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A33602	The history of Wales comprehending the lives and succession of the princes of Wales, from Cadwalader the last king, to Lhewelyn the last prince of British blood with a short account of the affairs of Wales under the kings of England / written originally in British, by Caradoc of Lhancarvan ; and formerly published in English by Dr. Powel ; now newly augmented and improved by W. Wynne ...; Historie of Cambria	Caradoc, of Llancarvan, d. 1147?; Powell, David, 1552?-1598.; Wynne, W. (William), 1649 or 50-1711?	1697 (1697)	Wing C488; ESTC R12980	312,583	490

respect to his Quality and his Child maintain'd and provided for by the King To these the Archbishop added his Threats That in case they did not comply and submit themselves to the King's Mercy there were very severe and imminent Dangers hanging over their Heads a formidable Army was ready to make an inroad into their Country which would not only gaul and oppress them but in all probability totally eradicate the whole Nation Besides which they were to expect the severest Censure and Punishment of the Church But all this could not force so unlimited a Submission from the Prince but that he would stick upon some certain Conditions and therefore by Letter he acquainted the Archbishop That he was with all willingness desirous to submit himself to the King but withal that he could not do it but in such a manner as was safe and honest for him And because the Form of Submission contained in the Articles sent to him were by himself and his Council thought pernicious and illegal for him to consent to as tending rather to the Destruction than the Security of himself and his Subjects he could in no wise agree to it and in case himself should be willing the rest of his Nobility and People would never admit of it as knowing for certain the Mischief and Inconveniency that would ensue thereby Therefore he desired his Lordship that for a Confirmation of an honest and a durable Peace which he had all this while earnestly laboured for he would manage Matters circumspectly and with due regard to the following Articles For it was much more honourable for the King and far more consonant to Reason that he should hold his Lands in the Country where he was born and dwelt in than that by dispossessing of him his Estate should be bestowed upon Strangers With this was sent the general Answer of the Welch to the Archbishop's Articles viz. 1. Though the King would not consent to treat of the four Cantreds nor of the Isle of Anglesey yet unless these be comprehended in the Treaty the Prince's Council will not conclude a Peace by reason that these Cantreds have ever since the time of Camber the Son of Brutus properly and legally belonged to the Princes of Wales besides the Confirmation which the present Prince obtained by the Consent of the King and his Father at the Treaty before Cardinal Ottobonus the Pope's Legate whose Letters Patents do still appear And more the Justice of the thing it self is plainly evident that it is more reasonable for our Heirs to hold the said Cantreds for Money and other Services due to the King than that Strangers enjoy the same who will forcibly abuse and oppress the People 2. All the Tenants of the Cantreds of Wales do unanimously declare that they dare not submit themselves to the King's Pleasure by reason that he never from the beginning took care to observe either Covenant Oath or any other Grant to the Prince and his People and because his Subjects have no regard to Religion but most cruelly and unchristianly tyranize over Churches and religious Persons and then for that we do not understand our selves any way obliged thereunto seeing we be the Princes Tenants who is willing to pay the King all usual and accustomed Services 3. As to what is required that the Prince should simply commit himself to the King's Will we all declare that for the aforesaid Reasons none of us dare come neither will we permit our Prince to come to him upon those Conditions 4. That some of the English Nobility will endeavour to procure a provision of a Thousand Pounds a Year in England we would let them know that we can accept of no such Pension because it is procured for no other end than that the Prince being disinherited themselves may obtain his Lands in Wales 5. The Prince cannot in honesty resign his paternal Inheritance which has for many Ages been enjoyed by his Predecessours and accept of other Lands among the English of whose Customs and Language he is ignorant and upon that score may at length be fraudulently deprived of all by his malicious and inveterate Enemies 6. Seeing the King intends to deprive him of his antient Inheritance in Wales where the Land is more barren and untilled it is not very probable that he will bestow upon him a more fruitful and an a●able Estate in England 7. As to the Clause that the Prince should give the King a perpetual Possession of Snowden we only affirm that seeing Snowden essentially belongs to the Principality of Wales which the Prince and his Predecessors have enjoyed since Brute the Prince's Council will not permit him to renounce it and accept another Estate in England to which he has not equal Right 8. The People of Snowden declare That though the Prince should give the King possession of it they would never own and pay Submission to Strangers for in so doing they would bring upon themselves the same Misery that the People of the Four Cantreds have for a long time groaned under being most rudely handled and unjustly oppressed by the King's Officers as wofully appears by their several Grievances 9. As for David the Prince's Brother we see no reason why against his Will he should be compell'd to take a Journey to the Holy-Land which if he happens to undertake hereafter upon the account of Religion it is no cause that his Issue should be disinherited but rather encouraged Now seeing neither the Prince nor any of his Subjects upon any account whatsoever have moved and begun this War but only defended themselves their Properties Laws and Liberties from the Encroachments of other Persons and since the English for either Malice or Covetousness to obtain our Estates have unjustly occasioned all these Troubles and Broils in the Kingdom we are assured that our Defence is just and lawful and therein depend upon the Aid and Assistance of Heaven which will be most cruelly revenged upon our sacrilegious and inhumane Enemies who have left no manner of Enormities in relation to God and Man uncommitted Therefore your Grace would more justly threaten your Ecclesiastical Censures against the Authors and Abettors of such unparallell'd Villanies than the innocent Sufferers And besides we much admire that you should advise us to part with our own Estates and to live among our Enemies as if when we cannot peaceably enjoy what is our own unquestionable Right we might expect to have quiet possession of another Mans And though as you say it be hard to live in War and perpetual Danger yet much harder it is to be utterly destroyed and reduced to nothing especially when we seek but the Defence of our own Liberties from the insatiable Ambition of our Enemies And seeing your Grace has promised to fulminate Sentence against all them that either for Malice or Profit would hinder and obstruct the Peace it is evident who in this respect are Transgressors and Delinquents the fear and apprehension of Imprisonment

England both as to the Substance and Form of Worship But what may more truly be attributed to Mr. Gouge is that since his Travels into Wales and the propagating of his Doctrine among the ignorant of that Country Presbytery which before had scarce taken root has daily increased and grown to a Head Henry eldest Son of King James the First being arrived to the Age of Seventeen Years was created Prince of Wales on the 30th of May Anno 1610 but he dying of a malignant Feaver about Two Years after his Brother Charles being Fifteen Years of Age was created Prince of Wales in his room Anno 1615. For joy of this new Creation the Town of Ludlow and City of London performed very great Triumphs and the more to honour this Solemnity the King made Twenty Five Knights of the Bath all Lords or Barons Sons and the Inns of Court to express their Joy elected out of their Body Forty choice Gentlemen to perform solemn Justs and Barryers Charles eldest Son of King Charles the First by Henrietta Maria Daughter to King Henry the Fourth of France was born May 29. 1630. and afterwards created Prince of Wales Since the happy Incorporation of the Welch with the English the History of both Nations as well as the People is united and therefore I shall not repeat that which is so copiously and frequenty delivered by the English Historians but shall conclude with Dr. Heylyn That since the Welch have been incorporated with the English they have shewed themselves most loyal hearty and affectionate Subjects of the State ●ordially devoted to their King and zealous in Defence ●f their Laws Liberties and Religion as well as any ●f the best of their fellow-Fellow-Subjects APPENDIX The return of a Commission sent into Wales by King Henry the Seventh to search out the Pedigrees of Owen Tudor HENRY the Seventh King of England c. Son of Edmund Earl of Richmond Son of Owen ap Meredith and of Queen Catherine his Wife Daughter ●o Charles the Sixth King of France This Owen was Son of Meredith ap Tudor ap Gronw ap Tudor ap Gronw ap Ednyfed Fychan Baron of Brinfeingle in Denbigh Land Lord of Kric●th Chief Justice and Chief of Council to Llewelyn ap Iorwerth Drwyndwn Prince of all Wales And in the time of Prince Llewelyn grew a Variance between King John of England and the said Prince whereupon Ednyfed came with the Prince's Host and Men of War and also a number of his own People and met these English Lords in a Morning at what time these English Lords were hostied and slain and immediately brought their Heads being yet bloody to the said Prince Llewelyn The Prince seeing the same caused Ednyfed Fychan from thenceforth to bear in his Arms or Shield three bloody Heads in token of his Victory where he had born in his Arms before a Saracen's Head and so ever after this Ednyfed bore the said Arms his Son and his Son's Son unto the time of Tuder ap Gronw ap Tudor ap Gronw ap Ednyfed Fychan And after this Ednyfed wedded one Gwenllian Daughter to Rhys Prince of South Wales and had Issue by her Gronw which Ednyfed Fychan had in Wales divers goodly Houses Royally adorn'd with Turrets and Garrets some in Anglesey some other in Caernarvon-shire and and some in Denbigh-Land but his chiefest Mannor-House was in the Commot of Crythin in Caernarvon-shire which was a Royal Palace now decay'd for want of Reparations Also he builded there a Chappel in the Worship of our Lady and had License of the Pope for evermore to sing Divine Service therein for his Soul and his Ancestors and Progenitors Souls always and had Authority to give his Tythes and Offerings to his Chaplain there Vid. an serving starving which Ednyfed Fychan was Son to Kyner ap lers ap Gwgan ap Marchudd which was one of the fifteen Tribes of North-Wales and Son to Kynan ap Elfyn ap Mor ap Mynan ap Isbwis Newintyrche ap Isbwis ap Cadrod Calch Efynydd Earl of Dunstable and Lord of Northampton ap Cywyd Cindion ap Cynfelyn ap Arthuys ap Morydd ap Cynnaw ap Coel Godeboc King of Britain of whom King Henry the Seventh descended lineally by Issue-Male and is Son to the said Coel in the thirty first Degree as it is approved by old Chronicles in Wales Which Coel was Son of Tegfan ap Deheufraint ap Tud●wyl ap Urban ap Gradd ap Rhyfedel ap Rhydeirne ap Endigant ap Endeyrn ap Enid ap Endos ap Enddolaw ap Afalach ap Afflech ap Beli mawr King of Britain of whom King Henry the Seventh descendeth by Issue-Male ●nd is Son to him in forty one Degree Which Beli was Son to Monnogon King ap King ●axor ap King Pyr ap King Sawl Benissel ap Rhytherech King ap Rydion King ap Eidol King ap Arthafel King ap Seissilt King ap Owen King ap Caxho King ap Bleuddyd King ●p Meirion King ap Gwrgust King ap Elydno King ap Clydawc King ap Ithel King ap Urien King ap Andrew King ap Kereni King ap Porrex King ap Coel King ap Cadell King ap Geraint King ap Elidr King ap Morydd King ap Dan King ap Seissilt King ap Cy●elyn King ap Gwrgan King alias Farf●rwch ap Beli King ap Dyfnwal King ap Dodion King ap Enyd ap Kwrwyd ap Cyrdon ap Dyfufarth Prydain ap Aedd mawr ap Antonius ap Seisillt King ap Rhegaw Daughter and Heir of King Lyr and Wife of Henwin Prince of Cornwall This Lyr was Son of Bleuddyd ab Rhunbaladr brâs ap Lleon ap Brutus darian lâs ap Effroc Cadarn ap Mymbyr ap Madoc ap Locrine ap Brutus which inherited first this Land and after his Name was called Britain and had three Sons Locrine Kamber and Albanactus Locrine the eldest parted the Isle with his Brethren and kept half the Land for himself and called it Loegria Kamber second Son had the Land beyond Severn and named it Kambria in English Wales Albanactus had Scotland which he then called Albania after his own Name Of which Brute King Henry the Seventh is lineally descended by Issue-Male saving one Woman and is Son to Brute in five score Degrees How Owen Grandsire to King Henry the Seventh cometh of Beli mawr by Angharad Mother to Ednyfed by Issue-Female by Gittin Owen and Sir John Leiaf's Books THE Mother of Ednyfed was Angharad Daughter of Hwfa ap Cyner ap Rhywallon ap Dinged ap Tudor Trefor ap Mymbyr ap Cadfarch ap Gwrgenaw ap Gwaethiawe ap Bywyn ap Biordderch ap Gwriawn ap Gwnnan ap Gwnfiw frych ap Cadell Dehurnlluc ap Pasgan ap Rhydwf ap Rhudd Fedel frych ap Cyndeirn ap Gwrtheirn Gwrthenau called in English Vertiger by whom King Henry the Seventh by the foresaid Angharad Mother to Ednyfed Fychan and Wife to Cyner ab Iers ap Gwgon is Son to the said Vortiger in thirty Degrees Which Vortiger was Son to Rhydeyrn ap

he was ●●le to draw together not doubting the Conquest of ●●me part of Britain in case the whole should prove ●ecoverable He was the more encouraged to this ●xpedition by reason that the Advantage was like to 〈◊〉 his own and no one could challenge the Govern●ent of Britain in case Fortune should deliver it to ●●s Hands Cadwalader was gone to Rome and in all ●●obability never to return his Son Edwal Ywrch or ●●e Roe was young and under the Tuition of Alan 〈◊〉 that the event of this Expedition must of necessity ●ll to himself or by his Concession to his Son Ivor ●ho was to be chief in the Undertaking Having ●ised a considerable Army consisting chiefly of his ●wn Subjects with what remain'd of the Britains ●●at came over with King Cadwaladar he dispatch'd 〈◊〉 for Britain under the Command of his Son Ivor ●●d his Nephew Ynyr They safely landed in the Western Parts of Britain which put the Saxons in●● so great a Fright that immediately they drew up ●●l their Power to oppose them and to hinder their ●rogress into the Country The Britains tho some●hat fatigued with their Voyage however gave ●hem Battel and after a very great slaughter of the ●axons possessed themselves of the Countries of ●ornwal Devon and Somersetshires This proved a ●ortunate beginning for the Britains and gave them ●reat hopes of farther Success in the recovery of their Country but that could not be expected witho●● great Opposition and several hot Engagements w●●● the Saxons This they were immediately made se●sible of for they had scarce time to breath and to ●●cover their Spirits after the last Battel but Kentwi●● King of the West-Saxons marched against them wi●● a powerful Army consisting of Saxons and Angl●● The Britains resolved to fight them but whilst bo●● Armies were in view of each other they though● more adviseable to cease from any Hostility and 〈◊〉 enter into Articles of Composition Ivor seem already satisfied with his Conquest and willin●●● agreed to marry Ethelberga Kentwyn's Cousin a●● peaceably to enjoy for his life so much as he was a●ready in possession of This he faithfully observed ●●ring the Reign of Kentwyn and his Nephew Cad●● who after two Years resign'd the Kingdom of 〈◊〉 West-Saxons to his Cousin Ivor And now Ivor w●●● become unexpectedly powerful being King as w●●● of the Saxons as Britains that inhabited the W●stern parts of the Island He was now able to ●●dertake somewhat considerable and therefore beg●● to fall foul upon his Neighbours the Kings of K●●● the West-Saxons and Mercia whom he vanquish●● in several Battels But being at length tir'd with t●● Weight of Government he went to Rome after t●● Example of Cadwalader and resign'd the Rule of 〈◊〉 Saxons to his Cosin Adelred leaving the Britains 〈◊〉 the care of Roderick Molwynoc the Son of Edwal Yw●● This Ivor founded the Abby of Glastenbury call●● in the British Tongue Ynys Avalon where there 〈◊〉 been a Christian Church for several Years before a●● the first that was ever erected in Britain For Jos●●● of Arimathea being sent by Philip the Apostle in t●● days of Arviragus An. Chr. 53. to preach the Gos●●● in Britain seated himself here and built a Chu●●● for the British Christians This Church afterwa●●● Ivor converted into an Abby which he endow●● with very large Possessions being famous for t●● Burying-place of Joseph of Arimathea and Ki●● Arthur He bestowed also some Lands upon t●● Church of Winchester But there happen'd several Casualties in his time Bryth● a Subject to Egfride King of Northumberland ●assed over to Ireland and wasted and destroyed a great part of that Kingdom In the Fourth Year of ●is Reign their happen'd a remarkable Earthquake ●n the Isle of Man which much disturbed and an●oyed the Inhabitants and the year following it rain'd Blood both in Britain and in Ireland This occasion'd the Butter and Milk to resemble the colour of Blood ●nd two Years after the Moon also appear'd all bloody These Accidents of Nature might probably presage ●ome Tumults and Disturbances in the Kingdom which were very great in his time For he was almost in perpetual Hostility with the Kings of Kent West-Sex and Mercia which occasion'd great Blood-●hed and Slaughter in Britain His Journey to Rome ●ut an end to all these Commotions from whence he ●ever did return but ended his Days there in the practice of Piety and Religion Roderick Molwynoc THE Government of the Britains Ivor resign'd A.D. 720 to Roderick Molwinoc the Son of Edwal Ywrch who began his Reign An. 720. But Adelred King of the West-Saxons was displeased that Ivor had not bestowed upon him his whole Kingdom and upon that account he is resolved to trouble and plague Roderick and his Britains He rais'd immediately a powerfull Army and with all his Forces marched to Devonshire which he destroyed with Fire and Sword From whence he proceeds to Cornwal intending to make that Country sensible of the same Misery but he came far short of his Expectation for upon his entrance into the Country the Britains opposed him and gave him Battel where he was vanquished and forced to retire with all speed to his own Dominions This Victory the Britains called Gwaeth Heilyn from th● A.D. 721 place where this Battel was fought The Year following the Britains again obtained two notable Victories over the Saxons the one at a place called Ga●● Maclawch in North-Wales the other at Pencoct in South-Wales But the Joy and Satisfaction which the Br●tains entertained of these Successes was somewh●● abated by the Death of Belin the Son of Elphin 〈◊〉 Man of noble Birth and great Worth among the● About the same time Celredus King of Mercia die● and was succeeded by Ethelbaldus who being ve●●desirous to annex that fertile and pleasant Countr● lying between the Rivers Severn and Wye to h●● Kingdom of Mercia entred Wales with a puissa●● Army He destroyed and ravaged the Country b●fore him to Carno a Mountain lying not far fro● Abergavenny where he was met with by the Britain● between whom a bloody and sore Battel was foug●● in the Year 728. but the Victory proved very dub●table A.D. 733 Not long after dyed Venerable Bede who was ●ducated and brought up in the Abby of Wyrnetham 〈◊〉 Iarewe a Man of great Learning and extensi●● Knowledg who wrote several Books one of whic● entitled The Ecclesiastical History of the English N●tion he dedicated to Cleolwolfe King of Northumbe●land The same time Adeired King of the West-S●xons and Ethelbald King of Mercia united their Fo●ces and joyntly marched to fight against the Brita●●● The Welch were now put to very hard Streights an● forced to oppose the numerous Armies of two powe●ful Kings However fight they must or suffer th●● Country to be miserably over-run by their inveter●● Enemies Both Armies being engaged a very di●mal Battel ensued thereupon and a very great slaughter happen'd on both sides but the Saxons prevailing by the number of their

Forces obtained a very bloody Victory over the powerless Britains B●● Adelred who was shortly follow'd by Edwyn King 〈◊〉 the Picts did not long survive this Battel and Cud●● took upon him the Government of the West-Saxons The Welch found themselves unable to cope with the Saxons and too weak to repress their endless Incursions 3. therefore they apply themselves to Cudred and joyned in league with him who upon some occasion or other was actually fallen out with Ethelbald King of Mercia But Ethelbald was so proud with the success A.D. 746 of the last Engagement that notwithstanding the League with Cudred he must needs again fall upon the Welch He advanced as far as Hereford where the Britains by the help of Cudred gave him a signal Overthrow and caused him to repent of his rash and precipitous Expedition But shortly after Cudred and Ethelbald were unluckily reconciled and made Friends together and Cudred relinquishing the Welch joyned his Forces to Ethelbalds Hereupon ensued another Battel in which the Welch being greatly overpower'd were vanquish'd by the Saxons after which Victory Cudred shortly dyed To him succeeded Sigebert a A.D. 743 Man of a loose and vicious inclination who for his ill Behaviour in the Management of his Kingdom was in a short time expell'd and depriv'd by his Nobility ●nd at last miserably slain by a rascally Swineherd After him Kenulph was chosen King of the West Saxons Ann. 750. in whose time dyed Theodore the Son of A.D. 750 B●lin a Man of great Esteem and Reputation among the Britains And about the same time a remarkable Bar●el was fought between the Britains and the Picts ●t a place call'd Magedawc in which the Picts were ●ut to a total rout and Dalargan their King casually ●lain But the Britains did not succeed so well against the Saxons for Roderic Molwynoc was at length forced to forsake the Western Countries of Britain and ●o claim his own Inheritance in North Wales The Sons of Bletius or Bledericus Prince of Cornwal and Devonshire who was one of them that vanquished Adelred and Ethelbert at Bangor on the River Dee had enjoyed the Government of North Wales ever since Cadfan was chose King of Britain Roderic therefore demanded the Government of this Country as his ●ight which he was now willing to accept of seeing ●he was forced to quit what he had hitherto possessed But he did long enjoy it but dyed in a short time leaving behind him two Sons Conan Tindaythwy and Howel after that he had in all reigned over the Britains Thirty Years Conan Tindaythwy A.D. 755 ROderic Molwynoc being dead his Son Conan Tindaythwy took upon him the Government and Principality of Wales in the Year 755. He was scarce settled in his Throne but the Saxons began to make in-Roads into his Country to spoil and destroy what they conveniently could meet with They were animated hereto by the bad Success of Roderic and having forced the Britains out of Cornwal and Devonshire they thought it practicable to drive them out of Wales too and so to reduce the Possession of the whole Island to themselves This was their Aim and this they endeavour'd to put in execution but they were met with at Hereford where a severe Battel was fought between them and the Welch in which Dyfnwal the Son of Theodor a stout and valiant Soldier was slain And shortly afterwards dyed Athelbe●● King of Northumberland and was succeeded by O●wald About the same time happened a religious Quarre● between the Britains and Saxons concerning the observation of the Feast of Easter which Elbodius 〈◊〉 learned and a pious Man endeavoured to rectifie 〈◊〉 Wales and to reduce it to the Roman Calculation which the Saxons always observed The Britains di● differ from the Church of Rome in the celebration o● this Feast and the difference was this The Church of Rome according to the order of the Council of Nic● always observed Easter-day the next Sunday after th● 14th day of the Moon so that it never happen'● upon the 14th day it self nor passed the 21th Th● Britains on the other hand celebrated their Easter upon the 14th and so forward to the 20th which occasioned this Difference that the Sunday observed as Easter-day by the Britains was but Palm-Sunday with the Saxons Upon this account the Saxons did most uncharitably traduce the Britains and would scarcely allow them the Name and Title of Christians Hereupon about the Year 660. a great Contest happen'd managed on the one part by Colman and Hylda who defended the Rites and Celebration of the Britains and Gilbert and Wilfride on the part of the Saxons Hylda was the Neece of Edwine King of Northumberland educated by Pauline and Aedan She publickly opposed Wilfride and other superstitious Monks as to such Trifles and Bigotry in Religion alledging out of Polycrates the Fact of Irenaeus who withstood Victor Bishop of Rome upon the same account and the custom of the Churches of Asia observed by S. John the Evangelist Philip the Apostle Polycarpus and Melito and likewise observed in Britain by Joseph of Arimathea who first preached the Gospel here Offa was made King of Mercia and Brichtrich of A.D. 763 the West-Saxons about which time dyed Fermael the Son of Edwal and Cemoyd King of the Picts The Saxons did daily encroach upon the Lands and Territories of the Welch beyond the River Severn but more especially towards the South part of the Country These Enchroachments the Welch could not endure and therefore were resolved to recover their own and to drive the Saxons out of their Country The Britains of South-Wales as receiving the greatest A.D. 776 Injury and Disadvantage from the Saxons presently took up Arms and entered into the Country of Mercia which they ravag'd and destroyed with Fire and Sword And shortly after all the Welch joyned their Forces together fell upon the Saxons and forced them to retire beyond the Severn and then returned home with a very considerable Spoil of English Cattel The Welch finding the Advantage of this last Incursion and how that by these means they gauled and vexed the Saxons frequently practised the same and entering their Countrey by stealth they killed and destroyed all before them and driving their Cattel beyond the River ravaged and laid waste the whole Countrey Offa King of Mercia not being able to endure these daily Incursions and Depredations of the Welch entered into a League with the rest of the Saxon Kings to bend their whole Force against the Welch who having raised a very strong and numerous Army passed the Severn into Wales The Welch being far too weak to oppose and encounter so great an Army quitted the even and plain Countrey lying upon the Banks of Severn and Wye and retired to the Mountains and Rocks where they knew they could be most safe from the inveterate and revengeful Arms of the Saxons But as soon as the Saxons decamped being not able to effect any thing against them in these strong and