Supra pag. 47. in case of heresie can depose only indirectly in as much as he can excoÌ„municate those who do adhere to an hereticall Prince and consequently compell them by imposition of some spirituall payne to depose him though he cannot depose directly And what saith Gerson That the power Ecclesiasticque cannot take vpon it power ouer the secular but in case of heresie or of impugning the faith The power Ecclesiastique saith (c) Gerson de pot Eccl. confiderat 22. tom 1. Gerson ought not to presume or vsurpe ouer the rightes dignities lawes and iudgments of the secular power but when the abusing of the secular power redoundeth to the manifest impugnatioÌ„ of the faith and the blasphemy of the Creatour and to the manifest iniury of the power Ecclesiastique For then a remembrance must be had of the last clause of this consideration that is that in such cases the power Ecclesiastique hath a certaine dominion and power regitiue directiue regulatiue ordinatiue And not only the Deuines but the Lawyers also be of the same opinion For to say nothing of those who haue further extended the Popes power as Iohn de Selue (a) Io. de Seiu eract de Benef. p. 3. q. 8. President of the Parlament of Paris (b) Ioan. Fab. in log 1. nu 10. c. de sum Trinit fide Cath. Iohn Faber Aduocate of the same Parlament Stephen Aufrerius (c) Aufr de potest saecul President of the Parlament of Tholouse But to restreyne my selfe to those who haue written expresly for the limiting of the Popes power when Maister Raoul de Presles Counsailour and Maister of Requests to King Charles the fifth translated by commandement of the same King the work intituled Of the Power Pontificall and Imperiall or Royall he proposed the 15. obiection for the Popes temporall authority in these wordes Item the Pope may absoâ—ue the vassalls or subiects from the oath of fidelity which is due to the temporall Lord which thing he would not do if he had not power in temporall matters And he made answere for the Princes in these wordes (d) Raoul de Presles imprimé en Almaine parles Protestants I answere to this argument say that in a case in which the Pope may haue action against a Prince he may also absolue the vassals from their oath of fidelity or which is more he may declare them absolued as in case of heresie of diuision of the faith or of contumacy against the Church of Rome And when the Chancelour of the same King Charles the fift composed in fauour of his Lord and Maister a dialogue of the Power Regall and Sacerdotall (e) Le songe dit Verger attribué par quelques vns au Chaunceleur des Domans par les autres a Philip de Mâ—giâ—s Cosâ—â—ller inâ—â—ne coÌ„fident du Râ—y Charles 5. he made answere by him who mainteyned the part of the Regal power That the power spirituall commaundeth not the secular but when the secular power intermedled it self in matters spirituall to the preiudice and hurt of the eternal good of the soule Behold his wordes (a) Lib. 1. c. 7.8 in res milit But there where the secular Prince would meddle in spirituall matters and do some thing in regard of his subiects to the detriment and hurt of their eternall saluation the spirituall power is then necessary which in such a case commaundeth and guideth the temporall And after this when Peter Gregory a lawyer of Tholouse vndertooke in his Treatise of the Republique the defence of the Regall authority against that of the Pope he alwaies excepted the cases of faith saith that the Pope could not depose Childerike of his owne authority that is to say without the instance of the French for he addeth (b) Petr. Gregor Tholof tract de Repub l. 6. cap. 5. Childerike was not an Heretike nor had commited any Ecclesiasticall crime wherby he should haue beene enforced to submit himself to the Iurisdiction of the spirituall Sea And againe Cest autheur est citè parles Anglois par â—auteritè temporel des Roys imprimè â—uecq priuilege verifie au ParlemeÌ„t The example of the Emperours ought not to be drawne for a president for other realmes principalities and gouerments which depend not vpon the Sea of Rome in temporall matters and care not much for her commandements in such matters I alwaies except as I haue said els where the cases of faith in which the Princes of what power and libertie soeuer they be are directly subiect to the Sea of Rome may be punished for the crymes they coÌ„mit in such cases Alwayes vnderstood that as the crimes be personal go not further then to persons deliâ—queÌ„t so the paine that is due to them infringeth not the right of the successâ—urs to their Kingdome But against this one obiectes three principall instaÌ„ces The first is taken from the resistance made by Philip the Fayre to the attempt of Pope Boniface The second is taken from the opposition of King Lewis the tweluth to the pretensions of Pope Iulius And the third is drawne from the arrest and Decree of the Parlament of Paris against Tanquerell To the first of these instances the defendours of the exception answere is that the subiect of the controuersy was not matter of heresy or of Apostacy from Christian Religion On the contrary the people of France gaue testimony to King Philip the Fayre that he was a great distroyer of the Bulgares (a) They anciently called the AsbigeÌ„ses Bulgares because the Bulgores held their heresie after that al Heretiques were by extension so called that is to say of Heretikes And as touching them who wrot for the King so farre were they from houlding that it is impiety to belieue that the Pope can for cry me of Religion disanull the Oath of fidelity and allegiance as they themselues alleaged amongst the meritorious workes of the Kings predecessours that his father died for the execution of the absolution which the Pope had giuen and graunted the Aragonians from their fidelity to their Prince Philip his Father say they (b) Act inter â—â—enif Thil. â—idch qâ— de poâ—â—st Pap. fol. 80. passed to God prosecuting in Aragon the Churches cause But the subiect of the quarrell was that the Pope pretended that the temporall soueraignty of France apperteyned vnto him Against this therefore the King opposed himselfe and all his Realme appealed not to the Pope but from the person of Boniface whome he maynteyned not to be Pope to the Councel to the Sea Apostolique when it should be prouided of a true Pope The King saith du Haillan (a) Du Hailan in his history of FraÌ„ce in the life of Philip the Fayre answered that sith Boniface was not the lawfull Pope he appealed for this fact to the Sea apostolique at that time destitute of Pope Pastour And King Philip the Fayre himself in the
Apostacy cannot be secured To this obiection the answere is short and easy For the Church intermedleth not her selfe with the absolution of the subiects but in the Ecclsiasticall Court and therin besides this payne and that of excommunication it imposeth not any other By meanes wherof it is so far from consenting that any attempt be made vpon the life of them whom it hath excommunicated as it abhorreth all fortes of killinges and murtheringes and especially such as be sudaine and vnexpected in regard of the losse of both body and soule which cōmonly go therin accompanied togeather And if they say that the Church ordayneth it not but that it is the cause that it is done for as much as the Common wealth conforming it selfe to the Churches iudgment and making the same decision in the tribunall politique if the Prince keepe on his former course declareth him a Tyrant and an enemy of the state and consequently subiecteth him to the power of the Lawes politique which permit the conspiring against Tyrantes for the making of them away and for killing of them we bring first this exception that there is great difference betweene Tyrantes of vsurpation whome the Lawes permit to extirminate by all manner of wayes and Tyrantes of administration and gouernement who are lawfully called to their Principality but gouerne it ill and we add that the Hereticall Princes who persecute the faith and their Catholike subiects be of the number of Tyrantes of administration and not of the number of Tyrants of vsurpation against whome alone it is permitted to conspire by clandestine and secret practises And if they further vrge and say that the politique Lawes permit conspiracies against the one and the other we answere that they are politique prophane and heathenish Laws as those of the ancient Romans or of the Grecians in former tymes and not Christian politique Lawes For the Christian politique Laws consider not only in their Princes the respect due vnto them for the good of temporall pollicy and the regard of the Maiesty of the Estate which they represent but they further consider in them the Image and vnction of God who hath called them to that Dignity in so much as in them who haue once had the lawfull vocation of Royalty what Tyrany soeuer they exercise the Christian politique Laws neuer passe so farre as to permit the vse of proscription against their persons or that any do attempt by clandestine or secret coniuration or conspiracy against their persons or liues but they carry the same respect to them that did Dauid to Saul notwithstanding he knew he were reiected 1. Reg. 26. cast of and reproued of God when he said Who shall extend his hand vpon the anoynted of our Lord and shal be innocent In so much as if the Christians be constrayned to defend their religion and their life against Hereticall and Apostata Princes from whose allegiance they were absolued the Christian politique Laws permit not more then what is permitted by military Lawes and the right of nations that is to say open warre and not clandestine and secret 〈…〉 and conspiracies For there alwaies remayneth in them a certain habitude to the dignity Royall as it were a marke of a politique character that discerneth them from simple particulers and when the obstacle and impediment is taken away that is when they come to amend themselues and to giue satisfactiō it restoreth them to the lawfull vse and exercise of their regality And therefore we see that in so many controuersies that the Popes haue had with tēporall Princes neuer any Pope went so far as to coūsell or to assent to the murthering of Princes Contrariwise if any calumniators laboured to impute it vnto them they haue euer iustified themselues euen with the horrour and abhomination of such actes remembring themselues of these wordes of S. Gregory when the Lombards made war vpon him If I would haue medled with the death of men Greg. lib. 7. epist 1. the Nation of the Lombards should at this day haue had neither King non gouernors But because I stand in feare of God I will not haue to moddle or deale with the death of any person And touching the other point of the last Inconuenience which is that this medly maketh the remedies that they would bring to the daunger of the Kinges to be not only vnprofitable but also pernicious and domageable there needeth not much eloquence to perswade it For if those who made the attempts vpon the liues of our Kinges were moued to those horrible parricides by a false imagination which they conceaued to wit that our Kings did something in preiudice of religion how much more would they haue thought they had a greater better pretext if they had beleeued that our Kings had abused their authority by the bringing in of schisme and the ouerthrowing of Religion and that they had seene themselues in schisme separated from the communion of the Sea Apostolique and cut off from the other partes of the Church And more then this who vnderstandeth not that there cannot happen any thing of more and greater daunger for the life and authority of Kinges then intestine and ciuill wars which schismes do ordinarily draw after them Moreouer who knoweth not that the cōtempt and indifferencie of Religion which must needes follow vpon schismes engendreth and occasioneth Impiety and Atheisme and taketh quite away all the respect that men are wont to carry to Kinges for the loue of God and for the reuerence of Religion which is the strongest corps or Court of Guard and the surest rampaire for the defence and security of their persons For when Religion is had in contempt men are not any longer withholden from attempting vpon the persons of Kinges then by force and by feare of the temporall paynes and therfore when they thinke they may do it without beeing punished or that they contemne and make no reckoning of the temporall paynes they haue no more bridle to conteyne them or to hold them in Finally who seeth not that there can be nothing worse for the safety of the persons and of the estate of Kinges then to stir vp and drawe vpon them by an ouerture of a new schisme and diuision from the Church Psal 75. the wrath of him who taketh away the spirits of Princes from out of the earth And heere Gentlemen I will not with you vse more reasons and argumentes but wil passe ouer to exhortations and intreaties and wil coniure you to remember that you are French men and that you are also Christians and Catholikes and that in treating touching the securing of Kinges you must not only cast your eies vpon the earth but also lift them vp to Heauen and you must not remedy their temporall safetie in causing them to forgo and loose the euerlasting nor prouide for your bodily part which is France by destroying and ruyning the spirituall parte which is the Church The Pope tolerateth and
endureth for the good of the Churches peace that the French-men that is to say some of them hold maynteyne in this point Doctrine contrary to his owne and to that of all the rest of the Church so they hold it only as problematicall in matter of faith that is to say that they propose it not as necessary to be held with that necessity which is of faith and declare not the other to be contrary to Gods word impious and detestable And though in the cases before specified there be ten Countries against but a parte of one an hundred Doctours against one ten Councells against none yet whether it be that these Councells do not therin expresse their intention by forme of decision of faith but by forme manner of supposition or for some other causes he is contented to hold the Doctrine contayned in them for true without binding vs to hold it for necessary as matter of faith he is contented to hold the contrary opinion for erroneous without binding vs to hold it for Hereticall and not to excommunicate them as Heretikes that hold it And wherefore then should wee now go about to breake the Churches communion to deuide the vnity of Christes body by turning into matter of fayth a doctrine which doth not only make the remedies which they would bring for the security of Kinges vnprofitable but further maketh them pernicious both to their persons and to their Kingdome There is no tyme wherin schismes be not most domageable and preiudiciall to religion and to State but they be most of all ruinous and pernicious to the one and the other when the tymes be already infected with heresy For as the Phisitians say that in the tyme of pestilence all sortes of feuers end in the plague so in the tyme of Heresy all schismes haue their ending in Heresy And therefore Heresie hauing now at this day so great part in France if we proceed to bring in a schisme among Catholikes who doubteth but that the fruite of this diuision will be the enfeebling and weakning of the Church and the strengthning of Heresy And if Heresy euen when she is weakest hath so much ado to keep herselfe quick how will she continue in peace when she shall once come to an equality And if we breake it how shall she be able to disturbe the peace of Religion without troubling therewithall the Kinge and the State also It is certayne Gentlemen the scope and intention of them that first moued this stone of scandall was not to prouide for the security of the State and the person of our Kinges Their drift and intention was to cast the seedes of diuision in the Church of France and to assay either to separate it from the other partes of the Church or to deuide it within it self I say not this to taxe you I honour you all as persons of singular wisedome and merit and most affected to the Catholike Religion But I know you are not the first authors and inuentors of this Article I know that it hath beene craftily thrust into some of your seates It is not long tyme since they haue menaced and threatned vs with this apple of discord These be those that be already seuered from vs and haue by this meanes thought to sow some sparcles of diuision amongst vs and for this end they haue serued themselues of men who carry the name of Catholikes and more then that of Ecclesiasticall persons and for the vndermining beguiling of the ingenuity good disposition and simplicity of others vnder the title of seruice to the King The pretext they haue taken is fayre it is specious it is ouer shadowed with the name of the King but vnder this couer is hiden schisme and the designe of making a diuision in the Church These be the Vlissesses fighting vnder Achilles his buckler When Iulian the Apostata meant to draw the Christians to the adoration of the false Gods he caused the Idolls of Iupiter Venus and Mercury to be intermixed and put in company with his owne pictures to the end that when they should present his owne Images to the Christians to adore as it was the custome then for the people to adore the Images of their Emperour the Christians either refusing to do it should be accused of high treason as hauing refused to adore the Emperours Image or in doing it be constreyned ioyntly with the Image of the Emperour to adore Idolls These men haue heere done the very same hauing intermedled in one and the same Article a decree of the securing of Kinges together with an introduction of schisme to the end that those who shal refuse this oath should put themselues in daunger either to be esteemed litle affectioned to the seruice of Kinges or to be thought culpable of schisme And therefore you must not suffer your selues to be beguiled by this first bayte It is of hony but yet of hony that hath beene made by drone bees that haue gone from one flower of hemlock to another that is to say by soules that haue tasted and sucked the venome of schisme Aristotle writeth that we must behold pleasures not before but behind not when they are comming but when they are gone past In like manner in this there be specious pretextes you must regard and behold them not by the face that is to say by the first sight but by the back that is by the sequele and successe This Oath resembleth Horace his Mōster which hath the head of a fayre and beautifull woman that is the pretence of the seruice and safety of Kings but it hath a fishes tayle that is the tayle of Schisme and of diuision in Religion And indeed it may well be said to haue a fishes tayle seeing it is come swymming by sea from England For it is the very same Oath of England sauing that of England is yet more sweete and more modest moderate I will not prosecute this point for feare to offend the most Renowned King of Great Britany I am setting aside religion his most humble and most affectionate seruant I do in a most high degree esteeme honour his learning his eminent morall vertues and his excellent naturall conditions and I find nothing to be desired by me in him that might expresse not a fayned Image made at pleasure as that of Cyrus by Xenophon but the true and reall image of a perfect and complete Prince the title of Catholike only excepted Hee hath bound in generall all men of learning vnto him hauing made the Muses to sit in his Royall throne and he hath obliged me in particuler for hauing pleased to take the paynes to enter with me into the listes of dispute of Diuinity not to do as did Alexāder who disdayned to enter into the Olympian race if he were not to run his course against Kinges I therefore touch not this string for feare of offending I know that holding the religion he doth he thinketh to do what
all this while that French Catholikes were in this poynt agreeing rather with the Parlament in England then the Church of Rome But God be praised the curtaine is drawne at length which heretofore hath parted the stage from the attyring house and now the spectatours who are as many of our Country as can write and read may seâ— that such as plead the partes of ciuill rich and religious persons are many of them no better then insolent beggarly and lewd companions This worke is performâ—d in this Oration following wherewith I haâ—e thought good to present the courteous Reader composed and prâ—nounâ—ed by that ornament of our age the Cardinal of Peron a man so well knowne to the world for the great childes portion which the father of all good thinges hath allotted out vnto him of incomparable learning prudence and zeale towardes the Catholique Faith It pleased God by his meanes long since to conuert the last King of France from his erroneous beliefe to make the said Cardinall amongst others an Instrument of compounding that busines of the Venetians whereupon the peace of the Church did in some sort depend and now this honour was only wanting to him that he should be the meanes to restore one of the noblest members of the Church for so we may without any vanity to the glory of God esteeme the English Catholikes who with so admirable grace and strength are stil swimming through the bitter waues of persecution to the honour of only suffering for that faith which other Catholike Countries do professe wherof our Aduersaries haue studied so earnestly to depriue vs whilest they say the doctrine conteyned in the Oath of Allegiance is impugned by vs out of singularity or seditious humour and that our next neighbouring Churches of the same Communion would acknowledge and confesse the same But I must not reflect so particulerly vpon the dignity of the Cardinalls person and the extreme obligation which al good English Catholikes haue to him as therby to neglect the setting forth of the aduantaâ—e which our cause hath got by his Oration For although it were not a matter of small importance if it had beene deliuerâ—d by himself but as a priuate man yet it ought to rise to another manner of accoumpt when it appeareth that as the stile thereof was ordered by his eloquence and the sound thereof pronounced by his voyce so also the substance and strength of it did spring euen from the hart roote of the whole Clergy of France represented by those Archbishops and Bishops and other Prelates there assembled and was both ioyfully receaued and clerely auowed by the whole Nobility of France assembled also and represented in lik maÌ„ner Now to the end good Reader that thou mayâ—st runne through with moâ—e facility and be able with more syncerity to discerne of that which is conteyned in the Oration I will make thee acquainted with the occasion therof and premise also some few other thinges whereof perhaps thou art ignoranâ— and which may serue to set thy iudgment straight in that which followeth The Parlaments in France haue no resemblance to ours in England but are certaine sedentary and supreme Courts of Iustice compounded only of Lawyers who iudge without appeale within their seuerall precinctes of Iurisdiction Of these Courtes there are eight in France all independant on of another though the Parlament of Paris haue a Country vnder it of greater extent and by residing in that Citty which is the ordinary habitation of the French Kinges it hath growne to that kind of amâ—ition and vsurpation which some Patriarchs of Constantinople and some Bishops of Rauenna haue been subiect to in different causes but vpon like occasions That which in France doth answere the nature of our English Parlament is the holding of the three Estates Generall the Clergy the Nobility and the Communalty which last is called the Third Estate but it is with this difference amongst others that they sit in three seuerall Chambers whereas the two former of ours sit in one and wheras with vs an Act is not presented to the King vnles the maior part of both our Houses or Chambers do finde it good in France if the maior part of two Chambers do resolue vpon any proposition it is to go vnder the name of all the Three Estates although one of them should dissent therin This supposed I wil proceed to informe thee courteous Reader that the greater number of the deputies of the third Chamber in this last Assembly of the Estates in France did conceaue frame the forme of an Oath which they wished might be ministred in that Kingdome as that which beares the name of Allegiance is in ours whereby the same principall Article is â—biured namely that no French King can be deposed nor his subiects absolued from their obedience by any Pope for any cause whatsoeuer and that the contrary opinion is Hereticall and repugnant to the doctrine of the Scriptures But this difference is found betweene the two Oathes that whereas the English one in one of the clauses seemes to exclude not only the authority of the Church ouer Kinges but euen of the CoÌ„mon wealth also yea though it should be accompanied with that of the Church that of France shooâ—es only at the abnegation of the Churches authority Nor is there a man in that Kingdome who appeares to h ld that Kinges in certaine cases are not subiect to the censure of the Common wealth And as for the Parlament of Paris in particuler who knowes not that diuers of that body haue now helped to animate the Prince of Condé and his complices to take armâ—s against the King and Queene of France vpon the supposall which they make of the ill Gouernment of that Kingdome But howsoeuer thaâ— case standes this Oath was drawne by the Chamber of the Communalty which in France is called the Third Estate and reiected as conteyning false and wicked doctrine by both the Chambers of the Clergy and Nobility and coâ—sequently for the reason that I gaue before by the Estate Generall Some man perhaps amongst oâ—r English aduersaries may obiect that notwithstâ—nding the custome and stile of France doth beare that whatsoeuer is authorized or reprâ—oued by any two of the Chambers doth take the name of all the threâ— yet it makes exceedingâ—y for the credit of our Oath of Allegiance that they of the Third Estate in France which is the greatest member of that body should c nspire in opinion with the Authours of our English Oath though they be of a contrary Religion to the Protestant in other thinges and esteemed the most deuout professours of it in that Kingdome I answere that this argument may looke fayre a far off but with such as know how thinges were carried it will fall out to be of no force at all It is to be vnderstood that this Chamber of the Third Estate was wholy in effect compounded of Lawyers most of them belonging to the Court of Parlament
the dishonoring and abusing of his Church to giue the greatest contribution that could be wished to the Dignity and Maiesty of the same Who knowes not that the holding of these Estates in France was pursued only in effect by certaine irreuerent semi-Catholikes who loue nothing lesse then the splendour and vigour of Ecclesiasticall discipline and â—urisdiction Who knowes not that as soone as the said Estates were opened that rotten member which tooke the name of the Third Estate discouered that Canker which hath been feeding gredily vpon it especially since the introduction of heresy into that Kingdome by plodding vpon some course how to make an Idâ—ll of the temporall power of Kinges in respect of the reuerence due to Popes and so far to abuse the authority of the Apostolike Sea as that they would redoubt it no more then a meere Scarcrow or Chymera And yet we see God hath fetcht the Treacle of which I haue spoken from the poyson that grew in the festred bowells of his Enemies for if that French Oath had not been propounded by those Lawyers the contrary doctrine and beliefe of the Church of France had not beene protested by those Prelates Shall the prouidence therefore of God be able to watch so fruitfully ouer the Catholike Church of France and shall the narrow seas be broad inough to keepe him from shewing his power in England to our comfort and the confusion of such as either know him not or care not for him nay rather let vs learne by this that when our persecuting Ministers do most conspire our ruine then shall we be surest of Gods present help when the graue shal be finished wherin they hope to bury vs aliue incident in foueam quam fecerunt it is then that they are likeliest to die in the same ditch which they made for vs. Courage therfore is that which we are to beg at the hands of God who knowes not how to forsake but such as confide not in him It was said long ago by one who had no supernaturall â—ssistance wherby his crosses were to be asswaged Si longus leuis si magnus breuis but we haue infinitly more reason to assure our selues then he that if our persecution linger on it wil be lightned if it increase it wil be shortned Nor ought we be without hope but that it may be both short and light when his Maiestyes Excellent Iudgment shall haue obserued which in all likelihood he hâ—th already done by he ensâ—ing Oration and other bookes that his Catholiâ—e subiects hoâ—d no other opinions in fauour of the Sea Apostolike but such as are common to those Cathoâ—iâ—es that are accounted euen the most remisse iâ— Europe That there is no Protestant Church which hath declared this proposition to be true That a King can neuer be deposed by any authority vnder heauen nor his subiects be absolued from the Oath of Allegiance which once they made for any incorrigible crimes whatsoeuer That on the other side rebellions of sâ—biects against their naturall Princes haue growne familia since â—rotestancy brake loose and haue been as it were haâ—cht by that sect in England Scotland Holland Sweueland Germany Switzerland Geneua and most often in France wherof truâ— histories makâ— particuâ—e mention And 〈◊〉 that should not be able to read or vnderstanâ— a booke might see the matter verified euen at this instant in the Kingdome of France where the Prince Protestant of them all is vexing his King by all the power he hath either of credit or other meanes hauing drawne to his lure many others of both Religions That since his Maiesty hath beene ill counselled and vâ—ged by Ministers amongst all whome there hath nâ—uer yet beene any one good man of State he hath gotten nothing lesse then that they aymed at which was That Regall Authority now that it is imployed in their defence should be as superstitiously adored as in Queene Maries dayes both of England and Scotland when their religion receaued a check it was irreligiously decried and disgraced For now insteed of being held a kind of Diuinity vpon earth which notion mens mindes were fitter for before they were opened by such Oathes they are growne to lookeâ— abroad vpon that light which they were wont to be afraid would dazell their eies and at last are come so neere vnto it as that they touch and handle it by the discourse of reason and experience which tells them that Kingly Authority cannot come immediatly from God to any man but by miracle That all the Kinges whome we know do either rule by force of conquest and in that case the authority of the CommoÌ„ wealth if it be vsurped may be resumed or by Donation Election Marriage or Succession of bloud in which cases Kings forfait by not performing the conditions vnder which either they or their first auncestors did enter whether they were expressed or necessarily implied Necessarily I say implied for supposing that a people who was without question the first owner of supreme authority vpon earth should cause a King to gouerne them without obliging him in particuler to do this or that it were a Barbarous conceipt to thinke that it were in his law full power to Tyrannize ouer them at his pleasure without hauing respect either to their defence in time of warre or the administration of Iustice in tyme of peace for which only respectes they made him King If this discourse be true in case of Kinges euen by the Law of Nature and of Nations how much more shall it be so amongst Christian Kinges who in their Baptisme do their homage to the Faith of Christ and at their Coronations do sweare the mayntenance of Religion and Iustice which are the conditions expressed whereupon the progenitours of the most absolute Christian Kinges were placed in their Royall Throne These thinges I say are growne into the consideration of men and strikes the reasonable part of their soules with such an euidence and demonstration of truth as no formulary of an Oath though perhaps for feare or fashion sake they may chance to accept therof will euer be able to wipe out Some questions there may be betweene men of different Religions as hath beene toucht to whom the iudgment ouer Kings for their offences may belong some holding that this Iurisdiction resides in the Church some in the Common Wealth some in both together and some others other seuerall opinions which are not so much worth the specifying but all the Christian Congregations of all Religions in the world do agree in this that all Kinges for hideous crimes may fall from their dignity and their subiectes may be absolued from their Oath of fidelity Nay I haue not heard euen in England where our Oath of Allegiance was enacted nor in France where the like was offered that when the generall propositions which were conteyned in both the formularies were well deduced into particulers men would be drawne to subscribe and sweare thereto otherwise then forced by feare
which this vertue hath shined and beene flourishing it is this in which we liue I will not speake of the glory of the Druides or ancient Sacrificers in whose handes the Gauls had put the execution of iustice with intent to make it sacred and venerable to the people by the quality of the persons that should exercise it I omit the care and zeale our Kinges did beare to the practise of Iustice themselues becomming ministers and distributers not only in their first and second race but likewise in the third To say nothing of the splendour of our Courtes of Parlament and in particuler of this great and high Parlament of Paris wherof the reputation hath beene such amongst forraine Princes that they themselues often made choyce of it for their iudge and arbitrator in causes of greatest importance It shall suffice me to affirme of our Nation that it hath euer beene so famous and florished in the exercise of this vertue that the very womeÌ„ amongst the Gauls were hertofore esteemed better able to administer Iustice then the men of al other Prouinces For when Hannibal receaued and incorporated the Gauls in his Army in his passage to the Conqest of Italy it was agreed on that if at any tyme there should arise any difference betweene the two Nations if the Carthaginians were plaintifs the verdict should belong to the Tribunall of the Carthaginians resident in Spaine and if the Gauls found themselus agrieued the decision was referred to the Dames of France And therefore Gentlemen our Kinges hauing assigned the keeping and disposing of this precious treasure in the hands and custody of your Order it is not without cause that we honour and respect you not only as ministers and interpreters of Themis but as such her interpreters in the chiefest Tribunall she hath vpon earth And now Gentlemen this Themis this Dicas this â—lustice it selfe which teacheth you to render to euery one his due inspired you likewise from the first meeting of the States to render aboue al other thinges what you owe to God to his Religion and to his Ministers making you therby to imitate the example of those great Law-giuers and Sages the Romans your Predecessours who carried so great respect to Diuine thinges that although the Religion was false yet notwithstanding because in this false Religion they pretended as S. Augustine sayth to honour the true Deity it pleased the same God to recompence their zeale with temporall graces and benedictions wherby they raysed their Empire aboue the cloudes For then you gaue vs testimony by diâ—ers Embassages that you held vs for your parents as the Pastours and Directours of your soules and such as liued in continuall watchfulnes to render accompt of them to Almighty God For the which we haue of tentimes giuen you many and harty thankes But that which did most assure vs that you practised effectually what you gaue testimony of by wordes was the last occasion which presented it selfe For vpon the newes which was sent vnto vs of a certain article touching the security of Kinges intituled a Fund a mentall Law proposed resolued amongst your selues where there was matter of Religion mixt with interest of state you were contented to be perswaded by the learned and eloquent informations deliuered you in our names by the Archbishop of Aix and the Lord Bishop of Mumpelier to communicate the matter with vs and ioyntly to receaue our opinion therof For this cause Gentlemen the Ecclesiasticall assembly hath chosen sent me vnto you First to giue you thankes for the honour you pleased to do them heerin then to let you vnderstand their opinion concerning as wel the substance as circumstaÌ„ces of your Article And they haue especially giuen me in charge aboue all other thinges to render you infinite thankes and prayse your zeale in prouiding so carefully for the security of the life and person of our Kinges withall protesting that they all conspire together with you in this thought and extraordinary feeling of yours and that from the bottome of their hartes and soules For they lament and shall neuer cease mourning with teares of bloud the tragicall and detestable Assassinats which haue wronged and defiled the memory of this age with two so horrible parricides and do find in themselues so much greater obligation to haue their hartes pierced with this grief by how much more they must acknowledge themselues tyed with strayter bandes then any other Orders to mayntayne and stand affected to the Sacred Person of our Kinges I meane not to enlarge my selfe for the present in telling you how God hath put into their handes the light of his word to lighten other orders and how the Clergie must march formost and direct others by doctrine and example in seruing well and faithfully those whome God hath placed ouer his people Only thus much out of meere humane considerations There is no profession so straitly bound in all fidelity and loyalty to our Princes as the state Ecclesiasticall For other states come to offices honours and dignities of the realme some of them as the Gentelmen Nobility at the dearest rate of all other with losse of their bloud and perill of their liues others besides their merit by contribution of some part of their goodes and commodities But as for vs we atteyne them by the only grace and fauour of our Kinges without hazard or imployment of ought either of life goods or honours Neither by any other meanes beeing as we are naked and vnarmed can we enioy our quiet or commodities but vnder the shaddow of the peaceable and prosperous affaires of the King being otherwise exposed as a prey to all sortes of wronges and outrages And therefore what man of sound iudgment can liue in doubt but that we haue more interest then any other in his conseruation in whose life as within some fatall brand all our liues and fortunes are comprized Wee therefore alike ioyne issue with you in this your zeale and feruency of passion and do alike condemne nay more if possible may be the perfidious butchery of those monsters which dare aduenture on Sacred personages of Kinges But with all desiring you to enter into consideration that as the only lawes sufficient to restaine those who set at naught their liues are the Ecclesiasticall which curbe those spirits that contemne death with the apprehension of those paynes after death So must we carefully take heed not to insert any thing into those lawes but that which is held for certaine and vndoubted by the whole Church for feare of disabling the authority of that which is certaine infallible by mixture of that which is doubtfull and in contention For experience hath taught vs too well that humane lawes only and apprehension of temporall punishment can neuer serue for sufficient remedy to such euills as proceed from a peruerse and corrupted imagination of Religion We must haue therefore lawes of conscience such as work on our soules and keep
notwithstanding what Azarias the high Priest said vnto him taken the Censar in hand to offer incense before the Altar the high Priest iudging it to be the leprosy did thrust him out of the Temple and from conuersing with the people by that meanes caused that the administration and gouernment of the Kingdome was taken from him and transferred to his sonne though among other nations the leprosy depriued none of conuersation with others nor of the gouernment of the Common wealth witnesse wherof is Naaman 4. Reg. 5. who was Generall of the warfarre of the King of Syria and Gouernour of his whole Kimgdome Finally to passe from thinges figured to things literal 1. Mach. 2. seq they allege the story of Matathias high Priest the head of the family house of the Machabees who seeing Antiochus who raigned in Iury to haue an intent to force the Iewes in their ancient customes and to ouerthrow their law and to persecute them by punishmentes torments death tooke armes gathered Gods dispersed seruantes together who effected wrought so much vnder his cōduct and his sonnes as they deliuered the people from the yoke of the Seleucides and tooke from them the Kingdome of Iury and by that meanes conserued the religion of the Iewes which without such a resolution fauoured by Gods visible assistance had els beene quite exterminated and abolished out of the land Those who hold the negatiue part come downe to the new Testament and cite for themselues this passage of S. Rom. 13. Paul where he writeth Let euery soule be subiect to higher Powers 1. Petr. 2. For he that resisteth the power resisteth the order instituted of God And this of S. Peter Be ye subiect whether it be to Kings as more excelling or to Rulers And by this they inferre that obedience to Kinges is of Right Diuine and therefore cannot admit dispensation by any authority neither spirituall nor temporall The maynteyners of the affirmatiue part answere to this that these passages do not in any sort touch the knot or difficulty of the controuersie For the question say they is not whether it be de Iure diuino to obey Kinges whilest they are Kinges or knowne for Kinges But the question is if it be de Iure diuino that he who hath beene once known acknowledged for King by the body of Estate may cease to be that is that he may do some thing by which he commeth to loose and forgo his rights to cease to be acknowledged for King Now these two questions be farre different For to take an example euen of him vnder whome S. Peter suffered martyrdome it was de Iure diuino to obey Nero whilest he was Emperour But it was not de Iure Diuino say they that he could not fall from his Imperiall rightes and be deposed and declared an enemy of the Common wealth It was de Iure diuino so long as Antiochus was by the Community of the Iewes acknowledged for King that the Iewes should obey him in matters that were not against God For he was no lesse temporall soueraigne of the Iewes then was the Emperour Claudius vnder whome S. Peter wrote But after that Mattathias the high Priest and the rest of the nation of the Iewes who liued conforme to their owne law had declared him a Tyrant and a violatour of the consciences of the people of God therefore no more their lawful Prince the particuler Iewes were then no longer bound to yeild him obedience And not only the defenders of the affirmatiue parte but euen M. Barcklay himselfe who is the principall propugner of the negatiue part vseth this distinction and sayth Controuers Menarch Mach. l. 4. cap. 16. There is not any case wherin the people can rise against a Prince ruling after an insolent manner so long as he continueth King For this commandement of God is alwaies against it Honour the King and he that resisteth power resisteth God And therfore the people cannot haue by any other means authority ouer him vnles he do something by which he by right ceaseth to be King And els where they adde 1. Petr. 2. what S. Peter writeth Rom. 13. Be subiect to euery creature whether it be to King as excelling or to Rulers as sent by him And S. Hebr. 13. Paul Let euery soule be subiect to higher powers And the same Apostle writeth els where in more expresse words thus Obey your Prelates and be ye subiect vnto them For they watch for your soules as those who ought to render accompt Hence it ariseth that it is as wel de iure diuino to yeild spirituall obedience to Prelates as it is to yeild temporall obedience to Princes And yet it followeth not that it is de iure diuino that the Prelates no not the Pope himselfe cannot fall from their rights of Prelacy nor that it is de Iure diuino to continue to obey them after they haue lost their right But the defendours of the negatiue part obiect that the Church which liued vnder the first Pagan Emperours neuer made vse of this right of absoluing in the spirituall Court the Christians from the Oath they had made vnto them And contrariwise that the first Christians preached not any other thing then obedience that they yeilded to the Emperours To this againe the maynteyners of the affirmatiue part answere many thinges For first they say that the Church not hauing absolued the Christians of the Oath of fidelity by thē made to the Pagan Emperours all the Christians in particuler were bound euen in conscience to obey them and pray to God for the safety and prosperity of their Empire And as touching the cause for which the Church did not take away the spirituall obligation the Christians had to obey them they bring three reasons The first is For that it had beene ouer great imprudency and folly to irritate and incense the Pagan Emperours by such a declaration in a time when they were the Lordes of the whole world for that such an act could haue beene not only vnprofitable but also absolutly domageable pernicious to the Christians against whom to incense the Emperour at such time as they had all the forces and the world within their handes was not to succour or promote religion but to precipitate ouerthrow it cleane For it is not sufficient to say that the Church is bound to doe some thing because she may lawfully do it vnlesse she also can doe it with prudence and profit The second reason is For that there is great difference betweene the Pagan Emperours vnder whome the Church began to lay her first foundations and to take the first rootes and the Princes who should now fall into Heresy or into Apostacy from Christian religion and should become either Arians or Mahometans or Pagans For the Pagan Emperours who then were had not yet at that tyme done homage to Christ nor yielded
time the Christian people hath by the conuersion of Emperours and Empires and by the reduction of Kinges and Kingdomes beene gayned and consecrated to Iesus Christ his temporal raigne it cannot any more be vsurped nor possessed by way of right by the enemies of Christs name And hence it is that whatsoeuer Conquest the Turke maketh of the Christians and whatsoeuer possession of long continuance it be he cannot by any tract of tyme gaine the least inch of prescription ouer Christian people who were formerly subiect to Christes temporall tribunall before any such Conquest by him made And to say the contrary were not only to imbrace and hod one of Luthers errours who hath taught that the warre that the Christians made against the Turkes was vniust and vnlawful not only to cōdemne the authority of so many Councells which haue decreed the expeditions of the holy Land for the ayding of the Christians of the East for the deliuering of them from the yoke and seruitude of the Infidells which had beene a thing vniust For the Accessary followeth the Principall and if the Christians of the East had beene lawfull subiectes to the Mahometan Princes they neither could haue reuolted from them nor rebelled against them But also euen to anathematize and accurse the memory of so many Christian Worthies and to affirme that so many Knightes Princes and Kinges among them our most glorious S. Lewis who dying in that warre as Champious maynteyners of Christes cause pretended to gayne the Crowne of Martyrdome dyed in a cause vniust and worthie of damnation But those who defend the negatiue part reply and say that in tyme of the first Arian Emperours Constantius and Valens before whome the Empire had already acknowledged Christ Iesus the Church vsed not such manner of proceeding nor acquited the Christians of their obedience On the contrary that the Bishop Hosius writing vnto the Emperour Constantius Apud Athana in epist desolit vit agen saith vnto him in these wordes As he who would spoyle you in your Empire should resist Gods ordenance So I feare that your vsurping the authority of the Church will make you culpable of a great cryme To this then the defendants of the affirmatiue part answere two thinges The one that the Custome of obliging Princes to make an expresse oath vnto God and to their people to liue and to die in the Christian and Catholique Religion had not yet place in the tymes of the first Heretique or Apostata Emperours was not brought in but afterwards namely then when they would stay and hinder Religion from falling into the same perills wherin it was vnder them The other that the Church vsed not this proceeding not for default of Right but for want of force and strength not for want of power in it to ordeyne it but through want of ability in the Christian people to execute it For it is not inough to bind the Church to declare Princes Infidells to haue lost their rightes to exhort their subiects to depart from their obedience that she may lawfully do it but it is further necessary that she be able to do it prudently and profitably And therefore S. D. Tho. 2.2 2. q. 10. art 10. Thomas after he had said Infidells by the desert of their Infidelity be worthy to loose their power ouer the faithfull addeth But this the Church sometimes doth and sometimes doth it not And if we should conclude that because the ancient Church hath not declared the first Arian Emperours excluded from the right they had from God of commaunding Catholiks that therefore she had not the authority to do it we then should conclude the very same that because it excommunicated them not it had no authority to do it For we find not that any either Pope or Councell did euer namely and personally excommunicate the Arian Emperours Not for that the Church cānot excōmunicate them as wel as other Ariās whome it excōmunicated from tyme to tyme but for that it deemed it a matter of imprudency and pernicious to Religion to exasperate them not hauing forces to represse and curbe them And as touching Hosius they āswere that he saith not that the Church cānot absolue in the spiritual Court the Catholiks from the obedience of Cōstantius if she should haue thought it profitable possible and necessary for them to attempt the deliuery of themselues from his tyranny Neither saith he that if the Emperour Constance being a Catholique Prince had not beene dead and that he had declared and proclaymed warre against his brother Constantius as he threatned he would do if he ceased not to persecute the Catholikes the Catholikes of the East would not haue ioyned taken part with him and would not haue belieued that the Church could haue dispensed with them about their oath of fidelity they had made to Constantius Theod. hist Eccles lib. 2. cap. 9. alibi But they say that Hosius speaketh of them who of their priuate authority and of their owne ambition raised themselues against Constantius to depriue him of the Empire and to become Tyrantes themselues Yet Lucifer Calaritanus maketh no difficulty Lucif Cola. rit lib. de non parcend in Deum delinq to call Constantius himselfe A Tyrant and the Antiochus of his age and protesteth that he is not bound towardes him to obserue the modesty of wordes which the Apostle commaundeth to be obserued to Princes and Magistrates for as much as the Apostle speaketh of Princes who haue not yet belieued in Christ and not of such Princes as haue reuolted from Christ I adde saith he that the Apostle speaketh of Princes and Magistrates which haue not yet belieued in the only Sonne of God whome we should by our humility and meeknes and long patience in aduersity and most great obedience in thinges reasonable prouoke to belieue in him But those who hold the negatiue part Socrat. hist Eccl. lib. 3. cap. 19. reply that the Christians might well haue deposed the Emperour Iulian the Apostata For when the Emperour Iouian who was elected after his death Theod. lib. 4. cap. 1. answered the soldiers of the Army Sozom. lib. 6. cap. 1. that he would not haue a commaund ouer men who were not Christians they replyed that they were Christians And to this againe they who maynteyne the affirmatiue part want not their answere For on the contrary they auerre that the Church could not do it prudently nor profitably For besides that the Christians were so deuided as the faction of the Arians alone ioyned with the Heathens without speaking of other Heretikes or of the cold Catholikes who as S. Gregory Nazianzene saith Greg. Naz. in Iul. orat serued the tyme and had not as he further addeth other law then the Emperours will held their foote vpon the Catholike Churches throate And besides when Iulian was Emperour he was so far from persecuting the Catholikes at the first as that in
the ouerturning and ruining of all Catholike Religion then to say that the Church which hath decided them hath done it without authority and was not at that tyme any more Christes Church but Antichristes Concubine See therefore wherunto these men leade vs who compell vs to sweare that it is a doctrine contrary to Gods word impious and detestable to hold that subiects in some cases may be absolued of their fidelitie And this proposition they would haue vs put in the same conclusion of faith and vnder the same decree of Anathema with that of the murthering of Kinges THERE remayneth the last Inconuenience which I promised to examine which is that this medly doth not only make the remedie that they would bring to the daunger of Kinges to be vnprofitable but more then that to be pernicious and domageable And now I beseech you Gentlemen before I enter into the matter to permit me to tell you that I giue not place in affection to the seruice of the King to any of my Countrymen I am a French man borne and the sonne of a French man and I haue neuer but respected our Kinges I haue neuer in fact of State cast mine eyes vpon others God lending me my right wits I will neuer turne mine eyes away I haue beene nourished brought vp intertayned and raysed vp vnder the winges of my Soueraigne King Henry the third haue alwayes continued an adherent to his fortunes whilest he liued After his death I followed likewise the fortune of the deceased King Henry the Great of glorious memory and that with a good and with a sound conscience euen according to the Maximes as well of those who defend the affirmatiue part as of those who hold the negatiue For to say nothing of the word of Relapse that was by bad information imputed vnto him he was neuer either persecutour or incorrigible On the contrary after the tyme of his predecessors death he promised to procure to informe himself and be instructed and in his greatest affayres he did me the honour to confer with me in secret about the points of our faith for the preparing of himselfe to his Conuersion I brought him by the grace of God back or the grace rather by me to the Catholike religion I obteyned his absolution at Rome of Pope Clement the 8 and reconciled him with the Sea Apostolike Actions by which he effected and wrought the recouery of his Estate and the restoring of you all to your houses commodities and fortunes I euer serued him after that supporting vpholding the honour and rightes of his Maiesty in a more affectionate manner then I tendred mine owne life not here where it is an easy matter to extoll the Kinges soruice and to commend as the saying is the Athenians at Athens but out of his owne Kingdome and there where matters were canuased and disputed vpon And of this also I haue receaued for a signe and testimony of approbation of my seruice all these honours commodities I am now possessed of for as much as I neuer receaued neither goods nor dignities but of him It is he alone who hath aduanced me and raysed me vp to a Bishop Archbishop and Cardinall He made me Great Almenour and bestowed vpon me the meanes and prouisions necessary for the helping of me towards the susteyning and bearing out a part of these charges And from the King his Sonne I continue the enioyng and possession of the same benefits and good turnes without hoping or desire of hope of gratificatiō from any other And therfore Gentlemen you ought to be belieue that I am not moued in this for any other interest then for his seruice and for the conseruation of the Catholike Religion in preseruation whereof is comprehended both the spirituall and temporall safety of himself of his estate For the first branch then of our last opposition which is that the mixtion of contentious matters maketh the remedy which they would bring for the daunger of Kinges vnfruitfull and vnprofitable we haue already said inough from the beginning For seeing we will agree both the one the other that the tēporall laws the paynes penalties imposed vpon the body do not any waies serue the turne or be inough to preuent auert put by these wicked attemptes and that we must make recourse to spirituall lawes and to the paynes that be exercised after death that is to say to the lawes of excommunication and of damnation eternall and for that reason teacheth vs that the lawes of Anathema and of excommunication make not any impression in the soules if they be not belieued to proceed from an infallibleauthority how is it when there shal be intermixed some clause contestated called into question by the rest of the Church that they will serue for a bridle to those who feare nothing but the paynes and tormentes of the soules And how shall such lawes imprint the terrour and feare of Anathema in mindes that shall belieue that the lawes themselues be subiected to Anathema On the contrary how will they not quite ouerthrowe the good and sufficient remedies that the generall Councells whereof the authority is infallible haue instituted for the safety of Kinges which they would take from vs by the medly of other thinges wherevnto the vniuersall Church doth not agree I haue sayd good sufficient remedies for the safety of Kinges which they would haue taken from vs For who knoweth not that if the infernal monsters who made the attemptes vpon the liues of our two last Kinges had read the Ecclesiastical lawes they had found their damnation expressed in the decree of the Councell of Constance And therefore it was not for default of Ecclesiasticall lawes that they committed those two most horrible murders but for this that they had not read them or rather by occasion of an enraged and diuellish malice wherewith they were possessed But they will reply that it was not inough for the securing and assuring of the life of Kinges that the Church hath decreed vnder the payne of Excōmunication that none may attempt vpon their persons if it decreeth not further vnder the same paynes that the subiects cannot be absolued from their obedience in whatsoeuer estate they be that is to say euen when they should make profession of heresy or incorrigible Infidelity and should become persecutours and violators of conscience For though say they further the Church forbiddeth that no attempt be made vpon the life of Princes yet if the Princes happen to fall into incorrigible Heresy or Apostacy and become persecutours of the faith and that the Church thereupon declare their subiectes absolued from the oath of Allegiance and that notwithstanding this declaration they will inforce the subiects to continue their obedience vnto them they become Tyrants And then adde they the Politique Lawes permit euery particuler body to attempt vpon the person of Tyrantes and consequently their life in case of Heresie or of