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A reply to the Answer (printed by His Majesties command at Oxford) to a printed booke intituled Observations upon some of His Maiesties late answers and expresses by J.M.
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J. M.; Milton, John, 1608-1674.
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future_a thus_o abuse_v his_o judgement_n and_o discretion_n lâ—…t_v i_o give_v he_o this_o caution_n when_o his_o heart_n shall_v suggest_v any_o ill_a of_o so_o great_a and_o reverend_a a_o counsel_n who_o action_n ought_v to_o awe_v he_o to_o a_o good_a conceit_n of_o they_o to_o consider_v well_o the_o ground_n and_o reason_n of_o his_o mistrust_n and_o when_o he_o have_v do_v this_o ponder_v on_o the_o great_a disproportion_n and_o inequality_n that_o there_o be_v betwixt_o so_o great_a a_o power_n and_o himself_o and_o this_o will_n either_o engage_v he_o to_o a_o better_a belief_n or_o force_v he_o to_o silence_n and_o let_v thâ—…_z people_n take_v this_o caveat_n that_o the_o subtle_a prâ—…ssing_n and_o urge_v of_o the_o ill_a example_n of_o other_o man_n ought_v not_o though_o it_o be_v most_o malicious_o endeavour_v to_o persuade_v we_o to_o a_o belief_n of_o the_o like_a corruption_n in_o the_o parliament_n the_o thing_n take_v from_o the_o king_n at_o hull_n be_v arm_n which_o be_v of_o more_o danger_n than_o other_o kind_n obs._n of_o chattel_n by_o the_o same_o law_n all_o that_o part_n of_o the_o kingdom_n which_o be_v not_o confide_v in_o may_v be_v disarm_v ans._n good_a reason_n too_o if_o in_o a_o public_a 〈◊〉_d they_o shall_v appear_v in_o opposition_n to_o they_o who_o rep._n endeavour_v nothing_o but_o the_o public_a safety_n and_o preservation_n nay_o why_o may_v not_o their_o money_n be_v take_v too_o upon_o probable_a fear_n they_o may_v buy_v arm_n with_o it_o if_o that_o probability_n can_v be_v evidence_v by_o a_o sufficient_a proof_n i_o see_v no_o reason_n any_o man_n shall_v be_v permit_v to_o buy_v a_o sword_n to_o help_v to_o cut_v his_o own_o throat_n nay_o more_o to_o hasten_v the_o ruin_n of_o the_o commonwealth_n the_o subjâ—…ct_n be_v in_o a_o miserable_a condition_n that_o be_v liable_a to_o be_v undo_v as_o often_o as_o they_o please_v to_o be_v fearful_a we_o shall_v be_v in_o a_o far_o worse_a condition_n if_o we_o shall_v not_o fear_v when_o we_o have_v just_a cause_n and_o prevent_v the_o lose_n of_o the_o whole_a by_o a_o wise_a part_n with_o some_o small_a and_o inconsiderate_a portion_n let_v brainford_n evidence_n this_o truth_n ay_o but_o he_o say_v it_o be_v so_o far_o from_o excuse_v it_o aggravate_v the_o fact_n to_o take_v away_o the_o king_n arm_n that_o be_v the_o mean_n whereby_o he_o may_v seize_v whatever_o else_o belong_v unto_o his_o majesty_n it_o do_v much_o extenuate_v the_o fact_n to_o seize_v those_o thing_n which_o will_v be_v more_o immediate_a agent_n or_o instrument_n in_o his_o majesty_n and_o the_o public_a ruin_n i_o but_o then_o again_o he_o say_v that_o the_o law_n of_o the_o land_n have_v only_o entrust_v the_o prince_n with_o arm_n so_o that_o the_o subject_n ought_v not_o to_o he_o array_v train_v and_o muster_v but_o by_o his_o commission_n he_o say_v very_o much_o and_o of_o great_a consequence_n have_v it_o be_v at_o another_o time_n but_o as_o circumstance_n may_v vary_v a_o case_n so_o i_o hope_v the_o author_n will_v learn_v to_o distinguish_v betwixt_o a_o case_n in_o neceâ—…ity_n and_o one_o out_o of_o necessity_n between_o the_o king_n adhere_v to_o the_o advice_n of_o his_o great_a counsel_n the_o parliament_n and_o his_o desert_n of_o they_o and_o between_o the_o due_a execution_n of_o his_o trust_n and_o the_o breach_n of_o it_o these_o lay_v together_o will_v much_o vary_v the_o case_n and_o justify_v the_o parliament_n in_o their_o array_n train_n and_o muster_n without_o his_o majesty_n commission_n but_o some_o determination_n must_v be_v supreme_a and_o therefore_o either_o the_o king_n power_n and_o trust_n must_v obs._n be_v guide_v by_o the_o direction_n of_o the_o parliament_n or_o else_o the_o parliament_n and_o all_o other_o court_n must_v be_v overrule_v by_o the_o king_n mere_a direction_n no_o necessity_n of_o either_o for_o in_o case_n of_o this_o nature_n which_o be_v confess_v to_o be_v extraordinary_a if_o the_o king_n and_o parliament_n dissent_v thing_n must_v be_v at_o a_o stand_n and_o the_o subject_n must_v be_v obedient_a to_o the_o ordinary_a ans._n law_n our_o author_n doubâ—…lesse_o have_v a_o strong_a minerva_n that_o can_v make_v so_o subtle_a a_o decision_n of_o a_o matter_n rep._n of_o so_o great_a controveâ—…sie_n but_o i_o believe_v this_o concept_n be_v as_o soon_o pen_v as_o it_o be_v think_v on_o for_o what_o be_v this_o but_o in_o plain_a term_n to_o tell_v the_o parliament_n hat_n they_o may_v aswell_o have_v save_v their_o labour_n and_o that_o if_o a_o king_n seduce_v by_o evil_a counsel_n shall_v endeavour_v the_o destruction_n of_o the_o public_a yet_o it_o lie_v not_o in_o the_o power_n of_o the_o parliament_n any_o way_n to_o oppose_v or_o prevent_v it_o a_o sad_a conclusion_n if_o it_o will_v hold_v but_o then_o his_o majesty_n maintain_v of_o his_o negative_a power_n put_v this_o case_n whether_o if_o the_o papist_n in_o ireland_n in_o truth_n be_v or_o by_o act_n or_o accident_n have_v make_v themselves_o the_o major_a part_n of_o both_o house_n of_o parliament_n there_o and_o have_v pretend_v the_o trust_n which_o the_o parliament_n here_o do_v from_o the_o kingdom_n of_o ireland_n and_o thereupon_o have_v vote_v their_o religion_n and_o liberty_n to_o â—…e_v in_o danger_n of_o extirpation_n from_o a_o malignant_a party_n of_o protestant_n and_o puritan_n and_o therefore_o that_o they_o shall_v put_v themselves_o into_o a_o possure_n of_o defence_n that_o the_o 〈◊〉_d and_o 〈◊〉_d of_o that_o kingdom_n be_v to_o be_v put_v into_o the_o hand_n of_o such_o person_n as_o they_o can_v confide_v in_o etc._n etc._n wheâ—…her_o he_o be_v bind_v to_o consent_v to_o all_o such_o alteration_n as_o these_o man_n shall_v propose_v to_o he_o and_o resolve_v to_o be_v for_o the_o public_a good_a i_o shall_v not_o need_v to_o prove_v the_o unlikely_a hood_n of_o their_o accomplish_v their_o desire_a end_n nor_o go_v about_o maintain_v with_o the_o observator_fw-la that_o there_o be_v as_o true_a and_o intimate_v a_o union_n betwixt_o england_n and_o ireland_n as_o betwixt_o england_n and_o wales_n neither_o do_v i_o think_v if_o it_o be_v so_o that_o the_o two_o parliament_n will_v joynâ—…_n for_o transact_v and_o conclude_v upon_o matter_n for_o both_o state_n but_o to_o the_o question_n i_o shall_v give_v this_o short_a answer_n that_o i_o do_v not_o conceive_v the_o king_n in_o such_o case_n bind_v to_o consent_n to_o their_o proposal_n for_o i_o never_o do_v nor_o shall_v allow_v where_o their_o conclusion_n and_o requâ—…sts_n be_v evident_o against_o lâ—…w_n reason_n or_o religion_n if_o that_o may_v bâ—…_n presume_v of_o a_o parliament_n that_o in_o such_o case_n the_o kiâ—…g_n be_v bind_v to_o yeâ—…ld_v to_o their_o vote_n no_o far_o be_v it_o from_o any_o one_o thus_o to_o judge_v for_o that_o be_v to_o make_v he_o a_o â—…yrant_n though_o against_o his_o will_n and_o to_o be_v engage_v in_o his_o people_n ruin_n against_o his_o conscience_n but_o now_o what_o use_n or_o advantage_n can_v be_v make_v of_o this_o against_o the_o casâ—…_n in_o question_n â—…he_a parliament_n proposal_n be_v not_o apparent_o either_o against_o law_n reason_n or_o religion_n doâ—…h_v nonplus_n my_o understanding_n to_o imagine_v a_o faction_n be_v say_v to_o have_v prevail_v upon_o a_o major_a part_n by_o cunning_a â—…orce_n absence_n or_o accident_n the_o oâ—…s_n observator_fw-la argue_v thus_o against_o it_o if_o by_o cunning_a we_o must_v suppose_v the_o king_n party_n in_o parliament_n have_v lose_v all_o their_o law_n policy_n and_o 〈◊〉_d the_o reason_n why_o they_o be_v overbear_v may_v be_v this_o not_o because_o they_o have_v less_o law_n but_o more_o hoâ—…sty_a aâ—…s_n which_o will_v not_o permit_v they_o to_o maintain_v a_o good_a cause_n by_o ill_a mean_n no_o the_o reason_n be_v evident_o this_o that_o they_o have_v liâ—…le_a law_n and_o 〈◊〉_d honesty_n which_o wiâ—…hholds_v rep._n they_o from_o promote_a the_o public_a safâ—…ty_n ay_o but_o how_o fall_v it_o out_o that_o after_o so_o many_o reiterate_a scandal_n of_o pretence_n and_o deceive_n of_o the_o people_n the_o author_n shall_v now_o confess_v that_o the_o cause_n be_v good_a only_o he_o add_v that_o there_o be_v a_o ill_a prosecute_n of_o it_o which_o he_o ought_v to_o prove_v if_o he_o expect_v we_o shall_v believe_v he_o certain_o he_o do_v not_o read_v what_o he_o have_v writâ—…en_v or_o not_o understand_v it_o or_o there_o be_v some_o hope_n now_o at_o the_o last_o after_o the_o vent_n of_o his_o spleâ—…ne_n that_o he_o will_v prove_v a_o convert_n but_o i_o despair_n of_o convince_a he_o by_o better_a reason_n for_o he_o be_v here_o in_o his_o very_a next_o word_n fall_v into_o a_o contradiction_n where_o he_o saâ—…es_v that_o we_o all_o know_v in_o how_o great_a stead_n these_o piae_fw-la
sovereignty_n as_o â—…hey_n please_v it_o be_v strange_a that_o our_o author_n will_v pass_v his_o judgement_n especial_o so_o severe_a a_o one_o upon_o any_o thing_n that_o he_o do_v not_o understand_v because_o happy_o it_o may_v conclude_v thus_o much_o that_o his_o sacred_a person_n and_o his_o action_n ought_v to_o be_v direct_v and_o rule_v by_o his_o great_a council_n the_o parâ—…_n 〈◊〉_d it_o therefore_o thence_o be_v deduce_v that_o they_o may_v dispose_v of_o his_o sovereignty_n at_o pleasure_n this_o be_v the_o author_n meaning_n not_o we_o if_o the_o king_n 〈◊〉_d such_o high_a 〈◊〉_d as_o subject_n it_o be_v not_o lawful_a or_o natural_a for_o he_o to_o expoâ—…e_v obs._n his_o 〈◊〉_d and_o 〈◊〉_d for_o his_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d be_v it_o 〈◊〉_d for_o subject_n then_o to_o do_v so_o ans._n what_o a_o strange_a 〈◊〉_d be_v this_o be_v it_o not_o lawful_a for_o a_o man_n by_o the_o hazard_n of_o his_o person_n 〈◊〉_d to_o defenâ—…_n his_o properâ—…y_n which_o can_v be_v maintain_v without_o the_o defence_n of_o his_o country_n but_o this_o do_v no_o way_n prove_v that_o if_o the_o king_n right_o be_v as_o absolute_a as_o the_o subject_n that_o he_o may_v expose_v hâ—…s_a life_n and_o forâ—…une_n for_o their_o defence_n for_o no_o doubt_n he_o that_o lose_v his_o life_n when_o he_o may_v have_v save_v it_o be_v a_o man_n slayer_n and_o if_o the_o people_n have_v be_v make_v for_o the_o king_n not_o the_o king_n for_o the_o people_n what_o law_n can_v have_v warrant_v the_o hazard_n of_o his_o person_n â—…or_fw-la 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d but_o to_o disprove_v this_o conclusion_n he_o say_v that_o the_o people_n have_v as_o great_a 〈◊〉_d gâ—…eater_a 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d of_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d â—…or_fw-mi the_o king_n and_o this_o he_o make_v good_a 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d of_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d at_o the_o 〈◊〉_d which_o 〈◊〉_d that_o i_o become_v your_o leâ—…ge_n of_o life_n 〈◊〉_d gâ—…ds_n etc._n etc._n as_o 〈◊〉_d by_o â—…he_a proâ—…station_n and_o 〈◊〉_d of_o legiance_n which_o be_v to_o the_o same_o effect_n he_o be_v no_o true_a subject_n that_o will_v not_o expose_v 〈◊〉_d and_o all_o that_o he_o have_v for_o the_o preservation_n of_o his_o king_n anâ—…_n soveraâ—…e_n we_o shall_v ever_o acknowledge_v that_o strong_a tie_n and_o obligation_n that_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d we_o to_o do_v it_o but_o yet_o we_o must_v 〈◊〉_d that_o the_o king_n oath_n and_o the_o law_n of_o the_o land_n which_o engage_v the_o king_n to_o protect_v and_o defend_v his_o kingdom_n and_o people_n be_v equalâ—…_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d that_o the_o observator_fw-la have_v show_v the_o efficâ—…ent_a cause_n of_o parliament_n to_o wit_n the_o people_n anâ—…_n he_o final_a cause_n safety_n and_o liberty_n he_o descend_v to_o this_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d he_o 〈◊〉_d be_v aim_v at_o in_o parliament_n not_o to_o be_v attain_v to_o by_o oâ—…_n obs._n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d the_o 〈◊〉_d est_fw-la of_o the_o people_n may_v be_v satisfy_v â—…nd_v king_n better_o counsel_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d certain_o many_o kingdom_n have_v enjoy_v a_o most_o high_a deâ—…_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d a_o 〈◊〉_d monarch_n who_o know_v no_o parliament_n thâ—…s_n possible_o may_v be_v 〈◊〉_d but_o i_o â—…ope_v it_o shall_v not_o 〈◊〉_d into_o the_o heart_n of_o english_a râ—…p_n subject_n any_o whit_n the_o great_a affection_n to_o that_o kind_n of_o 〈◊〉_d i_o believe_v indeed_o that_o this_o be_v that_o the_o author_n will_v fain_o persuade_v we_o to_o these_o be_v the_o main_a ground_n of_o the_o sad_a division_n our_o religion_n and_o our_o parliament_n god_n enable_v we_o to_o maintaiâ—…_n both_o for_o if_o we_o part_v with_o either_o we_o shake_v hand_n and_o bid_v adieu_o to_o all_o happiness_n the_o author_n say_v that_o two_o â—…her_n 〈◊〉_d may_v have_v be_v name_v as_o assentiall_a as_o the_o former_a which_o be_v to_o supply_v his_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d by_o subsidy_n and_o assent_v to_o the_o abrogation_n of_o old_a law_n and_o enact_v new_a the_o latter_a i_o 〈◊〉_d agree_v to_o be_v so_o but_o i_o never_o hear_v before_o that_o the_o supply_n of_o his_o majesty_n want_n by_o subsidy_n be_v one_o of_o the_o essential_a end_n of_o the_o call_n of_o parliament_n it_o be_v account_v former_o the_o maiâ—…_n end_n of_o call_v of_o a_o parliament_n the_o ease_n or_o relief_n of_o the_o subject_a and_o the_o grant_n of_o subsidy_n be_v then_o esteem_v but_o as_o a_o congratulation_n or_o thankful_a acknowledgement_n of_o the_o king_n grace_n and_o favour_n towards_o they_o in_o that_o parliament_n and_o be_v it_o now_o become_v one_o of_o the_o main_a end_n i_o suppose_v the_o author_n speak_v out_o of_o a_o late_a experience_n it_o be_v never_o happy_a with_o england_n since_o this_o law_n be_v broach_v and_o wheresoever_o king_n advance_v their_o own_o profit_n or_o but_o make_v it_o â—…quall_a with_o that_o of_o the_o public_a the_o people_n will_v never_o enjoy_v true_a happiness_n in_o the_o sum_n of_o edward_n 1._o â—…laus_fw-la 7._o in_o 3._o door_n we_o see_v the_o first_o end_n of_o parliament_n express_v obser._n for_o he_o insert_v in_o the_o write_v that_o whatsoeveâ—…_n affair_n be_v 〈◊〉_d public_a concernment_n aught_o to_o receive_v public_a approbation_n quod_fw-la own_fw-la tangit_fw-la 〈◊〉_d omnibus_fw-la appâ—…obari_fw-la debet_fw-la et_fw-la tractari_fw-la the_o author_n tell_v we_o that_o this_o must_v be_v understand_v with_o due_a caution_n lest_o we_o reduce_v ourselves_o to_o our_o primirive_a estate_n by_o dissolve_v the_o bond_n of_o government_n and_o therefore_o say_v he_o the_o policy_n of_o all_o estâ—…tes_n for_o the_o avoydiâ—…g_n of_o all_o confusion_n have_v be_v to_o leave_v the_o transaction_n of_o public_a affair_n to_o some_o certain_a number_n and_o their_o suffrage_n do_v in_o law_n bind_v the_o rest_n so_o say_v he_o in_o absolute_a monarchy_n what_o prince_n do_v be_v legal_o the_o act_n of_o all_o and_o he_o make_v the_o result_n of_o all_o to_o be_v this_o those_o thing_n which_o the_o law_n do_v require_v shall_v be_v transact_v only_o by_o parliament_n the_o people_n aâ—…s_n do_v handle_v and_o approve_v of_o by_o their_o knight_n and_o â—…rgesses_n those_o thing_n which_o the_o law_n have_v entrust_v the_o king_n with_o many_o of_o which_o concern_v the_o good_a of_o the_o whoâ—…_n what_o bee_n do_v be_v their_o act_n i_o shall_v not_o with_o our_o author_n dare_v to_o confine_v parliament_n who_o power_n be_v vast_a and_o incognit_fw-la as_o my_o lord_n cook_n speak_v and_o yet_o i_o shall_v not_o ascribe_v so_o unlimited_a a_o power_n unto_o they_o as_o to_o 〈◊〉_d give_v they_o juâ—…isdiction_n in_o all_o case_n they_o themselves_o who_o best_o know_v their_o power_n have_v in_o their_o late_a declaration_n protest_v against_o it_o for_o they_o say_v they_o have_v power_n of_o jurisdiction_n of_o declare_v the_o law_n in_o particular_a case_n before_o they_o than_o not_o in_o all_o case_n but_o who_o shall_v be_v judge_n of_o those_o case_n by_o which_o they_o be_v entitle_v to_o jurisdiction_n can_v therâ—…_n be_v any_o one_o a_o competent_a judge_n of_o this_o but_o themselves_o and_o they_o have_v past_o their_o judgement_n who_o ought_v or_o dare_v to_o contradict_v it_o no_o reverse_v of_o their_o judgement_n but_o by_o the_o judgement_n of_o a_o subsequent_a parliament_n why_o then_o since_o none_o can_v know_v their_o power_n or_o if_o they_o can_v they_o be_v not_o competent_a judge_n of_o it_o how_o dare_v any_o one_o go_v about_o to_o dispute_n their_o power_n or_o call_v in_o question_n their_o judgement_n the_o desire_n of_o the_o commons_o in_o the_o reign_n of_o edw._n 3._o be_v that_o they_o may_v not_o advise_v in_o thing_n de_fw-fr queux_fw-fr ils_fw-fr nount_fw-fr pas_fw-fr cognizance_n the_o matter_n in_o debate_n then_o concerning_o the_o settle_n of_o intestine_a commotion_n guard_v the_o march_n in_o scotland_n and_o the_o sea_n conclude_v no_o more_o than_o this_o that_o they_o think_v themselves_o not_o competent_a counselor_n in_o thiâ—…_n case_n happy_o by_o reason_n of_o their_o unskilfulness_n in_o that_o way_n or_o for_o that_o the_o king_n have_v then_o more_o able_a counsellor_n to_o advise_v with_o in_o that_o matter_n which_o under_o favour_n be_v no_o renounce_n of_o jurisdiction_n but_o to_o give_v a_o more_o full_a and_o satisfactory_a answer_n at_o that_o time_n the_o king_n comply_v with_o his_o parliament_n and_o will_v not_o be_v advise_v by_o other_o and_o then_o there_o be_v no_o breach_n of_o trust_n there_o 〈◊〉_d the_o less_o reason_n for_o the_o parliament_n to_o advise_v or_o intermeddle_v with_o affair_n of_o that_o nature_n but_o if_o the_o king_n have_v then_o desert_v the_o counsel_n of_o his_o parliament_n and_o cleave_v to_o the_o advice_n of_o his_o young_a man_n like_o rehoboam_n certain_o than_o they_o will_v not_o have_v desert_v their_o power_n in_o danger_n of_o the_o common-wâ—…alth_n which_o by_o their_o