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A49194	Severall speeches, spoken by the right honourable the Earle of Loudoun, Lord high chancellour of the Kingdome of Scotland at a conference with a committee of the honourable houses in the Painted chamber, October 1646.	Loudoun, John Campbell, Earl of, 1598-1663.	1646 (1646)	Wing L3087; ESTC R201195	13,219	12

no lesse regard to this Kingdom then our own Nation so are we now with the same candor and tendernesse of affection willing and ready to concurre with the honourable Houses in every thing which may promote the great work of Reformation and settle Religion according to the Covenant with a well grounded peace And for these ends we desire that his Majesties answer may be improved to the best advantage of the publick For albeit the King hath not given a present assent to the Propositions yet he hath not in his answer refused them but doth promise That he will cheerfully grant and give his assent unto all such Bils at the desire of the two Houses and reasonable demands for Scotland which shall be really for the good and peace of his people To which end he desireth and proposeth that he may come to London or any of his houses thereabouts upon security That he shall be there with honour freedome and safety as the best expedient to procure a happy agreement between his Majesty and his Parliament which we desire may be weighed in the ballance of righteous judgement as a businesse of the greatest consequence which can fall within humane consideration and wherein the glory of God is most concerned of any businesse under heaven For upon a blessed agreement between the King and his Parliament Religion and Righteousnesse Truth and Peace which are the compend and height of all happinesse will be established to the eternall fame and glory of great Britain and the great comfort of all the Protestant churches And upon our disagreement all the calamities of a bloody and unnaturall war will be continued and nothing heard nor seen in church nor State but confusion God hath brought both Kingdomes through the surges and waves of a boisterous tempest into the harbour of a peace and hath scattered most part of our Enemies now our work is how to come a-shoare establish a right peace I hope it is as far from our desires and intentions as it is against our Covenent and Professions to change fundamentall government We have need to take heed that we run not from one extream into another Dum stulti vitant vitia in contraria currunt Therefore our study would be how to cure the wound which our sins and the evill counsels of others have made between the King and his Parliament to make up the breach and not make it wider It hath been universally acknowledged That the Kings removall from his Parliament is the immediate and chiefe cause of all the war mischiefe and calamities of the kingdomes Then his Majesties presence in joyning with his Parliament must be the best if not the onely remedy to remove our traubles for it is a maxime no lesse true then common that Contraries have Contrary consequents Contrari●…rum cont●…tia sunt c●…sequentia The King desires to come to his Parliament not onely to have his doubts clecred and have these difficulties explained which hinder his consent to the Propositions as they now stand But likewise that his coming may raise a mutuall confidence between him and his Parliament If the last were done the first would soon be performed and all those mountaines of difficulties would easily be removed and become valleys Your Commissioners had no power to give any reasons no not so much as tell what is the meaning of any of your demands nor hearken to any desire of the Kings And certainly some things might be justly moved by his Majesty which are necessary for the Crowne and a well grounded Peace as That he may have his Revenues That he may returne with honour and safety to his crowne and government And if the King were with his Parliament where hee might both give and receive satisfaction he might with reason be convinced to assent to what hee now conceives to be unreasonable The making of a peace is so great and glorious a worke and so acceptable to all good men and to the whole people that it would after so great trouble be like raine to the new mowne grasse or like a resurrection from the dead and is a worke worthy of a Kings presence And the King may without arrogancy desire that glory to himselfe the more to reingratiate him to his people and not devolve that honour wholly to any other wherein he himselfe ought to be the prime Actor And therefore the Kings presence with his Parliament is the most probable way to attaine to a speedy and blessed peace which certainly will be the more durable if it be with the good liking of both sides I know there is one common objection and I know not another wherewith many are possest and prejudiced against the Kings coming to his Parliament That his presence may breed division and that he may thereafter withdraw and continue our troubles Vnity and Concord I confesse is that by which Kingdoms and Common-wealths do flourish and there is nothing more dangerous then division Concordia enim res parvae cresunt discordia vero maximae dilabuntur But is there any greater or more dangerous division then to have the Head devided from the body go have the King divided from his Parliament the representative body of the kingdome whereof he is the Head Hath not this division divided brother against brother the father against the son and the son against the father and Countrey against countrey This division is the cause of all our other divisions Take this away and all cur other divisions are at an end Ablata causa tollitur effectus The King doth with all earnestnesse desire to be joyned with you and stands more in need of rec●●ciliation and I hope will according to his profession endeavour it rather then division And I trust the wisdom of the honourable Houses is such as they will doe so too and rather be reconciled to the King then divide amongst our selves And that argument not to admit of the Kings coming to his Parliament because his presence may breed division is an argument to debarre him perpetually from his Parliement And now the case is altered from what it was when it was thought unfit that the King should come to his Parliament because then he had forces in the fields garisons and strong holds to return to Now he hath none of these against you And his desire of coming to his Parliament cannot be but with resolution to agree and stay with you for if he were once with you where can he go from you And if they were esteemed enemies to the Parliament and the peace of the kingdoms who advised the King to withdraw from his Parliament what estimation will the world have of them who will not suffer him to returne to his Parliament when he offers to cast himselfe in your armes Nor can there be a more reall testimony of our respect and affection to England then that we desire he may be with you and be advised by you neither can you have any

and laudable desire for unity in relation to Religion the King and amongst our selves so shal I close in the same dialect For the first of Religion if we do remember our vows to God to perform them and shall endeavour really constantly and sincerely the reformation of religion and uniformity according to our Covenant we may certainly expect that God will crown this great work wherein he hath honored us to be actors with his blessing but if in place of uniformity which we are obliged to endeavour there shall be a toleration of all sects and sorts of religion and if we neglect to build the house of God and become insolent upon our successes although we could mount up with Eagles wings and build our nests as high as the startes and had an army who for valour and strength could march to Constantinople God shall lay our glory low in the dust and suffer the work to fall in our hands like the confusion of Babel And whatever hath been moved by us concerning the King we desire it may be rightly constructed as proceeding from such as have not wavered from their first principles for when the King was in the height of his power we did not and I hope never shall flatter him and when the enemy was in the height of their pride and strength Scotland did fear no colours and now when the King is at his lowest ebbe and hath cast himself into our army for safety we hope your Lordships will pardon us from our sense of honour and duty to be very tender of the person and posterity of the King to whom we have so many neer relations and not like the worse of us that we cannot so far forget our allegiance and duty as not to have an antipathy against the change of Monarchical government in which we have lived through the descent of so many Kings and under which both kingdoms have been governed so many ages and flourished In all happinesse And now my last word shall be for constant unity between the kingdoms which as it hath been the chief means to promote the great work wherein both kingdoms are so deeply engaged so there is nothing can make us so formidable to our enemies nor so much aiding one to another as the cherishing and continuing thereof and I dare say that no man would divide the one from the other but such as desire to fish in troubled waters and are reall enemies to both God hath blest the joint endeavours of both Nations both are in one ship and are come through a very great storm and now when we are come into the harbour it would be great shame to both to split upon the rocks of division devorato bove deficere in causa and your Lordships may be confident that Scotland who have esteemed no hazard too great for setling of Religion and love to their Brethren will stick so fast and firmly to you so long as you hold the principles of your Covenant as no fear nor favour will ever be able to divide them from you and we do expect that reciprocal amity which may perpetuate our unity The Lord Chancellour of Scotland his Speech to the Kings Majesty at Newcastle YOur Majesty was pleased on Monday last to cal the Lords of your Privy counsel of Scotland the Committee to acquaint them with the Propositions told that before the delivery of your answer you would make the same known to them The time assigned for the stay of the commissioners is so short the conse●uence of your Majesties answer is of so great importance either for the preservation 〈◊〉 ruine of your Crown and Kingdoms as we could not be answerable to God nor to ●ut trust reposed in us unlesse we represent to your Majesty how necessary it is as the ●ondition of affairs now stand and in so great an extremity that your Majesty should ●ssent to the Propositions and that the danger and losse of your refusall will be re●edilesse and bring on sudden ruine and destruction I shall begin first with the last which is the danger and shall next speak a word of ●e remedy The differences between your Majesty and your Parliament which no ●an knows better then your Majesties selfe are grown to such a heighth that after any bloody battels there is no cure but a present peace otherwise nothing can be ●…pected but certain destruction The Parliamsent is possest of your Navy and of all 〈◊〉 Forts garisons strong holds of the kingdom they have the Excise assessements 〈◊〉 sequestrations at their disposal have authority to raise all the men mony in the ●ingdom and after many victories and great successes they have a strong Army on ●…ot and are now in such a posture for strength and power as they are in a capacity do what they will both in Church and State some are so afraid others so unwil●…g to submit themselves to your Majesties government as they desire not you nor ●…y of your race longer to reign over them Yet the people are so wearied of the wars 〈◊〉 great burthens they groan under are so desirous of peace and loth to have Monar●…al government under which they have lived so long in peace plenty changed a such as are unwearied of your Maiesties government dare not attempt to cast it ●…lly off till once they send Propositions of peace to your Majesty lest the people ●…ithout whose concurrence they are not able to carry on their design should fall ●…m them And therefore all the people being desirous that after so great wars and ●…ubles they may have a perfect security from oppression and arbitrary power the ●…uses of Parliament have resolved upon the Propositions which are tendred to your ●…jesty as that without which the Kingdom and your people cannot be in safety 〈◊〉 most part of the people think that there cannot be a firm peace upon any other ●…mes Your Majesties friends and the commissioners from Scotland after all the ●…stling we could were forced to consent to the sending those Propositions or to ●…ated as the hinderers of peace and to send no Propositions at all And now Sir if 〈◊〉 Majesty which God forbid shall refuse to assent to the Propositions you will ●…all your friends lose the City and all the country and all England will joyn ●…nst you as one man and when al hope of reconciliation is past it is to be feared will processe and depose you and set up another Government they will charge 〈◊〉 deliver your Majesty to them and to render the Northern garrisons and to re●…e our Army out of England upon your Majesties refusing of the Propositions 〈◊〉 Kingdoms will be constrained for their mutual safety to agree settle Religi●… 〈◊〉 nd Peace without you which to our unspeakable grief will ruine your Majesty your posterity and if your Majesty reject our faithfull advice who desire no●…g on earth more then the establishmrnt of your Majesties throne and lose Eng 〈◊〉 by your wilfulnes your Majesty wil not be permitted to come ruine Scotland 〈◊〉 We have laid our hand upon our hearts we have asked counsell and direction 〈◊〉 God and have had our most serious thoughts about the Remedy but can find ●…her as affairs stand for the present to save your Crown and Kingdoms then Majesties assenting to the Propositions We dare not say but they are higher in some things if it were in our power and option to remedy it then we do approve of but when we see no other meanes for curing the distempers of the Kingdoms and closing the breaches between your Majesty and your Parliament Our most humble and faithful advice is that your Majesty would be graciously pleased to assen● to them as the only best way to procure a speedy and happy peace because your Majesty shall thereby have many great advantages You will be received again in you● Parliament with the applause and acclamations of your People by your Royall presence your friends will be strengthened Your enemies who fears nothing so much as the granting the Propositions will be weakened your Majesty will hav● a fit opportunity to offer such Propositions as you shall in your wisdome judg● fit for the Crown and Kingdom all Armies will be disbanded and you● people finding the sweet fruits of your peaceable Government your Majesty will gain their hearts and affections which will be your strength and glory and will recover all that your Majesty hath lost in this time of tempest and trouble And if it please God so to incline your Royal heart to this advice of your humb●… and faithfull servants who next to the honour of God esteem nothing more prec●ous then the safety of your person and crown Our actions shall quickly make appear to all the world That we esteem no hazard too great for your Majesties sa●●ty and that we are willing to sacrifice our lives and fortunes for establishing your Throne And now Sir we prostrate our selves at your Majesties feet and in the lowest p●sture of humility do beg That your Majesty may in end grant the suit of your 〈◊〉 humble servants and faithfull subjects who have no private aimes but only the g●…ry of God and safety of your Majesties person posterity and crown before 〈◊〉 eyes And the granting of our desires will revive our fainting spirits refresh our hearts which are overwhelmed and like to break with sorrow and will turn prayers and tears of the many thousands of your people in prayses to God and m●… them embrace your Majesty with acclamations of joy FINIS

SEVERALL SPEECHES Spoken by the Right HONOURABLE The Earle of LONDOUN Lord high Chancellour of the Kingdome of SCOTLAND AT A Conferen●e with a Committee of the Honourable Houses in the Painted Chamber October 1646. Proverbs 25.11 A word fitly spoken is like apples of gold in pictures of silver EDINBURGH Printed by Evan Tyler Printer to the Kings most Excellent Majesty 1646. Good Reader I Understand that the right Honourable the Lord Chancellour of Scotland had not right done him by the printed Copie of his Speech to the Kings Majestie at New-castle concerning the Propositions of Peace there being in that Copie Errours and Omissions and both material which hath moved me to resolve as to print the former according to the true Copie so for preventing the like mistakes and mis-representations first to procure to my self and now to communicate to the publike view the true transcrips of these last three Speeches In which thou shalt find the merit of an excellent subject to speak for it self for thou hast here a most solid judicious candid and plain debate concerning the best and most hopeful means of attaining a speedy and happy Peace which may put a period to the lasting miseries of these three Kingdoms Read and consider and beware thou do not receive with the left hand what is reached forth with the right This Noble Lord hath dealt freely and faithfully both with King and Parliament and as Truth and plain dealing did appear in his Speeches so what he spake is here faithfully imparted and thou maist be confident that in this it holds true 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Thine to serve thee for the Publike good G. A. The Lord Chancellour of Scotland his first Speech At a Conference in the Painted Chamber with a Committe of both Houses Octob. 1. 1646. My Lords and Gentlemen THe end of this Conference is to advise what is fit to be done for the Peace and Security of the Kingdomes in relation to the King and how to dispose of his Majesties Person which is a matter very ticklish and of most high concernment and they who would build very high must dig very low for a firm foundation And therefore I shall make bold to desire That what ever we resolve upon concerning the Kings Majesty it may be done by joint advice and consent of both Kingdoms and that the Unity between the Kingdomes may be inviolably preserved as that wherein next to Gods protection the chief strength of both lies which would be laid as a ground of our future debates And because the purpose we are to speak of is very grave and serious I shall speak of it with that sincerity as I wish my words were written with the beams of the Sun and registred to posterity that all the world might see the candor and integrity of our proceedings towards the King and our Brethren of England And is I had occasion once to expresse in this place so do I now say That no man hath conscience nor honour who will not remember our solemn League and Covenant as the strongest bond under heaven between God and man between man and man and between Nation and Nation in which our Unity is founded upon Verity in a threefold relation to God to the King and amongst our selves The first is the greatest and ascends as high as heaven for Religion which hath its name a religando unites us to God himself and so long as he is in League with us we need not fear who be against us Let us therefore hold fast our Unity in Religion and beware of Toleration of all Religions which is the ready way to have none for there is nothing more divine in God then Unitie and nothing more Diabolicall in the Divell then Division who therefore is known to the vulgar by his cloven foot to be the spirit of Division The next ground and relation of our Unity is with the King to whom we are bound in the strictest bonds of loyall Subjection by our Allegeance and Covenant as to one Head and Monarch and therefore the faithfull endeavours of both Kingdoms should without wearying be constantly contributed That we may be united to him by a happy and just Peace For if one of the Kingdoms shall cast off the King and the other have a King if the one shall make Peace with the King and the other not make Peace but be still at variance with him it is to be feared that no humane wit nor policie will be able to keep the two Kingdoms long without a rupture And if it please God so to incline the Kings heart and direct the wisdome of the Parliaments as that the King and wee could make a happy agreement no power or policie can be able to divide us for Qui conveniunt uni tertio conveniunt inter se The third ground and relation of our Unitie is the conjunction of the two Kingdoms which hath been acknowledged to be so necessary and usefull to both That they have often declared they would stand and fall and like Hippocrates twins live and dye together And therefore as we regard our solemn Covenant with God Almighty and tender the standing and safety of the Kingdomes let us with one heart and mind joyn our Counsels and Actions That whatsoever we resolve upon for our common Peace and Security in relation to the King and of each Kingdom to other that it be done in zeal to Religion in loyalty to the King and with unanimity amongst our selves And as the Pythagoreans did note the number of Two with the mark of Infamy ●…erus ●…ius ●…is est pri●…ausus disce●… ab u●…e as being the first number that durst part from Unity so which soever of the Kingdoms shall first violate the Unity which is bound up in our Covenant may apply it to themselves But if we shall adhere to that Unity which is builded upon the firm foundation of Verity in our relations to Religion the King and amongst our selves it will be a three-fold cord which is not easily broken and our Unity I hope shall be turned into an Identity both Kingdomes may be perfectly one Having thus in the first place laid a ground for Unity of Counsels and Resolutions I shall in the next place humbly desire and protest That what-ever may be our Propositions or Debates concerning the King it be not mis-construed as if one of the Kingdomes were imposing conditions upon the other or that we are absolutely wedded to any one desire more then to another but that all severall waies being amicably debated and rightly pondered That which may serve most for the safety security and happinesse of the King and both Kingdomes may be gravely resolved upon And now I come to the Question it self concerning the disposing of His Majesties Person first Negatively and then Positively Negatively the Question is not of the power and authoritie of the Houses of Parliament in disposing of any person or judging of any case which is of