have_v nothing_o to_o do_v but_o to_o be_v a_o executioner_n of_o the_o pleasure_n of_o church_n officer_n or_o as_o if_o he_o be_v by_o a_o blind_a and_o implicit_a faith_n to_o constrain_v all_o man_n to_o stand_v to_o their_o determination_n god_n forbid_v the_o magistrate_n must_v have_v his_o full_a liberty_n to_o judge_v of_o that_o which_o he_o be_v to_o compel_v man_n to_o do_v to_o judge_v of_o it_o not_o only_a judicio_fw-la apprehensivo_fw-la by_o understanding_n and_o apprehend_v aright_o what_o it_o be_v but_o judicio_fw-la discretivo_fw-la by_o the_o judgement_n of_o christian_a prudence_n and_o discretion_n examine_v by_o the_o word_n of_o god_n the_o ground_n reason_n and_o warrant_n of_o the_o thing_n that_o he_o may_v in_o faith_n and_o not_o doubt_o add_v his_o authority_n thereto_o in_o which_o judge_v he_o do_v judicare_fw-la not_o judicem_fw-la agere_fw-la that_o be_v he_o be_v judex_fw-la suarum_fw-la actionum_fw-la he_o judge_v whether_o he_o ought_v to_o add_v his_o civil_a authority_n to_o this_o or_o that_o which_o seem_v good_a to_o church-officer_n and_o do_v not_o concur_v therewith_o except_o he_o be_v satisfy_v in_o his_o conscience_n whoever_o examine_v narrow_o the_o extent_n of_o power_n which_o he_o yield_v to_o belong_v to_o the_o magistrate_n will_v soon_o discover_v that_o all_o the_o ecclesiastical_a power_n be_v to_o be_v manage_v by_o the_o magistrate_n 1._o he_o make_v all_o synodical_a or_o presbyterian_a power_n to_o be_v of_o no_o force_n without_o a_o coercive_a power_n 2._o that_o the_o magistrate_n must_v have_v his_o full_a liberty_n to_o judge_v of_o
nemine_fw-la contradicente_fw-la thus_o the_o late_a confession_n of_o faith_n and_o directory_n go_v for_o currant_n to_o be_v the_o opinion_n of_o the_o assembly_n because_o they_o be_v the_o act_n of_o the_o major_a part_n of_o they_o albeit_o many_o godly_a and_o learned_a man_n among_o they_o have_v no_o hand_n in_o frame_v the_o 30._o &_o 31._o chapter_n of_o the_o confession_n in_o affair_n concern_v temporal_a life_n it_o may_v be_v bear_v with_o when_o what_o have_v be_v vote_v by_o the_o major_a part_n of_o the_o counsel_n or_o senate_n go_v for_o the_o act_n of_o all_o and_o this_o be_v one_o of_o the_o state-precept_n that_o philip_n the_o ii_o give_v to_o margerite_v governess_n of_o the_o low-countrves_a by_o the_o report_n of_o strada_n 5._o in_o all_o great_a difference_n betwixt_o nation_n &_o nation_n army_n and_o army_n party_n and_o party_n the_o judge_n that_o be_v appoint_v to_o reconcile_v they_o must_v propound_v condition_n by_o which_o party_n in_o extreme_n shall_v come_v to_o some_o accommodation_n and_o moderation_n each_o side_n if_o need_v be_v comply_v and_o part_v with_o some_o of_o his_o right_n to_o prevent_v a_o continuance_n of_o strife_n but_o such_o a_o composition_n can_v be_v expect_v in_o or_o by_o a_o synod_n for_o make_v up_o difference_n in_o religion_n since_o each_o side_n apprehend_v his_o opinion_n to_o be_v the_o truth_n and_o will_v think_v it_o a_o great_a sin_n to_o balk_v any_o part_n of_o it_o or_o admit_v a_o accommodation_n chapter_n xvii_o that_o the_o jewish_a church-officer_n have_v not_o a_o jurisdiction_n distinct_a from_o that_o of_o the_o magistrate_n mr._n gillespy_v distinction_n that_o they_o be_v not_o material_o but_o formal_o distinct_a examine_v the_o argument_n of_o amyraldus_n that_o though_o they_o have_v a_o distinct_a jurisdiction_n yet_o the_o example_n of_o the_o church_n of_o the_o jew_n be_v no_o pattern_n to_o the_o christian_a church_n discuss_v and_o prove_v to_o be_v of_o no_o validity_n this_o subject_n touch_v the_o identity_n or_o diversity_n of_o jurisdiction_n ecclesiastical_a and_o civil_a among_o the_o jew_n well_o understand_v will_v decide_v the_o whole_a controversy_n which_o mr._n gillespie_n well_o apprehend_v and_o therefore_o perceive_v the_o strength_n of_o this_o plea_n that_o good_a reason_n it_o be_v that_o the_o ecclesiastical_a power_n shall_v be_v distinct_a or_o not_o distinct_a in_o the_o church_n of_o the_o jew_n as_o well_o as_o in_o that_o of_o the_o christian_n since_o the_o power_n of_o the_o key_n and_o of_o bind_v and_o lose_v of_o censure_v excommunicate_a and_o make_v law_n authoritative_o be_v the_o same_o in_o both_o church_n and_o therefore_o that_o it_o can_v be_v suppose_v without_o great_a inconvenience_n that_o the_o jurisdiction_n be_v indistinct_a among_o the_o jew_n but_o distinct_a among_o the_o christian_n this_o i_o say_v be_v consider_v by_o he_o make_v he_o withal_o endeavour_v to_o lay_v hold_n on_o that_o opinion_n that_o make_v jurisdiction_n distinct_a in_o the_o commonwealth_n of_o israel_n for_o this_o supposition_n he_o take_v to_o be_v the_o groundwork_n of_o the_o ecclesiastical_a jurisdiction_n but_o i_o will_v not_o enter_v far_o into_o this_o matter_n have_v in_o the_o examen_fw-la of_o the_o 30._o chapter_n of_o the_o confession_n of_o the_o river_n assembly_n take_v off_o the_o main_a objection_n from_o amariah_n and_o zebadiah_n for_o i_o can_v think_v but_o mr._n gillespie_n have_v embrace_v this_o opinion_n for_o conveniency_n and_o more_o because_o it_o be_v subservient_fw-fr to_o the_o fabric_n of_o his_o book_n then_o that_o it_o have_v any_o great_a probability_n 1._o because_o most_o of_o the_o learned_a papist_n and_o other_o even_o his_o fellow-presbyters_a be_v of_o another_o judgement_n who_o if_o they_o have_v have_v never_o so_o little_a show_n or_o likeliness_n for_o a_o double_a jurisdiction_n among_o the_o jew_n special_o the_o papist_n and_o with_o they_o amyraldus_n and_o other_o no_o doubt_v they_o will_v have_v make_v as_o much_o of_o this_o advantage_n to_o further_a their_o cause_n as_o mr._n gillespie_n think_v to_o prevail_v with_o it_o for_o himself_o 2._o because_o mr._n gillespie_n when_o he_o have_v do_v what_o he_o can_v to_o assert_v a_o double_a jurisdiction_n in_o the_o church_n of_o the_o jew_n reap_v very_o little_a benefit_n by_o it_o for_o he_o pull_v down_o by_o his_o large_a concession_n with_o one_o hand_n what_o he_o have_v strive_v to_o set_v up_o with_o the_o other_o for_o the_o first_o it_o be_v a_o endless_a labour_n to_o produce_v the_o name_n of_o the_o author_n that_o be_v for_o erastus_n opinion_n in_o this_o particular_a and_o for_o one_o constantinus_n l'empereur_fw-fr which_v he_o pretend_v to_o be_v on_o his_o side_n twenty_o may_v be_v bring_v of_o a_o contrary_a opinion_n not_o long_o since_o discourse_v with_o manasseh_n ben_n israel_n at_o the_o house_n of_o my_o noble_a friend_n mr._n sadler_n about_o this_o same_o subject_n he_o tell_v i_o he_o can_v not_o conceive_v how_o this_o opinion_n that_o there_o be_v a_o double_a jurisdiction_n among_o the_o jew_n be_v take_v up_o by_o the_o christian_n and_o that_o he_o hold_v it_o altogether_o absurd_a against_o scripture_n and_o reason_n nothing_o can_v be_v add_v to_o what_o grotius_n selden_n and_o cunaeus_n have_v write_v on_o this_o subject_n amyraldus_n in_o his_o thesis_n de_fw-fr spiritu_fw-la servitutis_fw-la thes_n 28._o say_v that_o religion_n and_o policy_n be_v so_o straight_o conjoin_v among_o the_o jew_n that_o one_o be_v overthrow_v the_o other_o can_v not_o stand_v but_o must_v needs_o fall_v too_o and_o in_o his_o book_n of_o the_o government_n of_o the_o church_n p._n 46._o he_o say_v the_o same_o man_n do_v judge_v israel_n as_o a_o sovereign_a magistrate_n and_o be_v also_o over_o matter_n of_o religion_n lud._n capellus_n part_n 3._o de_fw-la ministerii_fw-la verbi_fw-la necessitate_v thes_n 18_o 19_o etc._n etc._n do_v not_o only_o conspire_v with_o amyraldus_n but_o outgo_v he_o in_o assert_v that_o the_o 70._o judge_n or_o elder_n though_o lay-man_n and_o not_o of_o the_o tribe_n of_o levi_n be_v not_o only_o to_o compose_v controversy_n and_o suit_n in_o law_n but_o also_o to_o instruct_v the_o people_n about_o the_o worship_n of_o god_n and_o to_o teach_v they_o the_o fear_n of_o the_o lord_n so_o far_o that_o from_o the_o time_n of_o ezra_n to_o jesus_n christ_n any_o in_o the_o synagogue_n which_o be_v know_v to_o be_v gift_v may_v teach_v read_v and_o expound_v the_o scripture_n which_o he_o prove_v by_o the_o example_n of_o jesus_n christ_n luc._n 4._o 17._o who_o though_o unknown_a be_v admit_v to_o expound_v the_o scripture_n and_o of_o st._n paul_n act._n 13._o 15._o my_o river_n father_n be_v of_o the_o same_o mind_n namely_o in_o the_o 19_o chapter_n de_fw-la monarchia_fw-la temporali_fw-la where_o he_o say_v that_o neither_o the_o levite_n nor_o the_o chief_a priest_n make_v 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