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A64266 Truth's innocency and simplicity shining through the conversion, Gospel-ministry, labours, epistles of love, testimonies and warnings to professors and profane (with the long and patient sufferings) of that ancient and faithful minister and servant of Jesus Christ, Thomas Taylor, who finish'd his course in the year MDCLXXXI. Taylor, Thomas, 1618-1682. 1697 (1697) Wing T591; ESTC R3441 376,373 430

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to any of their proved Corruptions Then I say If we may not have Fellowship with them in their Corruptions no not so much as by consent then we must not have Fellowship with them at all for they and their Corruptions are one for saith Christ Ye are of your Father the Devil for his Works ye will do But saith Bryan Christ was a Member of this Church as he calls it of those wicked Jews because he was Circumcised and frequented the Temple and eat the Passover than which Saying of this Bryan nothing can be more False for what though Christ was Circumcised and went sometimes into the Temple and eat the Passover which had been Ordinances of God for their time and were Shadows of good Things to come What is that to prove Christ a Member of that Body whose House was left unto them desolate and who were headed by the Devil which at length put them on to murder him O fad that ever People in their love of the World should be so blind But what is Christ's conforming to the Shadows of the Law which God gave for that time and by him to be fulfilled and so ended to your requiring us to conform to you in that or those Things which God never ordained as Sprinkling of Infants and not only so but teaching for Doctrine That you make them thereby the Children of God Members of Christ and Heirs of his Kingdom and also your giving David's Psalms in Rhime and Meeter to the wicked World to sing to God's dishonour And to hear a proud Man and covetous Man who is an Idolater Preach and Pray whom God never sent yea and to maintain him in his Sins contrary to all Reason and Religion also how can we conform to you in your Corruptions of respecting Persons and of having Mens Persons in Admiration because of Advantage Contrary to the express Doctrine of the Apostle which saith James 2.1 c. Have not the Faith of our Lord Jesus Christ the Lord of Glory with respect of Persons Yea and plead for their Transgressions How can we Conform to such as under the Name of Christians do live manifestly in the Sins of the Heathen as Fornication Covetousness Idolatry Drunkenness and are Railers and Extertioners and lovers of Pleasures more than lovers of God from whom the Apostle bids us turn away 2 Tim. 3. and 1 Cor. 5 11 c. with whom he forbids us to eat and yet with such both R. B. and Bryan for all their former seeming hypocritical Zeal would now have us to Communicate yet not so much as consent to their Corruptions neither as their daubing contradicting Doctrine seems willing to have Then I say We must neither have Fellowship with them in their Worship-actions as R. B. calls them nor in their ordinary Conversation for all is Corrupt For what greater Assent or Consent can we give than by joyning with them or practising such things openly But it 's better to obey God than Man both in this and all things and as the Lord said to Jeremiah so in this case hath he said to us Let them return to thee but return not thou to them for what Fellowship hath Light with Darkness or the Temple of God with Idols And now I come a little to set before you poor People who have been deceived by such Men as this R. B. and Bryan are something of the Answer they give to the Arguments of the zealous People of old called Brownists who could not for Conscience-sake conform to their Common-Brayer c. Their Objection saith Bryan in Page 297 of his Book was this to wit That the People of England were never rightly called for in the beginning of the Queen's to wit Elizabeth 's Reign they were by her Command and Proclamation compelled to embrace the Protestant Religion and to conform to God's Worship whereas in the New Testament we have no Example of People compelled to the Service of God Christ commanding Fisher men to convert Souls by Preaching not Princes to make Disciples by Compulsion therefore the Church of Christ England he should have said for who ever denied the Church of Christ had no right Constitution But now see the wretched Answer of this Bryan to the said Objection of the old Non-conformists If we speak saith he of a Church first planted the People of such a Nation are first called by the Word before they come to be a Church But it is not so saith he of a Country where for a long time true Religion hath been professed which is our case And as to that part of the Objection That there is no such Example in the New Testament First The Magistrates were then Enemies to the Christian Religion Secondly saith he It sufficeth that we have Examples in the Old Testament 2 Kings 23.21 2 Chron. 15.13 and 33.16 and 34.33 nor have saith he Christian Princes less Power in their Dominion to abolish Idolatry and by Laws and Penalties to compel their Subjects where there is a Parity of Reason And after this Bryan having wearied himself with setting down several words to and against both what the Conformists said for and the Non-conformists said against these Things he takes breath and says he returns to sati●fie the Objection to wit The Objection before mentioned about Separation with such words as these It is not necessary and generally true saith he of all the Members of the Visible Church that they be called by the Word Answ To which I answer on behalf of Truth That it is the great Love and tender Mercy of God to our Souls that he hath delivered us from under such Men as this Bryan and R. B. are who know nothing as they ought to know but professing themselves to be wise are become most foolish and brutish in their Minds and Words by such false and Soul-destroying Doctrines as these affirming That People may be called into the visible Church without the Word and if one ask him If not by the Word by what then His answer is by Sprinkling when Infants or for fear of Man But what are these Calls into the Visible Church A strange Church must that needs be for certain where People are called into it without God's Word for certain it 's none of God's Church into which People are called without his Word It 's the visible Company of such as know not God thou shouldst have said For God's Church are the Faithful and their Faith cometh by Hearing and Hearing by the Word of God and not without it But oh the Desolation that such Doctrine as this of Bryan and R. B. hath made amongst the poor People whose Eyes are not fully opened to see their Deceits Also this Antichristian Doctrine being laid as a Foundation in their House it is no Wonder to hear this Bryan say Page 301. That Ignorant and Prophane Persons have always been in the Church and ever will be at lest till Christ comes the second Time But by all these