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A40898 The imposter dethron'd, or, The Quakers throne of truth detected to bee Satans seat of lyes by way of reply to a quaking and railing pamphlet written by Capt. Bishop entituled, The throne of truth exalted over the powers of darkness wherein is briefly hinted the rottenness of the Quakers conversion and perfection ... / by Ralph Farmer. Farmer, Ralph. 1658 (1658) Wing F441A; ESTC R24036 94,861 136

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by translation they use to call an unprofitable and empty fellow a Fungus which is a Mushrom He that will be informed of them let them read Gerhards Herbal where among other evil qualities of them you shall finde some of them for there are of several kindes made use of to kill and smother Bees to drive them out of their Hives and bereave the poor Bees of their meat houses and lives And in some places they serve sayes he to carry fire from place to place and which being open'd send forth a thin powder like to smoak This of the Puck foists which is one kinde of Mushrom which is very noysome and hurtful to the eyes causing a kinde of blindnesse which is called Pur-blinde or Sand-blinde and they grow saith he some of them where old rusty iron lies or rotten clouts or neer to Serpents Dens or roots of trees that bring forth venemous fruit In sum they are a slimy excrementitious matter suddenly arising out of the earth having no root and so of no continuance tending as suddenly to putrifaction and rottenness whence they had their original And how this doth quadrare and almost run upon all four and fully suit to hypocritical productions is easie to discern For a little to apply and but a little for an ordinary capacity may carry it on Is it not strange and is it not that which makes the wonder now a-daies that sots drunkards wheres whoremongers covetous persons and oppressors persons stupid and ignorant of no brains or knowledge in morality less in Religion silly clownes and simple women whose capacities reach not beyond their breeding and imployment persons fanatical vertiginous factious of unstable and unsetled spirits and indeed almost all sorts of vile persons that these should be the matter of which the Quakers are gendred Doth not the world wonder at this as it did after the beast which arose out of the Sea Rev. 13. But alas friends cease your wondering Is it such a strange thing to see old rusty iron dirty clouts and rotten trees bring forth dainty Mushroms Is not this the mode of the ungrounded unrooted Professor Know you not or have you not heard of the Parable of the Sower There are a sort of Professors which quickly suddenly take but not having depth of earth not well rooted they dry away and wither Matth. 13. And it 's observable what Matthew hath Mark 4. ver 5. concerning them Luke 8. and Mark also ver 5. That forthwith immediately 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 all of a sudden it sprung up And why Because they had no depth of earth slight and ungrounded Professors start up suddenly and for the same reason they suddenly wither as in the following verses Ill weeds we say grow apace not so good herbs and fruit-bearing plants they bring forth with patience they must have time to perfect them And here let me not be mistaken I do not any way judge or limit the Almighty in his operations upon souls to be converted either for the matter the persons to be converted or the manner the suddenness of it for he is a most free and a most powerful Agent and in my soul I bless and do adore him But let it be considered his workings are not ordinarily so sudden violent and so general especially with such as have been grosly ignorant and scandalous he doth not usually bring souls from the lowest condition of darknesse ignorance and stupidity both natural and spiritual and of profane and ungodly conversation to the heights of light knowledge and holiness even to perfection at an instant in a moment within a few daies or weeks or moneths as these pretend to be These sudden violent and hasty progressions are not usually well grounded or perpetual for indeed they have no bottome no stable foundation and argues that though there be a change 't is not true conversion every turning every change is not conversion The Scripture tells us of some who turn aside after Satan 1 Tim. 1. 15. and that some shall turn away their ears from the truth 2 Tim. 4. 4. and shall be turned unto fables which is the third thing considerable in the Quakers conversion and will evidence their imperfection for perfection stands in these two things to be perfectly fully informed and established in truth of doctrine and faith and to be absolutely fully compleated in holinesse and if a person come short in either he is not absolutely compleatly perfect And now if a man turn from prophaneness to heresie from an ungodly conversation in point of practise to an un-christian or anti-christian perswasion in point of doctrine he cannot be said to be truly converted much lesse absolutely perfect The greatest Heretickes have been sober and serious persons and I do sadly seriously and with respect to the welfare of peoples soules propose it to be weighed by honest yet simple hearts and so easie to be seduced And let them tell me Is there not as great danger and doth it not bring upon the soul as certain perdition and damnation to be under the devils dominion by heresie and false doctrine as by a wicked conversation If not What matter is it whither a man be a Christian or no or what Religion he be of so he be otherwise an honest man and of a good conversation Doth not the Word tell us of damnable heresies which bring swift destruction and that the damnation of such as imbrace them 2 Pet. 2. 1 2 3. slumbers not 1 Tim. 4. 1 2. And of some that depart from the faith i.e. true doctrine and give heed to seducing spirits and doctrines of devils vented by such as speak lies in hypocrisie and that some are thereby in the devils snare 2 Tim. 2. 25 26. and led captive by him at his will Much more might be and hath been elswhere spoken and written to this purpose not to be denied If then the Quakers do turn from one ungodly way to another as certainly destructive and deadly we cannot account them perfect Nor will their own sayings boasting pretendings avail them for he is not just who acquits himself but he whom God acquitteth And now as for the Anti-christian doctrines of the Quakers they have been sufficiently discovered and whether they acknowledge their heresies or no makes not to the matter 2 Cor. 4. 3 4. for Satans captives are blinded by him and the Lord in judgement gives some men over to the efficacy of errour 2 Thes 2. 10 11 12. to believe lies to their condemnation And let it here again be minded to evince the unsoundnesse of the Quakers conversion aad thence their imperfection the effect or end of Gospel conversion is to change and alter men both in minde and manners and to bring them to that Gospel temper prophecied of and promised Isa 11. 6. 7. 8. The Wolfe shall dwell with the Lamb and the Leopard shall lie down with the Kid and the