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A07811 A iust and moderate answer to a most iniurious, and slaunderous pamphlet, intituled, An exact discouery of Romish doctrine in case of conspiracie and rebellion Wherein the innocency of Catholike religion is proued, and euery obiection returned vpon the Protestant accuser, and his owne profession. With licence of superior. Broughton, Richard. 1606 (1606) STC 18188; ESTC S112914 49,079 64

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A iust and moderate Answer To a most iniurious and slaunderous Pamphlet intituled An exact Discouery of Romish doctrine in case of Conspiracie and Rebellion Wherein the innocency of Catholike religion is proued and euery obiection returned vpon the Protestant Accuser and his owne profession Psal 57. vers 1. Si veré vtique Iustitiam loquimini recta iudicate filij hominum With licence of Superior TO THE MOST EXCELLENT and mightie Prince our gratious and dread Soueraigne IAMES by the grace of God King of great Brittaine France and Ireland defender of the faith TWo thinges most Gratious Soueraigne among the rest of chi●fest regard in terrene and humane affaires were euer apprised at the highest value Life the present being Fame and Reputation the beautie and splendor theereof The first giuing esse aft●r non esse to the greatest earthlie Creature the other maintaining in some sorte a per●ptuall life and glorious liuing when we be dead Therefore by how much the possessors of those dignities be more popular publique and greater in number State or preeminence ●y so many degrees vnworthily and trecherouslie to be depriued of them is more iniurious guil●ie of wickednesse and obnoxious to Restitution Concerning the former The late intended Conspiracy against the life of your Royall Maiestie the Life Vnion Rule and Direction to these vnited Kingdomes so many Nobles and Persons of esteeme was so heinous impiety that nothing which is holy can make it Legitimate no pretence of Religion can be alleadged to excuse it God and heauen condemne it Men and earth detest it Innocents bewaile it the Nocent and vnhappie Delinquents themselues perceiuing how their Religion reproueth it in repentance haue lamented it Protestants exclaime against it and your dutifull Religious and learned Catholikes Priests and others which haue endured most for their profession hold it in greatest horror and make it a subiect of their grieuous sorrow that any of their profession should attempt so barbarous and vnnaturall cruelty or practise any disobedience at all to your Highnesse And will sweare protest promise and performe to your Maiesty whatsoeuer Loyaltie Obedience and dutie is due from a subiect to his Temporall Prince by the word of God lawe of Nature or hath be●ne vsed by the subiects of this Kingdome to any your P●ogenito●s Christian from the first to the last acknowledge and rend●r to your honorable Counsaile and all Magistrat●s in ciui●l causes so much Honor Reuerence and Submission and to all other Protestant subiects like amitie and neighbourlie affection as if they were of the same Religion which we pr●fesse Concerning the second of publike reproache and defamation most worthy Prince if it only concerned the Catholikes of this Nation although it be no easie question to proue that men in such matters and at such times are masters of their fame yet they could be content to burie it in their graue of obliuion with so many miseri●s which they haue long susteined for their holy faith and to say with the Apostle Maledicimur et benedicimus persecutionem patimur et sustinemu● blasphemamur et obsecramus but when the Purgamenta huius mundi and omnium peripsema must be made the badge of all maintainers of that worshippe and all be stiled s●ditious and traiterous Persons quite contrarie to your Highnesse often Assertions and publique Proclamations That all Catholike subiects to all forraigne Princes your Confederates must weare that Liuerie and their Soueraignes be attended with such seruants All Catholike schooles termed Seminaries of rebellions and so directly not only the reputations of all those Vni●ersities Princes and Prelates of the Church of God but God himselfe whose howse it is and whose honor can neither be giuen nor taken away is thus condemned as is set forth in a late pamphlett intituled An exact Discouerie of Romish doctrine in case of Conspiracie Silence would be too suspicious of neglect in many greatest duties to God in heauen his Church on earth to your Maiestie and the whole Catholike world Therefore I po●e wretch and sinner an vnworthy member of that sacred bodie of Christ and one of your Highnesse obedient subiects in all submission craue pardon not only to make demonstrance of Catholikes due and expected Loyaltie to your Soueraigne Authoritie and refute the friuoulous obiections of that Author But with Dauid against Goliah in the behalfe of King Saul and the people of God to strike with his owne sword and returne all and euery of his deadlie reasons vppon himselfe and his owne Profession Which as I may lawfully obserue by common consent of all entreating of the law of conscience in this case being onely to vse our owne right of iust defence and not to offend or defame Accusers which charitable exposition I desire of all Protestant Readers So if I had trauelled no farther into that doctrine then to the last printed booke by your Maiesties Printer of the late intended conspiracy I might as easily performe it for that Protestant author giueth it out as a general Rule vndoubted Maxime to all professors of worship to take armes if their religion be in hazard and that no priuate man could thinke his life more happily bestowed than to fight pro Aris which is greater liberty than any opinion which our aduersarie can finde among Catholike Writers so by him attached of treason and rebellion But he shall receiue a more plaine and plentifull recitall both of publike positions and practises from all his neighbouring Allies in religion to proue his owne profession to be both Seminary and Granary of such prouision Which I am more inforced vnto because this discouerer by so many not vsuall Catholike Authors alleaged in his booke discloseth his inueterate malice against vs that he was now in his desired oppo●tunitie deliuered with ioy of that wherewith hee had trauailed so long in paine or to renew in subtile m●nner his old good affection to your Maiestie doth marshall you euen now otherwise all his re●sons be too childish in the number of c●uell Tyrants Excommunicates Apostat●es and the infamous of all ages not only Princes but base persons So that eyther for disloyalty to your Highnesse or inured inflamed hatred vnto vs or both hee can sinde no cent●r of his slaunders except your Maiestie bee m●de the man and marke where at the pen●ll canons and constitutions of holy Church did point and leuell hundreds of yeares bef●re you were borne ●r his relig●on receiued life This is the miserable distressed state of many thousands your most loyall and louing subiects dread Liege for their faithfull dutie to God and a religion taught in this kingdome and imbraced by all your progenitors and our ancestors so many hundred yeares from their first conuersion that euery aduersary may preach and print against vs and make their challenges as though eyther for ignorance we could not or for distrust of our cause we were vnwilling to make them answer or come to triall when quite contrary wee haue
this Dominion and your most fauoured be therein in the same case with your Suppliants that ancient faith and religion which wee defend cannot be cause to such offence for so all Catholikes in the world that be and euer were were to be censured by their Princes with such measure To professe that religion in a Protestant regiment cannot breede such variance for so all other Catholike subiects in all protestant Countries were in the same case And if one and the same religion can by any not appearing reason be feared by some subiect to suspitions at home which thei● politicke wisedome may suppose no forraigne protestant gouernment hath so sufficiently attended and considered we haue in the sincerity of our soules without all aequiuocation or doubtfull sence purged our selues from all jealosie of those opinions pretences or practises which our enemies could discouer worthy to b● obiected In answer whereof we haue both made manifest proofe that we doe not otherwise esteeme of the Protestants of this nation then our selues and those of the same faith with vs in all ciuill societies and communications that we giue the s●me temporall dutie loyalty and obedience to our Soueraigne honour to Nobles and loue to all that although we differ in religion yet we are so farre from making Protestants odious and vnworthy of mutuall communications in ciuill affaires that we defend their dignities magest●acy and rule against men of their owne profession We doe not assigne any soueraigne mere ciuill power ouer Princes as the Protestants in all places haue taught and practised neither any spirituall preeminence in any externe Prelate preiudiciall to Princes right as our opposers doe in Presbiteries and priuate Ministers we haue not denied either election or succession of Protestant Princes as our aduersaries haue done both to Catholikes and Protestants for their owne aduan●age our doct●ine denieth no obedience to you which was euer giuen to any Christian Prince of England from the first vnto the last King Henry the seuenth by whom and whose eldest Catholike Daughter your Highnesse is inthroned We doe not suggest the discouerers obiected forcible deposition of elected Princes Protestants haue depriued more in this short being of their Gospel by their popular mutenies and priuate authoritie than all Popes in all ages of christian religion with publike consent of Princes and people haue condiscended vnto Protestants haue taken Armes and raised generall rebellions more often against Princes not to be condemned than all Popes haue imposed censures by publike complaint against those which are noted in histories for extraordinary impious If any hath otherwise proceeded no Catholike may defend it wee doe not nor may not by our religion intend designe or practise iustifie or defend the murther of Princes or professe rebellions the discipline of the holy Church and generall Councells rules in our religion denie it for lawfull what priuileges protestancy claimeth what it hath taught and practised in that point Hungary Transiluania Germanie Bohemia Denmarke Heluetia Flanders Sweueland France Em●en your Maiesties kingdomes and your selfe haue beene witnesses for many yeares We doe not allow in opinion or may practise in act aequiuocation concealed double or secret sence in affaires of Common-weale and iuridicall interrogatories and profession of religion They be Protestants which defend and practise it in such causes not iustifiable in true diuinitie Our Priests neither vnder that reduplicatiue formalitie as Priests nor otherwise maintaine by our religion any position or pactise seditions or not obedient if any particular men for want of learning haue seemed to speake or thinke or for want of grace dealt or practised in other sence no religion made all men Saints religion did not teach it and Catholikes generally condemne it Therefore our confidence cannot but continue that the Royall promises of your highest Authority of Lenitie of no bloud for Religion shall not be recalled The demerritt of a fewe is no generall impediment The Scriptures instruct vs anima quae peccauerit ipsa moriatur one man must not be are the burthen of others sinnes All Schooles agree that no man can condignelie meritte first grace to any other though but one then the transgression of one or fewe cannot be demeritte for innocents to be afflicted great is the difference of the members in a naturall and ciuill body in this cause though the first doe suffer in some sence together by connexion in nature yet in the second the case and reason is different Remember most worthy Prince not only how grieuous but how generall the penalties against your Catholiques be enacted And yet new threatnings be made that new and more straunge as nec inter gentes shall be ordained The bodies honours reputations and riches of husbands to be punished for their wiues religion and soules to which they are neither husbands nor superiors Children to be taken from Parents Parents to be depriued of thei● education which Catholike Princes doe not and in conscience cannot offer to the Iewes themselues though in some opinion the slaues of Christians Children seruants kinsmen and neighbors are to be made hired Espialls to betray their parents masters kinred friends in things as vnlawfull which the whole Catholique world honoureth for holy and they venture their soules and fempitermtie that they be such commendable Artes Functions of phisicke c. which haue not connexion with Religion are to be put to silence in Catholikes The seuere penaltie for not monethlie professing the Protestant faith in Churches when in all diuinitie the precept of Profession of true and vndoubted faith in se and ex se bindeth but seldome is to be increased And others of such condition too many here to be mentioned and too grieuou● and vnnaturall we hope in your Princelie opinion to be concluded by a Kings consent Therefore vnder sauour for all I instance in one most heauie and generall in those of our deceased Queene All Priests though neuer so dutifull or obedient be censured for Traitors equally with the greatest offendor in sinne of Treason when many guiltlesse soules of that sacred order would not for thousands of worlds once consent to any such or a farre inferior offence A thing most straunge and beyond all example that men in respect only of their calling and function and that function so reuerenced by all our forefathers should without further cause be condemned as guilty of so a detested crime We defend holy priesthood to be a sacrament which being ordained by God cannot be changed by man Pope Prelate or humane power but remaineth in al things substance and doctrine the same which in those dayes when it was so honorably esteemed of all your christian progenitors when our mother Church kept her first integrity by your Highnesse iudgement as we are ready to make defence And if your Maiesty should decree the like law against any degree or profes●ion of your other subiects or the king of France or other Prince in other estate of men should enact by
with whome Io de Turrecrem Augustin●s de Ancona Castro and other Diuines consent which C●nsure Wickcl●ffe and hi● Protestant succ●ssors did imp●●e vppon P●inc●s and temporall Magistrates eyther for h●r●si● or any other ●rime Others as S●●us ●anus and Cordubensi● affir●e in that 〈…〉 ●o be depos●d And such ●● the discipline of the Chu●ch of God that these men and all Catho●ike ●cho●les euen in Rome it selfe as confid●nt●y disp●t th●s● q●estions for wh●●●a●se h●w and when and by Panormita● sup ca● Significa●●i Canonist in c. Si P●●● whom Popes may be d●posed a● they do● eith●r speake or write of the greatest p●iui●edges of th●t Apostolike See And Panormitanus a Canonist with others i● so confident in this businesse that they teach a Pope may be d●posed for any sinne that is scandalous to the Ch●●ch of Christ if he be inc●●rigible Fiftly the present Professor● which handle this q●●stion betweene Popes a●d P●inces doe not holde any sin●ul●r opinion tending to the indignitie or dommage of any Pr●testant Regent more than to all oth●rs in equ●ll termes b●● what is now by them main●ained was publike d●ctrine befo●e Protestancie had either pr●nce or pe●ple to e●brace ●t and at t●i● ti●e do iustifie ●he like sen●●nce c●ncerning all Catholi●e Rulers in ●q●all ballaunce of comp●●ison and ●hat openly w●thout ●●proofe in th●ir owne dom●●●ons Sixtly to giue contentment to all that will not be contentious or ●ff●ct to be singular in persec●●ing or domag●ng ●he Church of God Th●●e Authors doe not s●y that ●he 〈◊〉 power ●● simp●y and ●●●olutely subiect to the Papall and Sp●r●tuall au●hori●ie but in case of iniuries offered or great imp●diment of the spiritual good more preeminent then the t●mporall And in such c●uses euen in temporall affaires and among such powers and Princes iniuries offered and iust right denied or hindered giueth a prerogatiue to equalles iure belli among Kings and ciuill Regents to recouer their owne redeeme their wrong ●equite their iniuries where the offendor denieth to make requitall Therefore seeing this Discouerer cannot finde anie such ciuil power soueraigne ouer Kinges challenged by Popes and against which hee so much inueigheth nor any other more peculiarly intended against Protestant Princes then all others in like proceedings let him draw his weapon against those by whome he is assaulted in this kind First against the Canonists and the Legists euen in England and of the Arches except they will dissent from the more receaued opinion of like prof●ssors secondly against himselfe all Protest●nt write s. Against the first bicause which is his case in question they defend that the empror is lord of all the world insom●ch that Bartholus the great Leg●s● affirmes Ba●thol in extra●ag ad rep imen glosse per venerab Qui filii c. that peraduenture it is h●resie to te●ch the contrary 〈…〉 saith he it is against the scripture Exist ed●ctum à Caesare v● d●●●r●beretur or●is where the whole wo●ld and Princes thereof were at his designement And which the Protestants alleadge for tempor●ll Princes supremacie omnis anima potestatibus sublimiorjbus subdita sit therefore as he reasoneth all Princes be subiect to him as the highest power And in this case of Armes and death which this man so often obiecteth the cause is more daungerous in respect that in the whole papall and canon law of the Popes there is no penaltie of death against any hereticke or excommunicate neyther is such punnishement to bee inflicted by any spirituall Iudge or executioner But that kinde of reuenge or justice is only Codic haeret leg Adrian et Cod●c de Iudaeis leg Quicunque prouided by the emperiall and ciuill Constitutions and by temporall Authority and brach●um scecuiare to be put in practise Lastly lett him battaile against himselfe and his Protestant Protestants Religion of all others is the greatest e●nemy to Princes and Catholique worship the most fauourable brethren which of all people in the wo●lde that euer were or be are the most guilty in these proceedings as I will at large demonstrate hereafter and Catholikes of all most innocent For seeing all professors of Religion Israelites P●gans Catholikes Protestants and all others euer prescribed some meanes and manner to keepe both Rulers and the ruled in order of all people to whom that authority was attributed by any The Popes of Rome proportion of time and place cousidered haue beene the actors of the fewest translations of titles in Princes Not aboue foure or fiue examples can be giuen in the whole christian worlde in aboue 1500 yeares and not many excommunications from the first of ●hillip●e the first Christian Emperour as some suppose by the Eusch histor Pope of Rome or of Archad●●s by Pope Innoc n●●us the first within 400 yeares after Christ when the Prophettes and Priests of Nice●hor h●st in Arc●ad Iurie deposed more in one Kingdome and the excesse of the Paans is not to be recited And the Protestants themselues since their originall haue deposed as many or ●ore th●n all the Popes in to many yeares and that onelie for Religion when for that qua●r●ll not one Prince in the Popedome hath lost his Diademe nor any without common consent of the Christian worlde For Protestants I instance in the Prince of Geneua deposed and in the King of Spaine and the present Arche-duke in the Lowe Countries expelled from their Right the Kinge of Polonia in Sweueland at this present in litle better estate the Queene Regent in Scotland so made a subiect and his Maiesties mother deposed the Emperour denied his allowance of tribute for the Turkishe warres his Townes taken and ●ept against him the Duke of Loraine and others in the like predicament And the violent attempts which they haue vndertaken by rebellion ag●inst their Princes for this quarrell of Religion haue beene more then all excommunications of Princes by Popes for any respect what●oe●er the particulars will appeare in their proper place And whence can all these impious practises proceed with so gener●ll ap●l●●●e but from their most impious and rebellious publiqu● position you haue heard before that the proces of Popes is such in this busines that no Prince except more wicked th●n any now liuing or as vnfo●tunate as some foure or fiue in all the time of Christian●ty in the worlde neede stand in daunger Contrariewise by Protestant religion no sinner or no King Const Concil in a●● Wickcl Lu●●●● to 6. pag. 〈…〉 Luth. Cal●in in Dan. Suingl lib. 4. Philipp Nichol. fund●m Caluin Sect c. Luther denieth all obedience to Princes differing from him in Religion calling them Pilates Tyrants Herods Iudas and that his Protestants handes must be imbrued with bloud in such cases Caluin telleth that ipso facto they are bereaued If no permission of Swinglius doctrine no Prince with him and all bee Martirs that be slaine in rebellion for that quarrell The english Protestant Confer 14. 1604 pag. 47. Luther lib. capt Babyl Notes
as his Maiestie is witne● vppon the Bible doe not disalowe the killing of a Prince in such cases And this is to bee perfect Protestant disciples of their Apostle Luther who taught no lawe can be imposed vpon Christians but as they will all humane lawes must be taken away Therefore saieth Caluin Beza Test●tr ordin Burg. in Reman sup edict Reg. Gall Petr. Frar or contr Sect. Defen● Reg. Relig. Athomannus Spiphazius and the rest of that holie Sinode that Kinges Queenes their children and post●ritie l●st Kinges a●●se againe and all Magistrates must be put to death and so euery particular Protestant must be more then a Pope an Emperour or rather a god to put Princes to death at their pleasute and we must say with the Consistorian Protestants not only ●uerie priuate man may be executioner of Princes but teach that it is necess●●ie to assigne rewardes for such murtherers of Rulers wee must not call them Kings or Superiours but Tirants Monsters and not worthy of life But more of this hereafter in their generall positions and practises The rest of the penal●ies which this Author alleadgeth as belonging Catholikes denie no temporall societie o● duety to Protestants to the excommunicate and such heretickes and which he writeth that Cat●olikes doe teach are due and to be extended vpon all Protestants of England be thus recited to spoile Protestants of their goods deny t●thes to the Ministers not paying debts to Creditors seruants not d●t●full to Masters wiues not beneuolent to Hu●bands Pare●ts dis-inhe●iting Children children not obeying P●rents kinsmen to kindred and countriemen to their Countrie to be vnkinde But I haue answered before that these societies are not to be denied to the Protestants of England because we doe not est●eme them in that case of heretickes and excommunicates Secondly the world is witnes for vs and against this Obiector that we as truly and sincerely performe these communications and respects to our country protestants as they them selues and rather in more ample manner And although Tithes be due to spirituall Ministers for Sacraments and holie thinges which we doe not receaue from them yet we doe not withdrawe Concil Const in artic Wickcliff their payment to the protestant Cleargie neither say as their martir Wickliffe did that they be but almes and may be taken awaie at princes pleasures Thirdly I answere that those canonicall punishments he citeth against the censured were not of purpose ordaind against his protestancy but the decrees of such proceedings may be great-grandfather to that Religion not now in vse either in this kingdome France Heluetia Sweueland Denmarke and most part of Germany or in farther circuit And if the penal constitutions of the generall Councell of Trent representing Pope Prelates Princes and the whole church of Christ are not yet after fourty yeares continuance receaued in the recited Prouinces or Kingedomes There is not so great daunger that those Papall paines will euer giue to this man so much cause of so outragious exclamations They were long before the birth of protestancie prouided for countries and people whence heresies had not entered not where such opinions haue preeminence And if it should please his Maiestie to restore the Catholike faith in England yet there is not perill that protestants should fall to such feares of these penall constitutions to be admitted penalties are not so soone imposed their nature is to be restricted and not dilated If so many other kingdomes vnder Catholike Regents Fraunce Sweueland Bohemia Polonia Transiluania c. doe not consent to their admittance This Iland one of the last by cituation and so long at variaunce with the Roman Church is not likelie to be the first in that wherein nature desireth to be the last We haue not now an other Queene Marie Inheretrix to the Crowne to be joyned in mariadge with a potent Prince in whose Dominions they be in force simbolizing with husband conformity in countrie discipline is neuer like to breed you scruples in this behalfe And yet in such a metaphisicall case nemo laeditur nisi à seipso though you haue anowed to be an heretike and excommunicate you must be cited and admonished before censure and obstinate before and after or else your daunger is not deadlie Thus I haue proued at lardge as my violent and distressed leasure would giue me allowance that the chiefest building of all these slaunders against vs is ruinate and ou●rthrowne that we doe not esteeme all Protestants for heretickes and excommunicate as he pretendeth neither that they are subiect to such penalties as he alleadgeth that they are not censured or as such to be depriued of any ciuill societie communication their goodes liues liberties dignities honor homage fealtie subiection dutie loue or any thing pretious their proper and peculiar but contrariewise to enioy and possesse those priueledges in as ample manner and freedome as if they were of the same Religion which we defend Answer to the first Reason Now I will with breuitie answere to his particular pretended reasons grounded vpon the generall before confuted And first to his first Sillogisme or rather Sophisme the maior proposition whereof is already ouerthrowne and only requiring repetition is as followeth They who by their slaunderous doctrine make all Protestants in their common censure heretickes so odious and unworthy of any ciuill or naturall society must necessarily be adiudged seditious and intollerable among the Protestants My answere is absolute before that no learned Catholike so reputeth the Protestants or any one Protestant of this kingdome but attributeth or ought so to do by his Religion as much terrene honor homage duty and loue to our King his honorable Counsaile and all in Authority in their degrees and vnfeined affection to the rest as if they were of the same faith and profession in Religion Then the minor proposition if the same medium be kept must needs be false which is this But the Romish Seminaries and Iesuites doe brand all Protestants with detestable crimes thereby to deny them all ciuill and naturall Respects Ergo. I answer If the first part of this second proposition be vnderstood of the wickednesse of many English Protestants not only condemned of their brethren Admonit 1. 2. Parliam perit 1000. Minist Cartw. against I. W. Puritanes but by themselues confessed and their owne lawes so conuicted it proueth them for such but proueth not sedition but true and loyall dealing in Catholikes which doe not say with Protestants masters and martirs Wickliffe and Husse and their brothers Concil Con●● i● Wickl artic Io. Husse c. Waldensians that wicked men in Magistracie be deptiued of Rule and Iurisdiction but against their owne fellowes in profession defend their offices power authority and preeminence If the Discouerer will haue the force of this proposition to remaine in the later sentence thereby to denie them all ciuill and naturall Respects It is both vnproperly spoken and slaunderously obiected against Catholikes which
but conspired with the Turke himselfe both against them and the whole christian world And their successours in Hungary these last yeares no better behaued themselues these directly admitted the Turks entry the first endeuoured to performe it as their owne Caspaectalio hist Symp. ad Sabell●c Defens Stap. contr Illerich Sleid petr Frar ora● cont Sectar Sleidan l. 22. letters of conspiracy and the comming of the Bassa of Buda against Ferdinando into Pannonia were witnesses And Sleydan himselfe a German Protestant giueth testimony that this was the doctrine of their diuines of Magdenburge publikely teaching in defence of s●ch rebellions that such wa●res were lawfull For Sweueland the protestants themselues giue also testimony Sweueland Chit chron an 1593 1594. that the Catholike King thereof was inforced by his rebellious gospellers to make himselfe a subiect vnto their designements and condiscend that no Catholike should beare office in that kingdome and catholike seruice for the King should be confined only to his owne Chappell And what rebellions did the Protestant Petr. Fa● orat contr sect Nobillitie by aduise of their Cleargie raise against their Prince for this cause in former times And who is ignorant of their still continued seditions and rebellions In Denmarke the same dogmaticall opinions were both publikely defended and put in execution What insurrections and rebellions Petr. Frar sup d●d the Protestants of that kingdome maintaine by this title Did they not assault the King vnder yeares and in minority with open warres Did they not confederate and colleague themselues with the professed enemies of the kingdome sell the Cities to strangers challenge regall power to their rebellions and such like intollerable treasons Let vs come to Heluetia and especially Geneua the mother Church of the ●eformed Maister Caluine the supreame head of the Consistory there hath told vs before that Princes not agreeing Bez. l. iur magist in supqit Sutclif answ l. to suphl with him in religion are rather to be spitted vpon than obeyed they ●re not worthy to be numbred among men they are bereaued of all authority Beza his successour in place succceded him also both in opinion and practise arming subiects against their Prince And as Maister Doctor Sutliffe saith in effect ouerthrowing all authority of Christian Kings and Magistrates and giuing power to subiects not onely to take Armes but to depose and kill the Prince if he impugne their religion And accordingly in practise the Protestants there as Caluine himselfe Doctor Sutliffe Caluin Sutel sup kiru pret discipl and the Archbishop of Canterbury be witnesses deposed their Soueraigne from his temporall right and euer since continue in that state of rebellion And not content with rebellion to one and their owne Lord and Ruler they celebrated a Councell wherein it was concluded that King Francis the second then king Petr. Fra● orat contr sectar de●ens Reg. relig of France his wife the Queene his children Queene mother the Nobility and all good Magistrates of that kingdome should by a certaine day by treacherous deceits be put to death In Burgundy a like Assembly and Conuenticle was called kept and therein decreed at Cabillon that three wormes must be taken forth of the world these men were not content to make their opinion and practise to one or a few kingdomes first the Church of Rome secondly the noble families of antient houses and thirdly all ciuill pollicy gouernment and iurisdiction How faithfully the Protestant Netherlanders laboured by all seditions and rebellion so many yeares and still perseuer to haue the canon of this holy Councell obserued it is too lamentable to be repeated that subiects should maintaine it or any Christians should applaud it Let vs come to France Were not Caluine Beza Othomanus Spiphanius Claud. de sanct de Saccad eglif fol 58. 55. and such publike and dogmaticall Protestants the eggers and instruments of all those slaughters rebellions and oppressions in that Monarchie wherein they tooke all law authoritie and Petr. Frar sup execution thereof from the King and Magistrates They conspired in one night to rob all the Chu●ches in France how did they depose Magistrates fell Cities giue the spoiles to strangers c. what murthering of priests and religious men hanging cutting bowelling rending strangling fleaing drowning stabbing shooting through with gunnes and arrowes of religious Priests wearing chaines of their eares cut off about their neckes how many were buried aliue and little infants themselues cut in sunder ●nforcing men to eate their vndecent parts cut off and rosted and opening the bellies when they liued to see whether they digested them or no I cease to recount the vnspeakeable tyranny of those Protestant traytors whom no conditions peace or graunt could satisfie After the remembred conspiracy against King Francis his Genebr chron ann 1560. Mother wife children Nobles and Magistrates at Geneua in the yeare 1560. within two yeares after 1562. they raised such rebellions and ciuill warres against King Charles the ninth that as Genebrande writeth France was more endammaged by one yeares ciuill warres than in all warres past by strangers The King of Nauarre and Duke Nyuers with others were slaine the Duke of Guise treacherously murthered by Pultrotus Canickname in France for that fact suborned by Beza and the Protestant Admirall and they enforced the Kings to grant them peace and conditions but they kept neither for in the yeare 1567. they made a new rebellion and being subdued accept againe of peace but Genebr chron 1567. Geneb chro● in these ye●●es breake it againe for in the yeare 1569. they rebell and in the next yeare 1570. and yet in the yeare 1575. breake againe into rebellion And such were the miserable murthers and cala●●●ies which they brought to that distressed kingdome that i● 〈…〉 first ciuill warres and rebellions aboue 100000. were slaine as Gaspar Coligne a principall Captaine in those rebellions witnessed in an oration before the King And when Charles the ninth forbade by Edict that no such Protestant should publikely H●stor F●ucase Popelim li. 27. stat Relig. in gal Sub. Carol. 9. lib. 3 pag. 347. preach thirteene thousands of them armed assembled at such a sermon in the suburbes of Paris it selfe and their rebellious malice and disobedience did not onely extend to their liuing Kings but indured against the dead as they most rebelliously persecuted King Francis when he liued so being dead they burnt his heart in rebellious de●pight So they dealt with King Lewis the eleuenth defaced his Image dismembring euery part thereof and burned his body Concerning this vnited Kingdome of Britaine I haue spoken before sufficientlie for the confusion of all Protestants thereof for euer I will adde something and first for Scotland Was not their Gospell there planted by force and violence to Princes and by the publique Dogmaticall decrees of Caluin and Knoxe Knox hist of the church of Scotland pag. 143. 144. Holins hist Scot. anno 1546.
Parliament that all Ministers in his Dominions made contrarie to the Romane vse approued in his Territories should be Traitors the pulpits of England would not be silent to reproue it of great absurdity We ●ope therefore that the rare example of one Queene wil not ouer ballance so many your holy and wise Progenitors and all Princes of the world in this point And if one against so many hundreds coulde carrie against so manie reasons equiuolent motiue of imitation yet wee trust as you doe not inheritte by Queene Elizabeth or King Edward the sixt or King Henrie the eight whose next line and life rather suspended your Title then gaue you the Diademe of these vnited dominions but by Queene Margaret and Queene Marie of Scotland Catholike p●inces and King Henrie the seauenth of England of the same Religion with all their and your common Auncestors so you rather will inheri●te the steppes of them so many and holy in this path which left you so great a Title both to heauen and earth then followe the lone example of one woman or the father and son a child from whom no such preeminens is or can be deriued It is the honor of our King in Heauen most mightie Soueraigne for which we continew in combatte that Religion which the whole Catholique world in all generall Councelles Popes Doctors and learned men hath euer professed wherein this Nation as our Protestants acknowledge one thousand yeares since Ioh. Bal. l. de Script Angl. in August monach Will. Tetrastyl was conuerted all our Christian auncestry embraced and which all Princes in the schoole of Christ of whome your Maiestie is descended maintained in themselues and subiects That which is so generall cannot be surrendred by a small number of one kingdome It is not in the power of Man to resigne the honor of God Protestants and Puritans which haue turnes and changes for all occasions which communicate in spirituall things with so many different in profession which can subscribe and sweare to Parliament articles and yet renownce them take oth of Princes supreamacy yet speake preach and print against it communicate in Churches seruice and sacraments with them which they say be infidells and that none going to their Churches can be saued submit their faith and religion to stand or be changed as pleaseth Princes which had not any Church Chappell Prince or subiect of their religion vntill the daies of Luther and now is the same no further then in one time or Country may without great losse to themselues damage to others or new dishonour to God change as the winde serueth their spirit suggesteth or appetite desireth Such men may easily and onely condiscend to change their right and relinquish their interest being such as the Apostle thus describeth Alwaies learning and neuer attaining to the knowledge 2. Timoth. 3 v. 7 of truth Yet neuerthelesse dread Liege if it will please your Maiesty to vouchsafe vs licence to request and grace to obtaine that your owne princely sentence and censure may stand that we ought not to depart further from the Roman Church our mother Church by your iudgement than she hath departed from her selfe when shee was in her best and flourishing state And that the time of Constantine was incorrupted in religion we humbly againe offer triall before your Highnesse with equall c●nditions of Schooles agenst the most selected chosen Protestant Bishops doctors of your dominions to proue or defend any or euery substantiall article which we now professe to be agreeable vnto and not discenting the knowne publike Catholike doctrine of that mother Church in those your mentioned incorrup●ed daies of Christianity And seeing the disfauour and penalties against lay Catholikes are grounded vpon their Recusancy to be present at your protestant Seruice wee humbly beseech it may be called to memory how they haue protested in seuerall supplications one to your Maiesty before the end of the last Parliament and the other to Queene Elizabeth in the seuen and twenty yeare of her raigne to be builded onely vpon feare of offending God To which their so long and manilold disgraces losses imprisonments and sufferings are sufficient witnesse and for further triall thereof haue offered to repaire to your Protestant Churches and Seruice without further exception if the learned of your religion can and doe proue to the learned of their profession that it may be performed without offence to God which is so much in the opinion of all diuines as any christian subiects can offer in this cause In which minde as I doubt not but they still continue so I am assured that the Priests of England will giue like consent This if your Protestant Cleargy doe refuse or doe not satisfie so Christian a request we hope your Maiesty being wise learned iudicious and gratious will perceiue that the seuerity of the lawes against them for that cause is not to be put in practise These things in most humble manner we commend to your highest and mercifull consideration And so desiring of the Almighty to grant all happinesse and prosperity to your Maiesty and posterity we conclude in all dutifull subiection with that antient Father We will faithfully serue you in your Pallace we will accompanie other your subiects in the market wee will ioyne with them in the field against your enemies onely to you we leaue the Churches FINIS Fauls escaped In the Ep●ste or are tam cum Chap. 1. Rogesr Rogers Chap. 2. Haereticus Haereticis manimenta munimenta not aboue foure or fine not many the Prophets and Priests of Iuda deposed vnder the Prophets and Priests of Iuda were deposed not now and are not now Chap. 4. Philopatre Philopater which which is Chap. 5. and it was and that it was if it Chap. 6. natum nutum violatore violatorem approue reproue Chap. 9. vermia Austrae vienna Austriae Canickname a nickname 100000 1000000. Inns Irons Chap. 10. vindice iuridieé mentire mentiri naturall consciences internall consciences a semiplea a semiplene statish Protestants Scottish Protestants Caluinianum caluinianam Chap. 11. punished promised