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The Catholicks defence for their adoration of the body and blood of our Lord as believed really and substantially present in the Holy Sacrament of the Eucharist.
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R. H., 1609-1678.
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Wing W3439; ESTC R16193
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presence_n of_o christ_n body_n to_o be_v in_o with_o or_o under_o the_o element_n immediate_o upon_o and_o by_o the_o consecration_n of_o they_o which_o consecration_n also_o he_o place_v l._n 3.4_o c._n p._n 24._o in_o the_o blessing_n of_o the_o element_n before_o the_o break_n etc._n etc._n mention_v before_o before_o 7._o look_v back_o now_o upon_o all_o these_o plea_n of_o catholic_n and_o see_v if_o they_o will_v not_o make_v up_o at_o least_o a_o reasonable_a ground_n or_o motive_n of_o their_o adoration_n a_o reasonable_a ground_n i_o say_v not_o here_o what_o i_o may_v sufficient_v to_o secure_v their_o faith_n from_o all_o suspicion_n of_o error_n but_o which_o serve_v my_o purpose_n to_o secure_v they_o from_o idolatry_n in_o their_o adoration_n though_o they_o shall_v be_v mistake_v when_o as_o other_o person_n because_o proceed_v on_o like_o reasonable_a motive_n be_v by_o protestant_n in_o their_o adoration_n of_o a_o mistake_a presence_n or_o object_n excuse_v from_o it_o see_v before_o before_o 8._o as_o for_o example_n the_o lutheran_n the_o adorer_n of_o one_o much_o resemble_v our_o lord_n here_o on_o earth_n the_o adorer_n of_o a_o unconsecrated_a host_n or_o wafer_n place_v on_o the_o altar_n etc._n etc._n especial_o when_o catholic_n in_o credit_v such_o divine_a revelation_n of_o christ_n presence_n and_o so_o for_o their_o adoration_n receive_v no_o contradiction_n as_o it_o be_v pretend_v they_o do_v from_o their_o sense_n because_o they_o adore_v i_o mean_v with_o divine_a adoration_n nothing_o visible_a or_o sensible_a at_o all_o nor_o any_o substance_n invisible_a wherein_o any_o thing_n that_o occur_v to_o their_o sense_n inhere_n but_o only_o understand_v christ_n body_n present_v thou_o where_o their_o sense_n can_v no_o way_n certain_o and_o against_o any_o pretend_a divine_a revelation_n inform_v they_o either_o when_o it_o be_v present_a or_o not_o since_o salvis_fw-la omnibus_fw-la phaenomenis_fw-la all_o appearance_n grant_v most_o true_a such_o a_o presence_n be_v possible_a sect_n 29_o these_o rational_a ground_n of_o catholic_n for_o adoration_n which_o we_o expect_v shall_v have_v be_v most_o strict_o examine_v by_o those_o who_o conclude_v the_o roman_a practice_n herein_o idolatry_n be_v slight_o pass_v over_o by_o daille_n in_o pronounce_v that_o this_o error_n of_o catholic_n vient_fw-fr toute_fw-fr entiere_fw-fr de_fw-fr leur_fw-fr passion_n apolog._n des_fw-fr eglis_n reform_v c._n 11._o p._n 90._o and_o after_o in_o reduce_v all_o their_o ground_n thereof_o to_o a_o la_fw-fr seule_fw-fr authorite_n du_fw-fr pape_n &_o the_o son_n concile_v and_o by_o dr._n taylor_n real_a pres_n pres_n 13._o p._n 346._o in_o call_v they_o some_o trifle_a pretence_n make_v out_o of_o some_o say_n of_o the_o father_n elsewhere_o indeed_o when_o he_o be_v in_o a_o more_o charitable_a temper_n liberty_n of_o prophe_n p._n 258._o he_o say_v that_o for_o a_o motive_n to_o such_o a_o opinion_n roman_a catholic_n have_v a_o divine_a revelation_n who_o literal_a and_o grammatical_a sense_n if_o that_o sense_n be_v intend_v will_v warrant_v they_o to_o do_v violence_n to_o all_o the_o science_n in_o the_o circle_n but_o prudent_o there_o omit_v their_o plea_n of_o catholic_n tradition_n secure_v to_o they_o such_o a_o literal_a sense_n of_o the_o text._n dr._n stillingfleet_n rom._n idol_n c._n 2._o 2._o 7._o say_v first_o that_o if_o a_o mistake_n in_o this_o case_n will_v excuse_v the_o romanist_n it_o will_v excuse_v the_o gross_a idolatry_n in_o the_o world._n and_o in_o compare_v two_o person_n one_o worship_v christ_n as_o real_o present_a in_o the_o sun_n another_o christ_n as_o real_o present_a in_o the_o sacrament_n he_o say_v as_o inconsiderate_o as_o magisterial_o that_o suppose_v a_o mistake_n in_o both_o we_o be_v not_o to_o inquire_v into_o the_o reason_n of_o the_o mistake_n i._n e._n as_o he_o say_v before_o concern_v the_o probability_n of_o the_o one_o mistake_v more_o than_o of_o the_o other_o but_o the_o influence_n it_o have_v upon_o our_o action_n so_o he_o but_o what_o be_v more_o manifest_a than_o that_o the_o influence_n which_o a_o mistake_n have_v upon_o our_o action_n as_o to_o make_v they_o culpable_a or_o innocent_a be_v not_o always_o the_o same_o but_o very_o various_a and_o often_o contrary_a render_v they_o sometime_o blameless_a sometime_o faulty_a according_a as_o the_o mistake_n be_v exor_a in_o exusable_a next_o he_o grant_v ibid._n ibid._n 5._o a_o catholic_n tradition_n of_o transubstantiation_n to_o be_v a_o sufficient_a ground_n for_o adoration_n but_o the_o catholic_n tradition_n that_o be_v plead_v here_o necessary_a for_o adoration_n be_v only_o that_o of_o a_o corporal_a presence_n now_o for_o a_o sufficient_a evidence_n of_o such_o a_o tradition_n i_o refer_v the_o conscientious_a reader_n to_o what_o have_v be_v say_v before_o wave_v that_o of_o transubstantiation_n as_o to_o this_o controversy_n though_o the_o same_o catholic_n tradition_n authorize_v both_o namely_o a_o corporal_a presence_n by_o a_o mutation_n of_o the_o element_n into_o our_o lord_n body_n this_o from_o from_o 24._o of_o the_o rational_a ground_n catholic_n have_v for_o their_o adoration_n sect_n 30_o 8_o lie_n for_o such_o rational_a ground_n thereofre_v of_o their_o worship_n as_o be_v here_o give_v and_o not_o from_o any_o excess_n of_o charity_n or_o from_o the_o singular_a fancy_n of_o some_o few_o though_o learned_a man_n as_o dr._n stillingfleet_n in_o his_o preface_n to_o roman_a idolatry_n will_v insinuate_v idolatry_n be_v by_o many_o protestant_n of_o late_a either_o not_o at_o all_o or_o but_o faint_o charge_v on_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n for_o first_o see_v mr._n thorndike_n in_o his_o epilogue_n 3._o l._n 30._o c._n p._n 350._o i_o say_v first_o say_v he_o that_o the_o adoration_n of_o the_o eucharist_n which_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n prescribe_v be_v not_o necessary_o idolatry_n i_o say_v not_o what_o it_o may_v be_v accidental_o by_o that_o intention_n which_o some_o man_n may_v conceal_v and_o may_v make_v it_o idolatry_n as_o to_o god_n but_o i_o speak_v upon_o supposition_n of_o that_o intention_n which_o the_o profession_n of_o the_o church_n form_v and_o in_o his_o just_a weight_n c._n 19_o p._n 125._o they_o who_o give_v the_o honour_n proper_a to_o god_n to_o his_o creature_n be_v idolater_n they_o that_o worship_v the_o host_n give_v the_o honour_n due_a to_o god_n to_o his_o creature_n this_o be_v take_v for_o a_o demonstration_n that_o the_o worship_n of_o the_o host_n be_v idolatry_n but_o will_v any_o papist_n acknowledge_v that_o he_o honour_v the_o element_n of_o the_o eucharist_n or_o as_o he_o think_v the_o accident_n of_o they_o for_o god_n will_v common_a reason_n charge_v he_o to_o honour_n that_o which_o he_o believe_v not_o to_o be_v there_o if_o they_o be_v there_o they_o will_v not_o take_v they_o for_o god_n and_o therefore_o they_o will_v not_o honour_v they_o for_o god_n and_o that_o be_v it_o not_o say_v that_o they_o shall_v be_v idolater_n if_o the_o element_n do_v remain_v that_o must_v make_v they_o idolater_n and_o epilogue_n p._n 357._o in_o general_a he_o say_v whoso_o admit_v idolatry_n i._n e._n in_o any_o point_n whatever_o to_o be_v teach_v by_o the_o roman_a church_n can_v by_o no_o mean_n grant_v it_o to_o be_v a_o church_n the_o very_a be_v whereof_o suppose_v the_o worship_n of_o one_o god_n exclusive_a to_o any_o thing_n else_o the_o roman_a church_n then_o must_v either_o be_v free_v from_o the_o imputation_n of_o command_v any_o thing_n that_o be_v idolatry_n i._n e._n adoration_n of_o a_o creature_n for_o god_n or_o we_o must_v affirm_v there_o to_o be_v and_o to_o have_v be_v no_o true_a church_n of_o christ_n never_o since_o such_o command_n of_o that_o which_o they_o say_v be_v idolatry_n go_v forth_o which_o no_o judicious_a protestant_n i_o think_v have_v or_o dare_v say_v of_o the_o roman_a church_n since_o the_o begin_n of_o the_o adoration_n of_o the_o eucharist_n for_o what_o church_n or_o sect_n of_o religion_n can_v be_v apostate_n at_o all_o if_o not_o a_o church_n commit_v and_o command_a idolatry_n even_o the_o worship_v of_o a_o piece_n of_o bread_n which_o themselves_o make_v for_o that_o god_n which_o make_v they_o and_o heaven_n and_o earth_n and_o thus_o bishop_n forbes_n de_fw-fr euchar._n l._n 2._o c._n 2._o perperam_fw-la 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d romanensibus_fw-la a_o plerisque_fw-la protestantibus_fw-la objicitur_fw-la &_o illi_fw-la idololatriae_fw-la crassissimae_fw-la &_o gravissimae_fw-la ab_fw-la his_fw-la insimulantur_fw-la &_o damnantur_fw-la cum_fw-la plerique_fw-la romanenses_n ut_fw-la &_o alii_fw-la fideles_fw-la credant_fw-la panem_fw-la consecratum_fw-la non_fw-la esse_fw-la amplius_fw-la panem_fw-la sed_fw-la corpus_fw-la christi_fw-la unde_fw-la illi_fw-la non_fw-la panem_fw-la adorant_fw-la sed_fw-la tantum_fw-la ex_fw-la suppositione_n licet_fw-la falsa_fw-la non_fw-la tamen_fw-la haeretica_fw-la aut_fw-la impia_fw-la vel_fw-la cum_fw-la
eucharistia_n prolata_fw-la sunt_fw-la et_fw-la quae_fw-la nisi_fw-la dextre_fw-la capiantur_fw-la incautos_fw-la homines_fw-la facile_fw-la in_o errores_fw-la abducent_a and_o below_o sanctissimi_fw-la patres_fw-la quo_fw-la haec_fw-la auditorum_fw-la animus_fw-la vehementius_fw-la &_o efficacius_fw-la imprimerent_fw-la de_fw-la typis_fw-la tanquam_fw-la si_fw-la essent_fw-la ipsa_fw-la antitypa_n oratorum_fw-la more_fw-it multa_fw-la enunciant_fw-la and_o again_o p._n 117._o si_fw-mi verba_fw-la i._n e._n of_o some_o of_o the_o father_n nimis_fw-la rigid_a urgeantur_fw-la absque_fw-la intellectu_fw-la sacramentali_fw-la nihil_fw-la aliud_fw-la ex_fw-la iis_fw-la colligi_fw-la potest_fw-la quam_fw-la panem_fw-la &_o vinum_fw-la proprie_fw-la &_o realiter_fw-la ipsum_fw-la christi_fw-la corpus_fw-la &_o sanguinem_fw-la esse_fw-la quod_fw-la ne_fw-la ipsi_fw-la quidem_fw-la transubstantiatores_fw-la admittunt_fw-la where_o he_o grant_v the_o expression_n of_o some_o of_o the_o father_n so_o high_a as_o to_o transcend_v the_o assertion_n of_o catholic_n or_o transubstantiator_n who_o assertion_n again_o transcend_v those_o of_o protestant_n in_o this_o mystery_n it_o seem_v not_o reasonable_a that_o he_o shall_v after_o this_o depress_v and_o extenuate_v their_o meaning_n to_o countenance_n and_o comply_v rather_o with_o that_o opinion_n that_o be_v far_a distant_a from_o their_o expression_n neither_o will_v the_o same_o father_n calling_n in_o other_o place_n the_o element_n symbol_n and_o sign_n of_o christ_n body_n as_o he_o plead_v p._n 116._o afford_v he_o that_o relief_n he_o seek_v for_o from_o it_o for_o since_o the_o catholic_n as_o well_o as_o protestant_n do_v firm_o maintain_v and_o profess_v a_o external_a symbol_n as_o well_o as_o the_o thing_n signify_v in_o the_o eucharist_n viz._n all_o that_o be_v perceive_v by_o our_o sense_n and_o that_o be_v visible_a gustable_a or_o tangible_a of_o the_o element_n as_o the_o protestant_n contend_v this_o symbol_n to_o be_v not_o only_o these_o but_o the_o very_a substance_n and_o nature_n of_o the_o element_n also_o here_o it_o will_v be_v find_v that_o these_o sentence_n of_o the_o father_n do_v suffer_v much_o less_o force_n and_o torture_n if_o understand_v according_a to_o the_o symbol_n suppose_v by_o catholic_n than_o that_o by_o protestant_n for_o example_n the_o bishop_n 12â—_n bishop_n p._n 12â—_n have_v mention_v that_o passage_n of_o the_o ancient_a author_n de_fw-fr coena_fw-la domini_fw-la in_o s._n cyprian_n work_n the_o word_n be_v these_o panis_n iste_fw-la quem_fw-la dominus_fw-la discipulis_fw-la porrigebat_fw-la non_fw-la effigy_n sed_fw-la natura_fw-la mutatus_fw-la omnipotentia_fw-la verbi_fw-la factus_fw-la est_fw-la caro_fw-la &_o sicut_fw-la in_o persona_fw-la christi_fw-la humanitas_fw-la apparebat_fw-la &_o latebat_fw-la divinitas_fw-la ita_fw-la sacramento_n visibili_fw-la ineffabiliter_fw-la divina_fw-la se_fw-la effudit_fw-la essentia_fw-la here_o i_o say_v if_o the_o sacramentum_fw-la visibile_fw-la and_o the_o external_a symbol_n be_v take_v in_o this_o bishop_n way_n for_o substantia_fw-la or_o natura_fw-la panis_fw-la all_o be_v extreme_o force_v and_o confound_v and_o so_o he_o be_v drive_v to_o expound_v it_o that_o by_o mutatio_fw-la naturae_fw-la panis_fw-la be_v mean_v only_o mutatio_fw-la usus_fw-la 120._o usus_fw-la p._n 120._o the_o change_n of_o which_o use_n of_o the_o bread_n also_o seem_v no_o object_n of_o god_n omnipotence_n but_o the_o symbol_n or_o sacrament_n be_v take_v for_o such_o as_o the_o catholic_n make_v it_o viz._n for_o the_o external_a effigy_n or_o sensible_fw-fr of_o the_o bread_n all_o be_v good_a sense_n and_o coherent_a and_o nothing_o strain_v and_o the_o omnipotentia_fw-la verbi_fw-la right_o apply_v to_o the_o mutatio_fw-la naturae_fw-la panis_fw-la as_o god_n omnipotency_n may_v be_v observe_v in_o the_o father_n to_o be_v frequent_o urge_v not_o only_o in_o relation_n to_o the_o presence_n of_o our_o lord_n body_n and_o blood_n there_o but_o also_o to_o the_o transmutation_n of_o the_o element_n there_o whilst_o the_o exterior_n of_o they_o still_o remain_v but_o now_o in_o the_o last_o place_n suppose_v the_o natura_fw-la panis_fw-la to_o remain_v which_o the_o father_n say_v be_v change_v yet_o so_o long_o as_o these_o divine_n maintain_v according_a to_o the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o father_n a_o substantial_a presence_n of_o our_o lord_n body_n in_o the_o eucharist_n and_o that_o with_o the_o symbol_n as_o he_o say_v p._n 45._o sacramento_n svo_fw-la quasi_fw-la contectum_fw-la though_o they_o will_v not_o admit_v such_o a_o symbol_n as_o the_o catholic_n and_o a_o transubstantiation_n of_o the_o element_n yet_o they_o must_v if_o comply_v with_o the_o father_n at_o least_o confess_v some_o kind_n of_o consubstantiation_n or_o conjunction_n of_o the_o substance_n of_o christ_n body_n and_o of_o the_o element_n in_o the_o eucharist_n to_o which_o opinion_n the_o say_n of_o the_o 0139_o 0979_o five_o father_n constrain_v luther_n as_o he_o often_o profess_v mean_a while_n if_o it_o be_v ask_v why_o such_o a_o consubstantiation_n be_v decline_v by_o catholic_n their_o answer_n be_v ready_a viz._n because_o the_o great_a council_n that_o have_v be_v hold_v successive_o in_o the_o church-catholick_n upon_o and_o since_o the_o agitation_n of_o this_o controversy_n have_v frequent_o and_o constant_o state_v and_o deliver_v that_o the_o scripture_n as_o understand_v and_o expound_v by_o the_o father_n and_o church-tradition_n declare_v a_o transubstantiation_n in_o the_o judgement_n of_o which_o council_n catholic_n hold_v it_o their_o duty_n to_o acquiesce_v this_o of_o a_o substantial_a presence_n assert_v by_o protestant_n 2._o next_o 1._o next_o 6._o n._n 1._o for_o adoration_n too_o of_o this_o body_n as_o there_o present_a either_o with_o the_o symbol_n upon_o their_o consecration_n or_o at_o least_o to_o all_o worthy_a receiver_n see_v the_o same_o bishop_n andrews_n ib._n c._n 8._o p._n 195_o where_o to_o what_o bellarmin_n have_v say_v inter_fw-la novitia_fw-la &_o nupera_fw-la dogmata_fw-la ponit_fw-la adorationem_fw-la sacramenti_fw-la eucharistae_fw-la i._n e._n adorationem_fw-la christi_fw-la domini_fw-la in_o sacramento_n miro_o sed_fw-la vero_fw-la modo_fw-la praesentis_fw-la he_o answer_v thus_o sacramenti_fw-la ait_fw-la id_fw-la est_fw-la christi_fw-la domini_fw-la in_o sacramento_n rex_fw-la autem_fw-la christum_fw-la in_o eucharistia_n veer_fw-la praesentem_fw-la veer_fw-la &_o adorandum_fw-la statuit_fw-la rem_fw-la scil_n sacramenti_fw-la at_o non_fw-la sacramentum_fw-la and_o nos_fw-la vero_fw-la &_o in_fw-la mysteriis_fw-la carnem_fw-la christi_fw-la adoramus_fw-la cum_fw-la ambrosio_n &_o non_fw-la id_fw-la i._n e._n sacramentum_fw-la sed_fw-la eum_fw-la qui_fw-la super_fw-la altar_n colitur_fw-la i._n e._n christum_fw-la rem_fw-la sacramenti_fw-la and_o be_v not_o this_o res_fw-la sacramenti_fw-la worship_v as_o upon_o the_o altar_n too_o with_o the_o symbol_n there_o since_o he_o bishop_n bramhal_o to_o the_o bishop_n of_o chalcedon_n 57_o chalcedon_n rep._n to_o chalced._n 2._o c._n p._n 57_o ask_v how_o the_o protestant_n can_v profess_v to_o agree_v in_o all_o essential_o of_o religion_n with_o the_o roman_a church_n which_o they_o hold_v to_o be_v a_o idolatrous_a church_n i._n e._n in_o worship_v the_o sacrament_n as_o their_o god_n thus_o reply_n the_o sacrament_n be_v to_o be_v adore_v say_v the_o council_n of_o trent_n the_o sacrament_n i._n e._n formal_o the_o body_n and_o blood_n of_o christ_n say_v some_o of_o your_o author_n where_n he_o quote_v bellarmin_n de_fw-fr sacramento_n 4._o l._n 29._o c._n we_o say_v the_o same_o so_o cardinal_n bellarmin_n and_o bishop_n bramhal_o be_v agree_v about_o this_o adoration_n of_o our_o lord_n in_o the_o eucharist_n the_o sacrament_n i._n e._n the_o species_n of_o bread_n and_o wine_n say_v other_o that_o we_o deny_v and_o esteem_v it_o to_o be_v idolatrous_a shall_v we_o charge_v the_o whole_a church_n with_o idolatry_n for_o the_o error_n of_o a_o party_n the_o same_o concession_n with_o the_o same_o distinction_n make_v the_o french-protestant_n divine_a daille_n 2._o daille_n 6._o n._n 0139_o 0979_o five_o 3_o 2._o in_o his_o second_o reply_n to_o chaumont_n p._n 29._o there_o be_v a_o vast_a difference_n between_o to_o adore_v the_o sacrament_n and_o 013_o to_o adore_v jesus_n christ_n in_o the_o sacrament_n or_o in_o the_o mystery_n the_o late_a of_o these_o we_o free_o do_v since_o we_o believe_v he_o god_n bless_v for_o ever_o together_o with_o the_o father_n and_o afterward_o in_o answer_n to_o the_o father_n they_o speak_v say_v he_o of_o the_o flesh_n of_o jesus_n christ_n in_o the_o mystery_n of_o which_o we_o do_v not_o contest_v the_o adoration_n and_o not_o of_o the_o eucharist_n and_o again_o they_o only_o adore_v jesus_n christ_n in_o the_o sacrament_n which_o be_v the_o thing_n we_o agree_v to_o and_o in_o his_o apology_n ch_n p_o he_o say_v concern_v the_o body_n of_o christ_n if_o in_o the_o sacrament_n that_o it_o be_v evident_a that_o one_o may_v and_o that_o one_o ought_v to_o worship_v it_o see_v that_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n be_v a_o subject_a adoreable_a and_o chap._n 10._o he_o grant_v upon_o adorate_fw-la scabellum_fw-la thatthe_o faithful_a cast_v down_o themselves_o before_o