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A88943 Church-government and church-covenant discussed, in an answer of the elders of the severall churches in New-England to two and thirty questions, sent over to them by divers ministers in England, to declare their judgments therein. Together with an apologie of the said elders in New-England for church-covenant, sent over in answer to Master Bernard in the yeare 1639. As also in an answer to nine positions about church-government. And now published for the satisfaction of all who desire resolution in those points. Mather, Richard, 1596-1669.; Mather, Richard, 1596-1669. Apologie of the churches in New-England for church-covenant.; Peters, Hugh, 1598-1660.; Davenport, John, 1597-1670. 1643 (1643) Wing M1270; Thomason E106_8; Thomason E106_9; ESTC R18913 104,756 140

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17. that offences may be prevented and healed c. Polit. Eccles lib. 3 cap. 16. § 4. Pag. 171 172. Much more he hath to the same purpose in that place alledging sundry Canons and Decrees of Synods of reformed Churches wherein they have determined that none should be received into their Churches but by this way of solemne Covenant And others that have lived amongst them may have been eye-witnesses that this is their usuall practise But what shall be said of the Congregations in England if Churches must be combined by Covenant Doth not this doctrine blot out all those Congregations out of the Catalogue of Churches For what ever Covenant may be found in the reformed Churches in other parts yet it is plaine that the English have none Though we deny not but the Covenant in many of those Congregations is more implicite and not so plaine as were to be desired and what is amisse in them in their materialls or in want of explicite combining of pure matter or many of their wayes wee will not take upon us to defend yet we hope we may say of them with Master Parker Polit. Eccles lib 3. cap. 16. § 1. pag. 167. Non abost ea realis substantialis quanquam magis quàm par●rat implicita coitio in foedus eaque voluntaria professio fidei substantialis quâ Deo gratia essentiam Ecclesiae idque visibilis hacusque sartam tectam in Angliâ conservavit That is there wants not that reall and substantiall comming together or agreeing in Covenant though more implica●e then were meete and that substantiall profession of Faith which thanks be to God hath preserved the essence of visible Churches in England unto this day The reasons why wee are loath to say that the Congregations in England are utterly without a Covenant are these First Because there were many Christian Churches in England in the Apostles time or within a while after as Master Fox sheweth at large Act. Mon. lib. 2. beginning pag 137. where he reporteth out of Gildas that England received the Gospel in the time of Tiberius the Emperour under whom Christ suffered and that Joseph of Arimathea was sent of Philip the Apostie from France to England about the yeare of Christ 63. and remained in England all his time and so he with his fellowes layd the first foundation of Christian Faith among the Britaine people and other Preachers and Teachers comming afterward confirmed the same and increased it Also the said Master Fox reporteth out of Tertullian that the Gospel was dispearsed abroad by the sound of the Apostles into many Nations and amongst the rest into Britaine yea into the wildest places of Britaine which the Romans could never attaine unto and alledgeth also out of Ni●●phorus that Simon Zelotes did spread the Gospel to the West Ocean and brought the same into the Iles of Britaine and sundry other proofes he there hath for the same point Now if the Gospel and Christian Religion were brought into England in the Apostles times and by their means it is like that the English Churches were then constituted by way of Covenant because that was the manner of constituting Churches in the Apostles time as also in the times asore Christ as hath been shewed from the Scripture before in this discourse And if Christian Congregations in England were in those times combined by Covenant then eternitie of Gods Covenant is such that it is not the interposition of many corruptions that may arise in after times that can disanull the same except when men wilfully breake Covenant and reject the offers of the Gospel through obstinacy which we perswade our selves they are not come unto and consequently the Covenant remaines which hath preserved the essence of Churches to this day though the mixture of manifold corruptions have made the Covenant more implicite then were meete Secondly Because there want no good Records as may be seene in Seldens History of Tithes to prove that in former times in England it was free for men to pay their Tithes and Oblations where themselves pleased Now this paying of Tithes was accounted as a dutie of people to their Minister or sheepe to their Pastour and therefore seeing this was by their owne voluntary agreement and consent their joyning to the Church as members thereof to the Ministery thereof as sheepe of such a mans flock was also by their owne voluntary agreement and consent and this doth imply a Covenant ●● was not the precincts of Parishes that did limit men in those dayes but their owne choice Thirdly Those Questions and Answers ministred at Baptisme spoken of before viz. Do●st thou renounce I doe renounce doest thou beleeve I doe beleeve doest thou promise I doe promise as they were used in other places so were they also in England and are unto this day though not without the mixture of sundry corruptions Now this doth imply a Covenant And when the children came to age they were not to be admitted to the Lords Supper before they had made personall Confession of their owne Faith and ratified the Covenant which was made at their Baptisme by their Parents which course indeed afterward did grow into a Sacrament of Confirmation but that was an abuse of a good Order If here it be said that the Members of the Parishionall Assemblies are not brought in by their owne voluntary profession but by the Authority and Proclamation of the Prince and therefore they have no such Covenant The Answer is that the Christian Prince doth but his dutie when he doth not tollerate within his Dominions any open Idolatry or the open worship of false Gods by baptized persons but suppresseth the same and likewise when he gives free libertie to the exercise of all the Ordinances of true Religion according to the minde of Christ with countenance also and encouragement unto all those whose hearts are willingly bent thereunto Ezra 1. 1. 3. 7. 13. And therefore this practise of his cannot overthrow the freenesse of mens ioyning in Church Communion because one dutie cannot oppose nor contradict another And suppose that this course of the Magistrate should seeme to be a forcing of some to come in for members who were unfit in which case it were not justifiable yet this doth not hinder the voluntary subjection of others who with all their hearts desired it When the Israelites departed out of Aegypt there went a mixed multitude with them many going with them that were not Israelites indeed Exod. 12. And in the dayes of Mordecay and Hesther many of the people of the lands became Jewes when the Jewes were in favour and respect Est 8. 17. and so joyned to them not of their owne voluntary minde nor of any sincere heart towards God but meerely for the favour or ●eare of men yet this forced or seined joyning of some could not hinder those that were Israelites indeed from being Israelites nor make the Jewes to be no Jewes no Church-members And the
same may be said in this case Suppose the Magistrates Proclamation should be a cause or an occasion rather of bringing some into the Church who came not of their owne voluntary minde but for feare or for obteining favour yet this cannot hinder but others might voluntarily and freely Covenant to be subject to the Gospel of Christ Such subjection and the promise of it being the thing which themselves did heartily desire though the Magistrate should have said nothing in it If any shall hereupon inferre that if the Parishionall Assemblies be Churches then the members of them may be admitted to Church priviledges in New England before they joyne to our Churches Such one may finde his Answer in the Answer to the tenth of the thirty-two Questions Whereunto we doe referre the Reader for this point Onely adding this that this were contrary to the judgement and practise of the Reformed Churches who doe not admit a man for member without personall profession of his Faith and joyning in Covenant though he had formerly been a member of a Church in another place as was shewed before out of Master Parker Lastly If any say that if these reasons prove the English Congregations to have such a Covenant as proves them to be Churches then why may not Rome and the Assemblies of Papists goe for true Churches also For some man may thinke that the same things may be said for them that here in Answer to this eleventh Objection are said for the Parishes in England Such one must remember two things first that we doe not say simply a Covenant makes a company a true Church but as was said before a Covenant to walke in such wayes of worship to God and edification of one another as the Gospel of Christ requireth For who doubts but there may be an agreement among theeves Pro. 1. A confederation among Gods enemies Psal 83. A conspiracy among the Arabians the Ammonites and Ashdodites to hinder the building of Hierusalem Neh. 4. 7 8. And yet none of these are made true Churches by such kind of confederacies or agreements And so wee may say of the Assemblies of Papists especially since the Counsell of Trent If there be any agreement or confederacy among them it is not to walke in the wayes of the Gospell but in wayes contrary to the fundamentall truths of the Gospel as Idolatry in worship Heresie in doctrine and other Antichristian pollutions and corruptions and therefore if they combined in these things such combinations will never prove them true Churches The Church is the Pillar and ground of truth 1 Tim. 3. 15. But the Religion of Papists is so farre from truth that whosoever liveth and beleeveth according to it without repentance cannot be saved Witnesse their doctrine in the point of vilifying the Scriptures and in point of free-will and of Justification by works of the Popes Supremacy of the Sacrifice of the Masse of worshipping of Images c. In regard of which and such like the Holy Ghost saith that their Religion is a Sea become as the bloud of a dead man and every soule in that Sea dyeth Rev. 16. 3. And therefore agreement in such a Religion will never prove them to be true Churches nor any Assemblies of Arrians Antitrinitaries Anabaptists or Famelists supposing them also to be combined by Covenant among themselves But now for the Assemblies in England the case is farre otherwise for the Doctrine of the Articles of Religion which they professe and which they promise to hold and observe though some things are amisse in some of those Articles and though many persons live contrary in their lives yet the doctrine is such that whosoever beleeveth and liveth according to it shall undoubtedly be saved and many thousands have been saved therein and therefore Assemblies united by Covenant to observe this doctrine may be true Churches when the Assemblies of Papists and others may be false although they also were combined by Covenant the reason of the difference rising from the difference that is in the doctrine and Religion which they severally professe and by Covenant binde themselves to observe the one being fundamentally corrupt and consequently pernicious The other in the fundamentall points Orthodoxall and sound Secondly It must be remembred also which was intimated before that if fundamentall corruptions be professed in with impenitency and obstinacy then God may disanull the Covenant on his part and give a Bill of divorce to such a people Jere. 3. 8. Now experience and the Scripture also doth witnesse of the Jesuited and Trent-Papists that they repented not of the workes of their hands of worshipping Devills and Idolls of Gold c. neither repented they of their murthers nor of their sorceries nor of their fornications nor of their thefts Rev. 9. 20 21. But now for the Parish Assemblies in England we hope that we may safely say they doe not sinne of obstinacy but of ignorance having not been convinced and many of them never having had means to be convinced of the corruptions that are amongst them in respect of their constitution and worship and Ministery and so the Covenant remaining among them may prove them to be Churches when it cannot stand the Papists in like stead they being impenitent and obstinate Which we doe not speake to justifie the Parishes altogether as if there were not dangerous corruptions found in them nay rather the Lord be mercifull to the sinnes of his people wee may lament it with teares that in respect of their members and Ministery in respect of their worship and walkings in many of those Assemblies there are found such apparent corruptions as are justly grievous to a godly soule that is enlightened to discerne them and greatly displeasing to the Lord and indeed had need to be repented of betime least otherwise the Lord remove the Candlesticke and unchurch them Rev. 2. 5. In a word the corruptions remaining are just causes of repentance and humiliation but yet in as much as the Articles of Religion which they professe containe such wholesome doctrine that whosoever beleeveth and walketh according thereunto in sinceritie shall undoubtedly be saved and in as much as the corruptions are not persisted in with obstinacy therefore wee deny not but they have the truth of Churches remaining But this opinion of Church-Covenant is holden by none but the Brownists or those of the Separation and therefore it is not to be received This ground cannot be made good that none but they of the Separation are for Church-Covenant for all the Reformed Churches generally as was shewed before in Answer to Objection the tenth are for it in their judgement practise and shall all they be condemned for Brownists or maintaining unlawfull Separation from the Church Also Master Parker and Doctor Ames men of our owne Nation famous for holinesse and learning and moderation both of them plead for Church-Covenant and yet neither of them were Brownists but bare witnesse against that riged