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Word A	Word B	Word C	Word D	Occurrence	Frequency Band	MI	MI Band	Prominent
religion_n	civil_a	magistrate_n	matter_n	3,433	5	6.0251	4	false

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ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A02681	Fratres sobrii estote. I. Pet. 5. 8. Or, An admonition to the fryars of this Kingdome of Ireland to abandon such hereticall doctrines as they daylie publish to the corruption of our holy faith, the ruine of soules, and their owne damnation which sleepeth not, by Paul Harris priest.	Harris, Paul, 1573-1635?	1634 (1634)	STC 12812; ESTC S116531	69,749	97

leave of the world Mundus non mundar sed mundus polluit Ergo Qui manet in mundo Quomodo mundus erit But how truly may I say with old Tobias Great art thou O Lord who dost wound and heale who brings unto the gates of death and backe againe Tob. 13. And so while yet we have time operemnt bonum ad omnes let us do good to all especially to the domestiques of faith as the Apostle adviceth us It being the office of a good pastor as well to seeke the stray sheepe as to feede the ninety and nine CAP. VIII An Objection answered THere remaines then a difficulty to bee removed for some will well allow of my precedent discourse were it not for one blocke which lyes in their way confessing indeede that in all causes meerely civill Clarkes were anciently empleaded in the Kings temporall courts Neither say they was this to be misliked so long as these kingdomes did stand constan● in the profession of the Catholique and Roman religion but fince they have declined therefrom and that the Magistrates are now of an other opinion and profession in the service of God then in those times they were That of the Apostle seemes to take place writing to the Corinthians who having received the law of our Saviour did notwithstanding in their wordly controversies draw one another unto the heathen tribunals Sic nonest inter vos sapiens quisquam c. So is there not among you any wiseman that can judge betweene his brother but brother with brother contendeth in judgement and that before unbeleivers 1. Cor. 7. Now therefore say these men It is not lawfull in these countryes rebus sic stantibus to draw clergy men to the secular tribunals of Protestant judges To which I answer That the Argument which concludes more then it ought is alwayes vitious and that reason which may bee retorted upon the arguer is ever inconsiderately propounded For if that passage of the Apostle were a precept and so binding under sinne to obedience then not onely the Ecclesiastique but the lay Catholicke might not bee compelled to answer before such Magistrates forsomuch as S. Paul speakes generally of all the faithfull without any distinction And therefore our Rhemists according to the universall consent of the fathers doe understand the words of the Apostle in the nature of a Councell and not of a commaund And happy I confesse it were if that Apostolicall councell and advice were followed namely that controversies and suits 'twixt parties which are many times commenced for light causes and more out of stomacke malice and revenge then of good conscience might be composed at home by friends and neighbours sine strepitu forens● without this lawyerly pleading at the Barre the benefit whereof is commonly small and uncertaine but the discommodityes both great and apparant as losse of time expence of money with much disquietnesse and vexation of minde But this is a happinesse rather to be wished then ever to be expected among such variety of wills hnmours and dispositions as the world more then ever abounds withall But to hold it absolutely unlawfull for Christians to wage law before publicke tribunalls as it is at this day the heresie of the Anabaptists So to deny that the Roman Catholickes may convent or bee convented in the courts of such magistrates under whom they live notwithstanding what difference soever in matter of religion smells very strong of the heresie of Wicliffe condemned in the Councell of Constance Forsomuch as it is the consent of all divines that no variety of opinion no error in faith no infidelity destroyes or takes away the power of the civill magistrate either supreame or subordinate Such obedience then as heretofore was due unto Catholicke princes by their subjects the same is no lesse due unto their successors of what opinion in matters of faith soever they be Religion being but accidentall and not at all essentiall unto civill principality ordained by God for the politicke and peaceable government of mankind according to that Per me Reges regnant legam conditores justadesernunt Prov. 8. By me Kings raigne and those who make lawes determine just things If then clergy men were lawfully convented in civill actions before Catholicke princes and Magistrates in times past as hath beene proved so no lesse also may they bee before Protestants at this day and the contrary doctrine of our Friars and their followers is but a corner doctrine and of no good subjects And if not of their owne choise and free election it were both good for the Church and common wealth and also for themselves that they might be forced both to live and teach conformable to their holy institutes and so happily there would bee an end of all Controversies 'twixt the Clergy and them An Epistle of the Author unto Thomas Flemming alias Barnwell Archbishop of Dublin AS I began with an Epistle unto Pope Vrbanus 8. now sitting at the helme of S. Peters Barque So it will not be impertinent by reason of some late occurents to conclude with an Epistle unto Tho. Flemming Archbishop of Dublin in the behalfe of the poore distressed Clergy of his Diocesse If any marvaile wherefore I doe addresse my letters unto him rather in print then in private the cause is as I have declared in the 6. chap. That upon what humour or by whose perswasion I know not he refuseth to receive any letter from me sent unto him by any private messenger Yet what I publish in print I finde that he most diligently peruseth Now for that my desire is he should read what I write whether I be his friend as I perswade my selfe I am Or his Adversary as he supposeth yet even from an Adversary some benefit may bee reaped Else had Plutarch never writ his booke Deutilitate ab inimico capienda Of the commodity to be made of an enemy Nor ever had S. Monica the mother of that great S. Aug. beene taught to drinke water had not her shrewd may de in her anger called her a wine bibber as S. Aug. himselfe tells us in the 9. booke of his Confess chap. 8. You see then how I endeav our to comply with the Archbishops humour and that to the example of diverse holy and learned men who have divulged unto the world those very same Epistles which they have directed unto particular persons without any private mission or signature sometimes commending their good actions sometimes reproving their bad So S. Hicrom so S. Bernard admonishing not onely Bishops and Abbates but even Popes and princes of their excesses But it will bee said that they were Saints and I a poore sinner yet say I they were not knowne by that stile when they wrote those Epistles but with much more humility then doubtlesse is in me they confessed themselves to be sinners and so of sinners became Saints But to our purpose S. Paul writing unto Titus whom hee had made Bishop tells him that therefore he