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A41326	The liturgical considerator considered, or, A brief view of Dr. Gauden's considerations touching the liturgy of the Church of England wherein the reasons by him produced for imposing the said liturgy upon all, are found to be so weak, his defence of things offensive in it so slight, the arguments against the liturgy by himselfe afforded, are so strong, that some, who upon His Majesties declaration did incline to the liturgy, are now further from it, by reading his wordy discourse about it : also some reasons humbly rendered, why many ministers, as yet cannot conform to that liturgy, but not out of disloyalty, pride, ingratitude, peevishness, nor schismatical petulancy, as the sarcastical pen of this uncharitable doctor hath published ... / by G.F.	Firmin, Giles, 1614-1697.	1661 (1661)	Wing F956; ESTC R843	47,787	64

of the Parent Then briefly I answer Answ 1. Why then did Dr. Gauden refuse to baptize the Infant of a Parent being abominably ignorant in his Parish till the Parent got some knowledge I am certain of the truth of this what wrong did he to the Child by refusing to put it into a Regenerate and saved Estate by refusing to Baptize it What if the child had died Secondly You allow a person in a Regenerate and saved estate and yet falling from that state you cannot save this Thirdly Infants as Infants are the subjects of Baptism they need no depending Title I thought Abrahams seed visibly so had been the subject Fourthly Though natural affection work yet who in his judgment loving the soul of his Child would not wish it might die when it is under a certainty of salvation Fifthly Though all the Ordinances of God are honourable yet Baptism surpass them all for that puts all such Subjects into a certainty of salvation but the Word preached doth little Paul did not speak right when he said he was sent not to baptize but to preach the first saved all if died in such a state These are my sudden thoughts but I pray view Mr. Gataker his Stricturae upon Bishop Davenants Epistle to Dr. Ward about this question and answer him when I read him long since he gave me satisfaction It is true he was one of the Members of that illiterate Assembly that Dr. Gauden so much useth to despise and that in his Loosing Peters Chains but though he did not wear a long Scarf he need not go to School to Dr. Gauden no more needed Dr. Twiss nor Dr. Reynolds Members of the same Assembly but if the Doctor will swagger with his Rabbinical Learning let him help Dr. Lighfoot another Member a little and he will talk with him many other men there were of excellent worth for Learned Orthodox and truly plous men that understand the Gospel and live accordingly I fear the like Assembly will not be in ours nor in our Childrens dayes they get no honour who despise that Assembly Sectio sexta 2ly THE next Effect of the Liturgy is this it unites the King and the People and this Reason he urgeth so that on the contrary he saith Subjects cannot be so tite firm zealous chearful nor constant in our Loyalty and Love to our Soveraign a heap of words pag. 28. Answ 1. What mean you Doctor to create jealousies between the King and his Subjects when He is newly come to His Throne the Lord rebuke you Why then did you take the Covenant so cross to what now you practice the removal of the Liturgy was in pursuance of the Covenant as both Houses declared because you can bring no Scripture-proof you go to State-policy but let us weigh him Secondly Why not then the same Sermon that is preached before the King and the same prayer the Minister makes before Him that there be nothing in all the Worship of God through his Kingdoms but verbatim the same that is before the King This uniformity is stronger Thirdly It is true in were a desirable thing if the King and His Subjects could agree in every punctilio of Religion Doctrine and Worship but His Majesty knows it is impossible and that He though our King is a Subject to God as well as we there is darkness abides upon us in some degree while we are here but if we be united to our King in the sound Doctrine of the Church of England as we are and the same Ordinances of God owning all if in lesser matters and circumstances there be various apprehensions upon conscientious grounds Can we not be firm to Him in Love and Loyalty Fourthly As to prayer Is it not sufficient that we pray for the same things and for His Majesty much more enlarged than in the Liturgy unlesse we use just the same words and syllables You can allow men to use other words and contract places of Scripture which the great God inspired and commanded so to be written as I instanced before in your Liturgy and yet we must be tyed to mens words I think our hearts were united to him in Love and Loyalty when we poured out our souls for him under his affliction without a Common-prayer Book Fifthly The union between King and Subjects is then surest when he hath the hearts of his Subjects united to him His Majesty took a better course for this heart-union by His Declaration from Breda I am sure no King ever had the hearts of his Subjects more united to Him than He had by that not that His Majesty is bound by that to tolerate every one who pretends conscience then He must sin in tolerating the vilest Heresies and those who despise and cast off all the Ordinances of God and Civil Government also Sixthly The King of France hath those who are Loving and Loyal to Him unlesse you will condemn all the Protestants there yet I hope they use not the same words in their Worship that are used before the King How much more we who are of the same Protestant Religion with our King and use the same worship only though we express the same things in different words 7. God hath the hearts of People in his hand and can turn them to their Prince as he please and the best way for that I think is both for King and Subjects to keep closest to him and his worship according to his own Institution which if your Liturgy only be and you can prove it you need say no more but for this Argument Doctor you get no hearts I am sure from the Kings Subjects If a man look back to the times of our troubles what began them you may remember what made these unhappy breaches your Argument is experimentally confuted Sectio Septima 6. THe next Topick he argues the excellency of it is ab oppositis First here I think he doth notably lash those who laid it aside but the efficient Composers they were Martyrly men but the efficient Deposers who are they we know they were both Houses of Parliament as the Ordinan 3. Jan. 1644. declares and none else but those could lay it aside I mean no private persons but let us hear the Doctor And we see this piece of policy wat early used by some Jesuitick Engines to foment our sad Divisions the Liturgy must be laid aside c. p. 30. If the Doctor will stoop so low to read the Ordinance of Parliament and the Preface of the Learned for so I call it Assembly to the Directory there read the Jesuitick Engines Were those men Jesuits 2. He argues from the contrary evil effects which have followed since the Liturgy was laid aside These effects he tells us are Errors Ignorance Prophaneness c. p. 11 12 32 33. Answ True too many errors and too much profaneness we have known but did they rise from this being laid aside surely you mistake For Errors First Let us see whether

THE LITVRGICAL CONSIDERATOR CONSIDERED Or a brief view of Dr. GAVDEN'S Considerations touching the LITVRGY of the Church of ENGLAND Wherein the Reasons by him produced for imposing the said Liturgy upon all are found to be so weak his defence of things offensive in it so slight the Arguments against the Liturgy by himself afforded are so strong that some who upon His Majesties Declaration did incline to the Liturgy are now further from it by reading his wordy Discourse about it ALSO Some Reasons humbly rendered why ma●y Ministers as yet cannot conform to that Liturgy but not out of Disloyalty Pride Ingratitude Peevishness nor Schismatical Petulancy as the Sarcastical Pen of this uncharitable Doctor hath published The second Edition By G. F. as Firm and Loyal a Subject to His Majesty as this CONSIDERATOR is Likewise the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities for we know not what we should pray for as we ought c. Rom. 8.26 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Just Mart. Sine monitor● quia de pectore oramus Tertul. You must give God His due by regulating aright His Church according to his Scripture King Charls the first in His dying Speech The Vices in Rhetorick are Sordidness ●ediousness Obscurity Flatness of Conceit Argu●eness and Minutiae Gawdiness Wordiness and empty Ostentation Dr. Reynolds Treatise of Passions Cap. 39. LONDON Printed for Ralph Smith at the Bible in Cornhil near the Royal Exchange 1661. An Epistle to the Reader by way of Apology for Ministers not receiving the Common-Prayer-Book Christian and Courteous Reader THE Judicious and Reverend Author of this ensuing Tract no less approved for his learning modesty piety and zeal to the unity of the Church and his * Witness his separation examined and published Anno 1652. and his answer to Dr. Owen's Schisme Antiseparation in the day of its prevalency and prosperity then for his loyalty and fidelity to the Kings Majesty in the day of His distress having entred the Lists with my Antagonist Dr. John Gauden by way of Answer to his confused Considerations of the Liturgy of the Church of England Prelatical censures beyond the bounds of charity or sobriety of many His Majesties best and most loyal Subjects who in prudence or conscience forbear the use thereof and his Sarcastical Comment on His Majesties Gracious Declaration concerning Ecclesiastical Affairs and the liberty thereby indulged and used as we presume on due and fit encouragement was pleased to vouchsafe me a view therof which I having seriously perused do find to contain an Answer so full and sober by Arguments so weighty and solid that I cannot but commend it to the reading and regard of all serious Christians who desire to have their Faith setled by right and religions Reason against the unsettledness of fancy to which the florid expressions of Rhetorick can only avail If thou hast read Dr. Gaudens Considerations thou findest the Liturgy set out in such excellency and extemporary conceived prayer so much debased by elegant expressions and florid Hyperbolies that thou canst not but be ravished in thine imagination but if with patience thou readest and ponderest this Tract and the Arguments therein produced with the extent and reflections of the same thou wilt find the Dr. hath indeed Hype bolized and verified what hath been observed of him viz ●hat his Rhetorick is better than his Reason that being exceedingly extravagant through the want of this for his speech sounds better than it informs and pleaseth as it passeth not as it is po●dered I have often heard of Queen Elizabeths Character of a Sermon first preached and then printed viz. That it was the best in hearing but worst in reading And that the Preachers Apology was that Her Majesty in reading had his Fiddle not his Fiddlestick My serious advice must be to this Reverend man if it be not below him to take it never hereafter to sunder these two for his Oratory loseth its lustre and efficacy with its sound This and works of this nature are commended to thee noc to the end it should maintain or promote the Controversies conce ning the Common Peayer Book which have been so high in nature Witnesse the troubles at Francksord An. 1554. in the times of Queen Mary and long in continuance ever since before the reign of Queen Elizabeth that would men with serious and composed spirits consult the Churches peace to which they so fairly pretend it would be found a sufficient Reason to abolish this Book and make void this Form of publick Worship which none dare affirm necessary and therefore must confess to be alterable when found inconvenient but to convince the World the Ministers who do yet demurr to the use thereof are not without conscientious grounds for their so doing which they could with much ease and equity digest into an Apology what serious Christian can observe the malici us vexations of Ministers by the spight of many Church-warders and particular persons prosecuting their faithful and able Ministers unto the loss of their Estates imprisonment of their persons and at least present interruptions of their Ministry though the want of a Standard wherby to try the Common-prayer Book which hath had its change by every of our Kings sirce the Reformation of Religion must needs render their conviction impossible to every understanding and conscientious Juror Or the Bishops wilful and pertinacious refusing to ordain institute or induct any Ministers unlesse they will subscribe the use of the Common Prayer Book to be lawful and that they will use it in all publick prayer and none other according to the Canon whose establishment by Law is donbted and denied notwithstanding His Majesties Gracious Indulgence in his Royal Declaration every way proportionable to that Authority by which these Canons were at first established or those heavy Censures and harsh Invectives proudly belched out by our Antagonist against all such as do not presently conform to the use thereof as guilty of peevishnesse ingrat●tude schismatical petulancy or pride not so much as considering what hath been by one well suggested That the prudence of some expecting the alteration promised in his Majesties Declaration doth supersede the Act which their desire of the peace Considerat of Liturgy p. ● Tho. Bold in his Rhetorick restrained pag. 3. unity and uniformity of the Church doth incline them unto Can I say these things be observed and men not see plainly that some pretending to the healing of our wounds do propose and persue wayes and methods which must needs bespeak them Physitians of no value nay of more cruelty than skill frustrating the very influence of His Majesty's plaister applied by His Gracious Declaration constraining men who otherwise might with all humble thankfulnes enjoy in silence the liberty indulged by open and publick Apologies to stave off the violent and unjust censures of proud and envious men Christian and Courteous Reader I have in Loyalty to His Majesty with such fervency and fidelity asserted His