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ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A13774	The true copy of tvvo letters, with their seuerall answeres, contayning the late apostasie of the Earle of Lauall, after his returne from Italy VVherein the principall poynts in controuersie with the papists, are learnedly and fully confuted. By D. Tilenus. Faythfully translated by D.D.S.	Tilenus, Daniel, 1563-1633.; Coligny, Guy Paul de, 1555-1586, attributed name.; D. D. S.; Laval, Antoine de, 1550-1631, attributed name.	1605 (1605)	STC 24072; ESTC S118417	23,042	42

of a certaine Lady and hauing beside entertayned the Nunnes of the Couent The Romance Beare ought to be some other thing beside then a simple shorne Munke Your second demaund is touching the 4. first general Councils to wit If we hold for certaine that which was there treated and resolued I answer that those points coÌ„cerne either the doctrine or policy of the Church those then be collected in the Symboles composed in the said Councils and wee hold them for true so farre as they are agreeing to the holy Scriptures In this here we will vse the liberty which Bellarmine takes after the maner of Pope Gelasus saying That in the Councill of Calcedon there is something good something euil and that wee may receiue the one refuse the other and in another place he dispenseth with himselfe to reproue in the same maner the Council of Constantinople for hauing attempted somewhat that did not please the Church of Rome Behold then how he handles these two of the first 4. generall Councils for the rest iudge if ye please which is most reasonable to submit themselues to the CouÌ„cils because the Pope doth approue them who maintaines himselfe to be aboue theÌ„ or because the Councils haue submitted themselues to the word of GOD the one which is taught in the Church of Rome the other in our Church The third question is Concerning the sending of the Ministers if it be necessarie for them and of whom Caluin had it I answer that it is necessary and that Caluin had it of the Church of Geneua of Farel his predecessor who had also his of the people of Geneua who had right and authority to institute depose Ministers for so declareth S. Ciprian saying that the people obeying to the commaundements of God should separate themselues from a wicked guide and not to meddle with the sacrifices of any sacrilegious Priest coÌ„sidering that the said people haue chiefe authority to make choyce of worthy persons to reiect the vnworthy This was so practised by the people of Geneua and in diuers other parts of Europe where in these latter times they did forsake those sacrilegious Priests and sacrifices of the Pope for to establish faithful Ministers proclaimers of the gospel And to be short the reformed Churches had their calling sending partly from God and partly froÌ„ their people and partly from the Church of Rome from God as the chiefe cause from the people as by lawful instrument froÌ„ the Church of Rome as by a corrupt instrument God gaue the essence and the forme interiour to this sending the reformed Church gaue the testimonies approbations and the exteriour forme the Church of Rome hath added thereto abuses and corruptions which our succeeding Ministers haue renounced The fourth question is touching the interpretation and vnderstanding of the Scriptures to wit If euery one be capable of the vnderstanding of it interpreting it by it selfe I answere that if by this capacity ye meane a natural faculty of man by the vnderstanding a knowledge to saluation so far off is it that euery one is capable to the vnderstaÌ„ding therof or to purchase this intelligence by his study trauels but rather herein all be naturally blind and foolish and it is necessarily requisit that which our Sauiour Christ did to his Apostles opening their vnderstandings to conceaue the Scriptures should be done to all them which desire to vnderstand them wholsomely for as the bodily light cannot be receiued but by eyes corporall that be open euen so the spiritual light of the Scriptures cannot be seene but by the spiritual eyes of faith which God opens to his own elect in giuing them so much thereof as is necessary for them to saluation in doing whereof he works oftentimes by degrees as he did with the blind man spoken of in the Gospel whom he lightned by little Whosoeuer be the meanest of the world vnderstand these passages which defend the bowing downe before Images who commaund to giue the cuppe of the Lord to all which beare also that this is the docttine of deuils for to forbid mariage and the vse of certain meats c. The Gospel is not hid but to those who perish and whom the God of this world hath blinded This sayes S. Paul The fift demaund is touching the confuting of heresies to wit If that we hold them not for well and iustly confuted I answere that these heresies refuted by the word of God or as S. Athanasius saith stoned by arguments taken out of the holy Scripture are well iustly conuinced for this is one of the vses wherefore it was giuen by heauenly inspiration neither hold we that for refuted or ouercome which is onely done by the witnesses of man and by the authority of the Pope who doth not condemne heresies but in seeming to bee an enemy to them to the end the better he may establish his owne as did Zophyrus that by such slights wonne Babylon The most ordinary and common argument of the Pope for to refute heresies is by the fagot the hand of the hangman according to the Logick of the Inquisition of Spayne and the practise of the Iesuites their Apostles in the New found world against the poore Pagans notwithstanding that the scholasticke diuines maintaine that the Infideis ought not in any case to beforced to receiue the faith yea not after ye haue ouercome them in warre and made them slaues But in this there appeares to vs yet one of the conformities of the pretended Vicar of Iesus Christ with his master the coÌ„mission which the one giues to his Apostles beares this Go ye teach all nations c. That which the other giues to his is Go kill massacre poyson all people who will not obey me Now followes the sixt question Of the authority of the Fathers The opinion of the Church of Rome is diuers vpon this poynt There be that hold that all the writings of the Fathers be true and authenticke and it behoueth to maintayne all their opinions to be true euen to the last iote This is it which the glosse sayes vp on the decree authenticke in the Church of Rome without teaching of vs how we may obserue this ordinance when the opinions of the Fathers bee contrary one to another The more modest best aduised saies they should be esteemed for Historians and witnesses of matters of their time We say that in regard of the questions of right that bee in controuersy the Fathers haue bene and should be esteemed for disciples of the trueth and not for Masters knowing in a part and prophesying in a part and that they haue not comprehended the whole trueth but only according to the measure of the grace of Iesus Christ we esteem them for Instruments of God where they haue spoken the truth but where they haue a little erred in going out of the right way we

cease not neuerthelesse to hold them for the children of God beleeuing that the heauenly Father hath couered their infirmities neither doe wee despise the faire haruest of learning that aboundeth in their writings for certain cares of cockle which are mingled with them but we do hate those who gather nothing but the Cockle and their errors who defile and corrupt as much as they may by their Index expurgatorius the good grayne which is there who preferre their Briers to their Roses and in stead of concealing their owne shame kissed it and caused it to be reuerenced by the people As for their testimonies in questioÌ„s concerning the matter of fact we accept them in things of their times that be of their knowledge especially when it is well grounded and assured for it shal be proued that they haue mistaken theÌ„selues both in the one and in the other and there is none except the Prophets and the Apostles to whom by a speciall prerogatiue pertaineth the condition of witnesse without reproof and free of exception Otherwise the writings of the Fathers at least those who write the History of their times should be equal to the Canonicall Scriptures I report me herein to the testimony of that great Cardinall Baronius hauing spoken in one place that the Catholike Church falles not at all times nor in al things yea the holyest Fathers theÌ„selues say in another place that the Acts of the Apostles written by S. Luke merit more faith then any authority of the Ancients and in another place that which the most true sincerest writers haue reported of the Apostles hath not remained in her owne integrity without corruption As touching The Inuocation of Saints your seuenth question I answere It should bee reiected in regard of both the two reasons alledged by your selfe to wit as well because it is sacriledge against God as also vnprofitable for vs for to see heare vnderstand receiue to heare the requests of all apart al at one time and in all times this is a propriety belonging onely to God and his Sonne Iesus Christ from whom they steale his honor make the Saints to vsurpe his office when one S. Iames another S. Clowd is called vpon in one same time in a thousand places from the East to the West of a million of persons for thousand and thousands of diuers things also when they beleeue that the Saints can vnderstand are sufficient to satisfie content euery one And by this you may perceiue the abuses of the Iesuites who perswade you seeing it is permitted to aske the help of the liuing that it cannot bee prohibited to call vpon the dead also of whome wee haue as little certainty that they can heare vs as of commaundement that we should reclayme them Your last question is Of the circumscription of the body To which I answere that euery true body is circumscribed and to be a body and not to be circumscribed that is to say limitted and bounded imports contradiction for if the dimensions be essentials to a body and if it be necessary that the dimensions be terminable which was neuer yet denyed it followes then of necessity that it is bounded and circumscribed and if this necessity accompanieth all bodies in generall how much more a humane body or body of man which is not Mathematicall neither composed only of matter and of forme but which is organick composed of vnlike parts of diuers kinds of which then followes that those that take from him the circumscriptioÌ„ to the end to lodge him in one time instaÌ„t in diners places and insted to amplify the power of God destroyes therby both his verity wisdome his might and his Godhead altogether His verity in so much as hee should haue in him yea no if that he might say of one selfe same body that he is circumscribed not circumscribed one and none organick and not organick His wisedome because there would be disorder and confusion in his works his power because it should haue imperfection to wit a humane body not hauing that which made her to be so To conclude his Godhead because the creature finite should be equal to the Creator who is only infinite by the which argument the Ancients foresaw the Deity of the holy Ghost but if they will say that the place is not of the essence of the body consequently that the one may be without the other it must be demaunded if the time is not as well out of the essence of the body as a body may bee then without time Conclude so should not this be without time without sence if they reply again that the heauen although a true body yet it is not contayned by any place that inuirons it without The answere is that for all that it is not exeÌ„pt of circumscription being circuÌ„scribed by the limits of her proper greatnes forme inseparable froÌ„ it and euen so the bodies of the faithfull that while they shal be transported aboue the heauens which we see shal not be without their circuÌ„scriptions although it be that an other body compasse them bout as the ayre doth vs below or that it be that nothing compasse vs. I beleeue ye haue oftentimes heard this sentence of S. Austen Take away the roome from a body and there shal be then no part at all in them We say with the said Father that this circumscription agreeth with the body of our Lord who is aboue clothed with heauenly glory yet not spoyled of his humane nature neither can we read without horzor that which the Pope commaunds to be beleeued in this poynt to wit That he is handled by the hands of the Priests torne and broken by the teeth of the faithful sensually and carnally Termes and speeches according to the Romane Church must be taken precizely for as Bellarmine teacheth vs there is no forme in speaking in the matter of faith more exact theÌ„ that which they vse who abiure an heresy wherof followes that this maner of speaking by Pope Nicholas to Berengare for the abiuring of his pretended Heresy admits not the glosse adioyned to the margent that is to say whosoeuer should take these tearmes by the meaning of the letter should fall in heresie worse then that of Barengarius But what is this sayes not your pretended teachers with a high cleare voyce That the glorious bodie of our Lord may be eateÌ„ by a mouse deuoured by a dog Then behold I pray you how they circumscribe it inuironing bounding it in the intrailes of a filthie beast which is the place and the lodging which these honest Harbengers assigne vnto him Behold there is the faire Hellen of their doctrine with whom they would make you inamored shall you then receiue for principles of fayth the barking of such Cerbres You haue here my answers vnto your 8. demaunds which you shall find more cleare then subtil more gentle then ingenious

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