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A35922	A dialogue betwixt Whig and Tory, aliàs Williamite and Jacobite Wherein the principles and practices of each party are fairly and impartially stated; that thereby mistakes and prejudices may be removed from amongst us, and all those who prefer English liberty, and Protestant religion, to French slavery and popery, may be inform'd how to choose fit and proper instruments for our preservation in these times of danger.	Defoe, Daniel, 1661?-1731, attributed name.; Overton, Benjamin, attributed name.	1693 (1693)	Wing D1361; ESTC R229679	34,923	48

building his Popish Church for him whilst he contented himself to make use of their Hands But when they saw that after they had gone so far in the Service others were taken in to finish the Work and to reap the Fruit of what they had sow'd and planted This was indeed intolerable and then it was and not before that they begun to make a Noise about the Protestant Religion and English Liberties and to preach backward all their former Sermons Tory. But you cannot deny but that they were very instrumental to the Revolution Whig I own they were for some time like Fishes who have got a Worm in their Heads they did frisk and leap out of their own Element but like them too they soon plung'd into it again for K. I. was scarce got to Feversham before they repented what they had done and from that day to this have given all the Proofs and Marks of an invincible Hatred and Enmity to the present Government They opposed the King's coming to the Crown fell into Cabals for the weakning his Government when he was King and raised Rebellion without and Plots within the Kingdom for the restoring of K. I. c. Nay at this time it is undeniable that when ever the Clergy are most numerous the Jacobites are most numerous too there are more Jacobites ten for one in every Cathedral Town than in any other Towns accounting number for number And how the Universities are generally disaffected to this Government is notorious they reproach and rail against the very Bishops and Clergy-men preferr'd in this Reign The Archbishop of Canterbury himself whose Learning Piety and Excellencies of all kinds are so eminent that it seems impolitick in them as well as unjust to reproach him yet him too do they rail scoff at and treat with the foulest Invectives In short those who every day piously attend the Service and Religious Worship of the Church who most frequently are Communicants in the holy Sacrament these they will notwithstanding call Presbyterians canting whining Hypocrites c. and esteem none sound Members of their Body but those who drink with them and come up to all their highest Points of Dominion Tyranny and Uncharitableness to all those who are not of their Faction I will not call it their Church because I think it a Dishonour to the best Reform'd Church in the World to be served by such a Clergy as are not only a Scandal to the Name of Protestant but to the Name of Religion and who under the Title of Protestant Priests are labouring with all their Power the Return of K. Iames with his Popery and Slavery and preach and pray openly for his Restoration whilst no Exhortation for Obedience to our presen● King our great Deliverer from Popery and Slavery is heard from any Pulpit no Passive Obedience nor Non-resistance is named in this Reign And if for the sake of their Livings they are forced to pray for the King and Queen it is in so faint and low a Voice as if they had no mind to be heard either by God or the People Tory. Some few discontented Persons there may be perhaps who may deserve this Character but I hope you do not lay this Charge upon the whole Clergy of England Whig No I know there are many religious learned and good Men amongst them and there will I hope be more if this Government continues But that the Number is not small who have refus'd the Oath to this present Government you cannot deny and that most of the high Church as they call themselves those who as a Learned Doctor said have the Spirit of the Church in which they were bred tho they will not say with St. Paul they have the Spirit of God Most of this Order I say profess to take the Oath of Allegiance to this King as he is King de facto not de jure And by the Example of these Reverend Clergy-men the Lay Knaves and Fools are directed to take Oaths with Mental Reservations and private Interpretations and Distinctions And having no Principle but that of Self-Interest in which case you ever renounce all Justice all Humanity to your Fellow-Creatures you profess Slavery to some that you may Lord it over others yea renounce and trample upon all Laws to serve a Turn make a Jest of Liberty and Property And to gratify your Pride or Avarice you have betray'd your Country persecuted and murdered your innocent Country-men and Fellow-Citizens sold your Neighbours to the French King and your Laws and Religion to the late Kings and even from the same Principles have been endeavouring to bring about the same Practices in this Reign too and in order to it have been tempting your Lord and Master in the Language of the Devil to our Saviour All this will I give thee if thou wilt fall down and worship me and I hope he will answer you in his Words upon that occasion Thou shalt not tempt the Lord thy King Thus have I given you in few Lines an account of the Rise Principles and Practices of your Party with which I could fill up a Volume But I consider the Nation needs only a general Hint to refresh their Memory to Particulars For the Smart of the Wounds received in the late Reigns from you is yet most sensible to many honest English-men Tory. If this Devil of a Tory be so black as you paint him I wonder how he comes by so fair a Character and so numerous a Party in the Nation and so great a Countenance from all Courts of contrary Interests Whig Fair Appearances and great Numbers prove nothing the lewdest Strumpets are often fair and Fools and Knaves have in all Ages out-numbred the Wise and Honest. How ye Tories came to have so great a Countenance from the last Court I have already shew'd and will since you command me shew you how ye became the Favourites of this Court too even by the same Means and the same Men that made you Favourites in King Charles's Time For the M. of C. after all his mischievous Management of Affairs in that Reign having by an ill Fate to this poor Nation got into some small pretence of Merit by little Assistances he gave to the late Revolution upon this he sets up again for Ministry But being apprehensive that those honest Gentlemen who had so bravely exposed their Lives and Fortunes for the Redemption of their Country and were so well acquainted with his Methods in the late Reigns would be jealous of his having too great a Credit with the King he thought it his best play to begin with them and from his first Coming to Court labour'd to insinuate Jealousies into the King of those Gentlemen as Commonwealths-men Haters of Monarchy c. and having likewise an implacable Pique to Parliaments for their Impeachment and Imprisonment of him he at the same time represents that part of the Government envious of the King's Power and always endeavouring to make

their Party Our Saviour himself had a Iudas amongst his Twelve and yet that did not at all discredit the Doctrine and Principles of the Apostles not does our having some Knaves among us make it as reasonable and equal to adhere to your Party that are the professed Enemies of their King and Country as to depend on those who have generally in all Times and on all Occasions declar'd their Affection to their Country Love of its Laws and Religion and have since the Revolution shewed their Zeal for the present Establishment Tory. Just now you seem'd to agree to a Comprehension and were for welcoming the Prodigals as you call'd them now you are for excluding them again Whig No I am for receiving any Tory as I told you that seeks the Government and becomes a true Penitent But I would not have the Government seek them nor would I have them entrusted in this critical time without some Marks of their Repentance and Regeneracy and by our Easiness give them the opportunity of selling us to the French King or King Iames as I fear some of them do at this time Tory. All that 's Malice and Stuff and not reasonably to be apprehended And I tell you once more it is the Opinion of some wise Men that the King cannot follow a more fatal Counsel than to confine himself to any one Party of his Subjects Whig Then your Patrons have been advising him fatally these four Years for they have been perswading the King to throw himself entirely into your Hands Tory. They never refus'd to receive any Whig that would comply and come under their Protection but if the King will choose any one Party I think we of the Church are the most numerous and considerable and are fittest as such to be employ'd by him Whig Now you are retired into your Sanctuary the Church you think you are safe and it is indeed dangerous pursuing you But however I 'll venture it and since you force me I must repeat again some of those Arguments I have given you already why you are not fit to be trusted by this Government First you Tories do not believe your selves King William's Subjects and therefore are very unfit to be employ'd by him as his Servants Secondly It cools the Affections of the People to see those employ'd in Places of highest Trust who they have a Demonstration are not for the Government even when they are in it And by this Method it is plain the King according to the Fable loses his Shoulder of Mutton by catching at the Shadow and by aiming at both Parties he hath neither Tory. I confess I am for the King 's relying on one Party as much as you are tho not yours but however there are great and wise Men as I told you of another Opinion and I have heard it ask'd Why this Method of uniting all Parties should not have as good an Effect here as in Holland for there the Prince of Orange reconcil'd all to the common Interest Whig I 'll tell you why First it appears all Parties there sincerely intended the Good of the Government which it is too plain is not your Case Secondly Neither Party had any other Head to repair to as you Tories have the Prince of Orange had no pretending Rival to the Right of Statholder But the King hath here a Rival a Father-in-Law who pretends a Right to the Crown who is supported by the greatest Power that ever was known in Europe so as to make the Event appear doubtful even to those who are most zealous for this Government And by this means the Friends of King Iames are encouraged to be firm to his Interests and Neutrals nay and even his fearful Enemies are frighted from acting with a Zeal against him Is this a time then to be trying Experiments to put our selves and Affairs into the Hands of Men bred up and principled against the Design of this Government Is this a time to reconcile our selves to our Enemies and to take Men out of Plots and place them in our Cabinet No sure with my Lord N 's leave this is not the time In this time of Danger those who have been the antient and declar'd Enemies of King Iames and who have most reason to expect being hang'd if he return are most fit for the King to rely on But when these Difficulties are master'd as much Comprehension as you please In the mean time your Education in Toryism your Obligations to King Iames and which is more than both your present Hopes from him will make you so averse to this Government that no Favour no Courtship can engage your heartily in its Interests and it is Nonsense to expect you should fight for a Title you have always declar'd to disapprove of Tory. You are always harping upon that String But supposing we do not approve of the making him King yet we know how to obey Kings when they are made But you after you have made a King are using him like your Creature clipping his Power and ● finding Fault with his Conduct For my part if I were a King would sooner forgive a Man that dislik'd my Title than one who dislik'd my Conduct Whig Why then Mr. Tory you would be none of the wisest Princes For he who finds fault with your Conduct may be your Friend but he who finds fault with your Title must be your Enemy or else a Knave and acts against his Conscience But how does this Article appear of the Whigs being dissatisfied with the King's Conduct in any Point but in his employing you and the Consequences of it Is it from giving chearfully whatever Sums were demanded in Parliament Is it being ready to advance Money upon the most remote Funds in offering their Persons to the Publick Service in all times of Danger notwithstanding all Brow-beatings and Discouragements by breaking all Measures with King Iames and his Party that they discover their Dislikes and Dissatisfactions to the King or his Government But if they disapprove that the Friends of King Iames should be King William's Ministers that those should be plac'd in all Offices who hate him and betray him Will he have Reason to take their Dislike of this part of his Conduct so very unkindly from them as to forgive it less than your renouncing his Right and Title to the Crown But your Tories have got a Trick of bringing Kings into your Quarrels as the Priests do God Almighty into theirs and by placing them before you hope to make your selves safe not caring how much you expose them and you impudently place your own Crimes unfairly upon others and whilst you your selves are daily Libelling and Lampooning the King's Person and Conduct most maliciously and triumphing in all his Misfortunes ingratefully witness the publick Insolencies at the Bath and Windsor upon the late Defeat in Flanders you according to your wonted Modesty charge the Whigs with your own Faults and avoid being Criminals by turning Accusers Tory.

Monarchy whilst you contested as zealously to make it an Anarchy Tory. We will talk more of this by and by But if you were so instrumental as you say in setting up this Government why are you so out of Humour with what you have made your selves Whig Disappointment you must allow a just Cause of Resentment We hop'd from new Lords new Laws new Ministers and new Methods But if still we are to have the same Ministers and consequently the same Methods the very Tools of the two last Reigns and consequently the same Work this I take in my Lord H s Phrase to be a Change without an Alteration and in my Opinion gives too just occasion of Dislike and I cannot but think this way of managing Affairs must end unhappily both to Prince and People Tory. But how come you and I to be so concern'd either for the Prosperity of Princes who never think of us but as we can serve some present Turn of theirs or for the Interest of Mob who will sing Ballads upon us under the Gallows when we are hanging there for their sakes Prethee Whig grow wise and do not torment thy self thus with State-Affair● let Princes take Care of themselves and the People of themselves and let us take Care of our selves My Method is to get what I can and let Courts do what they will Whig Why then Sir with your good leave your Method is as foolish as it is knavish For whoever sells his Country to a ●awless Power leaves himself nor his Family no Certainty no Property in what he hath gotten by his Treachery nay his Estate is as often the Snare as the Comfort of his Life It proves sometimes a Naboth's Vineyard and makes him the Eye-sore of some hungry Court-Favourite And I would ask Whether a small Estate fenc'd about with Laws and the Possession thereof secur'd to you and your Family is not of more Value than a much greater Revenue of which you cannot assure your self the Possession one Minute Your Fore-Fathers thought the Laws and Liberties of England worth their Care and Contest and waded through Rivers of Blood to leave them in force to their Posterity And the Church once made it an Article of their Religion Nolumus Leges Angliae mutari But thou dost renounce all the Principles of Humanity of common Sense and of Religion and oughtest to be driven out of a Country which thou makest open Profession to sell and betray And as for what you say of the Ingratitude of Princes and People the one to his faithful and affectionate Subjects the other to their zealous Patriots this does not discharge you from your Duty to either But in Answer to the first if you will serve Princes no farther than you serve your Country in serving them that Service will always reward it self and for the Mob as you are ever pleas'd most mannerly to call your Country-men and Fellow-Citizens if any prove so sordid as you alledg I shall answer you in the Words of our Saviour Forgive them for they know not what they do And let his Example teach you better Principles who notwithstanding all the Scoffs and Indignities he met with laid down his Life upon the Cross for the Benefit of Mankind But your Principles make you the Triumph of Heathens and bring you upon the same foot with Brute Beasts Tory. Come don't tell us Stories of our great Grandsires who troubled themselves about Trifles There is a Fashion in Government as well as in Clothes which must be comply'd with according to the Humour of the present Age and you may as well pretend to shape all Gowns by Queen Elizabeth's Fardingale as to shape our Courts or Counsels according to the Sentiments of that or other Times which were as different too from one another as we are different from them Whig As for your Fashion of Government Mr. Tory I hope it is either gone to the Grave with K. C. or to France with K. I. and could heartily wish you would follow it to either places But pray before you go let me ask you in what Age and Time it was That Men of Sense or Men of Honour did prefer Will and Pleasure to Laws or Slavery to Freedom As I take it the Principles of Liberty and Property have always been in Fashion amongst Men of Sense and Estates in England and ever will be But your Principles can never find Professors but amongst Fools and Beggars Tory. Whatever our Principles are you find both them and us preferr'd to you and yours even by a Government of your own choosing And let that satisfy you as an Answer to that Point Whig Not at all that only proves a Mistake some where And where the Mistake is if you please we will enquire and I think it will best appear by examining the original Rise Principles and Practices of both Parties Tory. Come on then a clear Stage and no Favour Whig As for your original Rise 't is certain you owe your being known in the World to the horrid and execrable Designs of the two late Kings to set up Arbitrary Power and Popery amongst us then were all the Jails Brothels and Kennels raked for Villains of ●ear'd Consciences and desperate Fortunes your Arl ns Clif ds Of s were then thought upon for Ministers of State and under them were bred such a pack of Wretches as the Court of Tiberius would have been asham'd of In the Law they were of the same sort with the Ministry What Age can parallel your N ms your N ths your Ieff ys Sc gs Rain ds Wri s c. and their under Managers Gra m and Burt n c. Then as to the Pillars of what they then called the Church of England tho so disguised at that time that it was scarce known by its most dutiful most affectionate and most pious Children I need say no more of them than that they were composed of Bishops and a Clergy preferr'd by two Kings who were about to set up Popery and Tyranny And therefore were to choose such Men into the Government of the Church who they thought would be most complying with those Purposes and whose Looseness of Morals might bring most Discredit upon the Protestant Religion and whoever remembers Park r Cart t or knows Cr w and Wat n will I think be of the Opinion they were not ill chosen for the abovesaid Purposes Tory. But you see whatever Purposes they were chosen for several of the Bishops opposed Popery with the greatest Bravery imaginable Whig True they did oppose a Popish Clergy being brought into their Bishopricks Churches and Colleges and who but a mad Man would have expected any other from them But did they ever stick at any thing that might advance Arbitrary Power over the Laity Did they not conjure the People to Passive Obedience Non-resistance c. Did they not tie us Hand and Foot and throw us like Daniel into the Lions Den Nay did they ever stick at

But the Lady apprehending the Thief 's Design very prudently neglected the false Attack and apply'd both her Hands to the s●curing her Jewel and by that means came off safe And so Gentlemen whenever you make your false Attack upon our Commonwealth we shall for the future take it for the Signal to us that your real Aim is at our Liberties and Properties and shall apply both our Hands and Hearts to the securing those Jewels of inestimable Price But to be serious in our case the Whigs as I said in the beginning of our Discourse have given sufficient Proof how little they design'd a Commonwealth and how hearty they were to the Monarchy in their struggling so zealously to set the Crown on the King's Head Tory. We own you were for giving him the Name of a King But after all speak sincerely Did you design to make him any more than a King of Clouts a Duke of Venice or a Statholder Whig We design'd to make him as great a King as the Laws of England and our Ancient Constitution make any King And if you pretend to make him more take the Honour of it But Sir upon this occasion your Party were for making his present Majesty less than either a Duke of Venice or Statholder of Holland For in proposing to make him a Regent you make him only a Journy-man-King a Subject to King Iames and accountable to him But what the Whigs did to deserve being suspected of a Commonwealth-Design or of any Intention to lessen the King's just Power I am yet ignorant Tory. You are wilfully so then for what could the meaning of the Convention be to settle the Revenue of the Crown from three Years to three Years and to take away the Revenue of the Chymney-Money one of the fairest Flowers of the Crown but lessening the King's Power and making his Government precarious Whig The Chimney-Tax being grown a Grievance more sensible and more odious to the common People than any other and the danger of being enslav'd by giving such great Revenues for Life to the two last Kings by which they were enabled to maintain standing Armies and to subsist without Parliaments was so fresh in the Memories of all thinking English-Men and so apprehended by them that the King's Friends thought it greatly for his Service to take away the Burden of the one and the Apprehension of the other from the People and by using different Methods to those which had been follow'd in the former Reigns To make his present Majesty's Government more acceptable to all good Men and that He might hereby reign in the Hearts of his Subjects and be distinguished by them which Method if pursued would have given us a fairer Prospect of our Affairs than at present I am afraid we have But this is not the Interest of wicked Ministers who when Kings take these Courses lose their Dominion over them their business is therefore to make Princes jealous of Encroachments of Parliaments of Commonwealth-Designs amongst the People to represent the King's Interest separate from the Interest of his Subjects and then to ingratiate themselves with him and raise themselves in his Opinion for their Parts and Abilities they offer him Schemes of Politicks to prevent Designs against him which were never thought on Thus these honest Iago's first work a Prince up to Jealousies and Hatred of his People by false Suggestions and then as a Remedy against the Mischiefs they have suppos'd put him upon Designs ruinous to his Country and himself But in the mean time by appearing thus zealous for what they call the King 's particular Interest and Glory they insinuate themselves into some sort of Princes Favour they become Confidents of all Court-Intrigues and grow great and rich they dispose all Offices and crush all who are not their Creatures and at last come to awe and govern Kings themselves As Waiting-Women who when they have debauched their Mistresses by their Mercenary Sollicitations and are become the Trustees of their Frailty they no longer taste the Busk nor bitter Reproofs for misplacing of a Pin or Patch but from Servants become Mistresses no Faults are then found with them no Liberty denied them even the Purse and the rich Petticoat is absolutely at the Waiting-woman's Service till at last they bring their Mistresses to Infamy and Beggary And so to return to the Ministry again By this kind of Management they make their Masters Kings of Clouts necessitous miserable and despis'd Princes For Example What made the late King Iames a King of Clouts but those Evil Counsellors who put him upon Despotick and Dispensing Power and propagating a Religion against Law Who put him upon preferring Papists and Irish to Protestants and English Who advised his seizing Colleges and Charters setting up High-Commission-Courts and making Parliaments and Laws a Nose of Wax Deny this if you can Mr. Tory. Nay as to your Idol-King Charles the Second who notwithstanding I believe much the worse of the two Brothers as sinning against a better Understanding and greater Obligations was it not by these Counsels and some of these Counsellors that this Gentleman was made a King of Clouts too from having all the Advantages at the time of his Restoration that ever King was blessed with He was belov'd delighted in and courted by his Subjects was respected Abroad in Plenty and Power at Home and could direct the Votes of a Parliament with a Nod more than he could at last with his Exchequer yet after all this in a few Years by the Management of some of our present Evil Counsellors who gave him ill Impressions of his Subjects made him out of Love with Parliaments and poison'd him with Lawless Power and Love of Tricks the worst of Poisons to an English King who for their own filthy Interest perswaded him to sell Dunkirk break the Triple League and enter into Measures with France destructive to the Interest of this Nation and of all Europe By these Measures he at last became distasteful to his Subjects and was forsaken by a Parliament the most attach'd to him and in love with his Person to a Fault so that at last his Necessities drove him to become a Pensioner to France And if you will believe Mr. Dreyden his Poet-Laureat concluded his Reign in these miserable Circumstances of being despis'd Abroad and living on Tricks at Home And how these Gentlemens Father and Grandfather were made Kings of Clouts by the like Measures and the like Ministers by endeavouring at Lawless Power and laying aside Parliaments c. even the Histories of those Times publish'd by their own Authority make it out plainly And now Mr. Tory if you please we will examine a little into the few Examples we have of Princes who have practis'd a contrary Method to the before-mentioned one we will enquire what Effects that sort of Government hath produced and we need go no farther I think than Queen Elizabeth's Reign the immediate Predecessor to the Scotish Race

proved nothing appears undeniable but your Venom and Enmity against the Church and her Friends Whig If your mean the French Story needs proving the Disgrace of Barillon when he return'd to Versaille upon the account of mistaking and misrepresenting the English Affairs is notorious But besides the Story proves it self more than a thousand Witnesses and for the rest I have related nothing but what every English-man is knowing of And as for what you charge me with in relation to the Church I see little Reason for it unless as St. Paul says you account me your Enemy because I tell you the Truth For my part I reverence the Church of England as much as any Man But I am not for sacrificing the Laws and Liberties of the Publick nay the very Nation it self to a Foreign Conquest for the sound of a Word I have a due Respect for the Priesthood too and am their Servant but never can submit to be their Slave I honour their Coat but cannot be content to strip my self of mine in respect to it A moderate Respect is decent and our Duty more I take to be Superstition at least if not Idolatry and to worship a Wooden Priest appears to me as bad as worshipping a Wooden God Tory. Now you are running into your usual Violence and Heat and let me tell you as a Friend it does you no good neither with the Church nor Court which latter hath a very low Opinion of those Men who express too much Warmth in what they say or do Whig And therefore their Affairs have succeeded accordingly Let the Nation be Judges Whether if Men of Warmth had been put in Office by our Ministers the Taxes would not have been more justly and carefully collected than they have been by those Luke-warm Managers they have employ'd who like the unjust Steward when the King 's Due was an hundred bid their Neighbours write down fifty Or do you think the Deputy-Lieutenants of Surry would have absconded last Year when they were ordered to raise the Militia upon King Iames's coming down to Normandy if they had been Men of Warmth to the Government Or that King Iames's Friends would dare to profess their Opinions and carry on their Designs so publickly That they would presume to insult the Government in every Coffee-house nay in the Mall and Whitehall it self That they would dare to threaten you to your Teeth as they do with Invasions Descents and Rebellions or would venture to correspond with France and go forward and backward every Day to King Iames nay raise Regiments of Horse and Foot under your Noses for a Rebellion if Men of Warmth and Zeal were in the Government But it is from hence that all these Insolencies take their Rise that the Enemies of the Government are come from hating it to despite it that its Friends are discouraged to appear for it and that those Officers and Souldiers who in King Charles's time would have broken the Heads of those whom they heard reflect upon the King's Person or Government will in this Reign hear both treated very odly not that they want an Affection to either but out of a fear to offend by shewing themselves Men of Warmth and Party-men those Characters being so abominable to our Court. Tory. You Whigs have been the occasion of all this too for you were so irreconcileable to some Ministers of State at the Beginning of the Revolution because they had made a few Slips in the last Reigns or perhaps because they had hang'd some of your Friends a Father or Brother or so that you forc'd them to take in some Persons which they themselves thought not very proper for this Government But if you will run a Man down he will support himself at any rate for Men are but Men And withal I believe they hop'd that a Place would buy any Party out of their Principles and that all who they bought into the Government would be obliged by that Means to be for the Government Whig This is very far fetch'd Mr. Tory tho it is not the first time I have heard it But as to the first part of this Paragraph the Matter of Fact is false The Whigs were willing to forget all past Miscarriages and be reconciled to any Minister that could be honest as I shew'd you before But these Gentlemen quickly convinc'd all the World that they were grown so old and stiff in their former Mischiefs that they were capable of no other ●end or Impression but what they had taken in the last Reigns And it was plain to every Man that had Eyes that they were no sooner in the Ministry but they fell into their old Schemes which no honest Man could come into and which I am afraid the Court hath not found the good Effects from which these Evil Counsellors promis'd It 's true by giving Places to all that were supple and complying you have brought in the Knaves of all Parties But since that which brings them into the Service of the Government is their own Interest and not that of the Government it will be reasonable for our Rulers to expect that the whole Design of such Men will be rather how to serve themselves of the Government than how to serve it To conclude Sir notwithstanding all you have said in Excuse of your Ministers and their Methods I cannot but remain in my first Opinion That the Men of easy Phlegme born on the Confines of Indifference as Sir Samuel Tuke in F ch-like Fustian describes our luke-warm Neutrals are not fit Men to be employ'd in our Government as the Case stands at present but will prove as destructive to it as downright Iacobites Tory. All this is taking things for granted which we deny and accusing Men of what you do not prove and if it were so you confess there are Knaves of your Party too Whig The Truth of what I say in relation to your Party is so notorious to all the World that it would be as impertinent to go about proving it as to prove there is a Sun even you your selves have confess'd and pretended to repent of your Principles and Practices in King Iames's time tho you are now return'd to your Vomit And as to what you say of our having Knaves amongst us I must confess it too true and am as much afflicted as you can be that any Whig should invade your undoubted and sole Right of being Knaves and selling and betraying their Fellow-Subjects But yet we hope we may claim a Distinction to be made betwixt our Party who not only profess but have maintain'd to the Death the Religion Rights and Liberties of their Country and yours who in King Charles's and beginning of King Iames's Reign gave up all these things and who though you are employ'd in and sworn to the present Government make publick Rejoicings at the Slaughter of our Armies and Destruction of our Fleets If the Whigs have the Misfortune of some Knaves professing themselves of