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A02630 An ansvvere to Maister Iuelles chalenge, by Doctor Harding Harding, Thomas, 1516-1572. 1564 (1564) STC 12758; ESTC S103740 230,710 411

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in the stalle and hauing takē a long iourney being bothe wicked and aliantes with very great feare and trembling adored him Wherefore let vs folowe at least those aliants vs I saye that are citizens of heauen For they whereas they sawe but that stalle and cabben onely and none of all the thinges thou seest nowe came notwithstāding with the greatest reuerēce and feare that was possible But thou seest it not in a stalle of beastes but on the aulter not a woman to holde it in her armes but a priest present and the holy ghoste plentyfully spredde vpon the sacrifice This father in his Masse maketh a prayer in presence of the blessed Sacrament almost with the same wordes that S. Basile did Attēde domine Iesu Christe Deus noster etc. Looke vpon vs o lord Iesus Christ our God from thy holy habitacle and from the throne of the glory of thy kingdom and come to sanctifie vs who sittest on high with the father and art here inuisibly with vs and make vs worthy by thy mighty hāde that we may be partakers of thy vnspotted body and pretiouse bloude and through vs all the people In the same Chrysostomes liturgie or Masse a most euident testimonie of adoration of the Sacramēt is thus vttered Sacerdos adorat et diaconus in eo in quo est loco ter secretò dicētes Deus propitius esto etc. The priest adoreth and the deacon likewise in the place he standeth in saying three tymes secretly God be mercifull to me a synner So the people and likewise all make their adoration deuoutely and reuerently In the same father is an other prayer which the greke priestes doo vse to this daye at their adoration of Christes body in the Sacrament and it is expressed in these wordes Domine non sum dignus etc. Lord I am not worthy that thou enter vnder the filthy roofe of my soule But as thou tookest in good parte to lye in the denne and stall of brute beastes and in the house of Simon the leprouse receiuedst also a harlot and a synner like me comming vnto thee vouchesafe also to enter into the stalle of my soule voyde of reason and into my fylthy body being dead and leprouse And as thou dydst not abhorre the fowle mowth of a harlot kissing thyne vndefyled feete So my lord God abhorre not me though a synner but vouchesafe of thy goodnesse and benignitie that I maye be made partaker of thy most holy body and bloude S. Ambrose after long serche and discussion De spirit● sancto li. 3. cap. 12. Psal 96. how that saying of the prophete might be vnderstanded Adore and worship ye his footestoole because it is holy At length concludeth so as by the footestoole he vnderstandeth the earth because it is written Esa 66. Heauen is my seate and the earth is my footestoole And because the earth is not to be adored for that it is a creature by this earth he vnderstādeth that earth which our lord Iesus tooke in the assumption of his fleshe of the virgine Marye and hereupon he vttereth those plaine wordes for testimonie of the adoration Iraque per scabellum terra intelligitur per terrā autem caro Christi quam hodie quoque in mysterijs adoramus quam Apostoli in domino Iesu adorarunt And thus by the footestoole earth may be vnderstanded and by earth the fleshe of Christ which euen now adayes also we adore in the mysteries and the Apostles adored in our lord Iesus S. Augustines learned handling of this place of the psalme adore ye his footestoole because it is holy maketh so euidently for this purpose that of all other auctorities which in great number might be brought for prouse of the same it ought least to be omitted The place being long I will recite it in English onely His wordes be these Adore ye his footestoole In Psal 98 because it is holy See ye brethren what that is he byddeth vs to adore ●sa 66. In an other place the scripture sayeth heauē is my seate and the earth is my footestoole What doth he then bydde vs adore and worship the earth because he sayde in an other place that it is the footestoole of God And how shall we adore the earth whereas the scripture sayeth plainely Deut. 6.10 Thou shalt adore thy lord thy God and here he sayeth adore ye his footestoole But he expoūdeth to me what his footestoole is Matth. 4. and sayeth And the earth is my footestoole I am made doubtefull afrayed I am to adore the earth least he damne me that made heauen and earth Againe I am afrayed not to adore the footestoole of my lord because the Psalme sayeth to me Adore ye his footestoole I seeke what thing is his footestoole and the scripture telleth me The earth is my footestoole Being thus wauering I tourne me to Christ because him I seeke here and I fynde how without impietie the earth may be adored For he tooke of earth earth because fleshe is of earth and of the fleshe of Marye he tooke fleshe And because he walked here in fleshe and that very fleshe he gaue vs to eate to Saluation and no man eateth that fleshe excepte first he adore it it is fownde out how such a footestoole of our lord may be adored and how we not onely synne not by adoring but synne by not adoring Doth not the fleshe quicken and geue lyfe Our lord him selfe sayde when he spake of the commendation it selfe of that earth Ioan. 6. it is the spirite that quikneth but the fleshe profiteth nothing Therfore when thou bowest thy selfe and fallest downe to euery such earth beholde it not as earth but that holy one whose footestoole it is that thou doest adore for because of him thow doest adore And therefore here he added Adore ye his footestoole because it is holy Who is holy he for whose loue thou adorest his footestoole And when thou adorest him remaine not by cogitation in fleshe that thou be not quikned of the spirite For the spirite sayeth he quikneth and the fleshe profiteth nothing And then when our lord commended this vnto vs he had spoken of his fleshe and had sayde Excepte a man eate my fleshe he shall not haue in him lyfe euerlastyng Againe S. Augustine sheweth the maner and custome of his tyme touching the adoration of Christ in the Sacrament writing thus ad Honoratum Epist 120. cap. 21. vpon the verse of the xxj psalme Edent pauperes saturabuntur that is the poore shall eate and be filled and vpon that other Manducauerunt adorauerunt omnes diuites terrae all the riche of the earth haue eaten and adored It is not without cause sayeth he that the riche and the poore be so distincted that of the poore it was sayde before the poore shall eate and be fylled and here of the riche they haue eaten and adored all that be the riche of the earth For they haue bē brought to
in the throne and to the lambe for euer And the fouer and tvventie elders fell dovvne on their faces and adored him that lyueth vntill vvorldes of vvorldes But it shall be more tediouse then nedefull to recite places out of the scriptures for proufe of th'adoratiō of Christ there may of thē be fownde so great plentie Contrarietie in the first diuisers of the nevve gospell Yet because Luther was either so blinde or rather so deuilishe as to denye th'adoration where notwithstāding he cōfessed the presence of Christes true and natural body in the Sacrament I will here recite what the Sacramentaries of Zurich haue written against him therefore What saye they is the bread the true and natural body of Christ and is Christ in the supper as the Pope and Luther doo teache present Wherefore then ought not the lord there to be adored where ye saye him to be present Why shall we be forbydden to adore that which is not onely sacramentally but also corporally the body of Christ Thomas toucheth the true body of Christ raysed vp from the dead and falling downe on his knees adoreth saying My God and my lord The disciples adore the lord as well before as after his Ascension Matth. 28. Act. 1. And the lord in S. Iohn sayeth to the blinde man Ioan. 9. beleuest thou in the sonne of God and he answered him saying Lord who is he that I may beleue in him And Iesus sayed to him Thou hast bothe sene him and who speaketh with thee he it is Then he sayeth lord I beleue and he adored him Now if we taught our lordes bread to be the natural body of Christ verely we would adore it also faithfully with the papistes This much the Zuinglians against Luther Whereby they prooue sufficiently th'adoration of Christes body in the Sacrament and so consequently of Christ him selfe God and man because of the inseparable coniunction of his diuine and humaine nature in vnitie of persone so as where his body is there is it ioyned and vnited also vnto his godhed and so there Christ is present perfitely wholly and substantially very god and man For the cleare vnderstanding whereof the better to be atteined the scholastical Diuines haue profitably deuised the terme concomitantia plainely and truly teaching that in this Sacrament after consecration vnder the forme of breade is present the body of Christ and vnder the forme of wine his bloud ex vi sacramenti and with the body vnder forme of bread also the bloud the soule and godhed of Christ and likewise with the bloud vnder the forme of wyne the body soule and godhed ex concomitantia as they terme it in shorter and playner wise vttering the same doctrine of faith which the holy fathers dyd in the Ephesme councell against Nestorius Whereby they meane that where the body of Christ is present by necessary sequell because of the indiuisible copulation of bothe natures in the vnitie of person for as much as the Word made fleshe neuer lefte the humaine nature there is also his bloud his soule his godhed and so whole and perfite Christ God and man And in this respecte the terme is not to be misliked of any godly learned man though some newe Maisters scoffe at it who fill the measure of their predecessours that likewise haue ben offended with termes for the apter declaration of certaine necessary articles of our faith by holy and learned fathers in generall councelles holesomly deuised Of which sorte ben these homousion humanatio incarnatio transubstantiatio etc. Now here is to be noted how the Zuinglians whom M. Iuell foloweth in th'article of adoration confute the Lutherans as on the other syde the Lutherans in th'article of the presence confute the Zuinglians As though it were by gods speciall prouidence for the better staye of his churche so wrought that bothe the truth shuld be confessed by the enemies of truth and also for vttering of vntruth the one shuld be condemned of the other that by the warre of heretikes the peace of the churche might be established and by their discorde the catholike people might the faster grewe together in concorde Now hauing sufficiētly proued by the scriptures and that with the Zuingliās also adoration and godly honour to be due vnto Christes body where so euer it please his diuine maiestie to exhibit the same present let vs see whether we can finde the same doctrine affirmed by the holy and auncient fathers What the Apostles taught in their tyme concerning this Article we may iudge by that we reade in Dionysius that was S. Paules scholer and for that is to beleued He adoreth and worshippeth this holy mysterie with these very wordes Ecclesias hierarch cap. 3. Sed ò diuinum penitus sanctumque mysterium etc. But ô diuine and holy mysterie which vouchesafest to open the cooueringes of signes layd ouer the vtter thy light to vs openly and plainely and fill our spirituall eyes with the singular and euident brightnes of thy light Origen teacheth vs how to adore and worship Christ in the Sacrament before we receiue it after this forme of wordes Hom 5. in diuersos Euangelij locos Quādo sanctum cibum etc. when thou receiuest the holy meate and that vncorrupt banket when thou enioyest the bread and cuppe of lyfe thou eatest and drinkest the body and bloud of our lord then our lord entreth in vnder thy roofe And therefor thou also humbling thy selfe folowe this Cēturion or captaine and saye Lord I am not vvorthy that thou enter vnder my roofe For where he entreth in vnworthely there he entreth in to the condemnation of the receiuer What can be thought of S. Cyprian but that he adored the inuisible thing of this Sacrament which is the body and bloud of Christ seing that he confesseth the godhed to be in the same nolesse then it was in the person of Christ which he vttereth by these wordes In Ser. d● coena do Panis iste quem dominus discipulis porrigebat etc. This bread which our lord gaue to his disciples chaunged not in shape but in nature by the almighty power of god is made fleshe And as in the person of Christ the manhode was sene and the godhed was hydden euen so the diuine essence hath vnspeakeably infused it selfe into the visible sacramēt Chrysostom hath a notable place for the adoration of Christes body in the Sacrament in his commentaries vpon S. Paul In 10. cap. prioris ad Corinth where he affirmeth also the real presence and the sacrifice Let vs not let vs not sayeth he be willing impudently to kill our selues And when thou seest that body set forth saye with thy selfe for cause of this body I am no lenger earth and ashes no lenger captiue but free This body fastened on the Crosse and beaten was not ouercome with death After this he exhorteth all to adore and worship our lordes body in the Sacrament This body sayeth he the wise men worshipped
after the sense of the Gospellers nevve and vsed by Sathan 9. b. In vvhat sense and consideration the Masse called Priuate of some Doctours 9. b. VVhat the Lutherans call Priuate Masse 9. b. Priuate Masse in vvorde but in dede the sacrifice of the churche impugned by M. Iuell 10. a. Proufes for the Masse briefly touched 10. a. The chiefe cause vvhy the Gospellers storme against priuate Masse 11. b. Three essentials of the Masse 12. b. Number of communicantes place tyme vvith other rites bee not of Christes Institution 12. b. VVhy the Sacrament is called a communion 14. a. There is a communion betvven the faithfull though they be not together 14. b. Necessitie of many communicantes together contrary to the libertie of the gospell 15. a. For mengling vvater vvith the vvyne in the Sacrament a place alleaged out of Clement 15. b. Many maye cōmunicate together not being in one place together 16. a. etc. Proufes for priuate communion and consequently for priuate Masse 17. b. etc. Reseruation of the Sacrament 19. b. Vncleane doinges bevvrayed at Martyrs toumbes 20. b. Light of the vvest churches taken from Rome 21. b. The fathers oftentymes complaine of the peoples forebearing the cōmunion but no vvhere of the priestes ceasing from offering the Sacrifice 23. a. The peoples forebearing the cōmunion is no cause vvhy the priest shuld not saye Masse 24. a. Masse done vvithout a number of communicantes in the same place 24. b. 25. 26. etc. A true declaration of Chysostomes place nullus qui cōmunicetur 30. b. 2. Christes vvordes drynke ye all of this bynde not the laitie to the vse of the cuppe 33. a. Luther and his ofspring doth not necessitate communiō vnder both kyndes 34. a. etc. Lutheres cōferēce vvith the Deuill agaīst the Masse 34. b Causes mouing the church to communicate vnder one kinde 36. b. The exacte streightnes of certaine Gods ordinances may vvhithout offence in cases be omitted 37. a. b. etc. Proufes for Cōmunion vnder one kinde 40. b. 41. etc. Our lordes cuppe onely in certaine cases ministred 46. a. b The administration of the bread styped or dipte in the cuppe vnlavvfull 46. b. The Canon of Gelasius guilefully by M. Iuell alleaged truly examined 47. b. 48. etc. 3. Churche Seruice in due order disposed in the Greke churches before the latine churches 51. a. Vsage of church Seruice in any vulgare barbarouse tonge vvith in 600. yeres after Christ can not be proued 52. a All people of the Greke church vnderstoode not the greke Seruice 53. b. 54. etc. M. Iuelles allegations soluted 57. a. etc. Iustinianes ordinance truly declared 58. b. M. Iuell noted of insinseritie and halting 58. b. 59. a. The nūber of lāguages by accōpte of the antiquitie 59. a. b All people of the Latine churche vnderstoode not the Latine Seruice 60. a. 61. 62. etc. The antiquitie of the Latine Seruice in the church of England 63. a. Cednom the diuine poete of England 65. b. The first entree of the English Seruice 66. a. The place of S. Paule to the Corinthians maketh not for the Seruice in the Englishe tonge 66. b. 67. etc. The vvorde Spirite in s Paul diuersely takē of diuerse 68. a The benefite of prayer vttered in a tonge not vnderstanded 71. a. Such nations as vse church Seruice in their ovvne tonge continevve in schismes 73. b. 4. Of syx grovvndes that the Popes Supreme auctoritie standeth vpon the first and chiefe Gods ordināce according to the scripture expounded 75. b. etc. The 2. Councelles 77. b. The 3. Edictes of Emperoures 79. a. The 4. Doctours 79. b. etc. The 5. Reason 81. a. The 6. practise of the church syxfolde 83. a. etc. 1. Appellations to the Pope 84. a. Euill lyse of the b. of Rome ought not to seuer vs from the faith of the churche of Rome 85. b. The 2. practise corrections from the Pope 87. a. 3. Confirmations by the Pope 78. b. 4. The Popes approuing of Councelles 88. a. 5. Absolutions from the Pope 89. a 6. Reconciliations to the Pope 89. b The Pope aboue a thousand yeres sithens called Vniuersall bishop and head of the vniuersall churche 90. b. Peter and consequētly the Pope Peters successour called head of the church both in termes equiualent and also expressely 91. b. etc. Peter and his successour called head of the churche expressely 93. a. etc. The Popes Primacie acknovvleged and cōfessed by Martin Luther 94. b. 5. VVhat occasioned the fathers to vse these termes really substantially corporally etc. 97. b. Berengatius the first Sacramentarie 98. a. The fleshe and bloud of Christ of double cōsideratiō 98. b. Bucer cōfesseth the body of Christ to be in the Sacramēt in dede and substantially 100. b. 6. Christes being in heauen and in the Sacrament at one tyme implyeth no contradiction 105. a. Christes body in many places at once 105. b. 106. etc. Truth confessed by the enemie of truth 107. b. God vvorking aboue nature distroyeth not nature 108. b Being in a mysterie vvhat it is 109. a. 7. Eleuation of the Sacrament proued 109. b. 110. etc. 8. VVhat Christē people adore in the Sacramēt 112. b. 113. etc. Contrarietie in the first deuysers of the Nevve Gospell 115. a. Adoration proued by the scripture and that according to the Zuinglians against luther 115. a. etc. The terme concomitantia by the Diuines profitably deuysed 115. b. Adoration of Christ in the Sacrament auouched by the fathers 116. b. etc. 9. Sundry maners of keping the blessed Sacrament 121. b. Hanging vp of the Sacrament in a pyxe ouer the aulter is auncient 122. b. 10. The remayning of the onely Accidentes vvithout substāce in the Sacramēt depēdeth of the Article of transubstantiation 124. a. Transubstantiation and the truth of our lordes body and bloud auouched 124. 125. etc. Transubstantiation taught by the olde fathers and by the Doctours of the Greke church of late age 126. 127. Accidentes beleued of some learned fathers to remaine vvithout substance at the begynning 127. b. 11. VVhat the diuiding of the Sacrament in three partes signifieth 128. a. The diuiding of the Sacrament in three partes probably thought to be a Tradition of the Apostles 128. b. 129. a. 12. Hovv the fathers are to be vnderstanded calling the Sacrament a figure signe token etc. 130. a. etc. The vvordes figure signe token remembrance etc. exclude not the truth of being 134. a. 135. etc. 13. Lydford lavve vsed by the Gospellers 139. a. Pluralitie of Masses in one churche in one daye 139. a. etc. This vvord Sacrifice taken for the Masse 143. b. 14. Antiquitie of Images 145. a. The signe of the Crosse commended to men by Gods prouidence 145. b. Literae Hieroglyphicae 146. b. Images from the Apostles tyme. 147. b. Three causes vvhy Images haue ben vsed in the churche 150. a. Pictura loquens poëma tacens 150. b. Hovv Images maye be vvorshipped vvithout offēce 152. a 15. Three sundry opiniōs concerning the scriptures to be had in a vulgare