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A77352 A discourse concerning Ireland and the different interests thereof, in answer to the Exon and Barnstaple petitions shewing, that if a law were enacted to prevent the exportation of woollen-manufactures from Ireland to foreign parts, what the consequences thereof would be both to England and Ireland. Brewster, Francis, Sir, d. 1704. 1698 (1698) Wing B4433; ESTC R232233 49,829 76

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them There may be several particular methods proposed for weakning that Interest and incapacitating them of being any further troublesome to England such as Banishing their Priests and Fryars taking care to have their Children or the greater part of them educated in the Principles of the Protestant Religion as the French do to have those of the Protestants in their Country brought up to Popery The prohibiting of Papists by Law to purchase any Lands or Freeholds in that Kingdom and so forth But if the Government of England would think convenient to have Parliaments more frequently call'd in Ireland than they usually have been especially in the Reign of King Charles II. who never called one from the time of the Settlement of that Country to the day of his Death which without dispute gave the Irish Papists great opportunities of growing upon us and being in a Condition of giving England such vigorous Opposition as they did in the late War whether his design in that omission was to give that People those opportunities or no I shall not determine but am confident that if Parliaments were frequently call'd there and the management of Affairs were in some measure left to their discretion there would be such prudent and effectual courses taken for suppressing the Natives of that Country as would for ever prevent their being mischievous or uneasie to England and 't is certain that there is nothing which the considering and cunning Men among them do dread more but have had in all former Reigns the Interest in the English Court to prevent it By this means of frequent Parliaments and allowing the freedom of Trade in some measure to the English of that Country it would in a few Years appear that Ireland is of greater advantage to the English than any thing they ever added to their Dominions of which the Kings of England would be very sensible by the vast Revenues that would accrue to them and this without prejudice to the Trade of England whose Commodities out-sell those of Ireland in all Foreign Markets and considering that the Traders of Ireland lie already under such Restrictions that 't is impossible they should ever injure England either in relation to its Manufactures at home or its Commerce abroad tho' there are some of that unsatiable Temper that they think whatever the poor English of Ireland do gain by their Industry and the blessing of God upon their Endeavours to be just so much lost out of their own Treasures Having said something of the Irish Natives in general I come now to their Commerce and manner of living and how far such a Law if enacted will affect them Tho' it is not to be doubted but that many more of the Ingenious sort of them are fallen into Trade in imitation of the English yet they are no farther concern'd in the Woollen Manufactures than in buying from the Protestant Tradesmen some small quantities of them for their own use and some perhaps to Transport by way of Merchandize into other Countries Nor are the Gentry or the better sort of them much addicted to the keeping of Flocks or raising Sheep for such of them as are possessed of any considerable quantities of Land especially if they be ancient Families think themselves above any business of that kind or at least never mind it but live after a careless and prodigal way pleasing themselves with a great company of Followers Servants and Tenants the last of which are in the nature of Villains to them and so that they have but a sufficient number of Sheep for their own use do not much care nor indeed understand how to propagate them Sometimes where their Women are extrordinary Housewives which is rare among 'em they make Frize and ordinary Linnen for the use of their Families this is all the Manufacture they are concern'd in and indeed is scarce worth mentioning But lest it should be imagined that the Generality of the Irish may be further concern'd in the Manufacture of that Kingdom 't will not be amiss to give an Account of their Commerce and manner of Living and there are two Degrees of them the first is a kind of People that call themselves Gentlemen and Old Proprietors and hope at one time or other to be restored to their ancient Estates and the Number of this kind of Men is very considerable for in the late War when they were by virtue of the Act of Repeal restored to their diminutive Estates there were many of them that could not claim above 12 some not above 10 and other 6 Acres of Land 50 or 60 Acres were large Fortunes among them for it was a Custom among most of the ancient Irish to make an equal dividend of whatever Lands they purchased among all their Sons which is the true reason that there are so many of those People in that Country and which next to their Priests and Fryars are the Persons that of the whole Irish Nation are most dangerous and vexatious to the English for they think themselves injured Persons being as they say unjustly dispossessed of their Estates those small Proprietors being excluded by the Act of Settlement passed in that Kingdom after the Wars of 41. They are generally careful to procure some kind of Learning for their Children whose Accomplishments are chiefly the speaking of Latin Writing tolerably well and Playing on the Harp they think themselves too much Gentlemen to put their Sons to Trades or breed them up to any thing that is Laborious which is what they never betake themselves to but sometimes walk about with their Snush-horns enquiring for News heretofore concerning the French King and his Successes against the Confederates but now I suppose their Enquiries will be concerning the Prince of Wales what kind of Spark he is like to prove and whether they may expect ever by his means to be restored to their Estates at other times they smoak Tobacco by their Fire sides or if the Weather be warm Sleep or Lowze themselves under the Hedges and spend the rest of their time after some lazy and fruitless manner but they are always in a readiness upon the least Commotion to joyn the Enemies of England and by the assistance of their Clergy do compel the poor ignorant Common-People to follow them to all the Mischiefs imaginable giving themselves the Titles of Colonels Captains and what other Officers they think convenient according to the Numbers they can assemble But it will now be convenient to give some short account of those other poor common Irish their Commerce and manner of Living They are a People of so tame and cowardly a Disposition that were they not actuated by their Gentry and Clergy and they were in never so great a Tumult did the English but appear to them with their Cudgels and Scourges only they would undoubtedly betake themselves to their several Labours and Employments which being considered it will appear how far they are concern'd in the Woollen Manufactures
which time Seventeen Kings and Two Queens governed successively in England for which Reasons they conclude that it must of necessity have cost the English Nation vast Numbers of Men and great Sums of Money to keep their Ground which they gained there from time to time and at length to bring that whole Kingdom under subjection to the Crown of England And running away with this as an undoubted Maxim and Truth they conclude That it had been much better for England that God had left Ireland out of the Book of the Creation or placed it in some distant Corner of the World But this Conclusion will fail of course when I shew the mistake of the foregoing Opinion which will be the easiest thing imaginable to do if they will allow their own Chronicles and the Writings of their most Authentic English Historians to be the Rule of our Belief concerning the manner and means of Ireland's being Conquered by England For which end I here intended to have inserted a brief Abstract of English History so far as it relates to Ireland from the Reign of King Henry II. to the Conclusion of the late War but I find this in a great measure done to my hand by one Mr. W. H. in his Book entitled Remarks on the Affairs and Trade of England and Ireland printed for Tho. Parkhurst at the Bible and Three Crowns in Cheapside near Mercers-Chappel 1691. to which I refer such as think it worth their while to be satisfied more at large And therefore I shall only desire those who think Ireland to have cost England so dear to consult the Histories which are written concerning that Kingdom by their own Authors and they will find that the first Number of Men sent over by Strongbow Earl of Chepstow and Pembroke under the Command of Fitz-Stephens and Fitz-Gerrald was but 400. which were followed soon after by Legross with 130. and in three Months after by Strongbow himself with 1200. more being in August 1170. the whole three Numbers amounting but to 1730. which was the Complement of the Army that by the Assistance of Mac Murragh King of Leinster and his Friends did not only recover that King's Dominions in Leinster but very much enlarge them and in effect made the Kings of England Lords of Ireland and all this was done at the private Expence of Strongbow and his Friends as the remaining Provinces of that Kingdom were most if not all of them subjected to the Crown of England at the Expence of particular Persons who notwithstanding were well rewarded for their Services by the grants of those vast Estates which were given them by the Kings of England and which many of their Successors enjoy to this Day 'T is true that King Henry III. in the Year 1172. landed there in Person with a Party which some say consisted of 4500. but others only of 500 Knights but had no occasion to make use of them for upon his arrival the Natives of the three Provinces of Leinster Munster and Connaught were so terrified that five of their Kings became tributary to him by which means he did not only cut off the Communication which France held with Ireland theretofore from whence they had considerable Succours whenever the English waged War against them but he had himself in four Years after a very considerable Subsidy out of that Kingdom His Successors also had frequently great Aids of Men Money and Provisions from thence which were great Assistances to the English in their several Wars against the French Scotch and Welch all which is owned by the most Authentic English Historians that have written upon this Subject And 't is certain that they make it plainly appear that the People of England from their first entrance into Ireland for 400 Years which reached to the middle of Queen Elizabeth's Reign were considerable gainers by that Kingdom and that there were greater Numbers of Men and more Money and Provisions sent from thence into England France c. in the several Kings Reigns that govern'd during those Years who were generally involved either in Civil Wars in the Heart of England or in Foreign Wars against the French Scotch or Welch than were sent out of England all that time towards the Reduction or Conquest of Ireland For tho' there were frequent Rebellions raised in Ireland before the Reign of Queen Elizabeth yet they were generally quash'd by the English of that Country and such of the Irish as adhe●ed to them with very little Cost to England till that grand Rebellion which was raised by Tyrone and others who were set on and encouraged by the Pope who by his publick Bull excommunicated Queen Elizabeth and the Kingdom of England and were assisted with Men and Money by the Spaniard For till the Pope's Supremacy was invaded and Religion reformed most of the Irish except the Grandees of them that lost their Estates by Conquest at first or by Rebellion after they had submitted to the Crown of England with their particular Friends and Adherents most of the rest I say were well enough satisfied with the English Government under which they lived much more securely and happily than they did under their own Petty Kings who were daily Killing and Robbing and using all manner of Acts of Hostility towards each other But the Pope being disobliged the Quarrel ceased to be as formerly between English and Irish on account of Civil Interest and was taken up between Protestant and Papist on account of Religion for the English Papists joyned with the Irish as did some Irish Protestants with the English on the other hand and the Papists of both kinds became Enemies to the Crown of England by the instigation of their Priests and Friars as we must expect they will ever remain while those Incendiaries are suffered to continue amongst them And the Truth of the Matter is that the antient Irish being a poor dispirited and cowardly People that is the generality of them they would in all probability run with as much dread from the English as the Spartan Slaves did from their Masters to their several Imployments when they appeared with no Arms but Whips in their Hands were they not assisted and managed by the degenerate English Papists who are the most desperate and troublesome Enemies the Protestants have in that Nation For the Proof of which we need not look further back than the late Rebellion for the Chief among the very first that began about Christmas 1688. to drive away the Protestants Cattel in the Counties of Mayo and Galway in the Province of Connaught where the Rappareeing Trade began were of antient degenerate English Families such as the Jordans Stanfords Joyces Garvys and several others whose Predecessors were antiently transplanted thither from England And as for the Army which was raised there for the late King James it could never have been brought to be any way considerable had none joyned in it but the antient Irish We know that Tyrconnel and Sarsfield
them and if I demonstrate that the English Party are like to be the only sufferers thereby I hope I shall gain my Point and that the Wisdom of England will not think convenient to do any thing that may be ruinous or prejudicial to that Interest First I shall begin with the Irish Papists as they consist of Popish English Families as well as of the ancient Natives of that Kingdom in which sense I desire to be understood all along when I mention the Irish I have already hinted how vexatious and troublesom they have been to England ever since the Reformation of Religion how vigorously they have at several times endeavour'd to cast off the English Yoak and how Bloody their Rebellions and Massacres have been And 't is certain that all such of them as have been dispossessed of their Estates especially since the beginning of Queen Elizabeths Reign were turn'd out of them by reason of their constant opposition to and uneasiness under the English Government with which 't is apparent they have believ'd their Interest to be wholly inconsistent or it cannot be imagined they would have made so many violent Efforts to extricate themselves from it I need not therefore give my self or those to whose hands these Papers shall come any further trouble by producing Arguments to prove the Dependance and Hopes of the Irish Papists to be very opposite to those of the English of that Country for if their Interests be so this must of course be allow'd And this they have in the late War evidently demonstrated to the World For when the Emperor the King of Spain and most of the other Roman Catholick Princes of Europe were in League with his Majesty of Great-Britain the Pope himself being rather a Friend than an Enemy and such of those Princes as did not assist us against France were all Neuters the Irish only with some small assistance from France maintain'd a brisk and vigorous War against us and did indeed make a stronger opposition to the Arms of England than we might imagine it were possible for them to do if we consider either the Condition in which they are now being unhorsed and disarm'd of all manner of Weapons of War or the Circumstances in which they were in any time since the Restoration of King Charles II. till the last part of his Reign when by the great Encouragements they had by the D. of York's means from the Court of England they began to seem formidable to the Protestants of Ireland So that I think I have made it evident that as they believe the Extirpation of the English out of that Country would be their greatest Interest and Advantage so they have chiefly depended upon the French and by them expected the accomplishment of that great Design Not that I will say that they have naturally a greater Affection for the French than any other Nation but because they have for some Years esteem'd the French King to be the most powerful and the most Ambitious Monarch of Europe of the Romish perswasion and consequently the most likely to attempt the Expulsion of the British out of that Country and as they fondly imagined to restore them to their pretended ancient Estates and Liberties which is the same reason that induced them to be so fond of the Spaniard in the Reign of Queen Elizabeth And notwithstanding that there have been all along the War considerable Numbers of those Irish Papists in the French service many of which remain there this very day and the Ruins of Demolished Towns and Fortresses in Ireland and the vast heaps of the Bones of Slaughtered Men which are to be seen in many parts of that Kingdom are but too Fresh and Sensible Monuments of their Villanies and cannot when we see them but make us Reflect upon their Behaviour towards us and remember how few years have passed since they were by downright Dint of Sword beaten into good Manners I say notwithstanding all these things I have been very well assured that long before the Conclusion of the Peace they have made application to the Emperor K. of Spain and other Roman Catholick Princes that they might Intercede for them to the K. of England as being poor Persecuted Catholicks because they are not left in a Posture of running into another Rebellion and Cutting of Throats at pleasure And to my certain knowledge they had September last their Agents or Plenipotentiaries as some stile them in Flanders and have the confidence to tell us that they were never so happy as under an English Government and that our present King has been gracious to them beyond expectation and so far they are in the right and speak Truth whether they believe it or no but they do also endeavour to make us believe that most of any Note among them having taken the Oath of Fidelity they are now true Friends to King William and the English Interest of Ireland and we know very well that Oaths have been ever such Sacred Tyes as they could not break through but have observ'd them as invfoiably as a certain Friend of theirs who was always Fam'd for being nicely just to his word did perform his repeated Oaths and Promises of Preserving the Church of England and Governing these Kingdoms according to the Laws then Established c. But to lay any stress upon their asseverations to this purpose is so grand a contradiction to Common Sense and Experience that reason can never admit it nor Mankind be so far Imposed upon as that they should expect the performance of any thing of this kind from them 't is altogether as reasonable to imagine that those Creatures which are called Tame Wolves when let loofe will abstain from their Prey and not fall upon the Flocks and Herds nor Foxes upon the Poultry t is as reasonable I say to believe this as that Irish Men in power will preserve and not endeavour to extirpate the Protestant Race out of that Country and for my part I shall scarce ever be convinced but that the Character is very applicable to them which Hippolitus gives his Hunts man of the Spartan Dogs Spartanos Genus est audax avidumque serae Nodo cautus propiore liga which according to my Interpretation is as follows That 't is a Turbulent ungovernable Generation greedy of Blood and never in good order but when tied up or close coupled If these be the People which the Parliament of England propose to keep in low circumstances they are very much in the right for that Generation never becomes Rich or Powerful but they grow Troublesome and Uneasie and are ready to joyn with any Popish Prince that will assist them against the English Nation who can never be too jealous or careful to prevent their being in a condition to repeat those Villanies which they have so often and so lately acted against the Protestants of that Kingdom and consequently of putting England to any further Charge or Trouble in the Reduction of