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A14357 M. le Hucher minister of Amyens in France compelled to fly from the pure word of holy write; strucke dumme; and made to runne away Vppon the subiect of the B. Sacrament of the altar. By F. Francis Veron of the Society of Iesus, encountring him with the Bible of Geneua only. In the presence of the Duke de Longueuille. VVith a briefe and easie meanes, by which each Catholike may, in like manner, put to flight any minister or sectarie. Sent from Sieur de la Tour one of the sayd Dukes gentlemen, to Sieur de Rotois, gentleman of the Kings game.; Adrian Hucher ministre d'Amyens, mis à l'inquisition des passages de la Bible de Genève. English Véron, François, 1575-1649.; Catcher, Edward, 1584?-1624? 1616 (1616) STC 24675.5; ESTC S107356 29,473 96

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night for respite and to thinke vppon it but the Father denied him he alleaged he was suddainly surprised the other replied that he had had all the night and morning before for his proofe of that consequence It was not neede to take pitty of the Minister for his fellow Sectaries had sufficient cōmiseration of him all of them round about me beganne to change coulour the Elders and Superintendents stood as it were astonished cōfounded You may coniecture easily whether we were ioyfull thereat or no Alas said one the poore Minister wants a Chirurgian to open him a vayne This victory was more notorious by this which followeth The conquerour exacted of the vanquisshed to subscribe to the Acts of this conference according to the accord made between them A lamentable case that the ouercome must subscribe to the actes of his owne condemnation He refused to performe his promisse The Father after many instant vrgings of him in vaine turned towards my Lord and demaunded iustice that the Minister signe according as he had promised The Minister desired fauour beseeching him often that he would not cōmaund him to subscribe after many prayers adding these wordes I know how much it stands me vppon not to signe for if I do so all will be published and the Churches you vnderstand his meaning at least his lamenting voice discouered his intention the poore congregations he should say of the pure reformation will be scandalized therat The Father hauing before desired one of ours to shutt the doore least the Minister should runne away bid him consult with his Elders and Superintendents whether it were expedient to signe the actes or no for which cause drawing them apart it was resolued that he should not signe them I will send you shortly more at large this debate which lasted three quarters of an howre In fine with the consent of the Father they graunted him this fauour that he should not subscribe but with these two conditions the first that he should subscribe the morrow after the second that he should continew the dispute By this refusall to subscribe vnto the Actes it is apparent how notable the victorie was on our parte In the third encounter our Champion gott a third victory but in an other kind will you knowe what The Minister shamefully rann away He was not willing to be laid againe a gasping as before and therfore thought it better not to inter into the listes as I will declare afterward It was giuen out that the Superintendentes had expreslie forbidd him to venture himselfe with him who before had vsed him so vnmercifully for they well saw the confusion like to follow therof to the great detriment of their Churches Your Religious minde makes me presume you take great delight in this chace I will therfore giue you the whole narration But yett before hand I wil shew you a new māner of hunting which though you be most skilfull in that sport is perchance vnknowne vnto you The fashion is speedy with little paines and most effectuall by which practise our Huntsman hath so happily seazed on his pray and by the same I assure my self that euen we whose profession is to be better at our weapon then our penne may chace out of breath any Minister soeuer and make any Sectarie see how grosllie he is abused This I haue compiled as a thing I knowe to be true and wherof I meane to serue my self on all occasions In this Conference I haue had experience of this practise for therein was held no other methode to satisfy your desire who I knowe are curious to learne this new manner of hunting you may read this which followeth the like wherof was sent vnto the Minister as a letter of defiance Read it seriously To me it seemes most efficacious and as easy Wee shall all prooue hunters of these black beastes the Ministers I meane of the pretended Religion I would to God we could so chace away not their persons but their errours that we could purge all France thereof This I now send you laid downe at large you shall shortly haue the particulars of the conference aboue mentioned in which you will see it practised A BREEFE AND EASIE meanes by vvhich each one though ignorant of deuinity may by the sole Bible either of Geneua or any other shevv apperently to any Minister hovv farre he is deceaued and to each Caluinist hovv in all and euery point of the pretended reformation he is abused ENCOVNTRING a Minister or anie other Caluinist you shall proceed in this manner You haue in the 31. article of the Cōfession of your faith these words In our dayes in which the estate of the Church was dissolued God hath raised men after an extraordinary manner to repaire of new the Church which was ruinated and desolate Thus you say your Religion comes to reforme our errours In the 5. article are these words The word which is contayned in these bookes he spake of the bookes of Holy Scripture is the rule of all truth containing all that is necessary for the seruice of God and our saluation Neither is it lawfull for men no nor for Angells to adde diminish or change VVhence it followeth that neither Antiquitie nor Customes nor Multitude nor humane wisdome nor Definitions nor Inhibitions nor Proclamations nor Decrees nor Councels nor Reuelations nor Miracles may be opposed to the said holy Scriptures but on the contrarie all thinges ar to be examined ruled and reformed by them These are the wordes of this article So that in the one and the other article mētioned togeather you say that you or your Religion or your Ministers take your choise are raised and sent from God to illuminate vs with the light of truth to shew vs our errours and that by the sole and pure word of God contained in the holy Scripture 1. First I might examine the conditions of these Reformers you thrust vpon vs. And vntill you shew me your letter patents and commission I may iustly refuse to submitt my self to be reformed by you What body politicque will allow the title of Reformour of their Lawes and Customes according to which they haue hitherto proceeded in their gouernment in one who should say he was sent from the King for that purpose but had no Commission to shew for the same Notwithstanding in curtesy I do freely admitt you to the dignity and title of a Reformer am content to be instructed by you in the truth and to be reformed in whatsoeuer I do erre I would know of you 2. According to what rules by what line doth it please you to straighten me to shew my errours and illuminate me with the truth of the Gospell You make me answeare in the 5. article aboue cited that you will do all this according to the pure word of God sett downe in Holie writt laying aside All Antiquity Customes Multitude humane VVisdome Definitions Inhibitions Proclamations Lawes Councels Reuelations Miracles I could