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A29201 A replication to the Bishop of Chalcedon his Survey of the Vindication of the Church of England from criminous schism clearing the English laws from the aspertion of cruelty : with an appendix in answer to the exceptions of S.W. / by the Right Reverend John Bramhall ... Bramhall, John, 1594-1663. 1656 (1656) Wing B4228; ESTC R8982 229,419 463

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absurdity_n si_fw-mi mihi_fw-la diceres_fw-la quod_fw-la ego_fw-la sim_fw-la petilianus_n non_fw-la invenirem_fw-la quomodo_fw-la te_fw-la refellerem_fw-la nisi_fw-la aut_fw-la jocantem_fw-la riderem_fw-la aut_fw-la insanientem_fw-la dolerem_fw-la sed_fw-la quia_fw-la jocari_fw-la te_fw-la non_fw-la credo_fw-la vides_fw-la quid_fw-la restet_fw-la ibid._n if_o thou_o shall_v tell_v i_o that_o i_o be_o petilian_n or_o any_o such_o thing_n that_o be_v evident_o fall_v i_o shall_v not_o know_v how_o to_o confute_v thou_o unless_o i_o shall_v either_o laugh_v at_o thy_o folly_n or_o pity_v thy_o frenzy_n but_o because_o i_o believe_v not_o that_o thou_o jeaste_v thou_o see_v what_o remain_v when_o they_o tell_v we_o in_o such_o earnest_n that_o the_o roman_a church_n be_v the_o catholic_a church_n they_o may_v even_o as_o well_o tell_v we_o that_o petilian_n be_v saint_n austin_n 2._o their_o first_o objection_n be_v that_o we_o have_v separate_v ourselves_o from_o the_o communion_n of_o 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