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A14184	A demonstration of the trueth of that discipline which Christe hath prescribed in his worde for the gouernment of his Church, in all times and places, vntill the ende of the worlde Wherein are gathered into a plaine forme of reasoning, the proofes thereof; out of the scriptures, the euidence of it by the light of reason rightly ruled, and the testimonies that haue beene giuen therevnto, by the course of the churche certaine hundredths of yeares after the Apostles time; and the generall consent of the Churches rightly reformed in these latter times: according as they are alleaged and maintained, in those seuerall bookes that haue bin written concerning the same.	Udall, John, 1560?-1592.	1588 (1588)	STC 24499; ESTC S103026	63,031	134

to lust the sooner 18 It was ordayned that none eyther B. or Elder should go from citie to citie Therefore if a minister haue the charge of a flocke committed vnto him to the end to feed it if God place men to the end to haue them there imploied if flocks in daunger haue need of continuall watche if the ministers dutie to his flocke requireth all that trauayle that he can performe if he cannot be fruitfully profitable vnto them without continuall residence if his residence be as strictly required as theirs vnder the law if he cannot be a patterne vnto them without he be resident if they cannot follow him nor know him if he be absent if he cannot be alwayes readie to feed his flock vnlesse he bee there if hee cannot take heede to them feede them and watche ouer them without his presence if Satan be the authour of nonresidencie if his absence abridge Gods loue to them and comfort from himselfe if absence be an hinderance to the louing familiaritie that shoulde be betwixt him and them if they haue interest in him and continuall neede of him if he may no more bee absent then the priests dwell from the Temple if the Councel of Nice did vpon good grounds forbid it if absence be like to the practize of an harlot if it be not lawfull to go from place to place then is nonresidence vnlawfull the practize therof contrary to the word of God The bellie for which nonresidencie is defended and practized hath no eares therefore it is that they heare not the euident sounds yet haue they very little to saye for it so grosse is the error thereof so much as hath any shewe of reason is here set downe and answered 1 Obiection Two parrishes may bee vnited why then may not one haue charge of them both before when they be two Ansvvere Because one shepheard may keep one flocke though it bee great but hee cannot keepe two being verye little and going in diuers pastures againe one man may haue so many flockes as he can lead in and out euerye Sabboth to the exercises of religion which is verye plaine that he cannot doe to more then one congregation 2 Obiection Parishes were deuided by men as especially by Denis the Monk Pope of Rome Ansvvere That is vntrue for the Apostles deuided the Church into congregations and placed elders ouer euery one of them as the whol course of the Acts and Epistles of the Apostles prooueth and VVhitgift confesseth page 250. Therefore these mistes notwithstanding non-residencie must needes be vnlawfull and certainely those that haue any sparkle of conscience feare of God or loue to their flockes will neuer defend it much lesse enter into the practize of it CHAP. 4. IT belongeth to the Church to make choise of those officers which Christ would haue placed in the same T. C. 2. booke 1. part page 193. Ecclesiast Discip. fol. 40. VVhitgift confesseth it page 164. They deny this as their denying of al the arguments that bee brought for it doth prooue VVhitgift page 154. 166. c. and their practize of allowing patrons and also being such themselues doth euidently declare If the former bee prooued true then the latter must returne to Antichriste which is thus declared 1 That which was the continuall and constant practize of the Church in the time of the Apostles that same is to be followed for euer which appeareth by this that the ordinaunces giuen from God by Paule 1. Tim. 6. 14. are enioyned to be kept vntill Christ come to iudgement But it was the constant and the continuall practize of the Churches them to haue a stroke in the choyse of their owne ecclesiastical officers Act. 1. and 6. where the Apostles presented two to the peoples liking wherof God was to be prayed vnto to make one an Apostle Act 6. 3. where the Church is willed to choose their Deacons and Act. 14. 25. where they gaue their consent in the choosing of their elders by the stretching forth of their handes Therefore it belongeth to the Church to choose their owne Church officers 2 If the people had an interest in the liking of their teaching Leuites which were of the tribe of Aaron then much more must the people now for there was greater likelihood that they were sent of God then any of the commō sort of men But the former is true as appereth by the manner of the setting of them a side vnto that office in the lawe Therefore must the latter needs be true also 3 That which pertayneth vnto all ought to be approoued of all the congregation But euery ministery in the Church pertayneth to all the congregation Therefore authority to approoue of them pertayneth to all the congregation 4 That election which is most effectuall to bring the people to obedience is of all other the best and to abridge it is vnlawfull But election by common consent is most effectuall to bring the people to obedience when they shall see him teache or rule whom they themselues haue chosen Therefore election by the Church is the best and all other kindes of elections vnlawfull 5 That election which procureth greatest reuerence of the people to their teachers and rulers is meetest and all others vnlawfull But for the people to cōsent in the election of their gouernours procureth greatest reuerence in their hearts towards them Therefore election by the people is the best and all others bee vnlawfull Testimonies of the ancient vvriters 6 The minister should be chosen the people being present in the eyes of all and should be by the common iudgement and testimonie approoued worthy and fit c. Therefore this is the lawfull vocation by the worde of God where those which are chosen be appoynted by the consent and approbation of the people For which also he bringeth diuers authorities out of the Scriptures 7. That is truely and certainly a diuine election of a Byshop which is made by the whole Church 8 Let the people haue authority to choose their Clarkes and ministers 9 They runne speaking of the life of the Clarkes to Byshops suffragans certaine times of the yeare and bringing some sum of money they are anoynted and ordayned being chosen of none and afterward the Byshop without any lawfull election is chosen in huggermuger of the canons or prebendaries onely without the knowledge of the people 10 In the Oration of the death of his Father approoueth the election by the people at large and confuteth them that would hinder it 11 When he appoynted Eradius to succeed him sayth it was the approoued right and custome that the whole Churche shoulde eyther choose or consent vnto their Bishop 12 Anthimius choosing a Bishopp without the peoples consent filled all Armenia with sedition 13 Why did Peter communicate the election with the disciples lest the matter should haue turned to a braule and haue fallen to

the Church can not without great offence suffer him that hath committed an open sinne though he repent or that is vehemently suspected of a notorious sinne continue in the execution of his office vntil the congregation be satisfied Lastly if the priest that was vncleane or suspected of leprosie might not offer sacrifices then is it plaine that both the separation of some men from the Lords supper and other from the execution of their publik function for a time is a thing warranted by the word of God The latter part which is that this kind of suspention hath a profitable vse in the church of God is thus prooued 1 That whiche keepeth the godly in more carefull obedience and keepeth in the hypocrites that they breake not out is very profitable for the Church of God But such is the vse of the separation from the Lordes supper and from executing publike function in the church Therefore it is profitable in the church of God 2 That which remooueth euen the appearance of offence from the Churche of God is very profitable for the same But such is the separation Therefore it is profitable for the Church of God 3 That which declareth vnto the world that the Church of God is carefull to practize that which it professeth is very profitable But such is this separation for it sheweth that they cannot away with vngodly life no not among thēselues Therefore it is profitable for the church of God 4 That which giueth occasion to the church to be exercised in the actions of religion with more sound comfort is profitable for the same ●ut such is this separation for euery one shall see thereby the vnworthy for whose sakes God might be angrie with them all Iosh. 7. 11. weeded from among them Therefore it is profitable for the Church of God 5 That whiche is a speciall meanes to procure the Lord in mercie to continue his word vnto his Church is profitable for the same such is this seperation for it is a notable meanes to keepe men in obedience to that which they professe Therfore it is profitable for the churh of God Therefore if separation of the knowne or suspected sinner from the Lords supper such a church officer from the execution of his publike function doe keepe men in obedience that be godly and restrayneth hypocrites from outrage if it remooue the very appearance of euil if it let the world see that the Churche laboureth to practize that which it doth professe if it make euerye member of the Churche to be exercized in the actions of religion with greater comfort lastly if it be a special mean to procure the Lord in mercie to continue his word then must it needs follow that it is of very profitable vse vnto the Church of God CHAP. 19. WHen neyther admonition nor suspention will serue to reclaym the offender but that it doth appeare that he abydeth in impenitencie and is incorrigible the Eldership after mature deliberation and commending of the party vnto the prayers of the Churche hee yet remaining obstinate is to proceed to excommunication which containeth these propositions in question betwixt vs and the BB. 1 It may not be done but vpon great and vvayghtie occasion 2 It may not be done by any one man but by the Eldership the vvhole Church consenting therevnto The former is holden by vs T. C. 1. book pag 183. Discipl Eccles. 130. and denied by them in their practize that send it out many times for not paying of sixe pence But our assertion is thus prooued and their godlesse practize disprooued 1 That which Christ hath ordayned for the last remedie against sinne and onely to be vsed when neyther admonition reprehension nor separation from the externall communion of the saynts for a time will serue that same is not to be vsed but vpon great extremitie But such is excommunication as appeareth Math. 18. 15. Therefore it may not be vsed but vppon most wayghtie occasion that is in the case onely of extremitie when no other meanes will serue the turne 2 That whiche cutteth a man of from the Church of God and giueth him ouer vnto Satan as one in a desperate case that same may not be vsed but in greatest extremitie But such is excommunication being vsed according as God hath left it vnto his Churche 1. Cor. 5. 5. Therefore it may not bee vsed but in greatest extremitie 3 That which a man will doe in the cutting off of his hand or his foote that same must the Church doe in excommunication for it is the cutting off of a member But a man will trie all other wayes and will neuer cut of his hande or his foote vntill he see it incurable and ready to infect the other parts of his bodie Therefore excommunication may not be vsed but in case of greatest extremitie 4 That which is contrary to naturall affection and worketh that whiche a louing heart doth tremble to thinke of that same may not be done but in greatest extremitie But such is the excommunication for it depriueth the party excommunicated of our loue and throweth him into the most wretched case that can befall vnto man in this life Therefore it may not be done but in cases of greatest extremity Therefore if excommunication be ordained of Christe as a remedie onely when all other helpes will not serue if it cut the partie from Gods Churche and giue him ouer vnto Satan if it must be proceeded vnto as a man doth to the cutting off of his hand or foote lastly if it be a worke contrary vnto the naturall affection of man effecteth that which a louing hart doth tremble to think vpon then must it needs follow that it is to be proceeded vnto only in the cases of greatest extremitie after that all other meanes haue bene vsed and do appeare not to preuaile The latter poynt which is that excommunication may not be done by one man but by the Eldership the whole Church consenting therevnto is holden by vs T. C. booke 1. page 183. Discipl Ecclesiast 130. c. and denyed by them VVhitgift page 662. and their continuall practise But our assertion is thus proued and their opinion and practize founde to be ●rroneous and vngodly 1 That which Christ commanded to be done by the Church may not be done by one man vnles you take my L. Grace for the Churche as VVhitgifte doth page 662. which needeth no confutation But Christe commanded that excommunication should be done by the church Matth. 18. 15. Therefore it may not be done by one man 2 That which Paule enioyned the Churche when they were met together to doe may not be done by one man But he commanded them to excommunicate the incestuous person whē they were met together 1. Cor. 5. 5. Therefore it may not be done by one man 3 That which hath need of greatest aduice and greatest authority may not be done by one man But