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A78645 His Majesties answer to the XIX. propositions of both Houses of Parliament. England and Wales. Sovereign (1625-1649 : Charles I); Charles I, King of England, 1600-1649.; Colepeper, John Colepeper, Baron, d. 1660.; Falkland, Lucius Cary, Viscount, 1610?-1643. 1642 (1642) Wing C2122; Thomason E151_25; ESTC R10823 17,528 34

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a Nationall Synode which may duely examine such Ceremonies as give just cause of Offence to any We should take it into Consideration and apply Our Self to give due satisfaction therein That We were perswaded in Our Conscience that no Church could be found upon the Earth that professeth the true Religion with more purity of Doctrine then the Church of England doth nor where the Government and Discipline are joyntly more beautified and free from Superstition then as they are here established by Law which by the grace of God We will with Constancie maintain while We live in their Purity and Glory not onely against all Invasions of Popery but also from the Irreverence of those many Schismaticks and Separatists wherewith of late this Kingdom and Our City of London abounds to the great dishonour and hazard both of Church and State For the suppression of whom We required your timely and active assistance We told you in Our first Declaration printed by the advice of Our Privie Councell That for differences amongst our selves for matters indifferent in their own nature concerning Religion We should in tendernesse to any number of Our loving Subjects very willingly comply with the advice of Our Parliament that some Law might be made for the exemption of tender Consciences from punishment or prosecution for such Ceremonies and in such Cases which by the judgement of most men are held to be matters indifferent and of some to be absolutely unlawfull Provided that this ease should be attempted and pursued with that modestie temper and submission that in the mean time the Peace and quiet of the Kingdom be not disturbed the Decencie and Comelinesse of Gods Service discountenanced nor the Pious Sober Devout actions of those Reverend Persons who were the first Labourers in the blessed Reformation or of that time be scandalled and defamed And We heartily wish that others whom it concerned had been as ready as their duty bound them though they had not received it from Vs to have pursued this Caution as We were and still are willing and readie to make good every particular of that Promise Nor did We onely appear willing to joyn in so good a Work when it should be brought Vs but prest and urged you to it by Our Message of the fourteenth of February in these words And because His Majestie observes great and different troubles to arise in the hearts of His People concerning the Government and Liturgie of the Church His Majestie is willing to declare That He will refer the whole consideration to the wisdom of His Parliament which He desires them to enter into speedily that the present distractions about the same may be composed but desires not to be pressed to any single Act on His part till the whole be so digested and setled by both Houses that His Majestie may cleerly see what is fit to be left as well as what is fit to be taken away Of which We the more hoped of a good successe to the generall satisfaction of Our People because you seem in this Proposition to desire but a Reformation and not as is daily preached for as necessary in those many Conventicles which have within these nineteen moneths begun to swarm and which though their Leaders differ from you in this opinion yet appear to many as countenanced by you by not being punished by you few else by reason of the Order of the House of Commons of the 9th of September daring to do it a destruction of the present Discipline and Liturgie And We shall most cheerfully give Our best assistance for raising a sufficient maintenance for preaching Ministers in such course as shall be most for the encouragement and advancement of Piety and Learning For the Bills you mention and the Consultation you intimate knowing nothing of the particular matters of the one though We like the Titles well nor of the manner of the other but from an Informer to whom We give little credit and We wish no man did more Common fame We can say nothing till We see them For the 11th We would not have the Oath of all Privy Councellors and Judges straitned to particular Statutes of one or two particular Parliaments but extend to all Statutes of all Parliaments and the whole Law of the Land and shall willingly consent that an enquirie of all the breaches and violations of the Law may be given in charge by the Justices of the Kings Bench every Terme and by the Judges of Assize in their Circuits and Justices of Peace at the Sessions to be presented and punished according to Law For the 17th We shall ever be most ready and We are sorry it should be thought needfull to move Vs to it not onely to joyn with any particularly with the States of the united Provinces of which We have given a late proof in the Match of Our Daughter for the defence and maintenance of Protestant Religion against all designes and attempts of the Pope and his adherents but singly if need were to oppose with Our life and fortune all such Designes in all other Nations were they joyned And that for Considerations of Conscience far more then any temporall end of obtaining accesse of strength and reputation or any naturall end of restoring Our Royall Sister and her Princely Issue to their Dignities and Dominions though these be likewise much considered by Vs. For the 18th It was not Our fault that an Act was not passed to cleer the Lord Kymbolton and the five Members of the House of Commons but yours who inserted such Clauses into both the Preamble and Act perhaps perswaded to it by some who wish not that you should in any thing receive satisfaction from Vs as by passing the Preamble We must have wounded Our Honour against Our Conscience and by another Clause have admitted a Consequence from which We could never have been secured by declaring That no Member of either House upon any Accusation of Treason could have his Person seized without the Consent of that House of which he is a Member though the known Law be That Priviledge of Parliament extends not to Treason and if it did any Member the House being for a short time adjourned and so their Consent not being so had how treasonable soever his Intentions were how cleerly soever known and how suddenly soever to be executed must have fair leave given him to go on and pursue them no way how Legall soever after the passing such a Clause being left to prevent it To conclude We Conjure you and all Men to rest satisfied with the Truth of Our Professions and the Reality of Our Intentions not to ask such things as deny themselves That you Declare against Tumults and punish the Authours That you allow Vs Our Propriety in Our Towns Arms and Goods and Our Share in the Legislative Power which would be counted in Vs not onely breach of Priviledge but Tyranny and Subversion of Parliaments to deny to you And when you shall have given Vs satisfaction upon those Persons who have taken away the One and recalled those Declarations particularly that of the 26th of May and those in the point of the Militia Our just Rights wherein We will no more part with then with Our Crown lest We inable others by them to take that from Vs which would take away the other and declined the beginnings of a War against Vs under pretence of Our Intention of making One against you as We have never opposed the first part of the 13th Demand so We shall be ready to concur with you in the latter And being then confident that the Credit of those Men who desire a generall Combustion will be so weakned with you that they will not be able to do this Kingdom any more harm We shall be willing to grant Our generall Pardon with such Exceptions as shall be thought fit and shall receive much more joy in the hope of a full and constant Happinesse of Our People in the True Religion and under the Protection of the Law by a blessed Vnion between Vs and Our Parliament so much desired by Vs then in any such increase of Our Own Revenue how much soever beyond former Grants as when Our Subjects were wealthiest Our Parliament could have setled upon Vs. FINIS
His Majesties ANSWER TO THE XIX PROPOSITIONS OF BOTH HOVSES OF Parliament LONDON Printed by ROBERT BARKER Printer to the Kings most Excellent Majestie And by the Assignes of JOHN BILL 1642. His Majesties Answer To the nineteen PROPOSITIONS of both Houses of Parliament BEfore We shall give you Our Answer to your Petition and Propositions We shall tell you that We are now cleary satisfied why the Method which We traced out to you by Our Message of the 20th of Ianuary and have since so often pressed upon you as the proper way to compose the distractions of this Kingdom and render it truly happy hath been hitherto declined and is at length thought fit to be looked upon We now see plainly and desire that you and all other Our good Subjects should do so too that the Cabalists of this businesse have with great Prudence reserved themselves untill due preparations should be made for their Designe If they had unseasonably vented such Propositions as the Wisdom and Modestie of your Predecessours never thought fit to offer to any of Our Progenitours nor We in honour or regard to Our Regall authority which God hath entrusted Vs with for the good of Our People could receive without just indignation and such many of your present Propositions are their hopes would soon have been blasted and those Persons to whom Offices Honours Power and Commands were designed by such ill timing of their businesse would have failed of their expectation not without a Brand upon the attempt Therefore before any of this nature should appear they have certainly with great wisdom in the Conduct of it thought fit to remove a troublesome Rub in their way The Law To this end that they might undermine the very foundations of it a new Power hath been assumed to interpret and declare Laws without Vs by extemporary Votes without any Case judicially before either House which is in effect the same thing as to make Laws without Vs Orders and Ordinances made onely by both Houses tending to a pure arbitrary power were pressed upon the people as Laws and their obedience required to them Their next step was To erect an upstart Authoritie without Vs in whom and onely in whom the Laws of this Realm have placed that Power To command the Militia very considerable to this their Designe In further order to it they have wrested from Vs Our Magazin and town of Hull and destridde Sir John Hotham in his bold-faced Treason They have prepared and directed to the People unpresidented Invectives against Our Government thereby as much as lay in their power to weaken Our just Authority and due esteem among them They have as injuriously as presumptuously though We conceive by this time Impudence it self is ashamed of it attempted to cast upon Vs aspersions of an unheard of nature as if We had favoured a Rebellion in Our own Bowels They have likewise broached new Doctrine That We are obliged to passe all Laws that shall be offered to Us by both Houses howsoever Our own Iudgement and Conscience shall be unsatisfied with them a point of Policie as proper for their present businesse as destructive to all Our Rights of Parliament And so with strange shamelesnesse will forget a Clause in a Law still in force made in the second yeer of King H. 5. wherein both Houses of Parliament do acknowledge That it is of the Kings Regality to grant or deny such of their Petitions as pleaseth Himself They have interpreted Our necessary Guard legally assembled for the Defence of Vs and Our Childrens Persons against a Traitour in open Rebellion against Vs to be with intent to leavie War against Our Parliament the thought whereof Our very soul abhorreth thereby to render Vs odious to Our People They have so awed Our good Subjects with Pursivants long chargeable Attendance Heavie Censures and illegall Imprisonments that few of them durst offer to present their tendernesse of Our Sufferings their own just Grievances and their sense of those violations of the Law the Birthright of every Subject of this Kingdom though in an humble Petition directed to both Houses and if any did it was stifled in the Birth called Sedition and burnt by the common Hangman They have refrained the Attendance of Our ordinary and necessary Houshold-servants and seized upon those small sums of Money which Our Credit had provided to buy Vs Bread With Injunctions That none shall be suffered to be conveyed or returned to Vs to York or any of Our Peers or Servants with Vs so that in effect they have blocked Vs up in that County They have filled the ears of the People with the noise of Feares and Iealousies though taken up upon trust tales of Skippers Salt-Fleets and such like by which Alarms they might prepare them to receive such impressions as might best advance this Designe when it should be ripe And now it seemes they think We are sufficiently prepared for these bitter Pills We are in a handsome Posture to receive these humble Desires which probably are intended to make way for a Superfetation of a yet higher nature if We had not made this discovery to you for they do not tell Vs this is all In them We must observe that these Contrivers the better to advance their true ends disguised as much as they could their intents with a mixture of some things really to be approved by every honest man Others specious and popular And some which are already granted by Vs All which are cunningly twisted and mixed with those other things of their main Designe of Ambition and private interest in hope that at the first view every eye may not so cleerly discerne them in their proper colours We would not be understood That We intend to fix this Designe upon both or either House of Parliament We utterly professe against it being most confident of the Loyalty good affections and integrity of the intentions of that great Bodie and knowing well that very many of both Houses were absent and many dissented from all those particulars We complain of But We do beleeve and accordingly professe to all the world that the Malignity of this Designe as dangerous to the Lawes of this Kingdom the Peace of the same and the Liberties of all Our good Subjects as to Our Selfe and Our just Prerogative hath proceeded from the subtill Informations mischievous Practices and evill Counsels of ambitious turbulent Spirits disaffected to Gods true Religion and the Vnity of the Professors thereof Our Honour and Safety and the publike Peace and prosperity of Our people not without a strong influence upon the very actions of both Houses But how faulty soever others are We shall with Gods assistance endeavour to discharge Our duty with uprightnesse of heart And therefore since these Propositions come to Vs in the name of both Houses of Parliament We shall take a more particular notice of every of them If the 1. 2. 3. 4. 5. 9. 10. 15. 16. 19. Demands had been