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Word A	Word B	Word C	Word D	Occurrence	Frequency Band	MI	MI Band	Prominent
religion_n	law_n	liberty_n	parliament_n	4,902	5	6.1958	4	false

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ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A40456	Querees propounded by the Protestant partie concerning the peace in generall, now treated of in Ireland, and the answers thereunto made in behalfe and name of the Irish nation / by one well affected thereto ; to the first copies whereof many things are inserted and much added.	French, Nicholas, 1604-1678.	1644 (1644)	Wing F2182; ESTC R35691	21,588	38

whereof it is evident was the sole cause of the defeat At Loghleagh you were shamefully beaten At Rosse we had our intent which was to defend the Towne though you got the field by the advantage of your Artillery and somewhat else must not be spoken off At Keshenennan being in all not a full thousand men horse and foote very slightly provided we kept the passage against your great Army of five or sixe thousand horse and foote At Clancurry we had also our intent which was to send you home without annoyance of us At Portlester you got the worst as is aforesaid All such Castles as we have gained from you we wonne them in a manner without difficulty blowes or losse Ballinikill onely excepted which also held not out much more then halfe a day after the first shot of a Cannon though you vauntingly glorified it with the name of invincible yet in each of them you abounded with men and all other Military provision Now in all these battles encounters skirmishes and Castles wonne or lost it is particularly to bee noted that you never gayned from us without stiffe and stout resistance sharpe blowes and much losse most commonly and with much advantage of Artillery Armes Amunition and other warlike necessaries whereas whensoever we got from you I say for the most part it was evermore without much opposition damage or bloud with all kinde of disadvantage of our side which evidently demonstrats whose men are most cowarded or stood worst If we still runne away why did not you over-runne and conquer the kingdome And if a man armed onely with a Club or a Gunne without powder should flye from another compleatly armed and provided to his hearts desire can any with reason therefore call that man a coward I should rather hold him for a Cullion that pursues such a man or at least cannot wrest his will or winne his wish from him If our men thus nakedly appointed could hold play for a whole yeare to yours plentifully furnished while succour was a comming as it appeares they did may they be nickenamed Cowards rather the contrary for all this proves manifestly that you were very cowards or they very valiant fellowes and I thinke you will rather averre the later then avow the former How ever I am certaine all Christian Nations else will and doe proclayme them valiant yea England and Scotland their most spleenative enemies Prince Rupert will witnesse it And out of these premisses I deduce an infallible consequence two or three ergo our men and monyes are considerable ergo it is dangerous for you in a new warre to hazard the losse of the kingdome and utter extirpation of the protestant party Ergo it is better and safer for you his Majesty should give content to this Nation by giving his Royall assent to our propositions But you say it is not in his Majesties power to condescend to our demands If he shall it will set popery againe in jurisdiction introduce the Supremacie of Rome and take away or endanger his Majesties supreme authority in causes Ecclesiasticall a diminution of honour and power not be endured I answer we desire not the repealing of any ancient grounded lawes but to be disburdened of certayne grievous pressures layd on us either by acts of state or parliament or the lawlesse Law of Sic volo sic jubeo fraudulently or violently enacted and executed by the unsupportable tyranny of the ministers of this subordinat governement destructive to our Religion lives and liberties which a free parliament with his Majesties Royall assent can legally doe therefore it lyes in his Majesties power to grant our propositions Doubtlesse you will acknowledge King Charles to be as lawfull absolut powerfull a King of England and Ireland tam de jure quam de facto as was Henry the VIII or Edward the VI Who as it were at a blow beat downe and suppressed a Religion of above eight hundred or rather twelve hundred yeares standing seazed on IESUS CHRISTS owne patrimony the possessions of the Clergy confiscated their goods sacked and prophaned their Churches in fine turned above ten thousand of them out of doores to seeke their fortunes without being heard or orderly convicted for any offence contrary to all Law conscience and common reason For the Abbeys hold their Lands in Franke Almoine and in Fee they were possessed of them by the donation of severall Saxon English and Norman Kings and Subjects continued legally by prescription established by law and confirmed by the Charters of Kings as that of Magna Charta 9. H. 3. and the confirmation thereof 28. Ed. 1. Where it is granted that the Church of England shall be free and have its liberties inviolable and cap. 2. judgement given against them shall be held for naught Also sententia lata super confirmatione Chartarum by Ed. 1. or ●● Ed. 3. cap. 8. If any statute be made contrary to Magna Charta it shall be voyde or the confirmation of all these 1. 6. 7. 8. of Rich. 2. and 4. H 4. All which were intended to prevent tyranny and secure the Church then being visibly knowne and generally reverenced for to no other Church were they granted neyther can any other enjoy them Yet did Henry the eight and Edward the sixt assume the power to controvert and subvert all these which you approve and applaud though they were acts surmounting the puisance of heaven and you will not allow King Charles the power of ordinary actions and sublunary things in our behalfes albeit you avow his consent given to the Scots as aforesaid by act of parliament to pull downe Bishops without whom a parliament is no parliament In equity and reason whatsoever Common-law may pretend to the contrary His Majesty by a publicke Declaration in Print declared the late Earle of Strafford innocent for matter of bloud yet was he compelled after to subscribe to the condemnation and decollation of the said Earle to content the parliament of England as yet insatiably discontented All these I say you approve and commend and yet must his Majesties hands be bound and his gracious favours lockt up from us under pretext forsooth of impossibilities in our demands though they contayne nought but what legally layes in his Majesties Royall brest to grant As for your wonted childish foppery which you call popery to be set againe in jurisdiction our propositions import as you meane it no such thing but that we may be allowed the freedome of the Roman Catholicke Religion which hath here continued in jurisdiction if you know what meanes jurisdiction above a thousand yeares maugre all your fiery furies and persecutions And suppose it were in jurisdiction as you understand it no disinteressed judgement can see what his Majesty should loose thereby his Rents and Customes would be still the same if not much more by reason of the freedome of ingresse and egresse of trafficke and the fidelity of Officers he should gayne a

stand in though before they were for so many the most considerable part of the whole kingdome Their Common sort are all for the most part murdered and starved and such of the Nobility and Gentry as are remayning will not for their estates whereof they can make little benefit hazard the losse of their persons in your service to be exposed to all dangers for a poore lively-hood only to be drawen out of prey and pillage seeing you cannot otherwise maintayne them of any place of honour trust command or benefit by your old crooked rules they are incapable at least so are they sure to be made and in fine if you be masters let them not doubt to be slaves if not utterly extirpated with the rest of their country-men your opposits for the ancient spleene you beare to their Religion and Nation and unquenchable thirst to their estates how ever now in your neede you make use of their endeavours and services Can you then with reason imagine that their reason is so faire blinded as not to foresee this Doe you thinke they will be so effeminat as for a sufferance which cannot long continue they will expose themselves to be the perpetuall object of their countries wrath the abject of all Christian Nations yea and the obloquy of all the world to advance your heathenish designes by enduring all present and future miseries by fighting against their friends allyes themselves and their consciences by assisting to extirpat their owne Nation and Religion which hath now above foure-score yeares withstood so many furious assaults of your tyrannous pressures and persecutions and betray their lives liberties and estates to a never ending slavery and infamy being still exposed to your new pretended attaynders and corruptions of bloud which no pseudo-pseudo-parliament of yours can wash away nor may their grievances be thereby redressed but by a free and legall parliament such as they shall never have by your consents though you did promise sweare vow protest and proclayme a restitution of all freedome and favour Your words and Proclamations so often violated both before and since the warres and your wonted faithlesse proceedings confirmes them in this beliefe The violence of the storme is over-blowen they hope and I am confident they are resolved to beare out with their fellow-vassals rather then strike themselves aground under your Lee But suppose your proclamations brought in a considerable party as I cannot beleeve they will you will make but a perpetuall Warre in regard the rest of the kingdome is so possessed and swayed by the Catholicke Bishops and Clergy that in case no reasonable accommodation be made or content herein be given the kingdome will be so imbroyled and rent that his Majesty will not be able to draw any assistance thereout to support his Crowne hee will loose all his owne revenue and our ayde of men and monyes which are under favour far transcending any his Majesty may expect from his protestant party here if any such he hath and more to be regarded then the bare walles and empty carcasses of Churches whereto for the most part no protestants save onely the Ministers with their wives did ever resort in regard the flocke were all of the Catholicke fold and all the labours endevours and persecutions being frustrat which since the suppression were imployed to propagate the protestant Religion in this kingdome or fasten it on the body thereof though the Court of wardes hath wrought on a few degenerate members and devided them from God and their Countrey I will not say from their King but I pray it may not so prove But let it now be considered whether the protestant or Catholicke party here is most powerfull and can bring the King most men and money and if it be not as necessary or more to give the Catholickes content as the protestants His Majesty we are confident is graciously inclined towards us as appeares by his severall favourable declarations made in our behalfes before some persons of worth and credit now in this kingdome ready to testifie so much To conclude can those of the Pale or any other to whom griping misery or raging jelousie of being vilipended by certayne unnaturall and ungratefull patriots may suggest a thought of deviding or withdrawing themselves from our party be of so slavish an humour as to joyne with you when they shall reflect and call to minde how their immediat predecessors and some of themselves perhaps yet living by whose power and prowesse in the late precedent warre you kept your footing in the kingdome were by you rewarded disregarded and abused Was it not the usuall taunt of the late Lord Strafford and all his fawning Sycophants in their private Colioquies to those of the Pale that they were the most refractory men of the whole kingdome that it was more necessary yea for their crooked ends they should be Planted and supplanted then any other thereof that his Majesty would never be absolute Soveraigne whilest there lived a Papist therein These the like were the ordinary Cabbinet discourses of the state in generall whereinto sometimes in publick their malice would burst forth and where plantations might not reach defective Titles should extend Many Officers and Gentlemen who had done very good service in the said Warre and lost their bloud and limbs therein for which they had Annuall pensions conferred on them were soone after deprived of their said pensions for onely having refused to take the Oath of Supremacie or Allegeance in such forme as protestants use some whereof I have seene without hands which they left at Kinsale in defence of the Crowne of England for which they remayned also without thankes without pension for only being faithfull to God and their owne soules Many of the ancient Irish who stucke steadfastly to the Queenes quarrell and lost therein their lives had their estates planted with as little justice favour or reason as those who endevoured to take the Crowne of her head and kingdome out of her hands I knew my selfe a certaine Gentleman who being questioned before the state for matter of Recusancy as you terme it answered it was not demanded of me the day of Kinsale what Religion I was of it is true replyed an ungratefull states-man I confesse you did good service that day but you doe now as the Cow that gives much milke and spils it after with a kicke of her heele and this kicke forsooth was no other then kicking in spirit at their foresaid execrable Oathes and being a Roman Catholicke Who then reflecting on your Tyranny injustice malice ingratitude faithlesse promises and undeserved persecutions will be so stupid or craven harted as on your brittle proclamations to adhere to you put their heads like Asses againe into the halter Did not Tyrone and Tyre-conell come in and submit on faire conditions Yet had not their heeles saved their heads the former had beene tripped up and the later chopped off and so may all heads be which will