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A75502 An Apologie for Mr. Iohn Goodwin: who having subscribed proposalls to be presented to the magistrate concerning matters of religion; after that, makes 30 Queries, whether it be the magistrates duty to interpose his authoritie in matters of religion. 1653 (1653) Wing A3545; Thomason E690_5; ESTC R206986 6,148 11

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