things that which is directly opposite and contrary to their owne Conscience and iudgment in Religion Therefore to proceede in my first intended purpose and proposition I argue in this maner Noe men which by their owne testimonies and writings doe generally dislike or disallowe of the temporall princes supreamacie in spirituall and ecclesiasticall Causes and in straunge and danigerous order can or may in conscience by oathe and swearinge allowe yt But this is the common estate of english protestants by their owne confessions published in writinge Therefore they cannot in conscience sweare to the oathe of supreamacie in temporall princes or allowe yt for true doctrine The maior proposition is euidently true for in soe dyinge they are periured and forsworne and in a matter of highe moment And all periury is damnable And soe noe spirituall communication to bee had with such men in such matters or in things daungerous vnto or against Regalitie or lawfull regiment allowed by the lawe of God and true Religion The minor proposition that protestants in England are in this condition is thus proued by their owne Testimonies The protestant author of the booke named Certaine demaundes writeth in these words The protestant Bishops doe not attributie Cert demaund An 1605. p. 54 any more spirituall authoritie vâ—to the Kinge to make constitute and ordeyne Canons Constitutions Rites or Ceremonies then they giue vnto him spiritual povver to preache the vvorlde adminisâ—er the sacraments and excommunicate But the articles of their Religion confirmed and thus published by his maiestie resolueth this matter in these wordes Wee giue not to our Articles of Relig. ar 37 Prince the ministrings either of Gods vvorde or of the sacraments the vvhich thinge the iniunctions alsoâ— sometime sett forth by Elizabeth our late Queene doe moste plainely testifie Therefore as the Conclusion before is The protestants of England cannot by their owne doctrine without periury sweare to the kings supreamacie Therefore parlamentarie proâ—estants and puritans alsoe holdinge this opinion against the kings supreamacie and yett for preferment or other carnall respects hauing sworne vnto yt are periured and forsworne in a damnable degree And thus by this title the pretended ministery of England is a periured Ministery by their owne writings Againe I argue in this maner whatsoeuer Ministery claymeth their callinge to bee by lawe diuine diuinae ordinationis doe by the doctrine of english protestants deny the kings supreamacie But both the parlament protestants and puritanes thus clayme their callinge of ministery Therefore by their owne doctrine deny the kings supreamacie The maior proposition is proued by the protestant author of the booke named Certaine Considerations in these wordes if the english protestants Cert consider pa. 46. opinion bee mayntayned that Bishops iurisdiction is de iure diuino his maiestie and all the nobilitie ought to bee subiect to excommunication Therefore by this protestant reason the kinge is not supreame for hee that is supreame or superior cannot be excommunicated by the inferior which hath not power ouer the supe-superior much lesse ouer him that is supreame Againe hee that is supreame is subiect to none because not inferior but aboue commaundinge all Yett here the kinge is both named subiect and Censured as an inferior and to that penance and punishment soe greuous that the protestant author of Assertion thus expresseth Assertion An. 1604. pag. 326. it inflicted on princes by their supreamacies Excommunication is terrible to princes and rulers a delyuery of the soule to sathan punishment of the bodie and daunger of goâ—ds Excommunication is soe powerfull as it can constreyne princes and rulers to doe their duties M. Ormerod alsoe remembreth this protestant doctrine Ormer dial 1. in these words princes ought to submitt themselues to the Seniors of the church they ought to be coÌ„teÌ„t to be ruled gouerned punished corrected excoÌ„municated by their discretioÌ„ at their pleasur Then whether these protestaÌ„ts can in coÌ„science sweare to the kings supreamacie as they haue done or sweare an oathe soe much concerning their Bishops presbitery as the named Oathe of alledgeance coÌ„cerneth the Popes prerogatiue and whether it is more reasonable for any one temporall prince to acknowledge The Bishop of the cheefest Apostolicke See whome all Catholicke princes of Christendome and the church of Christ euer acknowledged for their supreame spirituall pastor and gouernor to bee alsoe vnto him as hee is and euer was to all his progenâ—tors kings and other princes or singularly with soe manifest daunger against scriptures councels fathers histories and all authorities and examples to make himselfe his soule bodie life and goods as before subiect and at the pleasure of his subiects euery pretended Bishop in his dioces and euery Minister of the presbyterie in his parishe or diuision I leaue these for others to conclude onely I add that these protestants by this their claymed superiority ouer princes haue within lesse then fourtie yeares disinherited depriued and spoyled more temporall princes of their lawfull territories and dominions as is proued against them by a Catholicke writer of our nation Then the Pope by any prerogatiue title Moder Answ ca. 8. c. 9. See the protestants there cited or clayme with the consent of kingdomes hath taken vpon him to alter the Regiment of temporall kinges from the first begynning of Christianitie to these dayes But more of this matter hereafter The minor proposition that both the protestant Bishops now and the presbiterie clayme their callings Iure diuino by the law of God and not from the prince is euidently proued before And manifest in probation of the first proposition For the lawes of this land and wee admitt noe others are soe far from making it the office and power of any Bishop presbiterie parson or societie whatsoeuer â—o excommunicate their prince delyuer his soule to Sathan punish his bodie on daunger his goods constreyne rule gouerne correct and punish him at their discretion and pleasure as their owne words before bee that the very conspiring or consenting vnto such things is a state of high Treason and greatest offence to lawe in this kingedome Therefore they must blasphemousely clayme as they doe other things from the lawe oâ— God noe other in force here as before Then I may say with their owne protestant writer in these words The kinges supreamacie is fallen Certaine coÌ„sideratioÌ„s An. 1605. pag. 47. downe and ouerthrowne in the moste daungerous degree by the english protestant proceedings And this might suffice for this purpose demonstratiuely prouing what I promised But I argue further in this maner Whoeseuer doe not onely say that the protestant Bishops or presbiterie haue the supreamacie in spirituall things and kings haue nothing therein to deale but must submitt their scepters and Crowns lose their Royaltie cease to bee kings not to bee obeyed to bee deposed vnthroned bereaued of all power and principalitie c. as the protestant ministery shall please or denownce
ministery wee are all one wee are all of one faithe VVee are ministers of the worde by one order wee preache one faith and substance of doctrine Then which nothing was euer more truly said or written Willet Antilog pag. 15. 20. Your greate Controuertist D. Willet writeth thus amonge protestants of â—ngland there is noe difference or dissâ—nt in any substantiall point of faith As for puritans and Caluinio-papists they are termes of papists deuisinge D. Georgâ— Abb. sup pa. 90. 106. 236. 237. Povvell sup pag. 48. 52 Your present protestant Archbishop of Canterbury is soe confident herein that hee vseth thes wordes Noe Goliath against vs can proue the contrary D. Powell with publicke approbation hath thes wordes Noe reformer euer distinguished betweene protestants and them of the reformed church The puritans doe not affirme the diuision betweene protestants and them to bee in substantiall points non but papists affirme that protestants and puritans differ in substantiall points of faith and hee lyeth which saith they differ in substantiall poyntes Like are the testimonies of others But thes are fullie sufficient in this place Therefore seeing I am to alleadge onelie causes and reasons essentiall and substantiall in Religion from thes your english protestant Bishops and doctors why their countrie Catholicks may not by their owne doctrines and proceedings communicate with them in matters of Religion It is euident that noe english protestant or puritane may or in conscience ought to denie any such authoritie to bee cited in this treatise or any conclusion truelie and scientificallie deduced from such their allowed principles for in soe doeinge by their generall graunt before hee should become a papist and a recusant to communicate with protestants or a blasphemous Goliah vncircumcised philistine or a lyer by their owne censure and Iudgment which would bee new and vrgent causes to auoide all spirituall communion with such men Wherevppon presuminge that noe aduersarie will soe muche disable my studyes in diuinitie and artes subordinate vnto yt But that I am able from graunted and allowed principles to deduce necessarie and vndemiable Conclusions I therefore doe confidentlie name this worke A booke of english protestants Demonstrations for English Catholicks recusancie Because the moste iust causes of Catholicks refusall to communicate with protestanâ—s in Religion are euidentlie proued by those protestants them selues in this Treatise And soe in all obedient and humble manner I take my leaue I rest and hope to continue for euer in all dutifull and beseeminge obedience and loue to our moste blessed Sauiour his Holie church and Religion his maiestie my dearest countrie and your Lordships the moste honorable portion thereof as I haue before professed and obliged myselfe by attestation and bonde vnuiolable PROTESTANTS DEMONSTRATIONS FOR CATHOLICKS RECVSANCIE The first particular protestant Demonstration why english Catholicks may not communicate in spirituall thinges with protestants is because by their owne testimonies yt would bee an act and offence vnreasonable irreligious and damnable THAT it is not lawfull for any Catholicke or member of the Romane church to communicate in Religion and spirituall thinges with the protestants of England I demonstrate by their owne testimonies And first argue thus Noe professors of Religion may lawfully and with securitie forsake that church and communion in which by the testimonie of aduersaries themselues there is saluation and many haue beene by that profession glorious Saints to communicate with a new Religion whereof there is noe such hope or certaine expectation But the state of Catholicks by communicating wâ—th protestants and forsakinge vnion with the church of Rome should bee in this â—erplexitie euen by thes protestants confession Therefore they may not in conscience forsake communion with the Romane church to ioyne with thes protestants in such busines The fiâ—st proposition is euidently true for good thinges and certaine may not bee left and forsaken for thingeâ— either euill or vncertainely good And that men may not communicate in a straunge Religion is confirmed by D. Couell and M. Hull prouinge yt by many Couell exaÌ„ â—a 200. 201 Hul. Rom. â—ol p. 30. 31 32. 33. 34. Sutcliff exaÌ„ of petit pa. 10. 11. Povvel ref â—pist apoloâ—â—tic pag. â—5 23. 26. 27. 100. 114 112. 113. c. Feild pa. 27 pag. 182. examples and testimonies of scriptures and antiquitie Tâ—at wee may not communiâ—ate â—ith men of a diuers Religion D. Sutcliffe telleth vs that such communion is reproued by the authoritie both of the fathers of the church and of aunâ—iâ—nt Christian Empâ—rors The like hee testifieth of Holy scriptures M. Powell is plentifull in this matters and not needfull to bee cited noâ— man of learninge and conscience affirminge communion in a false or contrary Religion to bee lawfull The minor proposition of certaintie of saluation in the Roman church is thus confirmed by thes protestants D. Feilds wordes bee thes the Romane and laâ—ine church continued the true church of God euen till our tyme and againe in this maner Wee doubt not but the church of Râ—me in which the Bishop thereof exaltâ—d himselfe was not withstandingâ— the true câ—urch of God that is helâ— a sauing profession of the truthe in Christ and by force thereof conuerted many contryes from error to truthe D. Couell writeth thus in the name of them all Protestants Couell def of hooke pa. 68. doe gladly acknowledge them of the Romane church to bee tâ—â— family of â—hesus Christ they of Rome Were still are in the church it â—â— straunge for any man to deny them of Rome to bee of the church Wee affirme them of the Romane church Couell supr pag 73. 76. to bee partes of the church of Christ and that those that lyue and dye in that church may bee saued Yett both hee and D. Feild giue this sentence Couell sup pag. 76. Feild p. 69. Feild pag. 182. there iâ— noe saluation remission of synnes or hope of eternall life out of the church D. Feild further telleth vs that diuers of the Romane church euen of the best learned that coulde not pleade Ignorance bee saued and Saints in heauen Their Bishop Barlowe hath written how greate difficultie it is for princes to bee saued Barl. ag a name lâ—sse Cathol Willet An. pag. 144. Speede Theat of greate Britan yett D. Willet writeth thus it is not denyed by any protestant but many renowned kinges and Queenes of the Romane faithe are Saincts in heauen The names of our moste holy kinges and Queenes of England which M. Speede in his late Theater of greate Britanie relateth to haue forsaken their Crownes and kingdomes to become pore Monkes Nunnes in that church and Religion and to bee chronicled for all posterities to haue beene moste holy one â—arthe and now glorious Saints in heauen are too many to bee recited Therefore seing thes protestants assure vs that the church of Rome is the true church of Christ they that liue and dye in yt come to heauen and many
such are soe renowned Saints with God in heauen and that out of the true church there is noe saluation remission of sinnes or hope of eternall life and there is but one true church Catholicks in conscience cannot forsake the Religion and communion of that sacred and sauing Roman church to communicate with protestants Againe I argue thus That church and Religion â— vnto which all former good Christians of this kingdome whether Brittanes Romanes Saxons Danes Noruegians or Normans kinges or subiects were vnited in Religion vntill the tyme of kinge Henry the eight is still in all prudent Iudgment to bee continued in and communicated withall But the Romane church and Religion is such Therfore not to bee forsaken The maior proposition is euidently true for of necessitie that Religion of Christ which is good and maketh the professors of it such is to bee embraced and followed and they which embrace and followe yt to bee imitated and communicated with and the contrary to bee auoyded and forsaken for as it is the nature of goodnes and good thinges to bee desired and embraced Soe of euill such things to bee left and refused The Minor proposition is manifest by too many protestants to bee recited in this place I will therefore onely alledge their cheifest latest and moste approued writers M. Speed taking vppon him the name of the Author of the late booke called the Theater of greate Britaine is soe partiall a reporter Theater of greate Brit. in all christian kings vntill Henry 8. of things for protestants by Instigation of their Bishops and Ministers that hee is taxed by all indifferent men that were either the Composers of yt or that haue perused it with equall Iudgment And yett hee is wittnes through the Regiments of all Christian kings of England from Lucius the first vnrill the desolution begen by K. Henry the eight that the popes supreamacies Holy sacrifices of Masse prayer to Saincts and for the deade reuerence of Holy relicks and Images pilgrimage purgatory and other catholicke doctrines now impugned by protestants were euer allowed and generally practiced in this kingdome by practice and deuoute profession whereof to omit subiects though of high renowne sonnes and daughters of kings them selues more kings and Queenes in England became religeous monkes and Nunnes and now by thes protestants are honored for glorious kinges Queenes and Saincts in heauen Then euer were protestant kinges and Queenes in all the world though neuer soâ— vnworthy the name of Theater of greate Brit. pag. 33. n. 8. pag. 49. n. 5. pag. 53. pag 159 p. 161. pag. 294. pag. 298. pag. 301. pag. 305. Theat supr pag. 344. pag. 47. pag. 302. pag. 306. pag. 308. pag. 310. pag. 311. pag. 338. pag. 361. pag. 364. pag. 366. Saincts or sanctitie Such were as thes protestants tell vs Kinge and Sainct Ethelbert kinge and Sainct Offa and Sainct Fremandus his sonne kinge and Sainct Cheldwald kinge and Saint Sebba and his sonne and heire kinge and Saint Sighâ—rd kinge and Saint Ceolnulph kinge and Saint Egbert kinge and Saint Ethelred kinge and S. Errcombert kinge and S. Inas kinge and Saint Richarde kings and Saincts Edwards kinges and Sainct Epmunds and others women Queenes and Saincts Queene and Saint Outhburge Queene and Sainct Etheldred Queene and Saint Kineburge Queene and Saint Eadburge Queene and S. Eue Queene and S. Ethelburge Queene and S. Oswith kinge Sebba his wife not named by them Queene and Sainct kinswith Queene and Sainct Ermenhâ—ld Queene and S. Sexburge Queene and S. Ethelswith Queene S. Elfride Queene and S. Eanfled Queene and S. Edgine Queene and S. Edith Queene and S. Elfgine Queene and S. Emna Queene and Saint Eleanor with others That thes holy kinges and Queenes now glorious Saincts in heauen such as a false Religion could not make them were of that holy catholicke and Romane Religion which wee now professe and for profession Theater in those kinges and Queenes c. Bale l. de scrip Britan. in Augustino Parker in antiq Britan in Cranmer will in Synops Antylog c. Theater pa. 203. cap 9. Suteliff ag Kell pa. 105 Theater sup pag. 222. kinge Edw. lavves fol. 231. pag. 1. thereof vndergoe soe many miseries not only this their Theater but their pretended Bishop Bale before their soe named Archbishop Parker Doctor Willet and others testifie neither was there from the begynning by their writings any Religion or iurisdiction lawfully practised in this kingdome but from S. Peter the Apostle and the Popes of Rome of S. Peter thus they write That hee here founded churches D. Sutcliffs argument of Supreamacie and ordayned preists and deacons is reported by Simon Metaphraâ—â—es out of the greeke antiquities not likely to corrupt for the Romane church Guilielmus Eisingrenius in the first of his Century whoe saith that Peter was here in Neroes tyme They vrge for Pope and S. Eleuthertus epistle to kinge Lucius the lawes of S. Edward published by their protestant frend M. Lambert of Kent out of their Bishop Parkers library And by them and those their published lawes is euident that the Brittanes did not onely receaue all spirituall Iurisdiction Religion Bishops and preists from that holy Pope but temporall benefites more then protestants are gratefull for or I meane to vrge or stand vppon The wordes of those their cited lawes in the very page before are thes concerning King Edwards lavveâ— fol. 130 pa. 2. the Crowne of England The whole land all the Ilands to Norway and Denmarke belonge to the Crowne of his kingdome and are of the appendancies and dignities of the kinge and it is one Monarchie and oâ—e kingdome and was sometime called the kingdome of Britanye and now called the kingdome of Englishmen For Lord Eleutherius Pope whoe first sent an hallowed Crowne to Britanny and Christianitie by Gods inspiration to Lucius kinge of the Britannes appointed and allowed to the Crowne of the kingdome such metes and bowndes as are said before Of our Conuersion and Religion by S. Augustine and after they haue spoken sufficiently before I will add but one testimonie of their primatiue kinge and Saint Inaâ— their words bee thus Kinge Ina builded the renowned abbey of Theater pa. 298. 299. n. 11. Glastembury moste stately to the honor of Christ Peter and Paule where formerly stood the old Cell of Ioseph of Aremathia Which this kinge Ina after a moste sumptuous maner new built The Chappell whereof he garnished with gold syluer and gaue riech ornaments therto as altare Chalice Censor candlesticks Bason and holy water buckett Imadges and pale for the altare of an incredible value For the golde there vppon besiowed amounted to three hundred three pownde whaight and the syluer to twoe thowsand eight hundred thirtie fiue pownde besides prctious gemmes embrouched in the celebrating vesteres hee instituted a yearely payment to the See of Rome a penny for an howse on lammas day called Peter pence After hee had raigned in
they were noe Bishops being of necessitie either made by a woman which they confesse could not doe yt or by the pretended Bishops of kinge Edwards makinge vtterly alsoe as before condemned by lawe and the Iudges themselues And yett of thes twoe abâ—urdities that which was the worst and moste absurde to bee made by a woman vncapable must needs bee their case For the new Booke of coÌ„secr statu An. 3. Ed 6. ca 12. Stat. 1. Mar. Booke of Articleâ— of Religion 1562 articul 36. Stat. An. 8. Elizab. c. 1. forme and fashion of making pretended Bishops and preists in the time of the child kinge Edward the sixt abolished by Queene Mary was neuer reuiued by the english protestants vntill their booke of Articles made in the fourth or fift yeare of Queene Elizabeth made in their conuocation consisting as before is euident onely of lay men without authoritie receaued yt and was neuer allowed by parlament vntill this in the eight yeare of Queene Elizabeth Soe that by noe possibilitie thes after Acts if they had beene powerable in religeous causes the contrary whereof is euident could make soe many yeares before pretended and vnlawfull Acts and consecrations now to bee true and lawfull Therefore thes pretended protestant Bishops and Ministers can by noe power by their owne proceedings bee lawfull wanting both true forme matter maner men ordering and the Acts and CoÌ„c Floren. in â—nioÌ„ will apud â—arkes p. 137. 180. Park ib. â—ilâ— surâ— p. â—2 mort pa 2 Apol. p. 340 l. 4 c. 18 Relat. ca. 47 â—eild p. 202. 218. functions themselues as is before proued and â—ppeareth by the councell of â—lorence which D. Willeâ— M. Parkes and others allow for generall which D. Bilâ—on D. Moâ—ton their Relator of Religiâ—n and D. Feild assure vs hath supreame power and authoritie to commaund all whomsoeuer to obey the definitions thereof Neither need I appeale to generall councells though their graunt in this Question for by their owne parlâ—ments Articles common writings and publicke doctrine yt is more then euident that their pretended Bishops by whome their ministers and other pretended Bishops bee made bee noe more Bishops then their ordinaâ—y ministers none at all noe more then all lay men bee noe more nor soe much as kinge Edward 6. a child Q. Elizabeth a woman and our present and euer of mee moste honored kinge Iames were or is by their proceedings which is thus made euident by their owne Religion Euery distinct order hath some really and essentially distinct Act and office to execute which others from which it is distinguished haue not nor can performe But the pretended callinge of protestant Bishops in England by their owne proceedings hath noe such really and essentially distinct Act or office Therefore by their owâ—e Religion it is noe distinct order The mâ—ior proposition is euidently true for euery distâ—â—ct Order power facultie or habilitie spirituall or other is soe knowne and distinguished The minor proposition is thus proued by themselues For whereas our Pontificall and scholes ascribe to episcopall Order PoÌ„tifical in Ord. Sacer. epâ—schol insacr ord in 3. p. d. Th. c. Articles of Relig. Artie sacram c thes Acts to coÌ„secrate Christne giue twoe sacraments Orders and confirmation thes protestants by their publick Articles and practice both deny all thes and yett ascribe noe other peculiar Act or office to their pretended Bishops make ministers and confirme children I answeare they deny both them to bee Sacraments and soe hauing noe misticall consecration but being onely ceremonies may bee vsed by men noe Bishops and soe in all protestants Presbyteries pretended ministers allowed by them are made by onely ministers and where the ceremonie of confirmation is allowed by protestants out of England it is al soe ministred by onely ministers and if thes doe not giue grace effectually as they say it is not necessarie to appoinct a distinct order for their ministration Soe there is now nothing left for thes pretended Bishops but pretended iurisdiction but this is from the kinge that is Queene Elizabeth and kinge Edward 6. before supreame in this busines and soe by their Religion more truely and better Bishops then Ridley Parker Whiteguift or any of that pretended calling And as the pretended Commissioners Stat. Ed. 6. Stat. An. 1. Eliz. cap. 1. Foxe tom 2 in Ed. 6. Eliz. Holin supr c. of kinge Edward and Q. Elizabeth related by their Statutes Foxe Hollinshed others withall power from them to reforme Religion were in thes mens doctrine more worthie the name of Bishops then they which haue that name but want that office power Soe his maiestie in their Religion by his supreamacie inspirituall things may by his letters patents and commission not onely with kinge Edward and Q Elizabeth authorize his Foxe in Ed v. in B. Card Stowe Hollinsh Speed c. An. 1 Eliza in histor lay Councellors and mere temporall men to Iudge depriue and depose Bishops but to bee allowed for Bishops Archbishops and higher patriarkes without any consecration or other ceremony They which gaue this power to Q. Elizabeth and our Soueraigne were onely lay men and neither any of them in particulâ—r or all in generall equall vnto him that is supreame Therefore it is his power by their doctrine at his pleasure without any ministers concurrence or consent to take order and neuer more neede then when their Religion is become a mockery of all true Religion in thes affaires and to make any the meanest subiect without any imâ—osing of handes speaking or prayer ouer him or other complement in such busines greater in callinge and dignitie then hee that beareth the name Archbishop primate of all England amonge them But the present soe named Archbishop of Obiect Canterbury director of M. Mason and his directed scholler perhaps will say that allthough D. Sutcliffe and too many others to bee cited and the said soe called Archbishop himselfe in and at other places and times for their adnantage and to serue their turne doe teach affirme as a matter of faith that the Pope is Antichrist noe true Bishop preist or maker of such yett in this their worke asscribed to M. Mason they confesse the contrary and therein they affirme that one of their pretended Consecrators Barlowe was a true Bishop and made by Romane or true catholick Consecration in the time of kinge Henry 8. And soe in time of necessitie such as their begynning was might make a Bishop Alas I cannot tell how to make Answ answeare to this obiection or rather petition not for any difficultie conteyned in yt But for feare of offence in speaking truth and giuinge the lye to soe many protestant Bishops and Doctors before soe confidently telling vs they doe not differ in any essentiall or materiall point of Religion such as this is But put into this perplexitie I must vse this Dilemma if their first opinion That the Pope is Antichrist and cannot
for the truth of Christs Ghospell to bee preached without preachers and true ministers lawfully ordeyned sent expresseth it by this gradation as these protestants themselues translate him How shall they call on him in whome they haue 〈◊〉 ca. 10 vers 14. 15. not beleeued and how shall they beleeue in him of whom they haue not heard and how shall they heare without a preacher and how shall they preach except they bee sent And therevppon these english protestants in their moste authoriâ—ed Artiâ—les vtterly disable all that are not lawfully called to thes functions And D. Couell giueth a reason of it in these wordes Tâ—e church hath Art minist in the congreg art 23 Couell exa pag. 130. noe reason to heare their voice whom Christ hath not commaunded to feede his sheâ—pâ— Secondly there is made demonstration before first in generall that all groundes and rules in diuinitie scriptures traditions Popes Councells fathers c. are against their doctrines and opinions as alsoe that in particular in euery cheefe Article questioned betweene Catholicks and them they are in vnexcusable error by their owne testimonies therefore the pure word cannot bee preached by them their church consequently is not by their owne definition the true church nor any hope of saluation to bee had in their Religion And soe they are not to bee communicated with in such busines Further I argue thus noe societie or congregation of men hauing by their owne confession errors in matters of faith to bee rectified and amended hauing erroneous conceipts desiring seâ—king or wanting reformation in matters of beleefe can bee said to haue the pure word of God preached with them But these english protestants by their owne confession are in this state Therfore the pure worde of God is not preached with them The maior proposition is euidently true for as nothinge is soe vndoubtedlie true as the worde of God which by noe possibilitie can bee vntrue and the pure word of God cannot bee vnpure and false Soe errors in matters of faith to bee rectified amended c. cannot by any meanes bee said to bee pure the worde of God or truth but the quite opposite vnpure the word of the deuill a lyer and falsehood The minor proposition is thus proued by these protestaÌ„ts first D. Willet is soe absolute that their english protestant church is erroneous and false in doctrine that M. Parkes writeth of him in these words M. Willet exclaymeth moste bitterly Parkes ag lymbo p. â—0 Couell exaÌ„ p. 212. 213. against the protestants english church in the preface before his Antilogie D. Couell turning his speach to our kinge for Correction hath these words The church of England which lâ—etâ— prostrate at your graces feete desireth not to beâ— fauoured in her errors nor to haue her corruptions warranted by authoritie D. Wiliet telleth vs it Willet sup pag. 43. petition of 1000. c. Answere of the vniuersity King speach 19 mart An. 1603. hath erroneous conceipts it hath errors in doctrine The petition of the millinarie Puritans write how erroneous the english protestants church is and far from hauing the pure word of God preached in yt And the two vniuersities in their Answere submit their Religion to bee corrected or altered as the kinge pleased And the kings Maiestie himselfe in publicke parlament vseth these word I could wish froÌ„ my hart that laying willfullnes aside wee might meete in the midst I would for my owne part bee content to meete them in the midd way that all nouelties might bee renounced These hee testifieth of the english protestant Religion And in the Conference at Hampton Court as their Bishop Barlowe relateth it concludeth this point as all the rest that Conference pag. 47. errors in matters of faith might bee rectified and amended Then if the kinge and whole protestant assembly all the rest concluded that the errors in matters of faith might bee rectified c. Their opinion was that they had errors in matters of faith and soe not the pure word of God which by noe possibilitie can admit such errors nor any one least error at all in Religion Againe thus I argue None that haue beene condemned about articles of faith or as heretiks by generall councell haue the pure worde of God or may bee communicated with in such religeous things but the english protestants are such by their owne iudgments Therfore they haue not the pure word preached nor may bee communicated with in Religion The maior proposition is euidently true and shall more lardgely bee handled in my chapter that these englsh protestants by their owne testimonies are hereticks in the meane time D. Couell writing how wee may not communicate with such men doth thus define them Hereticks Couell exaÌ„ pag. 199. are they whoe directly gaynesay some article of our faith and are or haue beene condemned by seme generall Councell The minor proposition that our english protestants haue beene thus condemned by their owne confession not onely by some one generall Councell which this protestant D. alloweth for a lawfull condemnation of men for hereticks but by many Couâ—â—â—lls acknowledged by themselues for generall is proued by them before And for this place their generally allowed Article shall suffice sett downe in these words Generall Councells may err and sometime haue erred euen in things pertayning vnto God wherefore things ordeyned by them as necessarie to saluation haue neither strength nor authoritie vnlesse yt may bee declared that they bee taken out of Holy scripture And how declaration with them in this poynt consisteth in their owne priuate deduction for they can neuer haue any to bee esteemed publicke against a publicke generall is thus testified by M Wotton and the authorized priuiledg to this booke deduction from scripture WottoÌ„ def of perk pa. 467. maketh a matter of faith By which Rule if priuate men may soe censure generall councells there neuer was or can bee any heresie Therefore by this doctrine in all probabilitie the english protestants assuredly know how they haue beene condemned for hereticks and are as such to bee auoided in communication of Religion Otherwise they would not soe extoll priuate and fallible deduction aboue the authoritie of generall Councells to say that these may err and their priuate deductions are such warrant for them that they should priuiledge a man to write in all their names in this maner Wee acknowledge both and holde all matters WottoÌ„ sup pag. 467. concluded logically out of the scriptures to bee the word of God as well as if they were expressely sett downe in yt vvorde for vvordâ— And yett they generally teach as before that their church hath errors in doctrine and that neither prince nor any amonge them is free from error Then Willet art p. 43 150. noe man is left to make these their pretended infallible deductions from scripture Therefore the pure word of God neither is nor by their writings can bee preached with
may not bee communicated with in Religion either by the lawe of God or of this kingedome But the english protestant doctrine is such by their owne writings Therefore not to bee communicated withall in Religion The maior proposition is soe euidently true that it is manifest spirituall treason heresie and Rebellion to God and ciuill Treason in moste highe degree against our kinge by the lawes of this nation to deny yt And the minor proposition is thus proued by these protestants one protestant writeth thus Câ—rtaine demauÌ„ An. 1605. p. 42. Couell exaÌ„ â—ag 12. To establish the commaund of the ciuill magistrate the squar and plumet of subiects conscience is to wrest the scriptures and a Tyranny D. Couell recordeth their opinion thus First fruites tenthes subsedies contributions of ecclesiasticall parsons to the prince are sacriledge and Robbery D. Willet writeth in this maner Princes arâ— not to Willâ—t Antil pa. 151. Assertion An. 1604. Ormer pict purit epist dedic dial 1. bee obeyed in all ecclesiasticall lawes An other writeth thus The temporall prince neuer had any spirituall power in this kingedome M. Ormered setteth downe their doctrine in these words Christian Soueraignes ought not to bee called heads vnder Christ of the particular and visible churches within their dominions princes ought not to meddle with the making of lawes orders and Ceremoâ—ies for the church As the ministers Ormerod supr d. 4. meddle not with makinge of ciuill lawes and lawes for the common wealthe sâ—â— the ciuill Magistrate hath not to ordeyne Ceremonies pertayninge to the churche Noe ciuill Magistrates in Councells dialog 1. or assemblers for church matters can either bee cheife moderator ouer Ruler iudge or determiner To bee breife in this matter D. Morton perceauing that deniall of the princes supreamacie MortoÌ„ coÌ„f of the pop auth par 3 p. 25. p. 26. was proued to bee the doctrine of their Bishop Bilson D. Fulke D. Whitaker D. Sutcliffe D. Couell D. Downame D. Willet M. Hooker M. Bell and others cheife writers amonge them denyeth it not eyther for them or himselfe but referreth the matter to S. Leo Pope of Rome who as hee was one of the moste learned godly fathers that euer were soe hee is knowne and acknowledged by protestants to bee the greatest patrone of the Popes supreamacie that was in that primatiue and learned age and taught as M. Ormerod telleth vs that God did assist direct that See in decrees And yett neither kinge Ormer pict pap pa. 44. nor Pope must bee supreame heade when it pleaseth them But either their Bishops or presbitery M Ormerod thus relateth their opinion Ormerod dial 2. To these three ioinily that is the ministers Senion and deacons is the whole regiment of the church to bee committed And how far this Regiment by them extendeth is before expressed euen to punish and depose princes and M. Ormerod further recompteth in these words Princes must remember to subiect themselues to the churche to Ormerod dial 1. submitt their scepters to throwe downe their Crownes before the churche yea to licke the dust of the feete of the churche And these soe well agreing protestants are or were soe far from swearinge to the supreamacie of a Temporall prince that in Scotland as they themselues wittnesse they caused our Soueraige kinge Iames to sweare to their supreamacie The words of the protestant defendor of the ministers Reasons are these The Kings maiestie hath not Defence of the minist reas pag. 3. Suruey of the Booke of common prayer p. 23 onely subscribed but sworne to the discipline An other protestant writer hath these words is it not generally knowne that his maiestie hath by subscription sworne to mayntayne the discipline in Scotland in these words To the vvhich vvee ioyne ourselues vvillingly in doctrine faith Religion discipline and vse of the holy sacraments as a liuely member of the same promisingâ— and swearinge by the greate name of our Lord that wee shall defend the same accordinge to our vocation and power all the dayes of our life vnder the payne conteyned in the lawe and daunger bothe of bodie and soule in the day of Gods fearefull iudgment And yett his maiestie hath told vs before that these men to obtayne their purpose first gaue supreamacie to the Queene there But their purpose now obtayned the Kinge himselfe by their Relation subscribeth sweareth to their supreamacie as a subiect to them as his Superiors What moste horrible and odious positions about depriuinge deposing killinge and murtheringe of princes not sutinge to their humors in Religion not without horror to bee named are recorded by their brother Whittingham Wittingh pref to Goodni booke deane of durrhame and affirmed to bee approued by the best learned at Geneua Caluine Whittingham Goodman Gilby Couerdale one of their pretended Bishops from whome D. Sutcliffe befor claymeth their ministery Whiteheade english protestants and others and to bee seene in they suruey of holy discipline attributed to their late protestant Archbishop of Canterbury Suruey of of Hol. discipl D. Bancroft which I breefely remember here though befor the time of my syxe limited yeares Because the protestant Authors of the offer of conference speaking in the name of all their protestant profession call those positions the doctrine of the worthiest protestants and thus Offer of CoÌ„fer p. 18. 19 affirme they consent in iudgment with those parsons and churches and together with other churches hold the foresaid positions And Doctor Couell will secure mee in this poynt that I doe Couell exaÌ„ pag 35. 36. not exceede my limitts his wordes bee these That it is lawfull to kill wicked kings waâ— the doctrine of the best and moste learned about Geneua and those partes Neither neede wee to seeke these obedient doctrines at Geneua where they depriued their temporall prince or in Scotland deposinge their lawfull Queene and Princesse England it selfe will yeeld vs too much choice of these doctrines M. Ormerod doth thus relate them what Kinge Prynce or Emperour shall disanull Ormer pict purit epist. ded c. 2. supr d. 3. the discipline hee is to bee reputed Gods enemy and to bee held vnworthie to raigne aboue his people And more plainely of all princes in generall in these words Kinges and princes are naturally enemyes to the libertie of the ghospell and can neuer patiently heare the yeoke of Christ. The sup â— 1. gouernment of the common wealthe must bee framed accordinge to the gouernment of the churche where there must bee equalitie and paritie Whervppon their Bishop Barlowe thus relateth the speach of his maiestie in their publicke Conference The presbytery aswell agreeth vvith a monarchie as God and the deuill lacke and Tom and Conference at Hampt Court p. 79 Will and Dicke vvill Censure the Kinge and all their proceedings at their pleasure in Scotlande he vvas a kinge vvithout state vvithout honour vvithout order vvhere beardelesse boyes
PROTESTANTS DEMONSTRATIONS FOR CATHOLIKS RECVSANCE ALL TAKEN FROM SVCH ENGLISH Protestant Bishops Doctors Ministers parlaments lawes decrees and proceedings as haue beene printed published or allowed among them in England since the cominge of our king Iames into this kingdome and for the most parte within the first six or seuen yeares thereof AND EVIDENTLIE PROVINGE by their owne writings that english Catholiks may not vnder damnable syn coÌ„municate with English Protestants in their Seruice Sermons or matters of Religion and soe conuincinge by theÌ„selues their ReligioÌ„ to be most damnable among other things their ministery to bee voide false vsurped Princes haue persecuted mee without a cause Psalm 118. By IOHN HEIGHAM at Douay VVith Licence ANNO 1615. A BRIEFE TABLE OF THESE DEMONSTRATIONS The 1. Demonst. Because by their owne testimonies it would be an act and offence vnreasonable irreligious and damnable pag. 1. The 2. Demonst. In respect of their Ministers vnlawfull false and intruded and not to be coÌ„municated with by their owne writinges pag. 21 The 3. Domonst Because the not preaching of the worde of God is not among them by their owne testimonies pag. 49. The 4. Demonst Because English Prot. by their owne testimonies want the due administration of Sacraments pag 56 The 5. Demonst Because these Prot. manifestliâ— acknowledg that their pretended church is not the true câ—urch of God pag. 62 The 6. DemoÌ„st Because English Prot by their owne testimonies are rotorius heretiques pag. 65 The 7. Demonst Because English Prot. by their owne writiâ—ges are scismatiques pag. 78 The 8 Demonst Becauâ—e the publique Prot. seruice is false hereticall iustlie condemned and damnable by their owne doctrin pag. 85. The 9. Demonst Because these Prot. by their owne testimonies are manifest dessemblers wilful deceiuers seducers lyers and periured in matters of Religion pag. 91. The 10. Demonst. Because these Prot by their owne testimonies are generallie most vild â—iâ—â—ed impious and gracelâ—s people pag. 106 The 11. Demonst Because English â—rot by their owne writinges are not onlie enemies to the temporall princes claime of supremacie in ecclesiastical causes but deny also his soueraignitia in matters temporall pag. 112. TO OVR MOST MIGHTIE SOVERAIGNE KING IAMES AND ALL HIS MOST HONORABLE NOIBLITIE MOST MIGHTIE KINGE and MOST honorable Lordes as among humane and naturall Combinations non are greater more generall and binding then those of one nature nation and kindred Soe in nature nothinge can bee more vnnaturall then vnworthily to dissolue violentlie to seperate or destroy these vnions soe inuiolably to bee preserued All persecuted Catholicks of this kingdom armen vnited and comprehended in mankinde equally as you or the most renowned of you or other protestants They are of the same nation our best belowed England english with you And verie late and new would that persecuting protestants disceÌ„t appeare whoe could truely say hee hath noe preist or Catholicke of his familie which in this longe and greuous persecution hee persecuteth not and himselfe in them If any man obiect that Religion for which they suffer is of an heauenly and high or nature religing and binding not only man to man but man to his God and maker by the greatest felatie and homadge must answeare by yout one proceedings This is soe far from excusinge your persecutions that it vtterly accuseth in all true Iudgment more condemneth them For your doctors assure vs that the church of Christ cannot bee without true discipline to punish and correct offendors and make yt an vnseparable note thereof yett your same protestant both lawes writers and proceedings are witnesses that your preteÌ„ded Examples watrant and power to punish as you doe the ReuereÌ„d preists and other Catholicks of this kingdom are by manie hundred yeares to yonge to make your Religion soe old and powerable that yt may safelie and securely persecute your Mother church of Rome that brougt vs forth to Christ whose obedient and dutifull children you and all others ought to bee That claymed authoritie by which you afflict vs neuer receaued life vntill the decaying time of kinge Henry the eight And then your soe named Archbishop Parker Statut. An. 24. vel 25. Henric. 8. Math park in antiquit Britannic in Henr. 8. Ioan Bal. l. descrâ—ptor Brit. in Augustino fol. 34. 35. writeth that the popes power and Religion had raigned in England aboue neyne hundred yeares From the first conuersion of this english nation by S. Augustine as hee meaneth and an other of your stiled protestant Bishops in the words is witnes Augustinus Romanus Benedictini sodaliâ—ij monachus à Gregorio primo ad Anglosaxones papistica fide initiandos Apostolus mittitur Augustine a Roman monke of the company of Benedict was sent from Gregory the first an Apostle to instruct the English Saxons in the papisticall faithe And to proue this faith was then Bal. supr fol. 34. receaued hee addeth Ethelbertus Rex Romanismum cum adiunctis superstitionibus suscepit Kinge Ethelbert receaued Romanisme or Romiâ—h Religion with the superstitions adioined For soe your writers terme that sacred doctrine Your blodye lawe against the venerable preists of that holie church and profession is of noe greater Antiquitie then the seuen and twenteth yeare of the Raigne of Queene Elizabeth Statut. An. 27. Elizab. cap. and then but the Edict of a woman not much powerable in spirituall busines Yett Romane preisthood must needes bee as auncient as Romane Religion Which your owne cited Author Bal. supr fol. 35 pag. 1. farther warranteth in this maner Augustinus introduxit altaria vestimenta vasa sacra reliquias ceremoniarum codices quae omnia cum benedictione Petri miserat ei Gregorius Nam primum eorum studium erat circa missarum oblationes sedes episcopales ac decimaâ— ob id coactâ synodo mandauit Romanus vbique consuetudines seruari Augustine brought in altares vestiments holy vessels Relicks and bookes of ceremonies all which with the blessing of Peter Gregorie had sent vnto him For their first or cheife studie was about the oblations of masses episcopall Sees and Tithes And therefore assemblinge a synode hee commaunded the Romane customes to bee kept euery where Then if besides our seruice and Ceremonies as the Romane and commaunde of that Mother church Altares masse and sacrifice were then in vse our preisthood could not bee wanting for a principall doctor in your church with publick allowance writeth VVee cannot dislike the Morton Appeale pag. 162. l. 2. cap. 6. sect 1. Reinolds conf pag. 550. sentence of D. Reynaldes concerning the mutuall Relation and dependance betweene an Altar and sacrifice But graunt that Altare doth as naturally and necessarily inferr a sacrifice as a shryne doth a Saint a father a sonne And hee addeth thus Cardinall Bellarmine said truly Viz sacrifice preisthood are Relatiues Then if your doctors doctors Reynolds and Morton with their approuers approue this doctrine they must approue also the antiquitie and honor of our sacred
preisthood which your new learninge and womanly diuinitie haue pronownced treasonable And your present protestant Archbishop and all others directors of M. Mason teaching that all Archbishops Mâ—son episâ— dedicator of Canterbury before your first pretended and protestantlie made Bishop Matthew parker were from S. Mason in câ—nsâ—crat of Matthew parker Suecliffe pag dâ—â—ell pag. 4. 5. Feild l of the church Masâ—n supr Augustine consecrated after the Romane maner and otherwise then you practise must bee of the same opinion for our preists were made by them And as D. Sutclisfe D. Feild M. Mason and others testifie by this forme Receaue power to offer sacrifice for the quick and the deade which is now vsed in the church of Rome in which noe treason but much spirituall power and honor is conteyneth And such as it enforceth your present Ministery by all pretence Statut. An. 27 Elizab cap 1. Mâ—sm Sutclâ—â—eild sup c. they can to clayme though with note of treason their callinge from that ordination And such that it maketh the lawful soe ordered to bee soe honorable that a cheife doctor in your Religion hath written of them in thes most D Couell def of hooker pag. 87 reuerend termes â—o thes parsons God imparteth power ouer his misticall bodye which is the societie of soules and ouer that naturall which is himselfe for the knittinge of bothe in one which Antiquitie doth call the making of Christs bodie By blessinge visible elements it Couell sup pag. 105. maketh them inuisible grace it giueth daily the holy ghost it hath to dispose of that flesh which was giuen for the life of the worlde and that blood which was powred out to redâ—eme soules Couell sup pag. 87 88. 91. it is a power which neither prince nor potentate kinge nor Caesar on earth can giue Then this state a function soe honorable with God and renowned in his holie church by the sentence of your owne doctors may not bee condemned for a state of Treason And soe manie Reuerend preists aboue one hundred and twentie besides diuers of Religious orders miserablie tortured and putt to death for that onelie cause in Englang since that Edics of Queene Elizabeth were not Traytors and malefactors but happie Saints and blessed Martyrs And your protestant persecution in puttinge soe manie the fourth third part or more of that little companie to that cruell death with other manifold Afflictions vppon your contrie Catholicks hath giuen occasion for straungers to thinke and a famous protestant amonge you to write in this maner The sufferings and S. Edwyne Sandes in his Booke Relation of the state of Religion cap. 31. Martyrdomes of English Catholicks in thes times are accoÌ„pted to the height of Neroes Dioclesians persecutions and the sufferings on their side both in meritts of cause in extremitie of Torments and in constancie and patience to the renowned martyrs of that heroicall church age Which noe man can denie if hee consider how manie hundred yeares wee enioined peace honor renowne aboue the third part of the possessions and reuenewes of this kingdome with all Bishopricks Monasteries and church liuings with their priuiledges and prerogatiues Hollnish hist. in will Conq Speed ib. Booke of Domesday c. And now are not onelie spoiled and depriued of them all but stiled branded and reproached with such Infamous titles additioâ—s slaunders and miseries as neuer any such example can bee produced of like and soe longe persecutions prosecuted against the auncient possessioners of Religion and religeous preeminences by soe late and new inuention by straungers or enemies much lesse by contrimen add professors of Christianitie And yett his maiesties regall sentence is my minde was K speach in parlam 19. of marrh An. 1603. euer free from persecution or thrallinge of my subiects in matters of conscience And againe Correction without instruction which as before you cannot sufficientlie giue vnto vs is but tirannie And writinge against Contadus vorstius the dutche hereticke proueth that if Catholicks should bee in error yett they are soe far from deseruing persecution and persecution of such nature that their case needeth not fraternall or frendly correption or admonition The wordes of his Censure bee thes If the subsect of vorstius his heresies DeclaratioÌ„ An. D. 1612. in the cause of D. Conrud vorst pag. 46. 47. had not beene grownded vppon questions of an higher qualitie then touching the number and nature of the sacraments the point of iustification of meritts of purgatorie of the visible heade of the church or any such matters as are in controuersie at this day betwixt the papists vs wee doe freely professe wee should neuer haue troubled our selues with the busines in such fashion And yett all which was done therin was but a gentle and frendlie Admonition without any breache of peace leaque or amitie with that people Isaac Casaub resp ad epist. Cardi Per. in praefat Feild l. of the church Your Champion Casaubou that hath priuiledge soe often to call his doctrine the faith of our kinge the faith of the english church telleth you that thes controuersies cannot bee determined without a generall councell to whome D. Feild subscribeth and attributeth onely to that power to define and punish for such things And next to that yeeldeth primarie doth of Iudgment and to bee obeyed to the church of Rome his Feild supr l. 4. cap. 5. words bee thes Yt is more to bee respected and reuerenced then the authoritie of catholicke doctors and Bishops or other apostolicke churches Casaubon well knowinge the weakenes Casaubon supr of your cause addeth first because you haue noe hope of a generall cowncell that soe greate libertie of writinge one against an other might cease againe hee wisheth that seueris legibus â—trinque coerceretur that it were brideled on each side with seuere lawes Then you know by your owne doctors and Iudgments how greate and not to bee named offence it is with seuere lawes or edicts to commaunde and execute soe vndue and rigourous persecutions against them whome you cannot Iudge or condemne not being condemnable But because after soe manie humble and earnest suites and petitions english Catholicks can finde noe hope of other triall but to make their professed Enemies in this case and persecutors their Masters teachers accusers Iudges and and sentencers I am enforced to accept that moste vnequall and vnreasonable conflict to make your owne present protestant writers and proceedings Iudges betweene them and vs in their owne cause knowinge they dare not LactaÌ„t firdiuin insti l. 4. de vera sapient ca. 12. Morton in appeale ep dedicat with any impudencie denye against the light reason and the christian philosopher that it is an inuincible argument to proue truthe which is graunted or made by enemies themselues especiallie seing by their common Harolde Doctor Morton they haue publicklie proclaimed yt in thes wordes The assistance of learned aduersaries wee
admitt for the greatest reason of satisfaction For if it bee held an excellent point of phisicke ex vipera theriacâ—m to turne poâ—son into an Antidote against poyson and in God accompted an highe degree of vengeance to turne the Egyptians against the Egyptians and in Dauid celebrated as a principall matter of triumphe to cutt of Goliah his heade with his owne sworde and in Christ obserued as an vnansweareable matter of conuiction to iudge the euill seruant by his owne mouthe and acknowledged in S. Paule as the moste expedite meanes of confutation of the men of Crete to oppose against them their owne c. And yett to giue them more aduantage I wil demonstrate onelie by those english writers and proceedings of their protestant Religion which haue beene printed published or allowed amonge them synce his maiesties cominge into England and principallié within the first sixe or seuen yeares thereof that english Catholicks soe greuously punished for refusinge to communicate with their contrie protestants in sacraments seruice sermons or exercises of their Religion cannot doe yt by their owne Iudgments nor they exact yt without moste greuous deadelie and damnable syn And because I freelie acknowledge myselfe a preist of the Romane church and offer to defend or proue against all protestants or other Enemies the moste honorable dignitie of that sacred function And your proceedings propose oathes to trie the loialtie of english preists and Catholicks knowinge that wee will rather suffer deathe and all miseries as wee haue done then to sweare any the leaste things which wee thinke vntrue Beinge now come to my decaying time tree and fistie yeares of age doe take and leaue behinde mee as a memoriall of my Innocencie this ensuing oathe and desire it bee named An oathe of a Catholicke preist his true alleadgeancie to kinge and contrye Humblie submittinge my Iudgment in all religeous doctrine with all true ChristiaÌ„s to our mother church of Rome a Rule Kings spâ—acâ— in hâ—â—â— parlament to all both in doctrine and ceremonies as his maiesties publicke censure is I protest in verbo veritatis takinge God and the whole Court of heauen to wittnes that I neuer committed in deed word or consent any treason or conspiracie either against our kinge Iames his maiestie whose moste dutifull and obedient subiect in all ciuill obedience I humblye acknowledge myselfe and soe entreate to bee accepted of him or against Queene Elizabeth his predecessor or any forreyne prince in whose dominion I haue lyued And I call againe God and the Court of heauen to wittnes that I neuer committed against this kingdome of England my dearest contry or anyother state or prouince where I haue lyued or my parson in them lyuing or deceased murther theft Rapine violence vsury oppression enchaâ—nâ—mâ—nt sorcerye fornication addultery or other carnaâ—l act with any creature periurye false testimoniâ— gluttonie drunkennes or any greate or scandelous sinne to my knowledge disgracefâ—lly punishable by the lawes of England of which â— haue beene a student and by the grace of God giuen in my holy Religion I hope intend and purpose soe to perseuer all my life Soe helpe me God and his holy Saincts You see how confidentlie I haue sworne such an oathe of fidelitie and Innocencie from offence concerninge temporall Regiment or dutie of a subiect to his soueraigne as I stand in doubt whether any of your pretended Cleaâ—gie protestant will second mee therein or noe And yett there is noe matter against your Religion conteyned in yt as your soe named newe oathe of alleadgeance comprehendeth against the Pope and church of Rome as they haue censured to whome soe greate respect as before is due by your owne doctors sentences But I am out of all doubt that manie reuerende and learned preists of this kingdome will in Innocencie add to that which I haue begun And all the rest of that consecrated companie still sufferringe for that most glorious and holy cause will bee able to performe as much in that kinde as any temporall Soueraigne can in conscience exact of a spirituall and cleargie man and more then your best and moste selected Bishops or Ministers will assume to doe For matters of Religion this treatise will bee our warrant that wee must continue our vnitie with our Mother church of Rome and not with those whoe by their owne Iudgments and testimonies are Hereticks Scismaticks damnably seducers and seduced and such as by manie other titles by their owne conclusions are men not to bee communicated with in busines of Religion except men would willfullie incurre damnation Such as your moste allowed doctors writters are most manifestlie proued in this worke by their owne writings Therfore I craue pardon that the harshenes or distastfull euidence of thes protestant demonstrations bee not imputed vnto mee but to your owne protestant and puritane doctors Authors and publishers of them to the worlde for by their authorities and in their name I am to dispute proceede in euerie Argument and conuiction And because I desire to bringe securitie to all Readers that noe english protestant or puritane can by their owne Religion take iust exception against the weakest Conclusion of this booke I haue not handled any matters in yt but such as by their owne agreement ar essentiall materiall and fundamentall in Religion For how soeuer otherwise they disagree and ar not easelie to bee distinguished yett in thes soe necessarie and vnseperable things of true Religion as they tell vs they all agree D. Georg. Abb. ag Hill pag. 101. 102. 94. 106. 236. 237. 347. Doue persuas pag. 32. Morton full satisf pag. 18. The words of your present Archbishop of Canterbury ar thes protestants puritanes did neuer differ in any point of substance in substantiall points of faithe there is noe variance amonge vs. And this hee affirmeth seuen times at the leaste in one booke The protestant Bishop of Peterborough writeth thus in maâ—ters of Religion wee all agree D. Morton D. Sutcliffe D. Willet Wotton Middleton Powell the Sutel ag kâ—ll pag. 42 Willet Antib pag. 15 WottoÌ„ def of Perk pag 28. Middl pag 201. Povvel ag ap ep pag. 48. 45. Abrâ—dg Edw. holy knight pag. 103. of his 〈◊〉 Puritanes in their Abridgment with others too manie to bee cited are of the same opinion And it is soe generallie allowed amonge them that they tell vs non but such as they terme Papists Goliathes vncircumcised Philistines lyers and will affirme the contrarie Your circumcised knight as hee will bee named writeth thus our formalists and Presbyterians how soeuer they bee somewhat different in habite yett are they vnited in harte readie at all times to Ioyne in battell against any vncircumcised Philistine that dares contest against the vniformitie of their Rogers pref to the booke of articles faith Your publick glosser vppon your approued articles writeth in this maner The verie brethren themselues doe write that in regard of the common groundes of Religion and the
greate prosperiâ—y seuen and thirtie yeares and odd monetheâ— professing voluntary pouertie Went to Rome where in the habit of a Religeous man hee ended his life in poore estate And Ethelburga his wife became a vayled Nunne was made Abbâ—sse of Barkinge neare london wherein shee ended her life The Brethren of Inaâ— were kenten whose sonne was Aldome Abbat of Malmesbury and Bishop of Sherborne And if wee desire Example from the the Norman Race Kinge William the first by by some syrnamed Conqueror may bee added both to encouradge vs to continue in the Religion of the church of Rome and to bee fearefull either to persecute or forsake yt of him his affaires this Theater entreateth thus His holy father Pope Alexander tke seconde sett in a Theater sup pag 418. n. 19. foote sending twoe Cardinalls and a Bishop from the See Apostolick in a Councell degraded stigand Archbishop of Canterbury EgelWine Bishop of the easte Angles besides diuers other Bishops and Abbots of the english nation depriued for noo euident cause but onely to giue place to the Normans in fauour of the kinge Kinge William gaue his oathe vppon the holy Euangelists and the relicks pag. 421. of S. Albanâ— the Martyr Pope Gregoire sendeth hither his bulls against the mariâ—d cleargie Pope Gregorie in all generall Synode excluded the maryed preists from execution of their holy offices and pag. 422. forbad they lay men to hearâ— their Masses our Lords body and the blood of our Lord consecrated by preists To shewe how iustly and seuerely God punished the hinderance of Masseâ— and profession of that Religion speaking of the destroying of Religeous howses and churches hee writeth thus Kinge William pulleth downe pag. 421. 36. mother churches from mans vse and Gods seruice in Hamtâ—hire novv new forest Richard hiâ— second sonne there dyed goared vvith a deare or blasted vvith a pestilent ayre and Rusus his other 〈◊〉 46. sonne mistaken for a deare shott through vvith an Arrovve by vvalter Tyrâ—ll Henry likevvise his grandchilde by Robert Curtoise persuing the chase vvas struken vvith a bough in the Iavves and as Absalon leâ—t hanging vntill hee died tâ—es punishments vvith a straunge earth quake and other straunge hinges ascribed for taking away vse of Gods seruice And speaking of his greate repentance and vertuous end hee writeth thus Hee pag. 425. n. 65. 66. 64. builded many religeous howses moste certayne it is that in the verie same place Where kinge Harolds standard was pitched and vnder which himselfe was slayne there William the Conqueror laid that foundation Battle Abbâ—y dâ—dicating yt to the Holy Trinitie and to S. Martine that there the monkes might pray for the soules of Harold and pag. 423. the rest that were slayne in that place hee repenteth him of his crueltie in England doth not aâ—count yt his owne but Gods Hee giueth his Crowne and ornaments therto belonging to the monkes pag. 422. 423. of Saint Stephen in Cane Hee giueth to his sonne Henry Beauclerâ—ke onely 5000. prounde without any contry prophâ—syinge how hee should bee heire to all Thâ— dying kinge for kinge must dye hauinge pag. 424. nu 56. pag. 223. raised vp his weake body vppon the pilloâ—es hard the sounde of the greate Bell in the metropolitane church of Saint Gâ—â—uis neare Roan demaundinge the cause one replyed that it did then ringâ— primâ— to our ladiâ— â—herevpon with greate deuotion lifting his eyes towards heauen spreadinge abroade his handes I commend myselfe saith hee to that blessed ladie Mary Mother of God that shee by her holy prayers may reconcile mee to her most deare owne our Lord Iesus Christ and with thes wordes yeelded vp the Ghost Their protestant Archbisop Parker is lately with applaose new printed and speaking of the Romane Religion and authoritie abrogated by the new lawes of kinge Henry the 8. writeth thus Parker Antiq. Britan p 329. His legibus by thes lawes the power of the Pope that had continued in England aboue 900. yeares hee meaneth from the tyme of our Conuersion by S. Augustine sent hether by Pope and Saint Gregory was ouerthrownâ— And M. Mason MasoÌ„ booke of Consecr in M. Park with his directing protestant Bishops assure vs that this Matthew Parker was allowed for Archbishop of Canterbury by other order then any his predecessors in the See of Canterbury Therefore wee may not forsake the Religion of Rome soe embraced and honored by all Christian kinges princes Bishops and true beleeuing subiects vntill this time of protestants by their owne testimonies Againe I argue in this maner Noe Religion that is soe farr from truthe and to bee iustifiable for good and holy that the cheifest professors and doctors thereof acknowledge generally that it is false erroneous or fallible may bee communicated withall But the English parlament protestant Religion is such Therefore not to bee communicated with The maior proposition is euidently true for as thes protestants haue taught vs before noe communion is to bee had in spirituall things with men of a false and deceatefull Religion for such by noe possibilitie can bee the infallible and most vndoubted word reuelation of God which by noe power can either bee false or doubtfull But the phantasticall deuise Imagination and humane hereticall Inuention of seducers The minor proposition is soe generally graunted by the protestants of England That D. Morton Morton Apolog part 2. pag. 315. with publicke priâ—iledge absolutely for them all writeth thus Thesis generalis nullus est omnino in ecclesia cuius Iudicium est infallibilis authoritatis Yt is a generall maxime And so to bee receaued of them all That there is non at all in the church whose iudgment is of vnfallible aâ—thoritie D. Willet giueth this testimonie In England will Antilog praef angl pa. 71. 120. 150 43. Praefat. to the Reader supr the temporall prince is Gouernor Ruler cheefe Ouerseer and Steward of the church to whose Iudgment and redresse the reformation of Religion belongeth Yet thee addeth thus neither hee nor any in their church haue any priuiledge from error And this is soe manifest by the often chaungings and choppings of their Religion by kinge Henry 8. kinge Edward 6. and Queene Elizabeth that to goe noe further their errors and contradictions defended and published by their owne statutes are shamefull to bee recited and soe euidently knowne that their protestant Bishop of Peterborough Doue persuasion with others doe freely acknowledge yt that all protestant princes with their church had erred and seduced others Or yf against all hope or possibilitie in S. Edwyne sands opinion wee Relation of Religion might expect a generall councell by their doctrine which not onely hee but all protestants confining spirituall iurisdiction to call councells onely to the temporall and ciuill authoritie of particulâ—r princes and contryes wherein they rule and noe farther much lesse ouer all nations Christian as the Pope claymeth yett to
and supreame commaunding authoritie ouer all other churches parsons and as due and respectiue obedience as now yt doth as these protestants them selues are wittnesses against them selues and by such pretended excuse of reuolt and contempt of superioritie and gouernment and for the inferior subiect guiltie or accused to vsurpe power ouer the Superior and lawfull Iudge all heresies scismes treasons rebellious and disobediences may bee mayntayned and all Regiment and Rulers both spirituall and temporall bee reiected and ouerthrowne And is the like or worse in effect then that which his maiestie speaketh of the presbyteâ—iall discipline in these wordes lacke and â—om and Will and Diâ—k vvill censure the kinge and his Conferenâ—â— aâ—â—ampt pag. 79. counsâ—ll and all their proceedings at their pleasure And from hence alsoe both the second and third propositions are directly proued For by this the second proposition That Catholicks in forsaking communion vvith the church of Rome to communicate vvith english protestants should forsaâ—â— a church by the doctrine of diuers and credible â—uthorities assisted by God from error is euideytlie true for not onelie the present doctors of the present Romane church soe teach but it was soe taught as this protestants assure vs by the learned and holy fathers and popes of that sacred church when by their graunt it vvas in her florishinge and best estate and a rule to all both in doctrine and ceremonies To which I add the testimonie of D. Downame telling vs that in those times Down l. 2. Antichr pag. 107. Ormâ—r hereticks though Bishops recanting did svveare to meyntayne thâ—t faith which the Bishop church of Rome professed M. Ormerod saith S. Leo that glorious Saint doctor did teache that God did assist direct that sea in decrees And to maintaine yt by protestaÌ„ts that this was the coÌ„mon and receaued doctrine of that vnsported time whereas they now tell vs a generall councell is highest iudge D. Powell writeth thus Powell l. 1. Antichrist p. 230. 231. Calixtus Pope in that best time defined that all Bishops though gathered in a generall Councell shall fullfill the will of the church of Rome they which doe not this are pronouÌ„ced of Pope Pelagius to keepe a false Conciliable and not a Councell Pope Damasus vvrote that it is not lavvfull for the Bishops to doe any thinge against the decrees of the Bishops of Rome Where vppon according to this generall and primatiue doctrine by protestants relation their Bishop of Bils true differ pag. 66. 67. Winchester hath written in this maner The Canon of the primatiue churche made euery thinge voide that vvas done vvithout the Bishop of Rome The canon of the primatiue church forbad any Councell to bee called vvithout his consent Therefore D. Feild directeth vs what to doe in Feild pag. 20â— this case in these wordes Wee must obey vvithout scrupulous questioninge vvith all modestie of mynde and reuerence of bodie vvith all good â—llovvance and acceptation and repose in the vvorde of them that teache vs vnles they teache vs any tâ—ings vvâ—ich the authoritie of the higher Suâ—erior controlleth Therefore because thus protestants haue soe confidently assured vs that the Pope and church of Rome is our highest Iudge in authoritie and superioritie in this busines wee must still vvithout scrupulous question vvith all modestâ—ie reuerence good allovvonce acceptation and repose obey them still communicaâ—e with them And forsake all spirituall communion withall protestants and others departed and sepaâ—ated from them And from hence alsoe the third proposition that to adhâ—re to the church of Rome in time of controuersie vvas and is a token or signe of a true catholick is euidently proued An D. Downame graunteth yt to haue beene the opinion of the primatiue fathers S. Augustine and victor vticensis in Afrike vvere of opinion that Down l. 1. Antichrist pag. 106. 105. to adhere to the church of Rome vvas a marke of a true Catholick in those times And that it must soe continue for euer is proued by thes protestants before To which I add this protestant Demonstration followinge Euery forsakinge of Communion and communicating which by protestants Iudgment doth or would make men guiltie of all kinde of spirituall disobedience is to bee auoidâ—d But for Catholicks to forsake communion with the church of Rome and communicate with protestants by their owne doctrine is such therefore to bee auoided The maior proposition is euidently true for seing to bee disobedient in any one spirituall dutie is wicked and abominable much more damnable must it needs bee to bee guiltie of all such synnes The minor proposition is proued by D. Feild and the publick protestant authoritie that gaue priuiledge to his writinge for entreatinge of the diuers and distinct kindes of spirituall Fâ—ild pag. 202. l. 4. cap. 5. obedience hee writeth thus Hither wee may referr those different degrees of obedience which vvee must yeeld to them that commaunde and teache vs in the church of God excellently Waldens doctr fidei l. 2. art 2 3 pag. 27. described by waldensis wee must saith hee reuerence and respect the authoritie of all catholick Doctors whose doctrine and writings tâ—e church allovveth Wee must more regarde the authoritie of catholick Bishops more then thus the authoritie of the Apostolick churches amongst them more especially the church of Rome of a generall councell more then all thes By which doctrine of english protestants it is euident that all men communicating with them in Religion are culpable in all kinde of spirituall disobedience and if the degrees of obedience to commaunders in the church of God bee as thes men assure vs excellently described by Doctors and catholick Bishops vnder the Pope and the Pope is cheefest in thes degrees and as before is proued by them noe councell can bee either generall or allowable without his allowance and approbation by forsakinge communion with the Pope and beinge disobedient vnto him wee should bee guiltie of a spirituall disobedience Therefore when wee are assured by thes men them selues that now wee lyue in all true spirituall obedience and contrary to their commaunding and supreame byndinge instruction noe authoâ—itie on earthe is to bee obeyed in such things but rather to bee obedient and subiect it selfe to them the pretended instruction of protestants to vnlearned catholicks is not to bee termed instruction but destruction and their pesecution against vs for this our soe religious iust deniall to communicate with them in Religion shall bee censured by his maiestie and their Bishopp of Durham and not by mee his maiesties wordes in publick parlament in this question are thus You my Lord of Durham said very learnedly in Serm. An. 1603. 19. of March before the K. Kings speac in parlam 1. Iacob your sermon to day that correction vvithout instruction is but tyrannye And how can England euer an inferior subordinate and dependinge church take vppon yt power to instruct the highest spirituall authoritie
or lesse in dignitie and Christ offering his body and blood for the quicke and deade and giuing power to those whome he made preists to doe that which hee then did Hoc facite doe you this which I doe preists also must needs haue that power and that power be the proper office of Holy preisthood For at that time were the Apostles made preists otherwise we doe not finde where any power is communicated vnto them to be ministers of this soe commaunded and recommended sacracrament And otherwise S. Thomas not present when the wordes of binding and losing were spoken vnto the Apostles was not a preist in the doctrine of protestants admitting nothinge but scriptures in such cases Neither can those wordes whosâ— syns you forgiue they are forgiuen and whose syns you retayne they are retayned confer that power which belongeth to preists if they were not to offer sacrifice but onely to minister sacraments in the Religion of protestants which doe not teach that either the preist or sacrament but the faith of the Receauer forgiueth syns And soe essentiall it is to preisthood to offer sacrifice that those which in our languadge we call preists sacrifice and altar bee in other tonges things inseperable and Correlatiues both in name and deed Thusiastis Thusia Thusiastâ—rion sacrificer sacrifice and place where there sacrificer or preist offereth sacrifice Which inseperable connexion betweene sacrifice and altar preist and sacrifice D. Morton before acknowledgeth in these wordes We cannot dislike tâ—â— sentence of D. Reynoldes concerning the mutuall MortoÌ„ App. pa. 16â— l. 2. ca. 6. sect 1. Reinolds confer pag. 550. Relation and dependance betweene an altare and sacrifice But graunt that altar doth as naturally and necessarily inferr a sacrifice as a shrine doth a Saint a father a sonne And further these Cardinall Bellarmine said truly viz sacrifice and preistood are Relatiues Therefore seing Relatiues bee inseperable preisthood and to offer sacrifice cannot bee deuided but inuiolably vnited and coniected together Therefore the holy generall Councell denied such by these protestants before defineth thus The forme Conc. Flor. in vnion of preisthood is this Receaue power to offer sacrifice in the church for the liuing and deade in the name of the father and of the sonne and of the holy ghost Neither is this by these protestants other doctrine then was taught from the beginninge but it was euer soe constantly and generall taught in the church that it was adiuged and condemned for heresie in Aërius to deny yt D. Felds wordes thereof are these Arius condemned the custome of the church in Feild p. 138 l 3. cap. 29. Couell exaÌ„ pag. 114. naminge the deade at the Altâ—r and offerringe the Sacrifice of Eucharist for them for this his â—ash and inconsiderate boldnes and presumption in condemning the vniuersall church of Christ hee was iustâ—y condemned Therefore protestants haue noe preisthood they are iustly condemned for hereticks by their owne censure and the Romane sacrificing preisthood both by the present and primatiue vniuersall church of Christ is most holy Which is further confirmed by these protestants authorities first their allowed greeke church censureth these The doctrine Feild of that church Gennad Schol. def 5 c. 3. Feild p. 238 Hull Rom. pol pa. 86. Middleton papistom p. 64 45. 46. 51. 47. 48. 49. Relation of Religion Casau resp ad Card. per p. 51. 52. c of purgatorie prayer sacrifice for the deade was a tradition of the Apostles equall with the worde of God as D. Feild writeth M. Hull saith Leo S. Leo the Pope appointed Masses for the deade M. Middleton saith It was a tradition of the primatiue church receaued from the fathers to pray for the deade and begg mercye of God for them the deade were prayed for in the publick liturgies of Basile Crisostome and Epiphanius And their Relator wittnesseth that these Masses and forme of sacrifice were publick in the church Therefore M Isaac Casaubon calling yt the Religion of our kinge and saying he writeth by the kings commaund and from his mouth writeth these neither is the kinge ignorant nor denâ—eth that the fathers of the primatiue church did acknowledge one sacrifice in Christian Religion that succeeded in the place of the sacrifices of Moses lawe D. Morton goeth higher euen to the Rabbins before Christ graunting with his frend MortoÌ„ app in sacrifice c. MortoÌ„ app pa. 395. l â— Theodore Bibliander that they taught this sacrifice of the Christians and called yt Thoda And hee addeth these These testimonies of Rabbi Cahana Rabbi Iuda Rabbi Simeon are such if yetâ— they were such that they make soe directly for the Romish article of transsubstantiatioÌ„ that the most Romish Dostors for the space of allmoste a thousand yeares after Christ did not in soe expresse termes publish this mistery to the world They are more playne and pregnant for transsubstantion then are the sayings of transsubstantiators themselues pag. 396. Hitherto D. Morton And therefore allthough I now dispute for a sacrificing preisthood and externall sacrifice not of transubstantiation or what it is in particular that being impertinent to my present purpose yett because D. Couell with publick allowance before hath told M. Morton that preists to vse Couell def pag. 8â— his wordes Haue power imparted to them by God ouer Christs naturall body which is himselfe which antiquitie doth call the making of Christs bodie it hath to dispose of that flesh which was giuen for the life of the worlde and that blood which pag. 105. was powred out to redeeme soules And M. Casaubon graunteth for our kinge and their protestaÌ„ts church that the sacrifice offered by preists is Christs bodye to vse his wordes the same obiect Casaub sup pag. 50. 51. and thinge which the Romane church beleeueth Therefore I say because D. Morton acknowledgeth himselfe but an Alephbethorian in MortoÌ„prâ—aÌ„ Hebrue not able to Iudge of those Rabbines and I may not dispute but by protestants his fâ—end and fellowe protestant Franciscus Starearus Hebraicae literaturae callentissimus most excellent in Hebrue learninge as the Franck fort protestant allowers of those Rabbines name hâ—m Praefat. prot in p. Gâ—l FraÌ„â—â— furâ—i An. 1602. and they themselues are wittnesses doe call those and other testimonies of the Rabbines before Christ. Irrefragabilia testimonia vndeniable testimonies of the kingdome of Christ that all men except madd against the Religion of Christ might knowe the truthe Therefore by all kinde of Testimonies in the Iudgment of these protestants as scriptures traditions Councells the whole church of Christ holy fathers and the protestant proceedings themselues the sacrificing preistood of the Romane church is Stat. An. 8. Eliz. cap. 1. Foxe in Ed. 6. Regist eâ—d pereg in LoÌ„d Reinol Caluinot Resp lustit english minâ—sters in state of treason protestaÌ„tâ—â—n felony by their doctrine Method pataren l. decret ab init Iams Manuscrip in Canâ—trig lawfull sacred and moste reuerent And
corruptions of our church and practise of the prelates as appeareth by the testimonie of the deane of the Chapell And yett his cunninge hath serued him and his Conscience suffereth him to bee a greate Bishop Offer sup pag. 29. D. G. Abbot ag Hill p. 101. 102. 94. 106. 236 237. Povvell ag Apol. epiâ—â— pa. 52 c. 48. Doue persuas pa. 32 Suâ—cl against kell pag 42. Middleton pap pa. 201 Will Antil pa 15. p 20 â—ovvell â—oÌ„sider pa 17. Wottâ— dâ—f of Perk. p. 28. Feild pag. 170. Morton satisf p 18. Abridgm pag. 39. amonge them And thus it further followeth in that protestant Author Noe honâ—stie was vsed in that Relation it seemes by the whole manadgenge of yt that it vvas vnderâ—and plotted and procured by the prelates themselues abusing therein his maâ—estie and vsinge M. Galloway as an instrument in the matter to the end that they might haue the more colour for their intended proceedinge Wee haue hard before how constantly and vniformely both their Bishops parlamentarie and puritane protestants haue written that they all agree in all materiall and substantiall points and as their Archbishop of Canterbury absolutely affirmeth noe Goliath against tâ—em can proue the contrary And an other hath with publicke priuiledge these words none but Papists affirme tâ—at â—rotestants and puritanâ—s differ in substantiall points of fâ—â—theâ— and hee lyeth which saith tâ—ey differ in subsiautiall â—oints And such is the common and generall assertion both of the parlamenâ—arie and puritane protestants as is euident before and may appeare by these their Citations and others to many to bee related wâ—en they write against Catholicks charging them with their diuers intollerable essentiall materiall and fundamentall differences in Religion But when they dispute or write against themselues then if to bee hereticks is to differ in a materiall fundamentall or essentiall point as they write in these words Hereticks are neither simple infidells nor idolaters but obstinately â—rring in some fundament all point Protestants and puritans doe thus differ for either hath condemned others befor for Hereticks Therfore to affirme it is not a lye Bâ—t they which both affirme and deny it to serue their vse and delude their readers are prophane lyers and dissemblers in Religion and soe not to bee imitated but auoyded Againe the puritans condemne the protetestant Bishops for essentiall poynts and make them moste damned and hellish people together with their ministers and adherents as is manifest before And the protestant Bishops followers haue in diuers publicke canons made the state of puritans excommunication ipso ConstitutioÌ„ c. can ecclesiast An. 1604. can 3. can 4. can 5. can 6. caÌ„ 7. can 8. caÌ„ 9. can 10. can 11. can 12. can 4. can 5. can 6. can 7. câ—n 8. facto And to shew that they doe not thus Censure them for things not essentiall but verie essentiall materiall and fundamentall things questioned betweene them some of their opinions bee there thus expressed the worship in the church in England is corrupt superstitious vnlawfull repugnant to the scriptures and in sacraments The articles of their religion are erroneous their rites Antichristian gouernment of the church of england vnder his maiestie by Archbishops Bishops dâ—anes c. Antichristian and repugnant to the word of God The forme and maner of makinge and consecratinge Bishops â—reists and deacons is repugnant to the vvord of God They vvhoe are made Bishops preists or deacons in that forme are not lavvfully made nor ought to bee accompted either by themselues or others to bee truely either Bishops preists or deacons c. Therefore soe many Excommunications ipso facto in number seuen together with soe essentiall differences must needs bee materiall points putting a man as they think ordeyne out of the church and soe out of all hope of saluation as they haue taught before Further D. Couell setteth downe these protestants doctrine in this maner The Gouernment Couell ag Burg. p. 33. bâ— Elders and the Pressbitery is the expresse commaundement of God and as essentiall as either the worde or Sacraments And agâ—â—ne Tâ—e discipline Couell exaÌ„ pag. 36. is an essentiall note of the churche men are martyres in that quarrell as well as for the defence of any article of the Christian faithe M. Oâ—merod Ormer pict purit f. 4. relateth their opinion in this maner Certaine of the things which puritaneâ— stand vppon are such as that euery hayre of their â—eade were a life they ought to offor them for the defence of them Hee hath told vs before how they haue Ormer dial 1. reuiued allmost all old heresies and besides their opinions haue their tricks qualities and conditions Then if protestants differ not from them in any essentiall thinge they ioyne with them in those heresies They are to vse his words Apostolicks Aerians Popuzians Petrobrusians Floâ—inians Cerinthians Nazarens Beguardines â—biâ—nits Catababdiâ—es Catharists Iouinianists c. too mâ—ny to bee recited Therefore hee speaketh thus puritans differ from protestants in things fundamentall and substantiall puritans Ormerod dial 2. doe not agree with protestants in all matters of substance Therefore seing these men bee not papists they must needs bee notorious lyers and deceauers in spirituall things M. Parkes in his Epistle dedicatorie to their late Archbishop of Canterbury writeth thus The Creede Parkes epist dedicat it selfe which hath allwayes beene the very badge and Cognizance whereby to discerne and knowe the faithfull from vnbeleeuers Christians from heathens and Catholickes from hereticks is the mayne point in question Then they agree not in all things essentiall and fundamentall for besides this hee addeth puritanes seeke to vndermyne the foundation of faith Therefore speakinge Parkes p. 3. oâ— protestants and puritanes seducing tâ—e ignorant as though they agreed in all essentiall things hee writeth in these words To deceaue Parkes pag. 89. the worlde and make men beleeue there is agrâ—ement in all substantiall points they affirme that there is noe question amonge them of the Iacob reas epist. dedic truthe M. Iacob giueth this Censure Tâ—ey are vayne wordes of men vnaduised yea of corrupt mindes and studing to flatter which cease not to inculcate that the things in question are indifferent Iacob reas pag. 75. and arbitrary The matters in question are far from matters indifferent or arbitrarie but are in deede very greately importinge the common pag. 82. sup saluation These things are far from indifferent matters or small triflâ—s in the churches as some soâ—d men suggâ—st and â—ill reiterate tâ—ey are directly contrâ—â—y to Gods worde preiudiciall and dishonerable to Holy caâ—linge and pernitious to the soules of all the Christianâ— in the land Their Supplication Supplicat An 1606. Argum 5. Offer of Cons pa. 3. saâ—â—h their cause is â—hole Christ The protestant Authors of the offer of Conference say the prâ—positions offered to bee disputed contayne in them the nature of Christs true visible churche
the want of good workes is a knowledge and distinguishing signe belonginge to chaffe false disciples children of Sathan and vnbeleeuers to discerne them from the true beleeuers and seruants of God I argue thus Noe societie Congregation or companie of men which by their owne testimonies doe not onely want good workes but bee generally defiled with most heynous and greuous syns can bee the children of God true beleeuers or to bee communicated with in causes of Religion But the english protestants are in this condition Therefore not the true beleeuers true church or to bee communicated with in spirituall things The maior proposition is the common doctrine of all those protestant churches before remembred And the minor proposition of the impietie and wickednes of protestants is thus proued by their owne writings M. Hull speakinge of his fellowe protestants writeth thus These are the dayes whereof our Sauiour Hull Rom. polec prefâ—â— Christ and his Apostles soe longe agoe prophesied wherein charitie should waxe colde and faith should searce appeare wherein men should bee â—â—idebacks from Christ and Apostates from true Religion wherein they should bee louers of themselues couetous cursed speakers disobedient vntankefull vnholy true breakers false accusers despisers of them that are good traytors headie high minded louers of pleasures more them of God hauinge a shewe of Godlines but haue denyed the power thereof yea wherein men are become vsers newters temporisers Atheistes An other protestant writeth in these termes The protestans Cort. considâ—rat An. 1605. epist dâ—dicat Religion of England is much like an euill herbe which if it bee not speedely rooted vpp but suffered to spreade will soone ouerspreade the gardâ—ns of God with vice and impietie as there will scarcely Willet Antilog pa 28 hath these words Wee iustely complayne of the prophanes of these times and of the ouerflowinge of iniquitie euen where Religion is moste puerly professed Then that Religion must needs bee Parkes Apolog epist dedicat impuer by their former doctrine M. Parkes alsoe speakinge of protestants speaketh in this maner euery man maketh Religion the handemaide of his affections Weâ— are come to that declinge age of the worlde foretolde by the Apostle 2. Tim. 1. 2. 3. 4. wherein men should bee louers of themselues fastidious arrogant couetous maledicous immorigerous c. for euen such are these our times selfe loue hath banished sobrietie pridâ— humilitie malice charitie disobedience dutie dissention vnitie prophanesse sanctitie and in a 〈◊〉 sayned zeale true deuotion Concerninge the pretended ministers how far they are ouerwhelmed with wickednes is spoken befor To which I add these protestant testimonies M. Ormerod writeth thus The taunts and contumelies Ormer pict pur f. 3. l 4. of Ministers against Ministers are vnchristean they refuse to salute one an other but one spitteth in the face of an other wishinge the plaque of God to light vppon them saying they were damned Neither is this peculiar to english ministers for the protestant relator of religion writeth thus of forreyne ministers In the diuision Relation cap. 4â— of protestants into their factions the ministers haue soe behaued themselues that it threatneth a greate ruyne and calamitie neither is there any greate doubt but if any stay and agreement could bee taken with the turke all Germanie wers in daunger to bee in vproare within it selfe by intestine dissention To this lamentable extremitie hath the headines of the mininisters brought it But of their moste wicked both doctrine and behauiour against princes and common wealthe I will entreate hereafter In the meane time it iâ— allreadie euident that this moste vile and prophane state of wickednes is not in some few as may bee fownde amonge men of true Religion not lyuinge accordinge to the rules thereof But generall and vniuersall which must needs proceede from the nature of their pretended Religion it selfe hauing in yt and publishinge to the worlde to all men to vewe and followe soe many errors tendinge and leadinge vnto all libertie and licentiousnes of life and neither hauinge sacraments or any instrument of grace to preuent synnes and their occasions in any callinge or state of men marryed oâ— vnmaryed olde or yonge cleargie or laitie lyuinge or dyinge nor any one rule to warrant vnto them for true faith any one article which they hold whether in yt selfe it bee true or false all which more absurdities of such nature are demonstratiuely befor proued against them by their owne writings The 11. particular protestant demonstration for Catholicks iust Recusancie is Because the English protestants by their owne writings are not onely enemies to the temporall princes claime of supreamacie in ecclesiasticall causes aduauncing their Bishops and presbyteries aboue yt but deny alsoe his suuâ—ranitie in matters temporall by their consequences NOw lett vs come to those Questions for which soe many Catholicks and Religeous parsons haue suffered Martyrdome and moste greuous persecutions in the times of kinge Henry 8. Queene Elizabeth and our present Soueraigne kinge Iames the claymed supreame spirituall power of temporall princes in cause ecclesiasticall in this kingedome and that power and Authoritie concerning temporall princes which these english protestants affirme Catholickes doe giue to the Pope of the highest apostolicke See of Rome proued before by these protestants to bee supreame heade gouernor an earthe of Christs churche and greatest commaunding iudge in spirituall causes I am to proue in this demonstration That these protestant Bishops puritanes and presbyterie by their owne testimonies giue not soe much power and authoritie to the teÌ„porall prince as wee doe And yett arrogate challendge to themselues in their pretended Bishops and presbiterie more commaunde iurisdiction and authoritie ouer temporall kings and princes then Catholicke writers and scholes allowe or attribute to the Pope of Rome And that if the parlament had framed an oathe as much concerninge the power of their Bishops and presbiteries as their soe named Oathe of alleadgeance concerneth the Popes priuilâ—dges Noe protestant or puritane by the groundes of their Religion should coulde or might haue taken yt What they would or will doe in such a case I dare not vndertake for men soe conuicted before to bee by their owne testimonies most notorious dissemblers deceauers willfull seducers lyers periured and foresworne people in matters of Religion And this is made moste manifest that allthough they generally condemne their owne Religion for hereticall their seruice for damnable their ministery for Antichristian or none at all their supposed ordination for ridiculous The articles of their Religion for false and erroneous Their Canons and Censures to bee vngodly vnlawfull as is proued by themselues before and absolutely deny the kings supreamacie in most dauÌ„gerous degree as will be euideÌ„t against them by their owne writings in this Chapter yett contrary to all â—ruthe Religion consciencâ— and morall honestie they haue generally sworne protested subscribed vnto and doe practice to their owne damnation in these
Scismatici contra Episcopos non sunt audiendi Scismaticks are not to bee hard against Bishops M. Ormerod speaketh of them in this maner Ormer dial 2. They peâ—seuer in inueterate and olde Scisme which by the auntient fathers and protestants alsoe maketh heresie Therefore protestants are both scismaticks and hereticks M. Powell himselfe Povvell cons pa 11. 16 19. pag. 25. 35. 48. 52. a puritane writeth thus of them They are Scismaticall they are in scisme thâ—â—r caâ—e is â—â—ismaticall they haue pâ—anaticall giddinâ—s Sciâ—mes factions and innouation thâ—â— are soâ—ers â—f sâ—diâ—ion scisme and faction they are scismaticks they are guiltie of scisme M Parkes calleth them Scismaticall hereticall and sacriledgeous they are Parkes Apol â—pist ded headstronge in Scisme and hardened in error How the puritane protestants vppon the groundes of our english protestants haue condemned all protestaÌ„t churches to be scismatical against the church and Pope of Rome is related before and the protestant author of the Cert consid An. 1565. â—p dedicat booke named certaine considerations giueth this testimonie The protestants of England syn against God in their proceedings their Religion is sedâ—tious a sect Scisme it is much like to an euill herbe or vveâ—de vvhich if it bee not speedely rooted vp but suffered to spreade vvill soone ouerspreade the gardons of God vvitâ— vice and impietie as there will scarce beâ— any roume left for vertue and pietie And D. Couell a man of best temper in writing amonge them speaketh thus of Couell exâ—â— pag. 139. their english protestants The scismes and diuisions amongst vs haue made a number renounce their office Then if the protestant Ministers themselues haue thus obserued themselues to bee in Scismes and therevppon renounced their office and communion Catholickâ— may not now begyn to communicate with them thus by themselues condemned for Scismaticks The 8. particular protestant demonstration for Catholicks iust Recusancie is Because the publicke protestant Seruice at which they refuse to bee present and communicate in is false hereticall iustely condemned and damnable by their owne doctrine NOw to come to their preteÌ„ded church seruice it selfe at which because Catholicks moste iustely as before refuse to bee present and for such Recusancie or Refusall are moste vniustly and aboue the measure of punishment of the greatest and notorious syns excepting treasons and matters of state punished and afflicted being conteyned in that their soe called Communion Booke or Booke of common prayers I argue thus Noe man may communicate with Hereticks and Scismaticks especiallie in prayers and publicke seruice not onely inuented and vsed without the allowance of the true and lawfull pastors but directly opposite and repugnant to the highest spirituall authoritle and iurisdiction But the english protestants by their owne testimonies before are in this case Therefore not to bee communicated with in such prayers and seruice Secondly I argue thus noe new deuised order of prayer deuised by consortinge vnto and in it selfe conteyninge and approuinge a Religion contrary to holy scriprures both the written and vnwritten word of God generall Councells decrees and doctrine of the primatiue Popes and fathers and to all churches of Christendome both present and heretofore derogatorie both to the triumphant militant and patient church of Christ where â—ll sacraments and instruments of grace either are absolutely denyed oâ— soe vnduely and prophanely vsed that all grâ—ce by them is taken away from the lyuinge from them that die from Cleargie from laitie for the maried vnmaryed olde younge Ritch and pore and where there is not true ministery nor church to haue any hope of saluation in may bee communicated withall especially if these moste greuous and enormeous absurdities and inconueniences bee proued and made apparant by the cheife professors themselues of such a supposed Religion But the lamentable case and condition of these english protestants as is demonstratiuely proued by them befor is such as is her recited Therfore their seruice not to be communicated with vnder moste damnable and desperate syn Thirdly I argue in this maner whatsoeuer seruyce rite of sacraments or fashion of prayer was condemned by the best learned protestants of England Scotland Fraunce c. to bee foolish trifelinge and by reason apparant to bee disallowed and yett was deuised and allowed by the onely authoritie of an vnlearned childe kinge Edward 6. and Queene Elizabeth a woman not onely repugnant vnto the publicke approued office of our mother and commaundinge church the church of Rome but different from the custome of all protestant churches may not bee communicated withall But the english protestant Seruice and booke of common prayer is such by these protestants themselues Therfore by them not to bee communicated with The maior proposition is euidently true for the seruice that should bee soe receaued by any particular and not commaunding church as the english is not against the vse order and doctrine of all other churches true or pretended must needs bee both scismaticall and hereticall The minor proposition is thus proued first that the english protestant seruice is repugnant vnto the publicke seruice of the latine greeke Armenian other auntient churches it is euident by their liturgies Masses litanies c. conteining the doctrines Miss S. Iacobi Chrisâ— Basil Aethiopum Mussarob Gregor c Couell against Burg pag. 69. of transsubstantiation prayer to Saints for the deade c. how it differeth from other protestant churches and was condemned by the best learned protestants of them is thus proued by protestants them selues First D. Couell writeth in these words The protestant Bishop of London Ridley a cheefe martyr with M. Foxe wrote vnto M. Grindall after their protestant Arâ—hbishop of Canterbury that a man of witâ— and learninge may finde to make apparant reasons against the booke of common prayer Then I may first conclude that this their pseudomartyr practizing that Booke and seruice against witt and learninge was either vnlearned and wittles or without Religion grace and conscience or both as others succeding vnto him bee by his Censure and such Booke and seruice not to bee communicated with And to shew that this opinion of their Bishop Ridley was not singular but common amonge those first protestants he writeth thus in another treatise The first protestants of this kingdome in a letter Couell â—xaÌ„ pag. 72. subscribed with eleuen of their hands whereof Knoxe Gilby Whittingam Goodman were foure moste of them suerly hauing both learninge iudgment call the english protestant Ceremonies trifles and superfluous Ceremonies From whence I first conclude that their seruice soe censured with soe many learned and iudicious men as this protestant esteemeth them may not bee communâ—cated with Secondly I conclude this their protestant Religion and seruice to bee new against all former churches and ages and soe hereticall For hee calleth those Censurers of the communion Booke first deuised vnder kinge Edward 6. The first protestants of this kingdome Therefore this their
religion neuer maintayned or taught before is new and hereticall For Scotland this protestant Doctor hath told vs before that Knoxe their cheife protestant disallowed this their seruice which hee testifieth alsoe in his booke against Burges in these words Knoxe disallovved the communion booke Conell against Burg pag. 69. And the same of Knoxe was soe highely applauded with protestants That D. Sutcliffe hath tolde vs before that their Brethren in Scotland had imposition of hands from Knoxe therefore Knoxe not being a Bâ—shop must needs bee an Apostle extraordinarie or greater in his iudgment For France and Suitcerland Caluine and Bucer are renowned amonge protestants and Couell sup pa. 69. 122. pag 47. yett the same protestant Doctor writeth thus Bucer Censured the communion booke Caluine censured the communion booke to conteyne many fooleries And in an other booke in this maner Examinat pag. 185. Caluiue Whoe was in maner of an Oracle of God to all churches that were reformed gaue this Censure of the englisâ— communion booke translated into latine to haue his iudgment of it that many foolish things Were in yt not that puritie which was to bee desired vvas to bee filed from the rust corrected and many things cleane taken avvay For Germanie the protestant Author of the Relation of the state of religion hath these words The princes and people in Germanie haue Caluinists Relation of Relig. â— 45. in greate detestation not for bearing to professe openly they vvill returne to the papacie rather then euer admitt that sacrameÌ„tarie predestinarie pestilence Therefore Catholicks may not communicate with their country protestants in their english seruice soe generally condemned both by themselues and all forreyne protestants Againe I argue thus Noe seruice or fashion of prayer and Sacraments that is by the practizers of them and those which in their IudgmeÌ„t agree with them in all materiall points condemned to haue grosse errors manifest impieties grosse and palpable repugnancie euen in necessarie and essentiall points of Religion misapplyeth scriptures to countenance errors is naught and may bee communicated with But the english protestant seruice and Booke thereof is such therefore not to bee communicated with The maior proposition is euidently true And the minor is thus proued by these protestants M. Ormerod recordeth the Censure of english protestants vppon it in these words The booke Ormerod dial 1. of common prayers and the vvhole order of protestants seruice is coÌ„demned And to shew that they which thus censured it were allowed teaâ—hers and preachers amonge them hee addeth Ormer pict purit d 3. thus in an other book preachers in their verball sermâ—nâ— speake against the state ecclesiasticall tâ—e â—ooke of common prayer and the Ceremonies of the church of England D. Couell â—eâ—â—â—eth Couell exaÌ„ pag 179. theiâ— sâ—â—â—eâ—ce thus The communion bookâ— is boldely despised grosse â—rrors and manifest impieties are in the communion booke The protestant author of Certaine Coâ—sidâ—rations writeth in this maner The protestant communion booke Cert Consider An 1605. p 10 11. 12. 13. 17 Suru pag. 20. 24. anâ— seruice is naught it hath grosse and palpable repugnancie in yt An other protestant writeth thus The communion Booke of England is not agreable to the word of God in many things The communion booke as it hath ministred matter of contention froâ— the first hatchinge of yt Soe it vvill euer bee the fuell of that fyer An other Abbridgm of luic dioc pag. 15. pag. 17. speaketh thus â—he booke of common prayer misapplyeth sondrie places of scripture and that to the mayntayninge of vnsound doctrine The booke of common prayer contayneth in yt sondry things besids them handled in the abbridgment beeing verâ— many that are contrarie to the vvord pag. 73. of God it appointeth sondrie things that tend directly to the prophanation of the holy sacraments either â—y prostituting them to vnvvorthie parsons or administring them vnreuereantly iâ— auoucheth sondrie manifest and apparant vntruthes pag. 74. it appointeth sondrie things that bringe greate disorder and confusion vnto the vvorship of God pag. 75. It conteynes sondrie things that are ridiculous and absurde and â—uch as noe â—reasonable sence can bee made of it conteyns in yt sâ—ndrie euideâ—t contradictions And to giue instance in the publicke preachers of london it selfe Twoe and tuentie of them haue ioyned together in this Censure of this their seruice published it in printin thes words Many things in the communion booke are Petit. of 2â— preachers of London repugnant to the word of God In the communion booke there bee things of which there is noe reasonable sence there is contradiction in yt euen in necessarie and essentiall points of Religion it conteyneth vntruthes in saith the Holy scripture is disgraced in yt it entoyneth vnlawfull Ceremontes conteyneth corrupt translations of holy scriptures misapplyeth places of holy scriptures to the countenance of errors Therfore not to bee communicated with The 9. particular protestant demonstration is Because these protestants by their owne testimonies and published writings are manifest and knowne dissemblers willfull deceauers seducers lyere and periured in matters of Religion CONCERNINGE the Religeous behauiour and maner of life and conuersation of these men doctors preachers and practisers of this new Religion I argue thus Noe men that are manifestly detected dissemblers periured foreswearens lyars and knowne deceauers in matters of Religion euen by the confession of themselues and their essentially agreinge frends are not to bee imitated in Religion but vtterly to bee auoided in such Communications But the english protestant preachers and teachers of Religion are in this condition Therefore not to bee followed but auoided in spirituall communications The maior proposition is euidently true for of all people manifest lyers forswearers and dissemblers with God and man are most to bee discredited and reiected in conuersation especially in religeous things The minor proposition is thus proued by these protestants The protesâ—ant author of the relation of Religion a man of greate creditt and â—â—thoritie in their church writeth thus protestant Relation of Râ—ligion cap. 32. writers in Relation of things haue abused this present age and preiudiced posteritie Louâ— and dislike hath sâ—e dâ—zeled their eyes that they cannot bee beleeued M. Oâ—merod hath these wordâ— It is true indeed there are â—arebraynd inconstant Ormer pagan pag. â—â— 57. and sickle headed amonge protesâ—anâ—â— that are much like vnto â—kebolius tâ—e Sophist of Constantinople whoâ— before Iulian was emperour caried â—imselfe as an earnest Christian vnder Iulian hee became an Apostata and a baganâ— aâ—d after Iulian he woulde bee a christian againe And suâ—h were their cheifest and prime protestants themselues as their Archbishop Cranmeâ— befoâ—e oweinge all dutie and obedience to God twiâ—e swearing yt to the pope to kinge Henry 8 kinge Edward 6 Queene Mary of diuers Religeons and yett hee was an hereticke to God and his church and a periured wretch to all those princes