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A07805 The encounter against M. Parsons, by a revievv of his last sober reckoning, and his exceptions vrged in the treatise of his mitigation. Wherein moreouer is inserted: 1. A confession of some Romanists, both concerning the particular falsifications of principall Romanists, as namely, Bellarmine, Suarez, and others: as also concerning the generall fraude of that curch, in corrupting of authors. 2. A confutation of slaunders, which Bellarmine vrged against Protestants. 3. A performance of the challenge, which Mr. Parsons made, for the examining of sixtie Fathers, cited by Coccius for proofe of Purgatorie ... 4. A censure of a late pamphlet, intituled, The patterne of a Protestant, by one once termed the moderate answerer. 5. An handling of his question of mentall equiuocation (after his boldnesse with the L. Cooke) vpon occasion of the most memorable, and feyned Yorkeshire case of equiuocating; and of his raging against D. Kings sermon. Published by authoritie Morton, Thomas, 1564-1659. 1610 (1610) STC 18183; ESTC S112913 342,598 466

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the least note of Insincerity The Pamphleter My Proposition was onely this No Protestant or Heretike not excommunicate by name lieth subiect vnto any penalty pretended when as my sincerily dealing Aduersary as before citeth me to say that such are not subiect to any Penaltie at all which is his corruption and not my proposition The Censure 16 This will be soone tried for in the Full Satisf cap. 4. pag. 5. I deliuered his proposition thus No Protestant or Heretike not excommunicate by name lieth subiect to any penalty pretended What shadow then had this insincerely dealing Libeller thus to traduce me as though I had falsified in this Citation Who againe is so dull as not to vnderstand that seeing all kinde of outward penalties were implied in those which were pretended it must needs follow that he that is not subiect vnto the pretended penalties is not subiect to any at all The Pamphleter I said that no Protestant in England is excommunicate by name which word In England for which our Controuersie was he leaueth out The Censure 17 This is as easily tried as the former for Full Satisf cap. 4. pag. 5. I repeated the Pamphleters sentence expresly thus No Protestant or Heretike not excommunicate by name as none in England is lieth subiect c. I locked vp the word England within the 〈◊〉 of a Parenthesis lest it might not be seene and yet hee blusheth not to say that I haue left it out What shall we iudge of the temper of this fellow who being in England can not see England The Pamphleter He ingeminates this sentence Protestants are no Heretikes when as I neuer spake or thought any such absolute assertion The Censure 18 We shall need no more but to set downe the words The obiection in my Discouerie was this They who by your slanderous doctrine make all Protestants in your opinion Heretikes so odious as vnworthy of ciuill society c. the Pamphleter made this answer No learned Catholike so reputeth the Protestants or any one Protestant in this kingdome But he saith that this was not to grant absolutely that no Protestant was an Heretike Very good I then perceiue his meaning is that he granted it not absolutely but equiuocatingly Well let him enioy his arte for me I enuie him not although this be the best facultie that he hath The Pamphleter You said that our generall assumption was this that All Protestants are heretiks excommunicate but must needs grant that this citation is false because the word Generall you know comprehendeth all and excludeth none The Censure 19 Good Reader I pray thee do not laugh at the Pamphleter phleter nor send him backe to his English Rules where thou hast red that There be excepted from this generall Rule as followeth But this noble Disputant forsooth calleth the generall Assumption false which can admit any exception at all 20 I should proceed to censure his difference betweene these words Heretike and Excommunicate and Heretike or Excommunicate and to confute it by their Bulla coena and then to shew how inconsideratly he vpbraideth vs with the sentence of a kinsman of his owne as we may guesse by his name but more by his distemper euen M. Broughton because that passionate man did condemne their vulgar translation farre more and lastly his loose Argument to proue the Heresie of Arrianisme out of 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 seeing that Bellarmine hath iustified Caluins sense therein And I thinke that he himselfe hath need to reforme his Argument lest that he be thought thereby which is an heresie indeed to haue diuided the Essence and substance of God and lastly I should haue repelled his obiection of Trinus-vnus whereby after the naming of the Father Sonne Holy-ghost I complexiuely comprehended the Vnitie in Trinitie according both to the sense of our Christian Article and also to the forme vsed by Antiquitie together with the confutation of some other his dissolute exceptions But these few are sufficient to paterne out this Libeller Hitherto of his falshoods in his Pamphlet One word or two of his Moderate Answer The Pamphleter He did not obiect any falshood vnto me in his Preamble when he was charged to note some falsifications in Catholikes The Censure 21 I did not in that little Preamble infist in the Pamphleters vntrueths and falshoods Ergo by his Logike I could not proue him to be guiltie of falshood This is the consequence of this famous scholar who was chosen to be one of the Three if we beleeue himselfe who should Dispute against all Bishops and Doctours of the Protestant side But if I aske from what topicke place this Argument is fetched I thinke he will hardly shew any except it be ab absurdo because the reason is apparent why I did not meddle with his falsities for as then I was to deale only with their Achilles Bellarmine so that I might well neglect this Gleaner Besides that I could haue ranged this fellow among the guiltie persons is as euident by the sixt Chapter of this Encounter which is spent in repeating the manifolde errours and slanders which this man committed against Protestants and were so inexcusable that his Patron M. Parsons when hee should haue satisfied for them suffered them all to stand still vpon this libellers score whom wishing vnto him 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 I leaue fantastically disputing with his owne shadow And now returne vnto M. Parsons his Reckoning CHAP. VII Conteining an Answer vnto the seuenth Chapter of M. Parsons concerning the obiected Omissions in not defending them wom he calleth my Clients §. I. 1 AFter that M. Parsons had played the part of a Promoter in calling into question concealed falsities as he vntruly termed them he proceedeth to ransacke the foresaid Omissions in which his Accusation I finde nothing but preposterous and superfluous heaping vp of the ragges of his olde Wardrobe called the Mitigation and all to the end he might make vp a grosse-bellied bocke wherein he exacteth of me to satisfic for all incommodious speeches which haue passed from some Protestants which is a charge that neither I did assume nor could M. Parsons by his Commission impose it vpon me who is delighted with the irksome iarre of some hot spirits that rage against Caluin especially in the point of Arrianisme The summe of M. PARSONS Reckoning in this point concerning Caluine 1 produced at that time somewhat largely and particularly eighteen examples partly out of the olde and partly out of the new Testament maliciously peruerted by Caluine in fauour of Iewes and Arrians against the trueth and certainty of Christian Religion leauing out twenty more which Doctour Hunnius doth handle c The Reuiew 2 When we do but consider what is the maladie of adnerse criminations that may serue for a part of an Answer which Bellarmine vseth in like case Non multùm resert quid irati homines dixerint For as