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A56148 A catalogue of such testimonies in all ages as plainly evidence bishops and presbyters to be both one, equall and the same ... with a briefe answer to the objections out of antiquity, that seeme to the contrary. Prynne, William, 1600-1669. 1641 (1641) Wing P3922; ESTC S122412 42,609 43

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e●en under Popish Kings when they had most sway have been excluded Parliaments much more then may they be so now (c) Gardner and Bonner in King Edwards dayes and all Bishops that were married as most then were in the first Parliament in Queen Maries reigne were excluded the Parliament and in King Edward the 1. his time at the Parliament held at S. Edmonds Bury Anno 1296. all the Bishops were put out of the Parliament and Kings protection and that Parliament held good and made Laws without them And Anno 1273. in the 20. yeare of Henry the 3. the Statute of Merton cap. 9. to●ching Bastardy was made by the Lords temporall and Commons without and against the consent of the Bishops ●h●se two Presiden●s are cited by Bishop Iewell in his Apology against * Harding f. 620. who there affirmes that a Parliament may be held without any Bishops to which * Mr. Crompton and Bishop Bilson likewise assent therfore I shall no l●nger debate it as being pas● all doubt concluding this point in Bishop Bilsons words a great Champion for Episcopa●y which are full and notable * Claime you Bishops that interest and prerogative that without you nothing shal be done in matters of Religion by the Laws of God or by the liberties of this Realm By the Laws of the Land have no such priviledge Parliaments have been kept by the King and his Barons THE CLERGIE WHOLLY EXCLVDED And when the Bishops were present their voyces from the Conquest to this day were never negative ●y Gods●aw you have nothing to doe with making Laws for Kingdome● Common-wealths o● may teach you may not command P●rswasion is your part compulsion is the Princes I● Princes imbrace the Truth you must obey them If they pursue Truth you must abide them By what Authority then claime you this dominion over Princes that their Laws for Religion shal be voyd unlesse you consent After which he proves at larg● that the Kings of Iudah and Israel of old with many godly Christian Kings and Emperours since have made not only Civil but ●cclesiasticall Laws without a Council or any suffrage of Bishops Much more then may they hold a Parliament without their presence as Bishop Jewel proves at lange It was a no●able Speech and true of Ludovicus Cardinall Arelatensis in the Councel of Basill (q) where he maintained the parity of Bishops and Presbyters That rich and Lordly Bishops feare the power of the Prince and to be spoyled of their temporalities neither have they free liberty to speak as is required in Councels Albeit if they were true Bishops and true Pastors of Soules they would not doubt to put their lives in venture for their Sheep nor be afraid to sh●d their blood for their Mother the Church But at this present the more is the pitty it is too rare to find a Prelate in this world which doth not prefer his temporalities before his Spiritualities with the love whereof they are so withdrawn that they study rather to please Princes then God and confesse God in corners but Princes they will openly confesse Concluding ●hat the poor are more apt to give judgement then the rich because their riches bringeth feare and their poverty causeth liberty For the poore feare not tyranny as rich men do who being given over to all kind of vanities idlenesse and sloth will rather deny Christ then lacke their accustomed pleasures Such are they whom not their flock but their revenues make Bishops Have ye not heard how they said they would consent to the Kings will and pleasure But the Inferiors are they which have had truth righteousnesse and God himselfe before their eyes and they are greatly to be commended for shewing themselves such men unto the Church of God If ●hen any desire the continuance of Lord Bishops in Church or Parliament yet it wil be necessary to strip them of their Temporalities and Lordships and to confine them to one living with Cure where they may reside and preach like other Ministers because their Temporalities will make them Temporizers and to vote amisse ag●nst God and the Republike both in Parliament and Convocation as this Cardinall truly informs us from experience To close up all in a few words I shall desire 〈◊〉 ●ordly Prelates and others to observe that Rev. 4.4.10.11 c. 5 6.11 12.14 c. 7.11 12 13 14● 15. c. 11.15 19 17 18. c. 19.4 5 6. The 24 Elders are placed next in rank to the very throne of Christ as being next to him in Authority and Iurisdiction no Archb●shops or Bishops ●●ing there named much lesse interposed between them That the Angels whom our Prelates will needs interpret ●o be Diocesan Bishops in the 2d and 3d of the Revelation though the Contents of our last ●ranslated Bibles expresly define them to be the Ministers not Bishops of the 7 Churches stand round about the Elders and are remoters from Christs throne then they●therfore not so honourable That Christ standeth in the midst of the Elders to signi●ie that ●hey are subject to no Diocesan Bishop but Christ alone and ●hat no Lord Bishops but Elders only belong to the Kingdome and Government of Christ who is never said to be in the midst of Archbishop● and Bishops none of his institution but of the 24. Elder● only That these Elders alone worship and prostrate themselves give thanks and resolve doubts upo● all occasions●not Bishops And that when the Kingdomes of this world become the Kingdome of o●● Lord and his Christ and when the Lord God omnipotent is said to raigne the Elders are still said to be about Christs throne and to adore and praise him there being no mention at all of Bishops Therfore our Prelates must needs confesse themselves to be but Elders only properly or else acknowldge that Elders by divine ●nstitution are Superiour to them in dignity● and that Archbishops and Bishops have no place at all appointed them by Christ about his throne or with●n his Church and Kingdome and therfore must needs be Antichristian and in●o●erable in our reformed Church out of which I doubt not ●re long to see them quite ejected and cast unto the Dunghill as most unsavoury Salt toward which d●sired good worke I presume this little Catalogue may con●ribute some assistance especially if thou correct these ensuing Errors of the Printer ere thou begin to read it occasioned by the Authors absence and the Printers unacquaintednesse with the Authors names the●ein recited which slips of course find easie pardon ERRATA PAg. 1. C●lum 2. line 19 read Papias● p. 2. col 1. l. 101. and 15. ● Al●xandrinus l. 25. Nazianz●num l. 30. Aerius col 2. l. 11. Primasius 22. Nazianze●● l. 25 26. Rhabanus Maurus l. 35. O●●umeniu● l. 43. for 34.1 3 4. p. 3. col r. l. 5. ●vo l. 6. Decretalium l. 2● Pla●ctu l. 29. ●anormitan l. 31. Thol●sanus l. 32. Gratianum l. 37. for Cla●isio ● Clavasi● col 2. Sit