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A62864 Anti-pædobaptism, or, The third part being a full review of the dispute concerning infant baptism : in which the arguments for infant baptism from the covenant and initial seal, infants visible church membership, antiquity of infant baptism are refelled [sic] : and the writings of Mr. Stephen Marshal, Mr. Richard Baxter ... and others are examined, and many points about the covenants, and seals and other truths of weight are handled / by John Tombes. Tombes, John, 1603?-1676. 1657 (1657) Wing T1800; ESTC R28882 1,260,695 1,095

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that_o be_v capable_a of_o the_o act_n ver_fw-la 6._o the_o lord_n thy_o god_n will_v circumcise_v thy_o heart_n and_o the_o heart_n of_o thy_o seed_n to_o love_v the_o lord_n thy_o god_n so_o that_o it_o be_v not_o mean_v of_o those_o that_o be_v uncapable_a of_o so_o love_a mr._n g._n yet_o add_v and_o thus_o much_o that_o place_n act._n 2.39_o do_v hold_v forth_o and_o contribute_v to_o infant-baptism_n to_o show_v that_o child_n be_v comprehend_v in_o the_o covenant_n with_o their_o father_n and_o both_o these_o last_o promise_n be_v of_o evangelical_n privilege_n they_o must_v needs_o be_v communicable_a to_o all_o under_o the_o gospel-covenant_n so_o than_o it_o remain_v that_o god_n still_o be_v in_o covenant_n with_o every_o believer_n and_o his_o seed_n answ._n that_o act_v 2.39_o neither_o show_v that_o child_n of_o believer_n be_v comprehend_v universal_o and_o necessary_o with_o their_o parent_n nor_o contribute_v aught_o to_o infant-baptism_n be_v show_v in_o the_o 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