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A48858 A defence of the report, concerning the present state of the differences in doctrinals, between some dissenting ministers in London, in reply to a book, enbtitled, A faithful rebuke of that report Lobb, Stephen, d. 1699. 1698 (1698) Wing L2722; ESTC R215527 59,724 97

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were so hasty in what they did that some Passages of a dangerous Aspect escaped their Notice The other are the whole Body many Discerning Heads whose observation the dangerous Passages could not Pass who gave such Reasons and Arguments to their Private Brethren as convinced them that there were Just Reasons to Alter the Phrases and new Model some Expressions Now that you may the more rightly Judge of this Matter I will give you the Names of these Private Brethren who were so Hasty and Inconsiderate tho' when with the Body so thoughtful as to receive much light from the strong Reasons of the many Discerning Heads They were Dr. Bates Mr. Howe Mr. Stretton Mr. Alsop Mr. Shower Mr. Burgess Mr. Slauter Mr. Quick Mr. Evans Mr. Veal Mr. Hill of Roterdam Mr. Glascock and three or four more The Names of the many Discerning Heads I need not give and therefore I will leave the Reader to Pause a while on the Representation my Brother hath given of this Matter and go on to consider what he further saith of them II. The Private Brethren such as Dr. Bates Mr. Howe c. received so much light from the many Discerning Heads that as they might so they did see Just Reasons to alter the Phrases and New Model some Expressions ay to wave and pass by some Phrases as what could not bear a sound sense but were liable to be Interpreted to a sense and sound of Malignity to the Gospel In this place 't will be Expedient that we compare the Two Papers and see what are the Waved and Altered Passages The First Paper 1. Bearing with One anothers Infirmities and Different Sentiments about Logical or Philosophical Terms or meerly Humane Forms of Speech in matters of Lesser weight The Third Paper 1. Bearing with One anothers Infirmities and Different Sentiments in matters of Lesser weight not contending about Logical or Philosophical Terms or meer Humane Forms of Speech The Alteration in this place how Insignificant soever it may seem to some is in a point that Affects the very Vitals of our Holy Religion For by this Change the words in matters of lesser weight being transferr'd from Logical Terms unto different sentiments a matter of another kind with an addition of not Contending about Logical or Philosophical Terms c. without the Restriction in matters of lesser weight a Liberty to contend about these Terms in matters of greater weight is denied and the Assenters unto the Third Paper are brought under an Obligation to sit still as silent Spectators whilst the Episcopians and Socinians are Exposing to the greatest Reproach the Logical and Philosophical Terms and Humane Forms of Speech pitch'd upon by the Church of God to Explain the Foundation Points both of Revealed and Natural Religion To clear thus much I desire to Inculcate these following Particulars 1. That it 's an Unexpressible Grievance unto all sorts of Hereticks to observe in the Church of God a strict Adherence to those Logical or Philosophical Terms that have been chosen and settled as what do most aptly and clearly explain those glorious Truths discovered unto us by the Light of Nature and Scripture Revelation and clearly distinguish these most Important Truths from Errour 2. That it hath been the way of Heriticks to quarrel with these Terms because not found in the Letter of Scripture Tho' the Controversie is about the sense of Scripture ay about the sense of every Text is there a Controversie with one Heretick or other yet will they have us to confine our selves to Scripture phrases in Explaining Scripture phrases Tho' it 's undoubtedly True that there is no better way to Understand the genuine sense of Scripture than by comparing Scripture with Scripture yet it 's no less True that it 's not so easie to convey the True sense unto others without the help of Humane Forms of Speech Amongst many others it 's well observed by the learned Mr. Norton of New-England that the most Pestilent Doctrines have often times been communicated in the Language of Scripture which was the reason why St. Hierome speaking against the Heresies of Ebion Photinus Marcion and Basilides did say Think not the Gospel to be in the words of the Scripture but in the sense And Mr. Norton adds who is Ignorant that the Arians speak Heresie by that Text The Father is greater than I Joh. 14.28 But Biddles Scripture Catechism is an illustrious Evincement of this Truth for there he hath in Scripture words delivered very gross Errours for instance that God hath a similitude or shape whose Essence is confined to the Heavens and the like as also that God is not Omniscient for he knows not what will be hereafter Whereas in Truth God is Omniscient and Incomprehensible too And though these Terms are not in the Letter of Scripture yet the things contained in these Terms and Phrases are Expresly in the Scriptures And as the learned Bishop of Worcester affirms It is the Wiser and Safer Course to keep in the same Way which the Christian Church hath used ever since she hath agreed to express her sense in such Terms which were thought most proper for the purpose And since no other can be found more significant and proper for that End it looks like yielding too Great Advantage to our Adversaries to give up the Boundaries of our Faith Pref. to the Vindie of the Prin. p. 2 3. But I do also Observe 3. That the first Attempts made by them who forsake the Faith are on these Terms and Phrases Thus the Socinians as I have shewn in my Growth of Errour did about the year 1562. labour to engage the Ministers in some parts of Poland to Abstain from the use of Philosophical Terms or Humane Forms of Speech and as Stonius Observes it was this year concluded in a Synod at Pin●zow that the Ministers should not use any Philosophical Modes of Speech such as the Trinity Essence c. but that every one should confine himself to the Terms used in the Writings of the Prophets and Apostles and in the Apostles Creed p. 175. Episcopius and his Followers took the same Method when they Attempted to subvert the commonly received Doctrine about Christ's Satisfaction In a Letter to Schotlerus he confesses 't was charged upon him that he used other phrases than those received by the Church and such as seemed to Favour the Socinian Cause and the Truth of the charge against him he does not deny Curcellaeus doth the same and has a Dissertation against Maresius wherein he defends the laying by of sundry phrases used by the Church of God because not found in the Letter of Scripture but both Episcopius and Curcellaeus did not content themselves in the laying aside the Use of these phrases but went on to oppose the Truths Explained by 'em and at last lodged themselves in the Socinian Tents and are Justly by Sandius placed in the Anti-Trinitarian Bibliothec. 4. As it has been the Practice of Hereticks to make