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A59095 Table-talk, being discourses of John Seldon, Esq or his sense of various matters of weight and high consequence, relating especially to religion and state. Selden, John, 1584-1654. 1696 (1696) Wing S2438; ESTC R3639 74,052 204

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and both are Humane For Example suppose the Word Egg were in the Text I say 't is meant an Hen-Egg you say a Goose-Egg neither of these are exprest therefore they are Humane Inventions and I am sure the newer the Invention the worse old Inventions are best 2. If we must admit nothing but what we read in the Bible what will become of the Parliament for we do not read of that there Iudgments 1. WE cannot tell what is a Judgment of God 't is presumption to take upon us to know In time of Plague we know we want Health and therefore we pray to God to give us Health in time of War we know we want Peace and therefore we pray to God to give us Peace Commonly we say a Judgment falls upon a Man for something in him we cannot abide An Example we have in King James concerning the Death of Henry the Fourth of France one said he was kill'd for his Wenching another said he was kill'd for turning his Religion No says King James who could not abide fighting he was kill'd for permitting Duels in his Kingdom Judge 1. WE see the Pageants in Cheapside the Lions and the Elephants but we do not see the Men that carry them we see the Judges look big look like Lions but we do not see who moves them 2. Little things do great works when the great things will not If I should take a Pin from the Ground a little pair of Tongues will do it when a great Pair will not Go to a Judge to do a Business for you by no means he will not hear of it but go to some small Servant about him and he will dispatch it according to your hearts desire 3. There could be no Mischief in the Common-Wealth without a Judge Tho' there be false Dice brought in at the Groom-Porters and cheating offer'd yet unless he allow the Cheating and judge the Dice to be good there may be hopes of fair Play Juggling 1. 'T IS not Juggling that is to be blam'd but much Juggling for the World cannot be Govern'd without it All your Rhetorick and all your Elench's in Logick come within the compass of Juggling Jurisdiction 1. THere 's no such Thing as Spiritual Jurisdiction all is Civil the Churche's is the same with the Lord Mayors Suppose a Christian came into a Pagan Country how can you fancy he shall have any Power there he finds faults with the Gods of the Country well they will put him to Death for it when he is a Martyr what follows Does that argue he has any spiritual Jurisdiction If the Clergy say the Church ought to be govern'd thus and thus by the Word of God that is Doctrine all that is not Discipline 2. The Pope he challenges Jurisdiction over all the Bishops they pretend to it as well as he the Presbyterians they would have it to themselves but over whom is all this the poor Laymen Jus Divinum 1. ALL things are held by Jus Divinum either immediately or mediately 2. Nothing has lost the Pope so much in his Supremacy as not acknowledging what Princes gave him 'T is a scorn upon the Civil Power and an unthankfulness in the Priest But the Church runs to Jus divinum lest if they should acknowledge what they have by positive Law it might be as well taken from them as given to them King 1. A King is a thing Men have made for their own Sakes for quietness-sake Just as in a Family one Man is appointed to buy the Meat if every Man should buy what the other lik'd not or what the other had bought before so there would be a confusion But that Charge being committed to one he according to his Discretion pleases all if they have not what they would have one day they shall have it the next or something as good 2. The word King directs our Eyes suppose it had been Consul or Dictator to think all Kings alike is the same folly as if a Consul of Aleppo or Smyrna should claim to himself the same Power that a Consul at Rome What am not I a Consul or a Duke of England should think himself like the Duke of Florence nor can it be imagin'd that the word 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 did signifie the same in Greek as the Hebrew Word 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 did with the Jews Besides let the Divines in their Pulpits say what they will they in their practice deny that all is the Kings They sue him and so does all the Nation whereof they are a part What matter is it then what they Preach or Teach in the Schools 3. Kings are all individual this or that King there is no Species of Kings 4. A King that claims Priviledges in his own Country because they have them in another is just as a Cook that claims Fees in one Lord's House because they are allowed in another If the Master of the House will yield them well and good 5. The Text Render unto Caesar the things that are Caesar's makes as much against Kings as for them for it says plainly that some things are not Caesars But Divines make choice of it first in Flattery and then because of the other part adjoyn'd to it Render unto God the things that are Gods where they bring in the Church 6. A King outed of his Country that takes as much upon him as he did at home in his own Court is as if a Man on high and I being upon the Ground us'd to lift up my voice to him that he might hear me at length should come down and then expects I should speak as loud to him as I did before King of England 1. THE King can do no wrong that is no Process can be granted against him What must be done then Petition him and the King writes upon the Petition soit droit fait and sends it to the Chancery and then the business is heard His Confessor will not tell him he can do no wrong 2. There 's a great deal of difference between Head of the Church and Supream Governour as our Canons call the King Conceive it thus there is in the Kingdom of England a Colledge of Physicians the King is Supream Governour of those but not Head of them nor President of the Colledge nor the best Physician 3. After the Dissolution of Abbies they did not much advance the King's Supremacy for they only car'd to exclude the Pope hence have we had several Translations of the Bible upon us But now we must look to it otherwise the King may put upon us what Religion he pleases 4. 'T was the old way when the King of England had his House there were Canons to sing Service in his Chappel so at Westminster in St. Stephen's Chappel where the House of Commons sits from which Canons the Street call'd Canon-row has its Name because they liv'd there and he had also the Abbot and his Monks and all these the King's House 5. The
to command that is where he must be obeyed so is every Supream Power and Prince They that stretch his Infallibility further do they know not what 5. When a Protestant and a Papish dispute they talk like two Mad-men because they do not agree upon their Principles the one way is to destroy the Pope's Power for if he hath Power to command me 't is not my alledging Reasons to the contrary can keep me from obeying For Example if a Constable command me to wear a green Suit to Morrow and has Power to make me 't is not my alledging a hundred Reasons of the Folly of it can excuse me from doing it 6. There was a Time when the Pope had Power here in England and there was excellent Use made of it for 't was only to serve Turns as might be manifested out of the Records of the Kingdom which Divines know little of If the King did not like what the Pope would have he would forbid the Pope's Legate to land upon his Ground So that the Power was truly then in the King though suffered in the Pope But now the Temporal and the Spiritual Power Spiritual so call'd because ordain'd to a Spiritual End spring both from one Fountain they are like to twist that 7. The Protestants in France bear Office in the State because though their Religion be different yet they acknowledge no other King but the King of France The Papists in England they must have a King of their own a Pope that must do something in our Kingdom therefore there is no reason they should enjoy the same Priviledges 8. Amsterdam admits of all Religions but Papists and 't is upon the same Account The Papists where e'er they live have another King at Rome all other Religions are subject to the present State and have no Prince else-where 9. The Papists call our Religion a Parliamentary Religion but there was once I am sure a Parliamentary Pope Pope Urban was made Pope in England by Act of Parliament against Pope Clement The Act is not in the Book of Statutes either because he that compiled the Book would not have the Name of the Pope there or else he would not let it appear that they medled with any such thing but 't is upon the Rolls 10. When our Clergy preach against the Pope and the Church of Rome they preach against themselves and crying down their Pride their Power and their Riches have made themselves Poor and Contemptible enough they dedicate first to please their Prince not considering what would follow Just as if a Man were to go a Journey and seeing at his first setting out the Way clean and fair ventures forth in his Slippers not considering the Dirt and the Sloughs are a little further off or how suddenly the Weather may change Popery 1. THE demanding a Noble for a dead body passing through a a Town came from hence in time of Popery they carried the dead Body into the Church where the Priest said Dirgies and twenty Dirgies at four Pence a piece comes to a Noble but now it is forbidden by an Order from my Lord Marshal the Heralds carry his Warrant about them 2. We charge the Prelatical Clergy with Popery to make them odious tho' we know they are guilty of no such thing Just as heretofore they call'd Images Mammets and the Adoration of Images Mammetry that is Mahomet and Mahometry odious Names when all the World knows the Turks are forbidden Images by their Religion Power State 1. THere is no stretching of Power 't is a good Rule Eat within your Stomach Act within your Commission 2. They that govern most make least Noise You see when they row in a Barge they that do drudgery-work slash and puff and sweat but he that governs sits quietly at the Stern and scarce is seen to stir 3. Syllables govern the World 4. All Power is of God means no more than Fides est servanda When St. Paul said this the People had made Nero Emperour They agree he to command they to obey Then Gods comes in and casts a hook upon them keep your Faith then comes in all Power is of God Never King dropt out of the Clouds God did not make a new Emperour as the King makes a Justice of Peace 5. Christ himself was a great observer of the Civil Power and did many things only justifiable because the State requir'd it which were things meerly Temporary for the time that State stood But Divines make use of them to gain Power to themselves as for Example that of Die Ecclesiae tell the Church there was then a Sanhedrim a Court to tell it to and therefore they would have it so now 6. Divines ought to do no more than what the State permits Before the State became Christian they made their own Laws and those that did not observe them they Excommunicated naughty men they suffered them to come no more amongst them But if they would come amongst them how could they hinder them By what Law by what Power they were still subject to the State which was Heathen Nothing better expresses the Condition of Christians in those times than one of the meetings you have in London of Men of the same Country of Sussex-Men or Bedfordshire-Men they appoint their Meeting and they agree and make Laws amongst themselves He that is not there shall pay double c. and if any one mis-behave himself they shut him out of their Company But can they recover a Forfeiture made concerning their Meeting by any Law Have they any power to compel one to pay but afterwards when the State became Christian all the Power was in them and they gave the Church as much or as little as they pleas'd and took away when they pleas'd and added what they pleas'd 7. The Church is not only subject to the Civil Power with us that are Protestants but also in Spain if the Church does Excommunicate a Man for what it should not the Civil Power will take him out of their Hands So in France the Bishop of Angiers alter'd something in the Breviary they complain'd to the Parliament at Paris that made him alter it again with a comme abuse 8. the Parliament of England has no Arbitrary Power in point of Judicature but in point of making Law only 9. If the Prince be servus natura of a servile base Spirit and the Subjects liberi Free and Ingenuous oft-times they depose their Prince and govern themselves On the contrary if the People be Servi Natura and some one amongst them of a Free and Ingenuous Spirit he makes himself King of the rest and this is the Cause of all changes in State Common-wealths into Monarchies and Monarchies into Common-wealths 10. In a troubled State we must do as in foul Weather upon the Thames not think to cut directly through so the Boat may be quickly full of Water but rise and fall as the Waves do give as much as conveniently we can
a wise Man that knows the minds and insides of Men which is done by knowing what is habitual to them Proverbs are habitual to a Nation being transmitted from Father to Son Question 1. WHen a doubt is propounded you must learn to distinguish and show wherein a thing holds and wherein it doth not hold Ay or no never answer'd any Question The not distinguishing where things should be distinguish'd and the not confounding where things should be confounded is the cause of all the Mistakes in the World Reason 1. IN giving Reasons Men commonly do with us as the Woman does with her Child when she goes to Market about her Business she tells it she goes to buy it a fine Thing to buy it a Cake or some Plums They give us such Reasons as they think we will be catched withal but never let us know the Truth 2. When the School-Men talk of Recta Ratio in Morals either they understand Reason as it is govern'd by a Command from above or else they say no more than a Woman when she says a thing is so because it is so that is her Reason perswades her 't is so The other Acception has Sense in it As take a Law of the Land I must not depopulate my Reason tells me so Why Because if I do I incurr the detriment 3. The Reason of a Thing is not to be enquired after till you are sure the Thing it self be so We commonly are at What 's the Reason of it before we are sure of the Thing 'T was an excellent Question of my Lady Cotten when Sir Robert Cotten was magnifying of a Shooe which was Moses's or Noah's and wondring at the strange Shape and Fashion of it But Mr. Cotten says she are you sure it is a Shooe Retaliation 1. AN Eye for an Eye and a Tooth for a Tooth That does not mean that if I put out another Man's Eye therefore I must lose one of my own for what is he the better for that tho' this be commonly received but it means I shall give him what Satisfaction an Eye shall be judged to be worth Reverence 1. T IS sometimes unreasonable to look after Respect and Reverence either from a Man 's own Servant or other Inferiours A great Lord and a Gentleman talking together there came a Boy by leading a Calf with both his Hands says the Lord to the Gentleman You shall see me make the Boy let go his Calf with that he came towards him thinking the Boy would have put off his Hat but the Boy took no Notice of him The Lord seeing that Sirrah says he Do you not know me that you use no Reverence Yes says the Boy if your Lordship will hold my Calf I will put off my Hat Non-Residency 1. THE People thought they had a great Victory over the Clergy when in Henry the Eighth's time they got their Bill passed That a Clergy-Man should have but two Livings before a Man might have Twenty or Thirty 't was but getting a Dispensation from the Pope's Limiter or Gatherer of the Peter-Pence which was as easily got as now you may have a Licence to eat Flesh. 2. As soon as a Minister is made he hath Power to preach all over the World but the Civil-Power restrains him he cannot preach in this Parish or in that there is one already appointed Now if the State allows him Two Livings then he hath Two Places where he may Exercise his Function and so has the more Power to do his Office which he might do every where if he were not restrained Religion 1. KIng James said to the Fly Have I Three Kingdoms and thou must needs fly into my Eye Is there not enough to meddle with upon the Stage or in Love or at the Table but Religion 2. Religion amongst Men appears to me like the Learning they got at School Some Men forget all they learned others spend upon the Stock and some improve it So some Men forget all the Religion that was taught them when they were Young others spend upon that Stock and some improve it 3. Religion is like the Fashion one Man wears his Doublet slash'd another lac'd another plain but every Man has a Doublet So every Man has his Religion We differ about Trimming 4. Men say they are of the same Relion for Quietness sake but if the Matter were well examin'd you would scarce find Three any where of the same Religion in all Points 5. Every Religion is a getting Religion for though I my self get nothing I am subordinate to those that do So you may find a Lawyer in the Temple that gets little for the present but he is fitting himself to be in time one of those great Ones that do get 6. Alteration of Religion is dangerous because we know not where it will stay 't is like a Milstone that lies upon the top of a pair of Stairs 't is hard to remove it but if once it be thrust off the first Stair it never stays till it comes to the bottom 7. Question Whether is the Church or the Scripture Judge of Religion Answ. In truth neither but the State I am troubled with a Boil I call a Company of Chirurgeons about me one prescribes one thing another another I single out something I like and ask you that stand by and are no Chirurgeon what you think of it You like it too you and I are Judges of the Plaster and we bid them prepare it and there 's an end Thus 't is in Religion the Protestants say they will be judged by the Scriptures the Papists say so too but that cannot speak A Judge is no Judge except he can both speak and command Execution but the truth is they never intend to agree No doubt the Pope where he is Supream is to be Judg if he say we in England ought to be subject to him then he must draw his Sword and make it good 8. By the Law was the Manual received into the Church before the Reformation not by the Civil Law that had nothing to do in it nor by the Canon Law for that Manual that was here was not in France nor in Spain but by Custom which is the Common Law of England and Custom is but the Elder Brother to a Parliament and so it will fall out to be nothing that the Papists say Ours is a Parliamentary Religion by reason the Service-Book was Established by Act of Parliament and never any Service-Book was so before That will be nothing that the Pope sent the Manual 't was ours because the State received it The State still makes the Religion and receives into it what will best agree with it Why are the Venetians Roman Catholicks because the State likes the Religion All the World knows they care not Three-pence for the Pope The Council of Trent is not at this day admitted in France 9. Papist Where was your Religion before Luther an Hundred years ago Protestant Where was America an
Baptism 2. The Baptising of Children with us does only prepare a Child against he comes to be a Man to understand what Christianity means In the Church of Rome it has this Effect it frees Children from Hell They say they go into Limbus Infantum It succeeds Circumcision and we are sure the Child understood nothing of that at eight Days old why then may not we as reasonably baptise a Child at that Age in England of late years I ever thought the Parson baptiz'd his own Fingers rather than the Child 3. In the Primitive Times they had God-fathers to see the Children brought up in the Christian Religion because many times when the Father was a Christia● the Mother was not and sometimes when the Mother was a Christian the Father was not and therefore they made choice of two or more that were Christians to see their Children brought up in that Faith Bastard 1. 'T IS said the 23d of Deuteron 2. A Bastard shall not enter into the Congregation of the Lord even to the tenth Generation Non ingredietur in Ecclesiam Domini he shall not enter into the Church The meaning of the Phraise is he shall not marry a Jewish Woman But upon this grosly mistaken a Bastard at this Day in the Church of Rome without a Dispensation cannot take Orders the thing haply well enough where 't is so settled but 't is upon a Mistake the Place having no reference to the Church appears plainly by what follows at the third Verse An Ammonite or Moabite shall not enter into the Congregation of the Lord even to the tenth Generation Now you know with the Jews an Ammonite or a Moabite could never be a Priest because their Priests were born so not made Bible Scripture 1. 'T IS a great Question how we know Scripture to be Scripture whether by the Church or by Man's private Spirit Let me ask you how I know any thing how I know this Carpet to be green First because some body told me it was green that you call the Church in your Way Then after I have been told it is green when I see that Colour again I know it to be green my own Eyes tell me it is green that you call the private Spirit 2. The English Translation of the Bible is the best Translation in the World and renders the Sense of the Original best taking in for the English Translation the Bishop's Bible as well as King James's The Translation in King James's time took an excellent way That Part of the Bible was given to him who was most excellent in such a Tongue as the Apocrypha to Andrew Downs and then they met together and one read the Translation the rest holding in their Hands some Bible either of the learned Tongues or French Spanish Italian c. if they found any Fault they spoke if not he read on 3. There is no Book so translated as the Bible for the purpose If I translate a French Book into English I turn it into English Phrase not into French English Il fait froid I say 't is cold not it makes cold but the Bible is rather translated into English Words than into English Phrase The Hebraisms are kept and the Phrase of that Language is kept As for Example He uncover'd her Shame which is well enough so long as Scholars have to do with it but when it comes among the Common People Lord what Jeer do they make of it 4. Scrutamini Scripturas These two Words have undone the World because Christ spake it to his Disciples therefore we must all Men Women and Children read and interpret the Scripture 5. Henry the Eighth made a Law that all Men might read the Scripture except Servants but no Woman except Ladies and Gentlewomen who had Leisure and might ask somebody the Meanning The Law was repeal'd in Edward the Sixth's Days 6. Lay-men have best interpreted the hard Places in the Bible such as Johannes Picus Scaliger Grotius Salmansius Heinsius c. 7. If you ask which of Erasmus Beza or Grotius did best upon the New Testament 't is an idle Question For they all did well in their Way Erasmus broke down the first Brick Beza added many things and Grotius added much to him in whom we have either something new or something heighten'd that was said before and so 't was necessary to have them all three 8. The Text serves only to guess by we must satisfie our selves fully out of the Authors that liv'd about those times 9. In interpreting the Scripture many do as if a Man should see one have ten Pounds which he reckon'd by 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10. meaning four was but four Unites and five sive Unites c. and that he had in all but ten Pounds the other that sees him takes not the Figures together as he doth but picks here and there and thereupon reports that he hath five Pounds in one Bag and six Pounds in another Bag and nine Pounds in another Bag c. when as in truth he hath but ten Pounds in all So we pick out a Text here and there to make it serve our turn whereas if we take it altogether and consider'd what went before and what followed after we should find it meant no such thing 10. Make no more Alegories in Scripture than needs must the Fathers were too frequent in them they indeed before they fully understood the literal Sense look'd out for an Alegory The Folly whereof you may conceive thus Here at the first sight appears to me in my Window a Glass and a Book I take it for granted 't is a Glass and a Book thereupon I go about to tell you what they signifie afterwards upon nearer view they prove no such thing one is a Box made like a Book the other is a Picture made like a Glass where 's now my Alegory 11. When Men meddle with the literal Text the Question is where they should stop In this Case a Man must venture his Discretion and do his best to satisfie himself and others in those Places where he doubts for although we call the Scripture the Word of God as it is yet it was writ by a Man a mercenary Man whose Copy either might be false or he might make it false For Example here were a thousand Bibles printed in England with the Text thus Thou shalt commit Adultery the Word not left out might not this Text be mended 12. The Scripture may have more Senses besides the Literal because God understands all things at once but a Man's Writing has but one true Sense which is that which the Author meant when he writ it 13. When you meet with several Readings of the Text take heed you admit nothing against the Tenets of your Church but do as if you were going over a Bridge be sure you hold fast by the Rail and then you may dance here and there as you please be sure you keep to what is
at first were juggled out of their Estates yet they are rightly their Successors If my Father cheat a Man and he consent to it the Inheritance is rightly mine 11. If there be no Bishops there must be something else which has the Power of Bishops though it be in many and then had you not as good keep them If you will have no half Crowns but only single Pence yet Thirty single Pence are half a Crown and then had you not as good keep both But the Bishops have done ill 't was the Men not the Function As if you should say you would have no more Half-Crowns because they were stolen when the Truth is they were not stolen because they were Half Crowns but because they were Mony and light in a Thieves hand 12. They that would pull down the Bishops and erect a new way of Government do as he that pulls down an old House and builds another in another Fashion there 's a great deal of Do and a great deal of Trouble the old Rubbish must be carried away and new Materials must be brought Workmen must be provided and perhaps the old one would have serv'd as well 13. If the Parliament and Presbyterian Party should dispute who should be Judge Indeed in the beginning of Queen Elizabeth there was such a Difference between the Protestants and Papists and Sir Nicholas Bacon Lord Chancellor was appointed to be Judge but the Conclusion was the stronger Party carried it For so Religion was brought into Kingdoms so it has been continued and so it may be cast out when the State pleases 14. 'T will be great Discouragement to Scholars that Bishops should be put down For now the Father can say to his Son and the Tutor to his Pupil Study hard and you shall have Vocem Sedem in Parliamento then it must be Study hard and you shall have a Hundred a Tear if you please your Parish Object But they that enter into the Ministry for Preferment are like Judas that look'd after the Bag. Answ. It may be so if they turn Scholars at Judas's Age but what Arguments will they use to persuade them to follow their Books while they are young Books Authors 1. THE giving a Bookseller his Price for his Books has this Advantage he that will do so shall have the Refusal of whatsoever comes to his Hand and so by that means get many things which otherwise he never should have seen So 't is in giving a Bawd her Price 2. In buying Books or other Commodities 't is not always the best way to bid half so much as the Seller asks witness the Country Fellow that went to buy two groat Shillings they ask'd him three Shillings and he bad them eighteen Pence 3. They counted the Price of the Books Acts 19. 19. and found Fifty Thousand Pieces of Silver that is so many Sextertii or so many Three-half-pence of our Money about Three Hundred Pound Sterling 4. Popish Books teach and inform what we know we know much out of them The Fathers Church Story Schoolmen all may pass for Popish Books and if you take away them what Learning will you leave Besides who must be Judge The Customer or the Writer If he disallows a Book it must not be brought into the Kingdom then Lord have Mercy upon all Scholars These Puritan Preachers if they have any things good they have it out of Popish Books tho' they will not acknowledge it for fear of displeasing the People he is a poor Divine that cannot severe the Good from the Bad. 5. 'T is good to have Translations because they serve as a Comment so far as the Judgment of the Man goes 6. In answering a Book 't is best to be short otherwise he that I write against will suspect I intend to weary him not to satisfie him Besides in being long I shall give my Adversary a huge Advantage somewhere or other he will pick a Hole 7. In quoting of Books quote such Authors as are usually read others you may read for your own Satisfaction but not name them 8. Quoting of Authors is most for matter of Fact and then I write them as I would produce a Witness sometimes for a free Expression and then I give the Author his Due and gain my self Praise by reading him 9. To quote a Modern Dutch Man where I may use a Clasic Author is as if I were to justifie my Reputation and I neglect all Persons of Note and Quality that know me and bring the Testimonial of the Scullion in the Kitchen Canon-Law IF I would study the Canon-Law as it is used in England I must study the Heads here in use then go to the Practisers in those Courts where that Law is practised and know their Customs so for all the Study in the World Ceremony 1. CEremony keeps up all things 'T is like a Penny-Glass to a rich Spirit or some excellent Water without it the Water were spilt the Spirit lost 2. Of all People Ladies have no reason to cry down Ceremonies for they take themselves slighted without it And were they not used with Ceremony with Complements and Addresses with Legs and Kissing of Hands they were the pitifulest Creatures in the World but yet methinks to kiss their Hands after their Lips as some do is like little Boys that after they eat the Apple fall to the Paring out of a Love they have to the Apple Chancellour 1. THE Bishop is not to sit with a Chancellor in his Court as being a thing either beneath him or beside him no more than the King is to sit in the King's-Bench when he has made a Lord-Chief-Justice 2. The Chancellour govern'd in the Church who was a Lay-man And therefore 't is false which they charge the Bishops with that they challenge sole Jurisdiction For the Bishop can no more put out the Chancellor than the Chancellor the Bishop They were many of them made Chancellors for their Lives and he is the fittest Man to govern because Divinity so overwhelms the rest Changing Sides 1. 'T IS the Tryal of a Man to see if he will change his side and if he be so weak as to change once he will change again Your Country Fellows have a way to try if a Man be weak in the Hams by coming behind him and giving him a Blow unawares if he bend once he will bend again 2. The Lords that fall from the King after they have got Estates by base Flattery at Court and now pretend Conscience do as a Vintner that when he first sets up you may bring your Wench to his House and do your things there But when he grows Rich he turns conscientious and will sell no Wine upon the Sabbath-day 3. Colonel Goring serving first the one side and then the other did like a good Miller that knows how to grind which way soever the Wind sits 4. After Luther had made a Combustion in Germany about Religion he was sent to by the Pope