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A96888 A dialogue, arguing that arch-bishops, bishops, curates, neuters, are to be cut-off by the law of God; therefore all these, with their service, are to be castout by the law of the land. Notwithstanding, the world pleads for their own, why some bishops should be spared; the government maintained; the name had in honour still; but the word of God is cleare against all this, for the casting-of-all-forth. The great question is, which way of government now? For two wayes are contended for, The Presbyteriall and Independent: something is said to both these wayes: but we have a sure word for it, that these two wayes are but in shew two, and will assuredly meet in one. Neuters are shewen openly here, and the curse of God upon them. Presented to the Assembly of Divines. Woodward, Ezekias, 1590-1675. 1644 (1644) Wing W3486A; Thomason E34_10; ESTC R22862 54,646 56

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1. goeth downe into the valley so the LORD will have his people lead This way is as it is called a Church-way the way of Holinesse No Lion shall be there The uncleane shall not passe-over it And now that I have mentioned them the uncleane I come to the remainder of my undertakings The casting-out of the Bishops Curates those uncleane persons for like Bishops like Curates called so in a contrarietie to their office as a mountaine is called in a contrarietie to what it does It has its name from motion they say but moves like a mountaine So these Curates have their names as Bishops have theirs from cure and care and over-sight when they care for nothing nor did oversee any thing but their Rents Tythes and in comes and to make provision for their lusts Wee cannot thinke that Wren or Pearce these were called Bishops would endure their Curates should be better than themselves but as themselves as brutish men as drunken sotts as vile Priests as treacherous Prophets as loose and swinish in their life and then more then probable they will be Naballs at their death And what are the people now that their guides are blind and brutish They must needs be so too from the Prophets and Priests is prophanenesse gone forth into all the Land Jer. 23. 15. They have leavened the Land with Atheisme abominable Idolatries and Heathenish prophanenesses And now all yee beasts of the feild come Isa 56. 9. to devoure yea all yee beasts in the Forrest And so it is according to the good word of the LORD for His watchmen are blind they are all ignorant Ver. 10. they are all dumbe doggs they cannot barke sleeping lying downe lo●ing to slumber You see whom I meane by these Curates I argue now for the casting-of-them-forth They that have committed the same abominations which others It is argued for the casting-out of Curates Jer. 29. 2● having committed have been rosted in the fire and then made a curse These ought to be thrust-out of the Land by the Law of the Land But these Curates have committed such abominations Speake have you any thing to say for them A. Not a word I must not plead for them whom God condemnes You must make proofe That so they have don according to those abominations B. They have committed villanies in Israel adultery with their neighbours wives They have spoken lying words God knowes how many They have blasphemed God and the King they have polluted God and his Day and his House and all the honours and services there A. You have said you have not proved B. There is the clearest proofe of all this that can be desired A Century is come-out already where their names are upon everlasting Record and their horrible abominations registred That one Century a hundred implies nine Centuries more they make a Chiliad a thousand And certainly had wee the names of those and their abominations registred also who are under the Kings protection we should have a booke as large as that wee call the Centuries A. Now that their places their wickednesse rather have spewed-them-out whither are they gone B. To the place where such men shall finde favour to Oxford They have proceeded to the highest degrees of wickednesse in the countries they are Doctors in the Art of drinking whoring rioting now they gone to Oxford as we say to proceed Doctors of Divinity and thence dispersed to those severall places whence Gods faithfullest servants have been cast-out where they will drink the healths for they cannot pray of their good Lords and Masters and for the prosperity of their Armies now in Array against the Lord Jesus Christ for as those Armies prosper so the Curates shall prosper But now we heare they shall be all summoned to make their appearance at Oxford for as they have there a thing they call a Parliament made-up as aforesaid for the subverting the Lawes and Liberties of the Kingdome so there must bee an assembly of Divines too such as have been spued out of their places for the establishing of the religion so often protested for Ah Lord But I forbeare The poore commit themselves to the Lord Thou shalt preserve Psal 1● ● them from this generation for ever The wicked walke on every side when the vilest men are ex●lted These Curates as unsavoury salt are cast-out of the Church Now the Divell has admitted them into his Chappell Let him take their Service too For as like Bishops like Curates so like Curates like Service abominable all I argue for the casting of it forth This service is Dogs-meat it must be cast-out to the Dogs A. I could never think the Curates Service to be childrens meat but never heard I the Curates service called Dogs-meat before B. Yes you imply as much your selfe If not childrens meat then whose meat Dogs-meat I think But I argue it Torn flesh is Dogs-meat The Curates service is as Torne flesh A. Prove that if you can That the Curates service is as Torn flesh B. The Curates Service is a torn distracted service here is a peece there is a peece here is the former part and there is the latter here the first service there the second service here read at the Desk there said in the Pulpit thence drawn up to the Altar here are saying prayers there are tooting prayers upon the Cymball and the Organ here they roared like Beares there they braied like Asses and yet Divine service they say But hearken what the LORD sayes As torn flesh Dogges Exod. 22. 38. Mal. 1. 13 meat so is these Curates Service unto Me Doe you bring that which is torne to me Cast it to the Dogges It is done they have it at Oxford and all over the Land yea all over the Christian world where the Devill hath his Chappell and where these abominable Curates and Priests are Let them alone with their meat no man envies them no good man but pittieth them yet let them alone these Curates with their service together Now I must compleat my undertaking and argue against the Neuters A. I pray you explain your selfe and tell us what these are B. What they are They are Neuters a cursed generation of men seem not to know their right hand from their left not which way to Who are ●●uters turn I can liken them to nothing so fit as to a shadow of a man a picture such as you may observe ordinary in Flanders There is a thing they call a Christ on the left hand another thing they call the virgin Mary on the right hand and in the midst a third thing called a Catholick with this inscription before him Crime vortam nescio A. I le heare no more of that such a picture does not become your gravity nor is it proper to the matter in hand B. I like your plainnesse well I spake it but to try how you had profited by all our discourse hitherto True it is such