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A04780 A suruey of the new religion detecting manie grosse absurdities which it implieth. Set forth by Matthevv Kellison doctor and Professour of Diuinitie. Diuided into eight bookes. Kellison, Matthew. 1603 (1603) STC 14912; ESTC S107995 369,507 806

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and vvishing for saint Austines her sonnes conuersion vvho then vvas a Manichee Filius tantarum lachrimarum perire non potest I may say of your Highnes to vvit that the sonne of suche a Mother and Prince of such a Princess and Inheritour of suche vertues such examples such teares such vvis hes can neuer perish that is can not but bee a Catholique This her zeale tovvardes religion these her desires vvishes these her prayers and teares and aboue all her Glorious Martyrdome vvill euer bee before your Graces eyes to moue your harte if not to admitte vvholy the Catholike religion at least to permitte it at least not to persequute it vvhich she loued her selfe so vvell and vvished to your Highnes so hartilie And truly moste Gracious Liege such is our repose in your goodnes that if ther vvere noe other motiues then your Glorious mothers example your Catholike subiectes miserie and your ovvne innate clemencie vve vvould not at all despaire of a graunt of our petition but seing that the thing vve request concerneth not only our good but your graces honour also and the true felicitie of your Kingdome vvee hope confidently not to suffer a repulse in that in vvhich your Highnes also hath a parte and for vvhich not only vvee are humble suppliauntes but your selfe also to your selfe and for your selfe are an Intercessour And first he graunt of our petition shal be most honourable for your moste Excellēt Maiestie King Lucius vvas the first king Christian of our Countrie and the first king that laboured in the cōuersion of it vvith Pope Eleutherius by vvhose Counsail and preachers vvhich he sent he extirpated idolatrie and planted Christian Religion and for this glorious facte his name and fame is and euer shal be moste renovvmed both in heauen and earth King Ethelbert vvas the secōd king vvho by the meanes of Pope Gregorie by Popes alvvayes countries haue been conuerted and tvvelue Monkes of sainct Benedictes Order the second tyme restored this Countrie again vnto the same Christiane and Catholike Religion the vvhich by the inuasiō of the Saxons vvas againe become Idolatricall and Pagane and he is noe lesse glorious before God and men for so honourable an enterprise But if your Highnes shal be the third King vvho shalle againe reduce this coūtrie to the same ancient Religion you shal be as much more glorious and your name as much more renovvmed Th 2.2.4.10.4.6 as heresie is vvorse then Paganisme and more hardly extinguished Vvilliam the Conquerour from vvhome your Maiestie is vvorthilie descended is reckened amongest the Vvorthies of the vvorlde and vvritten in the liste and catalogue of the moste Vvarlike Kinges for that famouse conquest vvhich he made of your litle vvorlde But if your Highnes shall get the conqueste of heresie your honour shal be as farre more greater then his as the conquest of mens soules and myndes is more glorious then subdevving of bodyes In such a Cōquest the vvarre is Christes the victorie is his and yours the crovvne yours only not in earth only but in heauen also You haue the occasion offered ô mightie Prince by vvhich you may make your name and fame immortall let not such an opportunitie passe if you can atchieue so glorious a Conquest as you can if you vvill bicause the body of your Realme vvill follovv the vvill of their head you shall be more Glorious then all the Kinges of England before you If it please your Maiestie to set before your eyes those Glorious Champiōs of the Churche Constantine Theodosius Pepine Charles all surnamed Great more glorious for their victories ouer heresie and idolatrie then for conquestes of Countries more renovvmed for propagating the ancient Catholique Religion for it vvas not Lutheranisme nor Caluinisme vvhich they promoted then for enlarging their dominions you vvill easilie perce●e that it is muche greater honour for your Highnes to consorte vvith them rather then vvith Constantius and Valēs those Ariane Emperours enemies to that Church vvhich they defended enriched and Leo Isauricus Constantinus Copronymus those infamous Image breakers And if you please to call to mynde the Catalogue of the noble Kinges of Englād Lucius Ethelbert Egbert osvvald osvvine Alfred and many others before the Conquest vvith Vvilliam the Conquerour and so many Henries Edvvardes and Richardes after the Conquest all your Noble predecessours so mightie in force so ritch in treasure so noble of byrth so fortunate in vvarres so couragious in fyght so glorious in victories so vvise in Gouernment so iuste in punishing so mercitall in pardoning so vpright in life so zealous in Religion vvho builte so many goodly Monasteries erected so stately Churches founded so learned Colleges enacted so holsome lavves and vvise statutes and got so many and so straunge victories in Fraunce and other Countries euen vnto Palestine your Princelie vvisdome vvill easilie see that greater vvilbee your honour to ioyney our selfe to these vvorthies then to stande so nakedly accompanyed vvith three only of your Predecessours vvho haue protected the nevv Religion and ruined vvhat they haue builded vvherof the first vvas not vvholly for the nevv Religion bicause by Parlament he enacted six Catholike Articles and at his death founded a Masse for his soule the second vvas so younge that he vvas rather ouerruled thē ruled the laste vvas but a vvoeman and though they vvanted not Guiftes of nature vvhich might beseem princely authoritie yet for persequuting the Catholike faythe and follovving other pathes then their predecessours had troden theyr names are not eternized vvith that immortall fame vvhich their predecessours haue purchased by their Religious Actes Secōdly Redoubted Prince the Catholike Religion vvilbe greater securitie for you temporall State For● your Highnes dare relye vppon them vvho by Religion Cal. l. 3. Inst c. 19 §. 14. l 4. ● to § 5.23 27. may disobey you● Lavves and Ordinaunces as I haue in my sixte booke demonstrated much mor● may you put your truste and confidence in your Catholike subiectes vvhom conscience and religion byndeth to obedience For they are taught by Religion that Authoritie is of God 1. Pet. 2. Rons 13. and that in conscience they are subiect vnto it and boūd to obey kinges though othervvise difficile and harde to please not only for feare but for conscience also And this obedience they giue not only to Christian but also to Pagane Kinges such as all vvere vvhen sainct Peter and sainct Paule commaunded vs to obey them E● Eus Vvee are taught sayed sainct Policarpe to the Proconsul to giue to higher povvers that honour vvhich is devve to them and not hurtfull to vs. Apol. c. 3. 〈◊〉 S. apulā Vvee sayed Tertulian to the Ethnikes pray for the Emperour and reuerence him nexte to God and more then vve doe your Goddes To be breefe as I should bee vvith a King if the matter did not enforce me to be longer then I should be giue vs sayeth sainct Austine such Iudges such magistrates
yet I am sure they vvould not entermeddle in matters of religion to giue sentence vvhat is the meaning of scripture vvhich bookes are canonicall and vvhat opinions are hereticall and contrary vnto god his vvord no more then they vvould entermedle in ministring of Sacramēts or preachīg of Gods vvord For they knevve full vvell vvhat Iosaphat that good king sayed ● par 19. to vvit that Amarias the high preest vvas to rule in matters of religion and Captain Zabadias to menage matters belonging to the Kings office And ozias may be a sufficient example vnto all princes ● par 26. vvho vvas stricken vvith a leprie for vsurping the preests office in incensing Vve read in deed that Christ commaunded Saint Peter to feed his sheepe and to gouerne his Church Io. 21. Act. 2● Ephes 4. preests also and pastours haue the same charge committed vnto them yea the prophet Isaie sayeth that Princes are Nurces furtherers and fauourers and defenders of the Church Is 49.38.60 but he neuer calles them rulers of the Church nor Iudges in religion Vvherfore saint Ambrose Bishop of Milā vvriting to his sister sayeth that he told Valentinian the Emperour vvhat belonged to his office in these vvordles Ep. 13. Trouble not they self O Emperour as to thinke that thou hast any Imperiall right to meddle in diuine matters Extolle not they felf but if thou vvilt raygne longe be thou subiect to god It is vvriten giue to god vvhich is belonging to god and to Caesar vvhich belongeth to Caesar Vnto the Emperour pallaces appertain vnto the preest Churches The charge of the publique vvalles is commited to thee but not of sacred and holy things A sentence vvorthy to be set in a tablet of gold and to hange about a Princes neck And truly if Princes vvere Iudges of religion vve must chaunge religion at their pleasures and so vve should haue allmost as many religions as Princes Much lesse can the parlament be Iudge in religion for that cōsisteth of temporall men and although in Englād the lordes spirituall are ioyned vvith the temporall yet are they all ruled by the prince And vvher I pray you doth scripture vvarraunt vs that the parlament is our Iudge in matters of religion yea vve see that parlamentes varye in religion and so they can giue noe certain sentence for religion In Fraunce the Parlament is Catholike and is content to be subiect to the Pope and in no vvise vvill meddle vvith matters of religion In King Henries tyme the eight of that name the parlament enacted six Catholike articles In King Edvvards tyme the parlament allovved of another religion in Queen Maries tyme of another and in Queen Elizabethes tyme of another If then the same man had liued in all these princes tyme as many haue doone then if the Parlament be Iudge he must in cōscience thoughe religion be but one haue chaunged fovvre tymes his religiō else had he been fovvre tymes an heretike and as often traytour Yea I thinke if the parlament vvere demaunded to define vvhich bookes of scripture are canonicall and vvhich is the true meaning they vvould ansvvere that such matters belonge not vnto them But they vvill ansvver that the parlament is Iudge vvhen it is conformable to scripture as it is at this present but vvas not in Queen Maries tyme. Thus they may ansvver but vvith hovve litle reason it vvill easily appeare For ether the parlament precisely or the parlamēt aggreeing vvith scripture is this Iudge If they graūt me the first then must vve in conscience chaunge religion as often as the parlamēt chaungeth decrees If they graunt only the second then is the parlament noe infallible Iudge yea no Iudge at all for yet vve must haue a Iudge to Iudge the parlament and to determine vvhen the parlament follovveth the vvord of God else shall vve neuer be satisfyed And vvho I pray you is this Iudge Novve I see not vvhom they can name vnless it be my lord of Canterbury or the ministerie of England or of all countries vvhere their religion florisheth But then I demaund of them first vvhere they read in Scripture that their Clergie is an infallible Iudge in matters of religion They vvill say that the scripture commaundes vs to giue credit to our pastours True but if I deny that they are true pastours they can not proue them selues to be soe bicause they can not proue their mission as in the first chapter is proued most euidently Secondly the Clergie of England since King Henry the eight hathe chaunged religion diuers tymes and this nevve Clergie vvas neuer yet constant in fayth for one vvholle year together yea they aggree not amongest them selues and so can be no assured and infallible Iudge Thirdly ether the Clergie of England is Iudge in matters of religion bicause it is the Clergie of Englād or bicause it is the Clergie of a vvholle countrie or bicause it conspireth vvith the vniuersall Clergie of their religion If they graunt me the first then doth it folvvith vve must haue a Iudge to Iudge the parlament and to determine vvhen the parlament follovveth the vvord of God else shall vve neuer be satisfyed And vvho I pray you is this Iudge Novve I see not vvhom they can name vnless it be my lord of Canterbury or the ministerie of England or of all countries vvhere their religion florisheth But then I demaund of them first vvhere they read in Scripture that their Clergie is an infallible Iudge in matters of religion They vvill say that the scripture commaundes vs to giue credit to our pastours True but if I deny that they are true pastours they can not proue them selues to be soe bicause they can not proue their mission as in the first chapter is proued most euidently Secondly the Clergie of England since King Henry the eight hathe chaunged religion diuers tymes and this nevve Clergie vvas neuer yet constant in fayth for one vvholle year together yea they aggree not amongest them selues and so can be no assured and infallible Iudge Thirdly ether the Clergie of England is Iudge in matters of religion bicause it is the Clergie of Englād or bicause it is the Clergie of a vvholle countrie or bicause it conspireth vvith the vniuersall Clergie of their religion If they graunt me the first then doth it follovv that only the Clergie of England is this Iudge and so all other countries must be subiecte to the Inglish Clergie to vv ch they vvill neuer aggree If they graunte the secōd then euery Clergie of a vvholle countrie is iudge and so vve shall haue as many religions al most as countries and although the nevv Clergies of Ingland Germany Scotland Holland Geneue are cōtrarie the one to the other yet the people of euery country must acknovvlege them as Iudges in religion and so must imbrace cōtrarie opinions If they graunt the third I must desire them to aggree all amongest themselues before vve stande to their iudgement
Epist ● ad M●r ellinū such souldiours such subiectes as our Religion requireth and Princes shall raigne securely and their kingdomes shall flouri●h more happilie then Platoes common vvelth And bicause Religiō good or badde beareth a great svvay in the rule of mans life the Professours of the nevve Religion must needes be more prone to disobedience and rebellion then vvee bicause Religion vvhich serueth for a bridle to vs is a Spurre to them Vvherfore by Catholikes all your Predecessours haue been serued vvith great fidelitie both in vvarre and peace and your glorious Mother if she vvere liuing in Earth as she is better liuīg in Heauen vvould not lette to vvitness vvhat affectiō she hath found amongest the English Catholiques and vvould vvarraunt your Grace that they vvill neuer bee false to the Sonne vvho haue been so true to the Mother But if your Highnes doubte of our fidelitie vve vvill bynde our selues by corporall oathe to obey your lavves in all temporal causes and to defend your Roial Person your Deare Spouse our Gracious Queene and your tovvardlie Children our Noble Lordes vvith the laste droppe of our bloud and this our oathe vve shall be contented to diuulge to all the Princes of Europe yea all the Christian vvorlde And as your Grace may accounte of vs as of your surest so not of your fevvest nor vveakest subiectes for notvvithstanding this longe persequution vvee are so many Apalog c. 37. that as Tertulian sayed to the Paganes of the Christianes of his tyme vve fill your Courtes your Vniuersities your Cities your Tovvnes your Villages yea your prisons not for theftes or murders but for Religion only vvee haue lefte the Churches to the Ministers bicause in them is practised and preached a Religion vvhich our consciences can not brooke Yea a greater parte are vvee then any particuler secte in your Maiesties Realme and vvee are linked in Religion to all Catholique Princes and countries about you vvho vvill bee more louing neighbours if they see that vvee their bretherne synde this desired fauour at your Graces handes and the noblest and mightiest of them vvilbe more desirous to ioyne in mariadge vvith your Royall posteritie vvherby hovve your Kingdome shal be strengthned and your Dominions enlarged your Princely vvisdome easilie perceueth and you haue an example in the noble Hovvse of Austria Your Noble Brother of Fraunce that novv raigneth may be a president in this matter vvho though he vvas once an enemie to the Catholique Religion yet findeth more faythfull correspondence in his Catholique subiectes then in all the rest and by permitting bothe is serued of bothe and serueth him selfe of bothe Thirdly moste Gracious Soueraigne to admit the Catholique Religion or at least to permit it is your greatest safetie for your conscience For as you are a Prince so are you a Christian Prince and therefore a champion cap. 4.9 and as the Prophet Esaie sayeth a Foster-father of the Church and as the Kinges of Fraunce euen from Clodoueus the first Christian Kinge of that Realme haue beene called Christianissimi for their good offices tovvardes the Catholique Church Genebrar l s. Chron. Baron to 9. Annal. and the kinges of Spaine From Ferdinande yea from Alphonsus yea as some thinke from Recaredus for extirpating Arianisme and propagating the Christian faythe Geneb l. 4. Chron. Sleid l 3. Georg. Lilius in Chr. Angl. are surnamed Catholike so the Kinges of England frō King Henrie the Eight your Graces great vncle for his Catholike lerned booke writtē agaīst Luther other his most honourable seruices vvhich he perfourmed for the Catholike Church are called Defendours of the Faithe that is the Catholike faith Wherfore your Maiestie first bicause you are a Christian King Secondly bicause you● are a Defendour of the faithe are to see that the right vvorship of God and the true Christiane religion be practised in your Realme This the honour of God vnder vvhom you raigne this the good of his Church vvhose Champion you are this the saluation of your people vvhose King you are this the spiritual health of the body of your Realme vvhose head you are requireth For if in any coūtrie it be true that the inconstaunte people changeth vvithe the King in England it is moste true as vve haue seene by diuerse changes of religion in this Vnhappie age and so in your Maiestie it lyeth to saue or not to saue your people vvhich so admireth your authoritie and Princely vertues that your vvill is their lavve and your lavv their rule of religion And vvhere can your Grace finde a securer hauen for the Saluation of your selfe and your subiectes then the Catholike Church In vvhich soe many Martyrs haue dyed so many Doctours haue taught and preached so many virgins haue liued in flesh like Angells and so many sainctes haue vvrought so straunge and vvonderfull miracles by vvhich so many heresies haue been condemned so many Councels called so many Ecclesiasticall lavves enacted and such goodly order and discipline established For vv ch so many monasteries Churches Colledges Vniuersities and hospitalles haue beene builded foūded In vv ch so many Emperours Kinges and Princes haue liued raigned dyed and as it is to bee hoped also haue beene saued and against vvhich so many cruel persequutours in vaine haue raysed forces and vsed tormētes and so many heretikes haue raged and railed vvhich is descended frō the Apostles can proue a continuall succession of her pastours and religion from them vnto this daye Vvheras the nevv Church began but yesterdaye and her Preachers vvith her vvho also can not proue their mission nor distinguish them selues from false Prophets vvhose doctrine hath all the markes of heresie and is rather Antichristian then Christiā plucking at Christes Diuinitie spoiling him of many Honourable Titles to vvit Redeemer Spiritual Phifitian Lavv-giuer Aeternall Preest Iudge of the quicke and dead equalizing euery Christian vvith him making him an ignoraunt desperate and damned man vvhich hath nether Preest nor sacrifice nor in effect any sacramēt no prayer not so much as our Lords prayer no nor a sermon according to their doctrine nor any of the essential partes of Religion vvhich is blasphemous in many pointes against God iniurious to State and Authoritie fauourable to vice and bending to Atheisme all vvhich pointe● I haue proued in this booke But if you● Maiesties pleasure or leisure be not such as by perusing this booke to informe your selfe vvhich is moste likely to be the true Christian religion if it shall please your Highnes to commaund a conference or disputation vvhich hathe euer bee● the vsual meanes to determine cōtroue●sies as appeareth by the disputation o● Helias vvith Baals Prophetes ● Reg 18.10 8. Act. 7.9 17. 18 19. 20. Aug ep 47. Ruf. l. hist of Christ vvith the Ievves of Sainct Paule vvith levves and Gentils and of the ancie● doctours in Councels and out of Councels vvith Ethinkes and heretiques you● Maiestie shall finde diuers of your
Greatest vvho tooke in as good parte the vvidovves mite as the ritchest Offringe But yet I vvould not haue your Maiestie to esteeme of this my booke only as of a bare bundel of papers bicause I present you vvithall that hūble harte and sincere affection vvhich a subiecte can beare or ovve vnto his Soueraigne and vvith my affection I offer my selfe as your Maiesties most lovvly faithfull seruaunte vvhich is a guifte so great be the giuer neuer so vile that the great King of heauen requireth yea desireth no more at our handes but esteemeth that vve giue all vvhen vvee giue our selues and that vvee giue noe litle vvhen vvee giue our All bee it neuer so litle Nether is my presēt it selfe to bee misprised nether can it of such a Prince bicause the booke is not my present it is but the boxe the present is that vvhich it conteineth And if your Maiestie demaund of me vvhat that is I ansvvere not gold nor Iuorie of India not ritch and orient pearle for vvith such treasures your England like an India aboundeth but it is that vvhich is more vvorth and vvhich your India only vvanteth and vvhat is that It is religion the vvorship of God the Saluation of your soule the safetie of your Subiectes the health of the body of the Realme of vvhich you are the Heade the strength of your Kingdome the peace of your people and the ritchest pearle of your crovvne This is the subiect of my discourse these are the contentes of my booke and this is my guifte and present vvhich amongest so many guiftes vvhich by so many and so mightie Princes are presented vnto your Highnes I offer vvith all humilitie hopīg yea persuading my selfe that such a guifte as Religion can not but be gratefull vnto that Prince vvho is the Defendour of the faith Protectour of Religion And bicause this vnhappie age hath been more frutefull then profitable in deuising of religions in so much that as all is not golde that glisters so novv all is not religiō vv ch is called soe least I may be thought to offer Counterfet for currante and heresie for true religion it is the Catholike Religion most noble Prince vvhich I present and vvhich my booke conteyneth and by many argumentes as occasion serueth not only proueth but also conuinceth to be the only sincere and true Christian religion and vnmasking the nevv religion by a seuere yet syncere Examination declareth it to be nothing else but errour and heresie though vnder the painted face of a Reformed Religion it hath deceiued some parte of the vvorld and especially your litle vvorld England vvhich the Poete chose rather to calle a vvorlde by it selfe separated from the greater vvorld then a parte or parcel of it bicause like a 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 and litle vvorld it conteineth compendiously and in a lesser roome vvhich also is a grace all commodities and perfections vvhich in the greater are dispersed But bicause I ame more in examining and refuting the nevv religion then in confirming the olde bicause the good corne grovveth easilie vvhen the vveedes are extirpated I entitle it a suruey of the nevv religion And if your Maiestie demaund of me vvhy I dedicate such a booke vnto you I can not vvante an ansvveare bicause I can not vvante a reason Flauius Vegetius vvill tell your Highnes that it hathe beene euer the custome to dedicate bookes to Kinges and Emperours as he him selfe did to Valentinian th' Elder bicause sayeth he nether is any thing vvel begōne vnless after God the King fauour it nether doe any thinges beseem Kinges better then bookes vvho as they gouern all so if it vvere possible should knovve all For as in the head vvhich guideth the vvholle bodie are all the sences so a Prince the head of the people should be indevved vvith all sciences and as the Sonne bicause it illuminateth the planets vvhich vnder it rule and guide the inferiour vvorld is replenished vvith more light then they so the King vvho is the Sonne of his ovvn vvorld and Kingdome from vvhom not only the people but inferiour Princes also are to receue their light and direction should be illuminated vvith a greater light and knovvledge then any of his subiectes and therfore Cirus vvas vvonte to say that he is not vvorthy an Empire vvho is not better and vviser then the rest vvhich also in effecte King Salomon surnamed vvise affirmed vvhē he gaue that holsome counsayle to his fellovv-Kinges Sap. 6. Si delectamini sedibus sceptris ô Reges populi diligite sapientiam vt in aeternum regnetis If you be delighted in thrones and scepters ô Kinges loue you vvisdome that you may raigne for euer and to signifie this by an Embleme God him selfe gaue his people for their first King no other then Saule vvho vvas higher then the rest of the people by the head and shoulders And seing that your Maiestie is not only a Kinge but a learned King also as by many monumentes of your rare vvitte and learning vvhich the learnedst admire doth plainly appeare to vvhom ought I of dutie to consecrate this my vvorke but to such a King vvho for his authoritie can protecte it and for his vvisdome can Iudge of it Yea the verie subiect of my booke vvhich is religion seemed to require of right no other Patrone then your most Excellent Maiestie vvho by office and Title are the protectour of Religion the champion of the Church and Defendour of the Fayth This common congratulation also not only of your ovvne litle vvorld but also of all the Christiane vvorlde this vniuersall ioy these triūphes these bonefyers vvhich the french-man calleth feux de ioye haue moued and stirred mee vp to shevv some signe also of my affection and ioye vvhervvith my harte is so full that my toungue can not be silent All reioise most Gracious Prince at your Coronation as though it concerned all and the hope vvhich is generally conceiued of your Graces Bountie hath not only passed your seas but the Alpes also The vvorlde admires the svveet prouidence of the Almightie tovvardes your Maiestie vvhoe euen from your infancie hath protected you from many imminent dangers as thoughe he had reserued you as no doubte hee did for the crovvne of England The vvorld expected ether ciuil vvarres or foraine inuasions after the deathe of her Maiestie of late memorie bicause the Heire apparaunt vvas not named and though all men had their eyes and expectations and desires also fixed on your Highnes person yet they feared that vvhich they desired and hoped not vvithout feare and yet cōscience directing your Nobles and God gouerning their cōscience vvithout any bloud shed vvithout contradiction yea vvith great applause of all your Highnes is placed peaceably in your Regall throne and vv ch is rare England vvas so inamoured vvith your Princely vertues and so moued by your vndoubted Title that shee sent for you as for her louing spouse and hath betrothed
dull pate and such like names for pressing him vvith the authoritie of fathers thus he decideth the matter Hencricus dicta patrum inducit pro sacrificio missario c. Henrie for his massing sacrifice bringes in the sayinges of fathers Here say I that by this meanes my sentence is confirmed for this is it vvhich I sayed that the Thomisticall asses haue nothing vvhich they can alleage but a multitude of men and the ancient vse But I against the sayings of fathers men angells and deuills put dovvne the ghospell vvhich is the vvorde of the aeternall maiestie here I insult ouer the sayings of men thoughe neuer so holy so that I care not though a thousand Austines and Ciprianes should stand against me Thus one Martin Luther braueth them all thus this good child reuerenceth and respecteth his ancient fathers for as I sayed in the last chapter although he seemeth only to preferre the scripture yet seing that they admitted and alleaged scripture also the question is vvhoe hath better skill in expounding scripture and if vve beleeue this man all the fathers might haue gone to schoole to him in expos a. 6● fol. 167. Zuinglius vvill not be behind Luther in this matter They affirme sayeth he and vve deny that the masse is a sacrifice Vvho shal be iudge of this controuersie The sole say I and the only vvord of God But by and by thou beginnest to crye The fathers the fathers haue thus deliuered vnto vs. But I bring to thee not fathers nor mothers but ● require the vvord of God Caluine desireth to be counted modest but herin also he could not conteine him self l. ● Inst ca. 8. ● 10. Vvhen the aduersaries obiect to me sayeth he that this vvas the cusstome I ansvverre that the old fathers in this matter vvanted both lavv and exemple vvere caryed avvay into an errour vvhilest they attributed to much to the name of poenaunce and the common peoples opinions And again I ame litle moued vvith those things vvhich occurre cuery vvhere in the vvritings of fathers concerning satisfaction I see truly many of them yea I vvill speake simply as it is all allmost of them vvhose bookes are extant vvere in this matter dece●ued and spoake hardly And in another booke of his he calles the fathers of the councel of Trent hogges asses in Antid can ● Peter martyr calleth papistes Patrologos not Theologos 〈◊〉 votis for alleaging fathers Doctour Humphrey in the life of levvell perceiuing that levvell had offered to much vvhen in the heat of his sermon he vvas content to be tryed by fathers sayeth that he might haue vsed a better defence for him sel●e then the authoritie of fathers Vvhoe sayeth hee if they teache contrarie it litle skilleth for vvhat haue vve to do vvith fathers vvith flesh bloud or vvhat perteineth it to vs vvhat the false Synods of bishops do decree Vide ●undem in praefat in Orig. Beza calleth Athanasius Satanasius and the fathers of the Nicen Councell blind sophistes ministers of the beast and staues of Antichrist ●●ont Papatū And althoughe Luther affirme●h that sainct Gregorie the great vvas the last good Pope yet Bibliander calleth him in derisiō the Patriarch of ceremonies Melancthon condemneth him for allovving of the sacrifice of the masse for the dead praef ep Zui●● gl Mel. Paulus Vergerius vvrote a booke of the toyes and fables of Gregorie Horne in his booke against Abbot Fecnam calleth this sainte to vvhome vve English men ovve noe lesse then our conuersion from paganisme to christiantie a blind bussard Cent 1. pag. 66 72 Cent. ● par 678. Bile the cronicler sayet● that this saint sent Austin the monke to plante in England his Romish religion but yet sayeth he Lat●mer is much more vvorthy to be counted Englands apostle bicause Austine brought nothing but mans traditions masse crosses letanies vvheras Latimer vvith the hooke of truth cut of these superstitions Vvhitaker in his booke called reprehension Pag. 8● sayeth that the fathers for the most part vvere of opinion that Antichrist is but one particular man but in that as in many other things the● erred The like respecte they bear to generall Councells in vvhich the vvisest and grauest fathers of the Church vver allvvayes assembled Luther in his booke of Councels calleth them Sicop●ants and flaterers of the Pope and sayeth that the canōs of the Councell of Nice vvhich Constantine reuerēced and honoured vvith his presence are hay stravve stickes and stubble Ibidem Yea in this councel he findeth a playn cōtradiction bicause the councell forbiddes all Eunuches to be promoted to preesthood and yet commaundeth preestes to liue chastly As though only they vvho are gelded could liue chast and as though ther vvere no mean betvvixt vviuing and gelding Yea sayeth Luther l. ●●nt Regem Angliae if all the decrees of councells vvere povvred into theee vvith a pipe yet vvould they not make thee a christian l. 4. Inst c. 9. sect 8. Caluin vvill examine all councells by the vvord before he vvill giue any credit vnto them and seing that the fathers in councells examined their decrees by scripture also Caluin vvill make an examination vppon their examinatiō and so vvill bee Iudge of them all But least I vveary the reader vvith to longe a catalogue of reuiling speeches of these contumelious chammes and parricides I report me vnto the indifferent reader vvhether they deserue not the punishment of parricides vvho so scoffe taunte contemne and reuile their forfathers But my meaning vvas not to condemne them vppon vvhom God his sentence must passe my drifte is herby to shevv hovv much in reuiling fathers they crack the credit of their religion and hovv vvithall in reiecting this authoritie they open the gapp to all heretikes and heresies And as concerning the first point it is vvell knovvn that antiquitie vvas allvvayes reuerenced old age vvas euer respected olde coynes priced ancient statues admired old vvritings esteemed and in all artes the moste anciēt professours of the same bear the bell a vvay In painting Appelles hath the credit aboue all painters in statuary vvorks Lycippꝰ in comedies Plautus and Terence in Tragedies Seneca in histories Liuie Salust Iustine in Poetrie Homer Virgil Ouid in Rhetorick Demosthenes and Cicero in Philosophie Plato and Aristotle in Diuinitie Peter Lombard sainct Thomas of Aquin Scotus and such other subtile schoolmen And shall not the ancient fathers and doctours of the Church vvho by their arte professed exposition of scripture be reuerenced and credited in their arte before oure vnlearned and vpstart ministers shall antiquitie giue credit to Poets and painters and not to Doctours interpretours of scripture Vvhat is this but to preferr ꝓphane literature before religiō Philosophie before fayth diuinitie paganisme before Christianitie yea Poetes painters before Doctours fathers of the Church If any one novv should say that Plato and Aristotle vvere but
called Ievv and gentile the Grecian and the barbarous and all natiōs vnder the sonne vnto his faith Churche and religion Vvherfore this Church almost from the beginning euen vvhen it vvas confined vvith in Hierusalem Act. 2. cōteined Parthians Medes Persians Mesopotamians and as the scripture sayeth allmost all nations vnder the sonne And vvhen the holy Spirit descended vppon the Apostles and Disciples in firie tongues Ibidem and gaue them the guifte also to speake all languages that vvas to signifie that the Church of Christ vvas not to speake Englishe only or Scotishe and Flemishe only but all languages Vvherfore God promised our Sauiour Christ that he vvould giue him not England only not Scotland Flanders and Germany only Psal 2. but all nations for his inheritaunce Psal 71. Psal 81. And he auoucheth that his Church shall rule from Sea to Sea and that all nations hall haue access vnto it Mat. 28. And so accordingly Christ gaue authoritie to his Apostles to preach vnto all nations Vvherby I gather that the Church of Christ is not to bee a particuler sect confined vvith in any straites and corners of the vvorld but rather an ample Kingdome reaching ouer all the vvorld Symb. Apost Niceph. And this vvee professe in our Creed vvhen vve say that vve beleeue the holy Catholike Church For Catholike is as much to say as 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 vniuersall l cont ep fundamenti c. ● Vvhich name sayeth S. Austin holdeth me in the Churche And vvhy bicause he knevv it to bee a signe of the true Christian Churche vvhich neuer yet aggreed to any hereticall sect Ibidem li de verae rel c ● l de vtil credendi c. 7. ether of the Manichies of vvhich once he vvas one or of the Donatistes or Pelagians or any other And this sayeth saint Austine is so manifest a marke of the true Churche that heretikes them selues ambitiously affecte the same but yet if you aske for the Catholike Churche they point to ours knovving in their conscience that ours only is in deed Catholike ●● ● 2. l. 2. And so saint Austin and Optatus refuted the Churche of the Donatists by this argument especially bicause it vvas confined vvith in the limites of Africa And Pacianus saieth that so soone as certain singuler Sect-masters deuised nevve religions Ep. ● ad So. phr and vvere called by particuler names the true Christians to distinguishe them selues from particuler sectes tooke the name Catholique euen from the beginninge as appeareth by the Creed vv ch the Apostles made vvhich name soundeth nether of Marcion nor Cerdon nor Apelles nor Valētinus nor Ne●torius nor Arrius l. cont Iudeos c. 1● nor Luther nor Caluin And Tertulian so longe as he remained Catholike him self confessed that the true Churche vvas that vvhich vvas diffused throughe out all the vvorld Yea he sayeth that in his tyme the true Christians not vvithstanding the violence of persecution filled the Paganes Cities Apol. c. 37. Ilands Castles Courts Senats and only lefte their temples to them selues but noe soner vvas this man become an heretike but he affirmed most absurdly that the Churche might consiste of three persons though they vvere of the laitie li de exhor cast c. 7 l. de pudic c. 21. Vvhich he did partely bicause he vvould make vp a Churche of Montanus Prisca and Maximilla to vvhom he had vnited him selfe partlie to deliuer in him selfe frō the name of an heretike to vvhich hee savve him selfe subiect bicause he vvas novve of a particuler sect So that it is sufficiently proued that the Churche of Christe is Catholike that is a Societie professing one fayth in all countries yea and ages also cap. ● according to that of Vincentius Lirinensis In Ecclesia Catholica tenendū quod vbique quod semper quod ab omnibus creditum In the Catholike Churche that is to be holden vvhich euery vvhere alvvayes and of all hath been beleeued For that sayeth hee the name Catholique importeth Novve let vs see vvhether the Romain Church faythe or rather the Church of the reformers be the Catholike consequently the Christian Churche for these tvvoe Catholike Christiā euer vvēt together And here I require noe diuines nor Philosophers to be Iudges in this matter only let me haue mē that haue eares or eyes I desire noe more For the eye vvill easilie Iudge vvhether of these tvvo Churches bee most like to bee Catholike The Romaine Churche vvhich the aduersary calleth Papisticall hath florished in all ages and in the most parte of the vvorld as all histories vvill testifie And novve at this daye our faythe and Churche one and the same is diffused throughe out Spaine Fraunce Italie Portugall and a great parte of Flanders and Germanie yea it reacheth euen to the Indianes and other nevv found countries conuerted by the Benedictines See the first booke first chap. Iesuites and other religious men And so it is Catholique bicause being one and the same it hathe euer possessed all ages countries and still dothe euen to this daye As for the reformers Church and faythe I see noe signe of a Catholike Church in it For first it began not an hundred yeares since In the fifte chapter as before is demonstrated Secondly it neuer yet possessed the vvholle vvorld nor any great part of it as the eye vvill beare vvitnesse only it hathe gotten entertaynmēt in certayne partes of the vvorld as England Scotland Holland and some Cantons of Germanie Thirdly it is not one Church nor faythe that possesseth all these places but many yea scarce one religion filleth one shire or citie Vvherfore allthoughe England vvere all the vvorld and this age all ages yet vvere not their religion Catholike bicause it is not one faythe and religion in all the shyres of England nor all the yeares of this age for in Englande are many sectes and religions and they also different from the nevve faythes of other countries for there is great difference betvvixte them and the Lutheranes in Germanie Hugonots in Fraunce and Gues in Flanders Nether is it sufficient for any of them to say that their faythe is Catholike bicause all are inuited to it and cōmaunded to accept of it for so euerie sectmaster may saye of his religion and I haue proued that the true Christian faythe Church and religion is Catholike in that it being one possesseth all ages and countries Vvherfore to conclude seing that the Church or rather Churches of the reformers neuer possessed all ages and countries yea neuer one and the same filled any one countrie it follovveth that their Church is not Catholike and consequently not the true Christian Church and so they are no true Christians but heretiques and singuler sectmasters if euer there vvere any bicause in that they are of particuler sectes they vveare the same Badge vvhich Donatistes Arians Nestorians and such like haue vvorne before them and for vvhich they
for auoiding of offence But thē I aske Caluin vvhat hee meaneth vvhen he sayeth that they ought to keepe the lavve ether hee meaneth by those vvordes an obligation in conscience vnder payne of sinne and then it follovveth vvhich Caluin vvill not graunte that lavves bynde in conscience or else he meaneth only a congruitie or decencie and then it follovveth still that lavves are brought in contempte For if once a man bee persuaded that it is only conuenient but not necessarie to keepe the lavve hee needeth to make no scruple to transgresse the lavve bicause the transgression is no sinne but only an incongruitie And so if this doctrine bee true men vvill not care a stravve for the Princes lavves Rebelliouse subiectes mutinous souldiours stubborne children crooked seruauntes may bee disobediente by authoritie bicause no lavve nor commaundement can bynde them in conscience to loyall obedience And then lavves lose their force authoritie is not to bee esteemed rebellion and mutini● are allovved the gappe is open to all malefactours all outrages are lavvfull bicause vvhere noe lavve bindeth noe sinne can bee committed noe man is subiecte euery man is lavvlesse as free as the kinge subiecte to noe lavve nor authoritie of God or man Vvhat securitie hath a Prince amongest such lavvless subiects hovv can he chuse but feare reuolte and rebellion of those vvho are persuaded by religion that noe lavve can bynde them in conscience to order and obedience Is this religion like to bee of God vvhich is so opposit to humaine authoritie vvhich is of God yea vvhich also despoileth God of all authoritie to commaund his creatures If our noble Prince and graue Counsaylours in Ingland considered vvel this doctrine then certes the first Parlament they called should be to banishe this lavvless and licentiouse religion vvhich bringeth lavves in contēpte Princes in daunger and openeth the gapp to all outrages of malefactours The fourth chapter shevveth hovv according to their doctrine noe Prince can relye on his subiects no subiects on their Prince nor on fellovv-subiects and consequently all Societie and ciuil conuersation is taken avvay MAn as I haue already vppon another occasion declared is of nature bente and enclined vnto companye and conuersation in some Societie or other vvhere if he be a Superiour he ruleth if he bee an inferiour he is ruled and learneth to cōply vvith his fellovve subiects And of these three parts consisteth ciuil conuersation For if the Prince rule not as he should doe or the inferiour obey not his superiour or comply not vvith his fellovv subiecte as he ought to doe gouernment degenerateth into tyrannie obedience turneth to rebellion and conuersation to ciuill dissension These three partes are mainteined by one thinge vvhich is truste or cōfidence in one another for seing that the Prince can not do all alone bicause he must expecte aide and assistaunce of his subiects hee shall neuer rule vvell vnlesse hee maye rely vppon the fidelitie and correspondence of his subiects And if the subiect put not a confidence in his Superiour as in one that tendreth the cōmon good of all and particuler of euery one he vvill neuer obey vvillīgly nor rely on him securely but shall euer liue in feare distrust of him And if one subiecte trust not another euerie one shall liue in suspicion of another and so mens vvords vvilbe taken but for vvinde promises cōtractes and bargaines vvill not hold assuredly frendship breaketh familiaritie decaieth and conuersation is ruined For vvho vvill make bargaines or strike a league of frendship or familiaritie vvith thē on vvhose secrecie fidelitie other correspondence he hath not any probable assuraunce bicause he putteth no trust nor confidence in them rather hathe he cause to fly all company and like a 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 and hater of men to liue in vvoods vvilderness then in tovvnes cities and societies Novv if the reformers doctrine vvhich teacheth that lavves bynde not in conscience may goe for currāt the three partes of ciuil conuersation are taken avvay so Societies must breake vp and euerie one must liue alone like an Anachorite or Heremite bicause in company is noe securitie vvhere according to this doctrine nether the Prince can rely on his subiects nor they on him nor one subiect on another And to begin vvith the Prince vvhat confidence can he put in his subiects vvho are persuaded in religion that nether his lavves can bynde them to obedience nor the lavve of God or nature hinder them from rebellion mutinie or other outrages hath he not iuste cause thus to discourse vvvith him selfe This people is persuaded by religion that no lavv byndeth them in conscience consequently they make no scrouple nor cōscience of Rebellion for vvhere noe lavv byndeth in cōscience there no consciēce is to be made I must therfore stāde continually on my garde rely vppō no subiets fidelitie And how shall I stāde on my garde vvhē euen my garde according to Caluins opinion is bound by no lavve to be true and faithfull vnto mee And so he shall liue alvvayes in feare of his subiects And on the otherside vvhat confidence can the subiects haue in their Prince For if noe lavv bynde him in cōscience he hauing all in his ovvne hands may vse vvhat extorsion and tyrannie hee pleaseth For vvhat should vvithold him from it feare of god God can not iustly punish vvhere noe lavves bynde in conscience and so he is not be feared conscience Vvher no lavve byndes conscience needes to make noe scruple Vvhy then is not all lavvfull for the Prince vvhich he liketh And so the subiecte shall euer haue his Superiour in suspicion And vvhat good fellovvship amitie or conuersation can ther bee amōgest the subiectes vvho must needs by this doctrine liue in a continuall feare and distruste of one another bicause no man is bound to keep touche and correspondence vvith another For if lavves bynd not promises and contractes not only in lending and borrovving buying and selling but also in marying are not of force to bynd our consciences bicause they are but particuler lavves or if they are more forcible in bynding then lavves then according to Caluin Christe is noe perfecte Redeemer bicause he hath not freed vs from the bondage of promises and bargaines vvhich not vvith standing are noe lavves of Princes but particuler lavves of particuler men made betvvixte man and man for more assured conuersation And so the vvife may iustly fear least her husband vvhen hee is vveary of her or liketh better of another may shake her of diuorse him selfe from her For vvhy maye hee not If lavves of Princes bynde not in conscience then the contracte of matrimonie vvhich is but a particuler lavv can take noe hold of cōscience and so by the libertie vvhich Caluin giueth him vvhich is to be free in cōscience frō all lavves hee may leaue his vvife vvhen and as ofte as hee vvill and as often may hee take another And if