Selected quad for the lemma: religion_n

Word A Word B Word C Word D Occurrence Frequency Band MI MI Band Prominent
religion_n church_n pope_n rome_n 5,434 5 6.6788 4 true
View all documents for the selected quad

Text snippets containing the quad

ID Title Author Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication) STC Words Pages
A06635 Via tuta the safe vvay. Leading all Christians, by the testimonies, and confessions of our best learned aduersaries, to the true, ancient, and catholique faith, now professed in the Church of England. By Humfrey Lynde Knight. Lynde, Humphrey, Sir. 1628 (1628) STC 17097; ESTC S109009 96,512 358

There are 15 snippets containing the selected quad. | View lemmatised text

Christ and the rites receiued in the solemne administration of them all I do embrace 4. I admit and receiue all those points touching originall sinne and Iustification which are defined and declared by the Councell of Trent 5. I professe that there is a true proper and propitiatorie sacrifice offered to God in the Masse both for the quicke and the dead and that in the Eucharist the Bread and the Wine are Transubstantiated into the bodie and bloud of Christ 6. I acknowledge that vnder one kind whole and perfect Christ and the true Sacrament is receiued 7. I doe constantly hold that there is Purgatorie and that the soules there detained are helped by the Prayers of the faithfull 8. I hold that the Saints are to bee worshipped and called vpon and that they offer prayers for vs vnto God and that their relickes are to be worshipped 9. I doe resolutely affirme that the Images of Christ and of the Virgin Marie and also of other Saints are to be had and retained and that due honor and veneration is to bee yeelded to them 10. I do hold that the power of Indulgences was left by Christ in the Church and that the vse of them is most wholsome to Christian people 11. I acknowledge the holy Catholike and Apostolicke Romane Church to be the Mother and Mistrisse of all Churches and I promise and sweare true obedience to the Bishop of Rome the successor of Saint Peter the Prince of the Apostles and the Vicar of Iesus Christ 12. I vndoubtedly receiue and professe all other things deliuered defined and declared by the holy Canons and Oecumenicall Councels especially by the holy Synod of Trent c. The ten Commandements 1. I Am thy Lord God The Christiā doctrine cōposed by the Reuerēd Father Iames Ledesma Priest of the societie of Iesus and printed permessu Superiorum An. 1609. 1624. Thou shalt haue no other Gods but me 2. Thou shalt not take the name of God in vaine 3. Remember to sanctifie the holy-dayes 4. Honour thy father and mother 5. Thou shalt not kill 6. Thou shalt not commit adulterie 7. Thou shalt not steale 8. Thou shalt not beare false witnesse 9. Thou shalt not desire thy neighbours wife 10. Thou shalt not desire thy neighbours goods The Contents Sect. 1. THe causelesse bitternesse of the Church of Rome against the Reformed Churches pag. 1 Sect. 2. The occasion of the contention betwixt the Churches originally proceeded from the Romanists by their owne confession p. 10. Sect. 3. Corruptions both in faith and manners confessed by the members of the Romane Church and yet the Reformation denyed by the Pope and why c. p 18 Sect 4. Many learned Romanists conuicted by the euidence of Truth either in part or in whole haue renounced Poperie before their death p. 26. Sect. 5. Worldly policie and profit hinders the Reformation of such things which are altogether inexcusable in themselues p. 35. Sect. 6. The common pretence of our Aduersaries refusing reformation because we cannot assigne the precise time when errors came in Refuted p. 43. Sect. 7. The pedigree of the Romish faith drawne downe from the ancient heretiques and the Protestant faith deriued from Christ and his Apostles p. 59. Sect. 8. The Testimonies of our Aduersaries touching the Antiquitie and vniuersality of the Protestant faith in generall p. 68. Sect. 9. The Testimonies of our Aduersaries touching the Protestant and the Roman faith in these particular paragraphes 1. Iustification by faith onely p. 80. 2. The Sacrament of the Lords Supper and the doctrine of Transubstantiation p 86. 3. Priuate Masse p 116. 4. Seuen Sacraments p 132. 5. Communion in both kinds p. 164. 6. Prayer and Seruice in a known tongue p. 175 7. Worship of Images p. 189. 8. Indulgences p. 211. Sect 10. The Testimonies of our Aduersaries touching the infallible certaintie of the Protestant faith and the vncertaintie of the Romish p. 233. Sect. 11. The Testimonies of our Aduersaries touching the greater safety comfort and benefit of the soule in the Protestant faith then in the Romish pag. 249. Sect. 12. Our Aduersaries conuicted by the euident Testimonies of the ancient Fathers either ridiculously elude them or plainly reiect them p 263. Sect. 13. Our Aduersaries conuinced of a bad cause and an euill conscience by razing of our Records and clipping their owne Authors tongues p. 272. Sect. 14. Our Aduersaries conuicted of their defence of a desperate cause by their blasphemous exception against the Scripture it selfe 278. Sect. 15. Our chiefest Aduersarie Cardinall Bellarmine testifies the truth of our doctrine in the principall points of controuersie betwixt vs. p 287. Sect. 16. Our Aduersaries obiection drawne from the Testimonies of pretended Martyrs of their Religion Answered p 295. Sect. 17. Our Aduersaries common obiection drawne from the charitable opinion of Protestants touching the saluation of professed Romanists liuing and dying in their Church Answered p. 303. Sect. 18. Prouing according to the Title of the booke by the confession of all sides that the Protestants Religion is safer because in all positiue points of doctrine the Romanists themselues agree with vs but in their additions they stand single by themselues p 315. The safe Way Sect. 1. The causlesse bitternesse of the Church of Rome against the Reformed Churches WE reade in the Ecclesiastical History when the ancient Christians at Antioch fell at variance amongst themselues Theodoret sought by a fauourable report to allay the bitternesse of their Contention with these words Both parts make one and the same Confession of their faith Theod. lib 3. Hist. Eccles cap. 4. For both maintaine the Creed of the Nicene Councell The beautifull and sacred name of Truth speakes peace to all and that louely name of Peace giues that sweet counsell to all Christians which Abraham gaue to Lot Gen 13.8 Let there be no strife betwixt me and thee for wee be brethren If the Church of Rome had loued Truth and Peace without doubt the common bond of Christianity and the Creed which is the generall Cognizance of our faith would haue incited them to the like fauourable construction of the Controuersies of this age and the rather because their owne learned Cardinall professeth Bellar de Verbo Dei l. 4. c. 11. Primū Nota Secundò That the Apostles neuer propounded as Common Articles of faith other things then the Articles of the Apostles Creed the ten Commandements some few of the Sacramēts because saith he these things are simply necessarie and profitable for all men the rest are such as a man may be saued without them But such is the nature of the malignant Church and for that cause the Church of Rome is rightly deciphered by that name that instead of qualifying the vnquenchable broyles and intirely preseruing the seamelesse garment of Christ Camp 1. Rat. Jewel Harding pa. 222. 178. shee ●●rmes vs Heretiques hell●ounds of Swinglius Luthers whelpes Turkish Hugenots damned
in our Church viz. that they should neuer teach any thing as matter of faith religiously to be obserued Jn lib. Can. dis Eccles Ang. cap. 6. p. 19. but that which is agreeable to the doctrine of the old and new Testament and collected out of the same doctrine by the ancient Fathers and Catholique Bishops of the Church Let vs ascend higher and looke into former ages and there let vs examine whether these two Sisters agreed in vnitie of doctrine in one and the same house It is reported of Redwald king of the East Saxons Camdens Britannia Eng. pa. 465. that he was the first of all his Nation that was baptized and receiued Christianitie but afterward being seduced by his wife hee had in the selfe same Church saith Bede one Altar for Christs Religion and another for sacrifices vnto diuels Such was the state of the Romane Church especially in the ages after the diuell was let loose there were some that did consecrate themselues and their seruice to the right worship of God alone others to the adorations of Saints and Images there were some that did constantly adore the Creator in his bodily presence in heauen whilst others in the same Church did ignorantly worship the Creature in a consecrated host vpon the Altar and thereupon Michael Cecaenas Generall of the order of Franciscans about 400. yeares past obseruing the different opinions of different members in the same Church complained There were two Churches Mich. Cecaenas contra Tyrannidem Papae the one of the wicked sort flourishing in which the Pope raigned the other of godly good men and this Church he persecuted This learned Friar by his discouerie of two Churches shewes that long since there was a difference in Religion betwixt the two Sisters and thereby he plainly intimates the different estate betwixt Papist and Protestant in the same Church the maior part was subiect to the Pope and that flourished and was visible in the eyes of the world but saith the Franciscan that part consisted of the wicked and consequently was the malignant Church the other part was obscured and persecuted by the Pope but saith he it consisted of the faithfull and true beleeuers and consequently was the true Church I could ascend yet higher and shew that the falling out of the two Sisters was about a husband the one was constant to her first loue Christ Iesus the sole head of her Church the other sought a diuorce from her husband acknowledging the Pope to be the vniuersall head of all Churches but I leaue this to a longer time and a larger Tract Sect. 3. Corruptions both in faith and manners confessed by the members of the Romane Church and yet the reformation denyed by the Pope and why c. IF we looke vpon the latter ages wee shall easily discerne an alteration of Religion by the complaints of Head and members in the same Church Anno 1411. Dixit quòd ipse volebat vacare circa reformationē Ecclesiae c. Pope Alexander the fifth in the yeare 1411. promiseth solemnly to intend the Reformation of the Church and for that purpose to assemble the most learned of all Nations yet nothing was performed At the Councell of Senes in the yeare 1423. this proposition of Reformation was reuiued Anno 1423. but withall it was adiourned de die in diem Quaestorum abusus quorum malitia ita quotidie magno fideliū scandalo querela deprehenditur vt eorum emendatione spes nulla relicta videatur Concil Trident Sess 21. c. 9. Bin. Cum multa iam siue tēporum vitio siue hominū in curia improbitate irrepsisse vi deantur quaeà tanti sacrificij dignitate aliena sunt Concil Trident Sess 22. Decretum de obseruandis euitandis c. and the day of their reformation is not yet come If we come nearer to these times the Councell of Trent in Paul the thirds time complained of Indulgences an Article of the Romane faith That the Popes officers in collectings of mony for those Indulgences gaue a scandall to all faithfull Christians which might seeme to be without all hope of remedy They complained in general that there were many errors and corruptions crept into the Masse by the error of time and wickednesse of men they confesse in particular that Priests for couetousnesse and gaine made contracts and bargaines to say Masses for money in so much it was obserued that the Priest alone said stragling Masses in a corner of the Church for a Tester at the request of him that payed for them Moulin of the Euchar. cap. 21. they confesse that wanton and lasciuious songs were mingled with the Organs and other Church musicke Ab Ecclesijs vero Musicas eas vbi siue organo siue cantu lasciuum aut impurum aliquid miscetur c. Concil Trid. ibid. Agrippa de vanit Scien cap. 18. and this is likewise complained of by their owne Agrippa Hodie c. saith he At this day obsoene and filthie songs haue their intercourse with the Canon of the Masse and as concerning superstitious Ceremonies as namely the certaine number of their candels at their Masses they confessed they were first inuented rather out of superstitious deuotion then true Religion Quorundam vero Missarum candelarum certum numerū qui magis à superstitioso cultu quam à vera religione inuentus est omninò ab Ecclesia remoueant Jdem ibid. neither did these men seeke a reformation in manners onely but in the doctrine it selfe they confessed that the Masse wherein the Priest and people did communicate together was more fruitfull Concil Trid. Sess 22. c. 6. Optaret sacro sancta Synodus c. they professed openly and wished vnfainedly that priuate Masse might be restored to the ancient custome and the practise of the Reformed Churches which communicate ioyntly and seuerally with Priests and people together And as concerning Latine Seruice in their Church although the councell did not allow that at all times and in all places it should be celebrated in the vulgar tongue yet they confesse that the Masse doth containe great instruction for the faithfull Etsi Missa magnam cōtineai populi fidelis eruditionem non tamen expedire visum est Patribus vt vulgari lingua passim celebrar tur quamobrem ne oues Christi esuriant neue paruuli panem petant non sit qui frangat ijs Mandat sancta Synodus Pastoribus singulis curā animarum gerentibus vt frequentèr inter M●ssarū celebrationē vel per se vel per alios ex ijs qu●e in Missa leguntur aliquid exponant at que inter ●●etera sanctissimi huius sacrifi●ij mysterium ali quod declarent Sess 22. c. 8. and therefore say they lest the sheepe of Christ should thirst and the children should craue bread and none should be present to breake it to them Mandat sancta Synodus c. The holy Synod commands
persons and worse then Infidels which vnchristian speeches dipt in lye and gall giue vs iust cause to say with Austen Quotidiana fornax nostra aduersariorilingua Aug. Confess lib. 10. c. 37. Our daily fornace is our aduersaries tongue It cannot bee denied that the reformed and the ancient Romane Church are two Sisters both descended from one and the same Catholike and vniuersall Mother of vs all but when the world shall vnderstand that the Romish Sister hath lost her breasts or at least-wise giueth her Children little or no sincere milke out of her two breasts the two Testaments when the world shall plainely discerne that shee doth daily practise spirituall fornication with the inhabitants of the earth when it shall be witnessed by her selfe that her Sister hath kept her first loue and continued her ancient birth-right from the time of the Apostles to the dayes of Luther Will it not seeme a strange folly or a wilful madnesse to quarrell with her Sister because she will not follow her vnknowne wayes and go a whoring after her inuentions If for no other cause yet for this alone because she played the Harlot her Sister might better iustifie a separation from her then to retaine fellowship with her lewdnesse It is the counsell of the Prophet Hos 4.15.17 If Ephraim be ioyned to Idols let him alone If Israel play the Harlot let not Iuda sinne Babylon was a true Church with which sometimes the religious did communicate but after it was more depraued the faithfull are commanded to go out of her and for that cause Abraham was commanded to go forth of Caldea wherein hee was borne because the inhabitants of the countrey were idolators and the Hebrewes were led out of Egypt by Moses and Aaron because the Egyptians were giuen to vaine superstitions such is our departure from the Church of Rome or rather from the errours of that Church that hath departed from her selfe and for that cause Non fugimus sed fugamur we left her vnwillingly not voluntarily That we bee not partakers of her sinne Reu. 18.4 and that wee receiue not of her plagues That saying of Erasmus was no lesse true then wittie who being demanded of the Duke of Saxonie what was Luthers capitall offence that stirred vp so many opposites against him made answer Luther had committed two great sinnes for he had taken away the Crowne from the Pope and had taken downe the belly of the Monkes and surely setting aside the Popes Lordlines and the luxurie of Priests it shall appeare there is no such cause why she should breathe out Anathemas Curses Excommunications with a Tradatur Satanae let her Sister be deliuered to Satan There is no such cause why shee should daily entertaine Iewes into her bosome when a poore Christian soule a beleeuing Protestant may not approch to her sanctuary for feare of the Inquisition Nobis non licet esse tam disertos The children of this world are wiser in their generation then wee professe our selues to be For as touching the twelue Articles of the Apostles Creed which are the maine parts of the Christian Truth Hoochers Ecclesiasticall Politis and wherein the Church of Rome doth still persist we gladly acknowledge her to bee of the family of Iesus saith Hooker and that which Saint Paul witnessed of the Israelites that in one respect they were enemies Rom. 11.28 but in another they were beloued of God so likewise as concerning the word of God and the Apostles Creed we giue the Church of Rome her due but in another respect as she hath created twelue new Articles and coyned new expositions vpon the old farre different from the doctrine of the Apostles as she depends vpon customarie Tenents which makes their chiefe claime by Tradition as shee relyes vpon the Church for the last resolutiō of faith as she maintaineth and practiseth manifest and manifold Idolatrie as she derogateth from the high price of our Redemption by adding their owne merits and satisfactions to the Merits of Christ as she aduanceth the Pope for the Lord Paramont aboue all that are called Gods In these and many like respects we say her Tenure is meane and base her Tenets are subiect to alienation her Articles are euidences of an vnknowne Truth her vnwritten verities are prescriptions within the memorie of man her Title is vsurpation her confidence is presumption her deuotion is superstition and shee her selfe a professed enemy to the Gospell Sect. 2. The occasion of the contention betwixt the Churches originally proceeded from the Romanists by their owne confession BVt before we enter into the debates and differences of these times it will not be amisse to looke backe and examine the cause of this great calamitie and distraction in the Christian Church and to inquire by whom and what meanes this bitter contention is fallen out betwixt two Sisters Cassander a learned Papist tooke speciall notice that these two sisters were fallen asunder euen to the diuiding of the houshold hee obserued the Author of those fresh bleeding wounds and accordingly as an eye-witnesse of those differences protesteth openly that the fault is to bee layed vpon those which being puffed vp with vaine insolent conceits of their Ecclesiasticall power Cassand Consult 56. 57. proudly and scornefully contemned and reiected them which did rightly and modestly admonish the reformation If we shall further inquire of him what remedy to apply to such incurable diseases he professeth seriously that the Church can neuer hope for any firme peace vnlesse they begin to make it which haue giuen the cause of that distraction If we further presse him for his aduise how to procure that Peace from them which first occasioned the falling off he replies and confidently assures vs that this cannot be effected vnlesse those which are in place of Ecclesiasticall gouernment would be content to remit some thing of their too much rigour and yeeld somewhat to the peace of the Church and hearkening vnto the earnest prayers and admonitions of many godly men will set themselues to correct manifest abuses according to the rule of diuine Scriptures and the Primitiue Church from which they haue swerued Here is a plaine confession of a learned Romanist that many abuses are crept into the Romane Church here is likewise an acknowledgement of a distemperature that proceedeth from the head and we know when the head is distempered commonly the whole body is out of order Now to rectifie these abuses he prescribes a Rule which is the holy Scriptures and he sets before vs an ancient patterne for our instruction which is the Primitiue Church If the Scripture be the rule of Truth and the ancient doctrine be the patterne of a true Church how can our Religion bee charged with heresie which professeth the Scripture to be the sole rule of faith or how can it be iustly accused of Noueltie as deriued from Luther when it is a Canon published for the direction of Preachers and Pastors
all Pastors hauing cure of soules that frequently at the celebration of the Masse either by themselues or by some others to interpret and declare the mysterie of the Sacrament vnto the people How neare these men doe come to our doctrine who doth not perceiue For touching p●incipall points of their doctrine First their great Councell of Trent declares it for a point of faith that the vse of Indulgences is most wholesome for the people Bulla Pij quarti Artic 10. yet they confessed the scandall that came by them was very great and without hope of reformation their Councell accurseth all those that should hold priuate Masses vnlawfull yet they wish they were restored to the custome of the reformed Church where Priest and people communicate together the Councell accurseth all those that condemne the practise of the Romane Church for deliuering the Canon of their Masse in a silent or an vnknowne tongue and yet shee commands all Massing Priests to explaine and expound the meaning of those words deliuered in a silent and vnknowne manner From these and the like confessions of diuers errours in the Church Decretum de Reformatione Sess 22 cap. 9 Biniuus the Bishops and Fathers of the Councell made a Decree for a Reformation the Pope himselfe caused many Cardinals to assemble and consider of the errors and for the easier redresse they were commanded to bee proposed to the Pope and Cardinals in the Consistorie and if you question me who did hinder the reformation I must say with Cassander they were such who were puffed with Ecclesiasticall authoritie and reputed principall members in the same Church Nicholas Scomberg by profession a Dominican by place a Cardinall opposed the Reformation and pressed the Pope and his Cardinals with these and the like reasons Histor of Trent li. 1. p. 83. Engl. It would giue an occasion to the Lutherans to bragge that they had enforced the Pope to make that Reformation and aboue all it would be a beginning to take away not onely the abuses but good vses also and so to endanger the whole state of Religion for by the Reformation it would bee confessed that the things prouided against were deseruedly reprehended by the Lutherans which would bee a great abetting to their whole doctrine Sect. 4. Many learned Romanists conuicted by the euidence of Truth either in part or in whole haue renounced Poperie before their death HOw auaileable these reasons may seeme to hinder a reformation I leaue to euery mans iudgement yet sure I am the reformed Churches haue done nothing in this other then the former Councels had anciently decreed and diuerse of their owne Church had formerly wished to be done and I am certainly persuaded were it not for feare of endangering the Romish Religion as the Cardinall rightly obserued our aduersaries would come nearer vnto vs in all the fundamental points that our Church teacheth for looke vpon the Communion in both kinds and you shall find the Councell of Basil about two hundred yeares since did allow the Cup to the Bohemians vpon this condition Genebr lib. 4. Chronich That they should not find fault with the contrarie vse nor seuer themselues from the Catholique Church Looke vpon the restraint of Priests marriage and you shall heare Aeneas Siluius afterward Pope Pius giue his Royall assent with vs. Aeneas Sylu. de Concil Basil l. 2. As marriage vpon weightie reasons was taken from the Priests so vpon weightie considerations it were wished to be restored Looke vpon priuate Masses and of this saith Master Harding Jewel Harding ca Priuat Masse in Initio the godly and faithfull people haue since the time of the Primitiue Church much complained and for the better correspondence with vs in the greatest mysterie of our saluation Looke vpon the Scriptures and you shall finde the Rhemist Testament translated into English and this was done Importunitate Haereticorum as they of Doway speake by the importunitie of Heretiques and to conclude they haue of late granted a dispensation to some men women also to reade the Scriptures and this was done Importunitate Haereticorum by the importunitie of Heretiques It is no wonder that the poore widow in the Gospell did preuaile with the corrupt Iudge by importunitie when such heretiques as wee are reputed to be haue preuailed by importunitie with such true Catholikes as they pretend themselues to be yet if we looke but within the memorie of man wee shall find that most of the Romish proselites did frequent our Church and diuine seruice for the first eleuen yeares of our blessed Queene Elizabeth L. Coke de Jure Regis Ecclesiastice fol. 34. neither was their communicating with vs forbidden by any lawfull Councell and I am verily perswaded That many at this day in the Church of Rome do assent to our doctrine that dare not communicate with vs openly in the Church for I appeale to their owne consciences how many of them which are taught the doctrine of concomitance haue wished the restoring of the Sacramentall Cup to the lay people how many with hands and hearts lifted vp adore Christ Iesus in his bodily presence in heauen when the consecrated bread is presented to them for reall flesh vpon the Altar How many worship the inuisible God in Spirit and Truth when they retaine the Images for memorie for history for ornament not for adoration How many doe smile at Indulgences and Pardons at particular shrifts at merrie Pilgrimages at ridiculous and fained miracles at diuine vertue ascribed to Medals Beads Agnus Dei and the like which are termed godly deceits and harmeles guiles to feed the ignorant How many do preferre the lawfulnesse of Priests marriage before the keeping of a Concubine Grauius peccare sacerdotem si vxorem ducat quam si domi concubinam foiseat Coster Enchirid c. 15. propo 9. although the contrarie be the common doctrine of the Church of Rome Lastly how many for feare of vaine glorie and by reason of the vncertaintie of their workes do relye wholly vpon the merits of Christ Iesus Shew mee that learned man that liueth a professed Papist in the Church of Rome and dieth not a sound Protestant in this prime foundation of our faith B. Gardiner That Bishop who would not haue the gap of this doctrine opened to the ignorant in time of his health yet in the time of his sicknesse sets the merits of Christ in the gappe to stand betwixt Gods iudgement and his owne sinnes And Cardinall Bellarmine who taught in time of his health that a man had a double right to the kingdome of God part by his owne merits part by the merits of Christ Yet I say this stout and learned defender of his faith concludes with a Tutissimum It is the safest way to relye wholly on the merits of Christ Iesus and in time of his sicknesse when he was to render an account of his workes and doctrine Et precor me inter
sanctos electos suos non vt aestimator meriti sed vt veniae largitor admitta● Bellar. Test pag 89. Ricard Tapp explic artic Theolog. Louan tom 2. art 8. in his last Will and his last words he sounds a retreate and beggeth pardon at the hands of God Not as a valuer of merits but as a giuer of mercie And their owne Albertus Piggius who did bitterly inueigh against our Church and doctrine especially in the point of Iustification by reading of Caluins Institutions with a purpose to confute them in that very point Controu 2. tit de Instito fol. 50. became himselfe a Caluinist neither was it his case alone but Paulus Vergerius a Romish Bishop Episcopus Iustino-politareus who in like manner began to write a booke against the Protestants which he intituled Adnersus Apostatas Germaniae against the Apostates of Germanie after he had examined their bookes and weighed their arguments with a purpose to confute them found himselfe taken and vanquished and laying aside the hope of a Cardinalship which at that time the Pope intended him Sleida Comment Relig. lib. 21. hee trauelled to Pola where Germanus his brother a Romish Bishop was residing and after much debate and conference had of the doctrine of Iustification his brother also yeelded and protested against the Romish doctrine and both with mutuall ioy and consent of minds professed and proclaimed the Protestant faith to all beleeuers Sect. 5. Worldly pollicie and profit hinders the Reformation of such things which are altogether inexcusable in themselues I Speake not this as if there were hope of a Reformation in the Romane Church For when I consider that many opinions which formerly crept in the Church are now established for Articles of faith when I consider that some of their points are so linked together that the vnloosing of one is sometimes the losse of all when I plainely see vpon one point of faith namely one Purgatorie Trentals Masses Diriges Requiems Prayers for the dead the doctrine of Merits works of Supererogation Indulgences Pardons Iubilies the power of binding and loosing since I say all these attend vpon the opening and shutting of Purgatorie and this Purgatory is created a point of faith and this faith is confirmed by Councels meerly for the benefit of the Pope and Clergie What hope can wee haue to get these golden keyes of Purgatorie from them by what means can we procure them to exercise the facultie of shutting as well as opening the power of binding as well as loosing when no man will giue mony to be bound but to be loosed in Purgatory Againe when I consider the saying of Maldonat the Iesuite daily practised by the Church of Rome against our Church and doctrine Mald. Comment in Ioh. 6.62 viz. Although I haue no other Author for my exposition but my selfe yet I allow it rather then Austens Although his be most probable because this of mine doth more crosse the sense of the Caluinists When I say our Religion is directly and immediatly deriued from the Scripture when our doctrine agreeth in the fundamentall points with Saint Austen and the Fathers when the Primitiue and Reformed Churches haue shakē hands together is it not a meere malice to oppose a knowne ancient doctrine and to make a league against God and his Word against the true religion her Church They are base wits saith Viues which are so affected Viues Lib. de causis art corrupt whereas ingenious minds and natures well giuen will rather seeke how true that is which they hold then how they may defend it making greater price of veritie then victorie yet it cannot be denied that this is the common practise of the Romane Church for otherwise what man in his right senses would take vpon him to be wiser then God and in their Psalters leaue out the second Commandement hazard that heauie doome Cursed bee he that addeth or detracteth from the least of these sayings Reu. 22.18.19 What sense is there that the Church of Rome should presume to alter Christs Institution and take away the Cup from the Laitie when it is confessed by their owne generall Councell Concil Constant Ses 13. that Christ did institute the Cup for the people and the Primitiue Church did continue it in both kinds what reason can be alledged why an ignorant man should pray without vnderstanding when the Apostle commands vs to pray with the Spirit 1. Cor. 14. and to pray with the vnderstanding also What discretion should leade men to inuocate Saints and Angels when the Apostle doth make this vnanswerable question How shall they call vpon him in whom they haue not beleeued Rom. 10.14 What confidence and assurance of humane frailtie should cause them to leane to leane to a broken staffe of their own merits when they may safely relye vpon the sole merits of Christ Iesus What madnes is it to adore a peece of bread which depends vpon the intention of another man seeing his intention may faile and cause flat idolatrie in the worshipper when they may safely certainly adore Christ Iesus sitting at the right hand of the Father What stupiditie is it to worship a picture the worke of mens hands and to aduenture idolatry vpon nice distinctions when without danger they may worship the true God in Spirit and truth Ioh. 4.24 as he will be worshipped Lastly what foolishnes is it for man to relye vpon the Church which is the authority of man that may erre when he may build vpon the infallible rule of Gods word which is agreed on all hands that cannot erre If men for aduantage of their cause or for their owne preferment will by shifts and cauils turne the necks of Scriptures and Fathers cleane about and wrest them to their owne side let them beware of their example who could not beleeue or if they did beleeue durst not confesse Christ Because they sought the praise of men more then the praise of God! Ioh. 5.44 Sect. 6. The common pretence of our Aduersaries refusing Reformation because we cannot assigne the precise time when errours came in Refuted HOw farre the Church of Rome stands guilty of this crime I wil not take vpon me to censure but sure I am they are so far from reforming the abuses and errors in their Church that they will not acknowledge their points of doctrine to be errouious vnlesse we can assigne the time and point at the persons who first broached them Now since we are all eye witnesses that the errors of the Romish Church are at this day so notorious that a very child may reprehend them it were more fit as I conceiue to redeeme the time by correcting those errors that crept into the Church then to enquire after times and persons which are not in their hands If a man be sicke of a Consumption wil he refuse helpe of the Physitian except he can resolue him whether his Lungs or his Liuer
were first infected and shew the time when and the occasion how his body grew first distempered When an house is ready to fall men doe not stand to enquire what post or principall did first decay or the time when the raine did first begin to rot it but they seeke to amend that which is most ruinous and support that part which is most subiect vnto falling If you will haue a more familiar example Obsecro inquit cogita quomodò huc me liberes non quomodo hûc ceciderim quaeras Aug. Epist. 29. S. Austin will giue you one A man saith he fals into a pit and cals for helpe hee that should lend him his hand for present reliefe fals to asking him this question Quomodo hîc cecidisti How didst thou fall in here but heare what answer he makes him I pray aduise me how I may come out neuer aske mee the question how I came in Mat. 13. In the parable of the Sower Christ himselfe giues a ful answer to those impertinent demands he tels vs that the Thiefe sowed the tares in the night time when all were asleepe Dormientibus hominibus and from this parable common reason will foorthwith conclude If all were asleep how could those of the house see him if they did not see him how could they produce him Now as the Thiefe came at vnawares and in the night season when there was none so much as dreamt of him Mat. 24.43 so likewise of this be sure saith the Euangelist if the good man of the house knew at what watch the Thiefe would come he would surely haue watched and then certainly he would haue told the time and the person The doctrine that wee complaine of is a mysterie of Iniquitie Jniquitas sed mystica i. pietatis nomine palliata it is a mysterie cloked with the name of pietie and wee know mysteries are secret and haue close and priuate working they work not openly and publiquely but by decrees leasurably cunningly and warily to auoide discoueries And as Tares sowne in good ground being but a small seed lye long couered and hidde in the earth before they appeare after they appeare they grow to another shape and so multiplie in the seed sowne such is the condition of errors sowed in the Church first it is an opinion broached by some priuat man and happily with a good intention then by addition becomes an error of some one or few which at first is not easily espied or not much regarded afterward it gathereth strength and multiplyeth it selfe into diuers parts and members of the body and so by continuance becomes a knowne errour and then the seruant makes complaint to his Master Sir didst thou not sow good seed in thy field from whence then hath it Tares but which is most obseruable the husbandman did not espie the tares vntill they had almost choked the good corne Wee say therefore that in the Primitiue Church when any heresie did arise that endangered the foundation such as was the heresie of the Arrians of the Pelagians of the Donatists and the like the first Authors were obserued the times were knowne the place was pointed at and forthwith demissarie and testimonicall letters were written which were then in vse and were sent to all the parts and sound members of the Catholique Church by which publique notice the steale-truth was discouered and after publication of his heresie the partie was repressed and excluded from the communion of the whole Church and in this alteration or change of doctrine Bellarmines reason may take place Bellar. lib. 4. cap. 5. that is in euery great and notorious mutation there may be obserued the Author the time and the place the beginnings increasings and resistance made against it but the change of Romish doctrine was otherwise it was like the cokatrise egge along time in the shell before the Cokatrise did appeare it was a secret Apostasie a falling away from the Truth which was caused at the first by an error stole into the Church Sensim sine sensu vnsensible and vnawares and therin appeares the difference betwixt open heresie and secret Apostasie The open heretique visibly and professedly in a time knowne by a person named with a doctrine publiquely professed proclaimes his heresies against all true Catholiques The secret Apostata closely and warily in the time of darknesse when the husbandman is asleepe vnseene and vnawares scattereth his seed the one is easie to bee discouered and knowne both for time and person because he worketh openly in the day the other scarcely to be discouered because hee worketh onely in the night It is an vndeniable truth that some opinions were condemned in the Primitiue Church for erronious and superstitious which now are established for Articles of faith in the Roman Church to giue an instance S. Austin complaines that in his time the rude sort of people were intangled with superstition Noui multos sepulchrorum picturarum adoratores sed illud admoneo vt Catholicae Ecclesiae maledicere desi natis vituperando mores hominum quos ipsa condemnat quos corrigere studet August de Moribus Eccles Cathol lib. 1. cap. 34. euen in the true Church I my selfe saith he know many that are worshippers of Tombes and Pictures whom the Church condemneth and seekes euery day by correction to amend them as vngratious children This holy Father complaines of some people in his daies which became superstitious in worshipping of Images whom the Church did then condemne as corrupters of true Religion the authors of this error hee nameth not the time when it began hee sheweth not notwithstanding we are all eye witnesses that this corruption hath got the vpper hand and that which was then condemned by Saint Austin and the Church for superstition was confirmed foure hundred yeares after by the second Councell of Nice for Catholique doctrine and is now decreed by the Councell of Trent for an Article of faith Hee that gaue first a Primacy of order to Saint Peter did neuer intend a primacy of power to the Pope and yet we see the Pope hath obtained it he that made pictures of Saints for memory for historie for ornament did litle dream that the works of his hands should be worshipped and that worship should bee decreed for an Article of faith and yet we see it is so established in the Church of Rome He that in testimonie of the resurrection and out of humane affection commended the memory of dead soules vnto God did neuer dreame of Purgatorie yet we see Purgatory is become a point of faith and made a gainefull marchandize in the Papall sea He that stirred vp men to charitie and works of pietie did neuer intend to make works copartners with faith in our Iustification and yet wee see this doctrine is stoutly iustified by their Proselites He that instructed the Minister at the time of the Sacraments religiously and carefully to intend that part
was vsed by the Apostles their successors not deuised by Luther If therefore the three Creeds the two principall Sacraments of the Church the 22. bookes of Canonicall Scripture the first foure generall Councels the Apostolique Traditions the ancient Lyturgies the ordination of Pastors If I say all these were anciently taught and vniuersally receiued in all ages in the bosome of the Romane Church euen by the testimonies of our aduersaries themselues it is but a silly and senslesse question to demand of vs where our Church was before Luther The positiue doctrine which we teach is contained in a few principall points those also haue Antiquity and Vniuersality with the Consent of the Romane Church The points in controuersie which are sub Iudice in question are for the most part if not all additions to the Church and certainely frō those additions and new Articles of faith the question doth truly and properly result vpon themselues Where was your Church that is Where was your Trent doctrine and Articles of the Romane Creed receiued de Fide before Luther But admit our doctrine lay inuolued in the bosome of the Romane Church which no Romanist can deny I say admit it became hidden as good corne couered with chaffe or as fine gold ouerlayed with a greater quantitie of drosse was it therefore new and vnknowne because Poperie sought by a preuailing faction to obscure it was there no good corne in the Granary of the Church because till Luthers dayes it was not seuered from the chaffe no pure gold because our aduersaries would not refine it by the fire of Gods word If the chaffe and drosse be ours or if our Church sauour of nothing but Noueltie and heresie as some of these men pretend let them remoue from the bosome of their owne Church that new and hereticall doctrine which they say was neuer heard of before Luther and tell mee if their Church will not prooue a poore senslesse carkasse a dead body without a soule Take away the three Creeds which we professe our two Sacraments the 22. bookes of Canonicall Scripture the Apostolicall Traditions the foure first general Councels and tell me such light chaffe new heresies as they how stile them being remoued if their twelue new Articles their fiue base Sacraments the Apostolicall Scriptures their vnwritten verities and Traditions will make a true visible Church It is true that wee denie their additions there aliquod amplius because they are grounded on humane authoritie and want the foundation of the Scriptures wee denie Purgatorie Inuocation of Saints Works of Supererrogation worship of Images and the like and if our Religion be therfore termed Negatiue for deniall of those things who sees not but for the like reason they themselues wil stand guiltie of the same aspersion Do not they denie the substance of bread after Consecration doe not they denie the Scriptures to the Laitie Marriage to the Priests the Cup to the Lay people the Supremacie to their Soueraigne in his own dominions and may not we for these and the like reasons protest against them that therfore theirs is a Negatiue Religion But that the world may know wee obtrude not these things by way of recrimination it shall appeare by their owne confession the Traditions which we deny are declined by the best learned amongst themselues Nay more they doe not onely acknowledge those things which we hold but the most ingenious of them are ashamed also of those additions which wee denie As for instance we charge them with the worship of Images they denie it or leastwise excuse their manner of adoration but they condemne not vs for not worshipping We accuse them for praying in an vnknowne tongue they excuse it that God knowes the meaning of the heart but they do not condemne vs for praying with the spirit and with vnderstanding Wee condemne them for adoring the elements of bread and wine in the Sacrament because it depends vpon the intention of the Priest they excuse it Jnnocentius the third Adoro te si tu es Christus that they adore vpon condition If the consecrated bread be Christ but they doe not cōdemne vs for adoring Christs reall body in heauen we accuse them for taking away the Cup from the Lay people they excuse it that it was not taken vp by the Commandement of the Bishops Coster Enchirid de commun sub vtraque specie Anno 1414. but it crept in the Bishops winking thereat saith Costerus but they did not condemne vs for following Christs example and receiuing in both kinds Lastly we accuse them for their priuate Masses contrarie to Christs institution and the custome of the Primitiue Church Harding in B. Jewel ca. Priuat Masse they excuse it That it is through their own default and negligence whereof saith Master Harding the godly and faithfull people since the time of the Primitiue Church haue much complained and which is remarkable and comfortable to all beleeuing Protestants we charge them with flat idolatrie in the adoration of the Sacrament in Reliques in Saints in Images and howsoeuer they excuse themselues in distinguishing their manner of adoration yet I say to our endlesse comfort be it spoken they cannot charge vs in the positiue doctrine of our Church no not with the least suspition of idolatrie Sect. 9. The testimonies of our Aduersaries touching the Protestant and the Romane faith in the particulars PARAG. 1. Iustification by faith onely THese things premised I will proceed to the examination of witnesses both for the Antiquitie of our doctrine and the Noueltie of theirs but before I go to publication I will present you with two Records for two principall points of our faith by which euidences it shal appeare that the Word and Sacraments the proper marks of a true Church were rightly preached and duely administred here in England in the most obscure ages long before Luthers daies I say it shall appeare that before and after the Conquest the Priests and professors of those times protested openly against the doctrine of Romish merits preaching saluation through Christ alone and withall publikely professed and administred the same Sacraments in the same faith and truth which wee teach and administer at this day In the dayes of Anselme Archbishop of Canterburie about the yeare 1080. there was a set and publique forme of prayer prescribed for the visitation of the sicke Cass in append ad opus Jo. Roffen de fiducia misericordia Dei. and this forme saith Cassander in Bibliothecis passim obuia was commonly to be had and read in all Libraries The wordes are plaine and fully consonant to the faith our Church professeth Ordo Baptizandi visitandi edit venet Anno 1575. Dost thou beleeue to come to glorie not by thine owne merits but by the vertue and merit of the passion of our Lord Iesus Christ dost thou beleeue that our Lord Iesus Christ did dye for our saluation and that none can
and Vasques the Iesuite would vnderstand the Law against Images to be a positiue and Ceremoniall Law and therefore to cease at the entrance of the Gospell Haec opinio no bis non probatur Bellar. de Jmag. l. 2. c. 7. yet Bellarmine disauowes that construction with a Non probatur This opinion is not allowed of vs both for the reasons made against the Iewes and for that Iraeneus Tertullian Cyprian and Augustine doe all teach the commandements excepting the Sabbath are a Law naturall and morall If therfore the old commandement be not abrogated let vs see what example or precept there is in the Gospell for adoration M. Fisher in D. Whites reply p. 226. Master Fisher the Iesuite tels vs In the Scripture there is no expresse practise nor precept of worshipping the Image of Christ yet there bee Principles which the light of Nature supposed conuince adoration to be lawfull So that from the law of God and the law of grace we are at last returned to the Law of Nature and from the light of Nature an Article of faith must be declared I haue read of Varro a heathen Phylosopher who from the instinct of Nature professed the contrarie doctrine The Gods saith he are better serued without Images Castius Dij obseruantur sine simula chris August de Ciuit. Deo li. 4. cap. 31. And Saint Austin conceiues this Tenet of his to be so good a principle in Nature that he condescends to his opinion and testifies thus much in his behalfe Although Varro attained not to the knowledge of the true God yet how neare he came to the truth in this saying who doth not see it Now the reason why these Fathers condemned the worshippers of Images for heretiques and idolaters is rendred by Eusebius Euseb Eccles hist lib. 7. cap. 17. Engl. Because saith he the men of old of a Heathenish custome were wont after that manner to honour such as they counted Sauiours And thereupon after that Images had got footing among the Christians the Bishops and Emperours by Councels and commands tooke speciall care to preuent them both in the making and the worshipping The Councell of Eliberis at Granado in Spaine Concil Elibert Can. 36. decreed That no pictures should be in Churches lest that which was worshipped should be painted on the wals And the good Emperours Valens and Theodosius made proclamation to all Christians against the Images of Christ in this manner Petrus Crinitus l. 9. ca. 9. For as much as wee haue a diligent care in all things to maintaine the Religion of the most high God therefore wee suffer no man to fashion to graue or paint the Image of our Sauiour either in colours or in stone or in any other kinde of mettall or matter but wheresoeuer any such Image shall be found wee command it to be taken downe assuring our subiects that wee will most strictly punish all such as shall presume to attempt any thing contrarie to our decrees and commandements I forbeare to cite the particular Fathers that opposed and condemned the worship of Images in the Primitiue Church it may suffice this doctrine wants a foundation in the Scriptures by their owne confession and now it shall appeare they want the visibilitie of the ancient Church and the testimonies of holy Fathers by the like acknowledgement of the learned Romanists amongst themselues Rectè ob euacuandam superstitionē ab orthodoxis Patribus definitū est Picturas in Ecclesia sieri non dabere ne quod coli tur adoratur c. E Bibliotheca Papyrij Nasoni in ijs libellis de picturis Imaginibus Agobardus Bishop of Lyons The orthodoxe Fathers for auoiding of superstition did carefully prouide that no pictures should be set vp in Churches lest that which is worshipped should be painted on the walls There is no example in all the Scriptures or Fathers for adoration of Images they ought to be taken for an ornament to please the sight not to instruct the people Hinema Rernens contr Hincmarum Hincmarus Archbishop of Rhemes In the raigne of Charles the Great the sea Apostolique willing it so to be a generall Synod was kept in Germanie by the conuocation of the said Emperour Jandunensē Episc c. 20. and thereby the rule of Scriptures and doctrine of the Fathers the false Councell of the Grecians concerning worship of Images was confuted and vtterly reiected Cassander Quantum veteres initio ecclesiae ab omni veneratione Imaginum abhorruerunt declarat vnus Origin aduersus Celsū c. Cassand Consult de simulachris How much the ancient Fathers in the Primitiue Church did abhorre all manner of worshipping Images Origen declares against Celsus and Austin in his manners of the Catholique Church and Ambrose in his fifth book of his Epistles and 31. do sufficiently declare Peresius Aiala Peres Omnes fere Scholastici in hoc sunt quo Image Christi sanctorum adorari debeat eadem adoratione quâ res quae representātur huius doctrinae nullū quod ego viderim afferūt validū fundamentum non neque Scripturam neque traditionem ecclesiae neque cōmunē consensū sanctorum neque concilij gratis determinationem aliquam nec etiam rationē quâ hoc efficaciter suaderi possit adducant Epis copus Guidi xiensis lib. de Tradit par 2. c. de Imag. p. 158. Statuit olim vniuersalis Ecclesia legitima occasione inductae propter illos qui erant ex Gentibus ad fidē conuersi vt nulle in Templis imagines ponerentur Nich. Clem. l. de nō celeb non in stit 11. Ea vt Polyd. Non medó nostrae religionis expertes sed teste Hieronymo omnes ferè veteres sancti Patres dānabant ob metum idolatriae c. Pol. de Inuent Rerū l. 6. c. 13Vsque ad atatem Hieronymi erant probatae religionis vi●i qui in Templis nullam ferebant imaginē nec picturā nec sculptā c. Eras in Catechesi Corruptus Gentiliū mos falsa religio nostram quoque religionē infecit c Cornel. Agr. de vanit scient c. 57. Wicel epist in exercit verae Ptetatis All Schoolemen in a manner hold that the Images of Christ and the Images of Saints are to be worshipped with the same adoration that there samplars are but they produce not so farre as I haue seene any sound proofe of this doctrine to wit either Scriptures or Tradition of the Church or common consent of Fathers or the determination of a generall Councell or any other effectual reason sufficient to perswade a man to that beleefe Nicholas Clemangis The vniuersall Church did anciently decree that no Images should be set vp in Churches and this was done for the Gentiles sake who were conuerted to Christianitie Polydore Virgill The worshipping of Images not onely those who knew not our Religion but as Saint Hierome witnesseth almost all the ancient Fathers condemned for feare of
idolatrie Erasmus Vnto Saint Hieromes time those of the true Religion would suffer no Image neither painted nor grauen in the Church no not the picture of Christ Cornelius Agrippa The corrupt manners and false Religion of the Gentiles hath infected our Religion brought into the Church Images and pictures with many ceremonies of externall pompe none whereof was found amongst the first and true Christians Wicelius I confesse it doth griue me that vnder pretence of I know not what Dulia it is affirmed that one may and ought to honour with adoration the Saints and their Images The Fathers of the ancient Church haue taught the people that they must honour but not worship the Saints Chemnit exā de Imag. p. 41. The Councell of Frankford It is not to be found that any of the Patriarckes and Prophets or Fathers did adore Images but the Scriptures crie out to worship one Image God and him onely to adore and glorifie and the Fathers of the Primitiue Church did forbeare the adoration of Images as it appeares by Epiphanius and Augustine And others who reckon the worshippers of Images amongst the Symonians and the Carpocratian heretiques and this was the approoued doctrine deliuered and decreed by three hundred Bishops in the yeare 794. From this confession a doubt will arise touching the lawfulnesse of making Images viz. for that end to adore them and another doubt will follow adoration in what manner it ought to be extended to the Image or restrained Touching the first Bellarmine saith Bellar. de Relig Imag. Sanct. lib. 2. c. 7. It is proued by the Diuine Law that Images were not absolutely forbidden by reason the brazen Serpent c. were made by Gods command He that professeth they were not absolutely forbidden implies they were in a manner forbidden or rather that there is no place of Scripture that commands the contrarie for adoration which an Article of faith doth require but the Cardinals reason that the making of them is not absolutely forbidden by the Law of God because God commanded Images to be made seemes to bee no reason for the Iewes could answer God did lay a generall command vpon men and not vpon himselfe besides that plea for Images which the Cardinall makes was the ancient Apologie which the Idolaters vsed for their Images in the first ages Tertullian puts the question and returnes an excellent answer which may serue for him and vs. Sed dit quidam c. cur ergo Moses in Eremo simulachrum Serpentis ex aere fecit benè quod idem Deus lege ve●●●it similitudinē fieri extraordinarie praecepto Serpentis similitudinem interdixit Si cundem Deum obsernas habes legē eius Ne feceris similitudinem si praeceptum factae postea similitudinis respicis tu imitare Moysen Ne facias aduersus legem simulacrum aliquod nisi tibi Deus iusserit Tertul. lib. de Idolat p. 618. Some will obiect why did Moses make the Image of the brasen Serpent in the Wildernes well and good one and the same God hath by his generall Law forbidden an Image to be made and also by his extraordinarie and speciall commandement an Image of a Serpent to be made If thou be obedient to the same God thou hast his Law make thou no Image but if thou haue a regard to the Image of the Serpent make not any Image against the Law vnlesse God command thee as he did Moses and thus briefly concerning the making of them Concerning the worship of them the same Cardinall tels vs Nos cum Ecclesiâ asserimus c. Wee affirme with the Church that the Images of Christ and his Saints are to be honoured so that there bee no confidence placed in them nor nothing requested of them nor no Diuinity be conceiued to bee in them but that they be honoured onely for themselues whom they represent and thus by Bellarmines reasons the making of Images is not absolutely forbidden and the adoration of them is but conditionally permitted and surely I could wish they were absolutely forbidden by them till those conditions were rightly and truely performed by the ignorant and Lay people for I will not slander them it is the confession of their owne Church men that there are many of the rude and ignorant which worship the very Images of wood or stone Polyd. Virgil. de Inuent lib. 6. c. 13. or marble or brasse or pictures painted vpon the wals not as figures but as if they had verily sense and doe put more trust in them then they doe in Christ or other Saints to whom they are dedicated Neither is this any new complaint for this latter age Gab. Biel in Can. Lect. 14. for Gabriel Biel there owne Schooleman complained before Luthers daies that the blockish errour of certaine people was so great and they were so affected to Images that they thought some diuine grace or Sanctitie resided in them by which they were able to worke miracles and giue health and for that cause they worshipped them to the end they might obtaine some such benefit at their hands and that we may further know that none of Bellarmines conditions are performed in the worshipping of Images Cornel. Agrippa de vanit c. 57. Their owne Cornelius Agrippa declares the peoples demeanour and carriage towards them in the Roman Church in this manner Wee bowe our heads to them wee kisse them we offer lights to them we hang vp gifts we apply miracles and buy pardōs of them to conclude we goe a pilgrimage to them we make vowes vnto them we inwardly worship them as well as outwardly neither can it be vttered with how great superstition I may not say Idolatrie the rude and ignorant are nourished in Images the Priests winke thereat and reape thereby no small gaine to their purses The conditions then are confessed to bee broken but withall heere wee finde the case of Demetrius he made siluer shrines and brought no small gaine to the craftsmen and thereupon hee cryeth out Acts 19.25 Sirs you know that by this craft we haue our wealth nor that onely but if these things should be denied the Temple of the Great Diana would bee despised whom all the world worshippeth Here is a true Modell of the Romane Church she causeth Images to be made she drawes from them no small aduantage nor that onely but if they should condemne their worship being published for an Article of faith other Articles would bee questioned and the Church of Rome would bee disesteemed whom all the world admireth Since therefore the worship of Images wants the vniuersalitie and consent of Fathers in the Primitiue Church since they haue no foundation no footstep in the Word of God by the confession of their owne Church Saint Austins confession shall be my conclusion for this Article of Faith If wee or an Angell from heauen preach vnto you any thing concerning faith and life besides that you haue receiued in the
harum rerum mentionē s●ciant quoniā c. Bellar. de Indulg lib. 2. cap. 17. either in Scriptures or the writings of the Ancient Fathers but onely out of Moderne Authors C. Caietan If there could be a certaintie found touching the beginning of Indulgences it would much auaile in searching of the truth but because there can be no certainty found touching the beginning of them there is no authoritie of Scripture or Ancient Fathers Greeke or Latine that bringeth them to our knowledge Bellarmine It is not to bee wondred if we haue not many Ancient Authors which makes mention of Indulgences for many things are contained in the Church onely by vse and custome without writing This learned Cardinall confesseth that many ancient authorities are not to be expected for proofe of this doctrine and this seemes to me a strange thing that an Article of faith should want Antiquity and Vniuersality of Fathers which as they pretend belongs to al points of faith it is strange that a Generall Councell should declare them to bee deriued from Christ and yet they should want ancient Fathers to witnesse Christs doctrine I rather beleeue according to the Article of the Creed that the vse thereof is most wholesome for the people for albeit they are granted onely to draw money from them yet withall the Popes Ministers had this benefit by them they sometimes set them to sale for a small price or game at Tables in a Tauerne Guicciard lib. 13. anno 1520. to redeeme soules out of Purgatory as it is witnessed by their owne Authors The Learned Doctors of of the Trent-Councell were not ignorant of this practise and of much more exercised by Leo the Tenth and others of his Predecessors but they were so farre from beleefe that this point of faith should bee deriued from Christ and his Apostles that Ecchius and Thecel and Prierius for want of Scriptures and Fathers laid their groundworke on the Popes authority and consent of Schoolemen Histor. of Trent lib. 1. p. 6. concluding that the Pope not being able to erre in matters of faith and hauing approoued the doctrine of the Schoolemen and himselfe publishing the Indulgences to all the faithfull it was necessary to beleeue them as an Article of faith I will not say it was a strāge presumption for a Councell to determine an vncertaine doctrine for a point of faith vpon the Popes infallibilitie and opinion of Schoolemen but I will say it is a senselesse and weake faith that giues assent to that doctrine which wants authority of Scriptures and consent of Fathers It was an ingenuous confession of their owne Cunerus Dolendum simul mirandū c. It is to bee lamented and admired how some Catholiques doe write of Indulgences so timorously so coldly so diuersly Chamier de satisfacti lib. 24. cap 2. so doubtfully as if their reasons were so farre fetched or so vncertaine that without great difficultie they could not proue them and surely if Cardinall Bellarmine or Cardinall Caietan and the rest could haue found better proofes for this point of faith they would neuer haue confessed that neither Scriptures nor Fathers doe bring them to our knowledge especially since no Article of faith can bee created without the authoritie of scriptures and therfore Saint Austins confession shall be my conclusion for their Article of faith If wee or an Angell from heauen preach vnto you any thing concerning faith and life besides that you haue receiued in the Legall and Euangelicall Scriptures let him bee accursed You haue heard the confessions of our best learned Aduersaries witnessing with vs that the principall points of their Faith and doctrine now taught and professed in the Church of Rome were not knowne to former ages whereby we may easilie discerne how the Church of Rome doth obtrude strange Articles of beleife vpon her Proselites which haue no foundations in the Scriptures and want the vniuersalitie and consent of Fathers and although the Priests and Iesuits are bound by an oath to maintaine the Papacie and thereupon they generaly protest that al the Fathers are on their side and the ignorant people out of an affected ignorance blinde obedience easily condescend to that beleefe yet I say it cannot bee denied that the Popes sworne seruants our sworne enemies there best witnesses and our worst accusers haue testified these things both against themselues and in behalfe of our doctrine howsoeuer they may be excused yet sure I am they are diuided amongst themselues consequently want another speciall marke of their Church which is vnity in points of Faith To take a short reuiew of our Aduersaries confessions touching the doctrine of Merits they haue confessed that our Iustification is by faith and Christ Iesus onely they haue confessed that there is no saluation nor assurance in our owne merits but in the mercie and merits of our alone Sauiour and in this confession they intimate the noueltie and vncertainetie of their owne doctrine and in this likewise they acknowledge the antiquity and visibility of our Church long before Luthers daies Touching Transubstātiatiō they haue confessed there is no expresse place of scripture to proue the word nor the meaning of the word they haue confessed the conuersion of the bread into Christs body Antè Lateranēse Concilium non fuit dogma fides Scotus in 4. sentent c. 11. ●3 was not generally receiued by the Fathers they haue confessed before the Councell of Lateran it was not reeeiued for an Article of beleefe In these confessions they plainely intimate the noueltie and vncertaintie of their owne doctrine and by these likewise they acknowledge the antiquity and Visibility of our Church long before Luthers daies Touching Priuate Masse they confessed it was not vsed in the Ancient Church for say they the communion of Priests and people together was practised by the Fathers In this confession they intimate the Noueltie of their Religion and in this they acknowledge the antiquity and Visibility of our Church long before Luthers daies Touching the Seuen Sacraments they confesse the definite and certaine number of Seuen was vnknowne to Scriptures and Fathers they confesse that some of those Sacraments were not instituted by Christ they confesse that all of them are not true and proper Sacraments of the new Law all which on the contrarie are commanded by their Church to bee beleeued vpon a Curse and in these confessions they argue the Noueltie and vncertaintie of their doctrine and in this they acknowledge the antiquitie and Visibilitie of our Church long before Luthers daies Touching the Communion in one kinde they confessed that it was not practised by the Apostles nor the ancient Church for say they Christ did institute in both kinds and the Primitiue Fathers did continue it in both kinds In this confession they intimate the noueltie and vncertaintie of their owne doctrine in this they acknowledge the antiquitie and visibilitie of our Church long before Luthers dayes Touching
prayer in an vnknowne tongue they confessed it was not vsed in the Primitiue antient Church but say they the prayer and seruice was vsually taught in the vulgar and knowne tongue In this confession they intimate the noueltie and vncertaintie of their owne doctrine and in this acknowledgement they witnesse the antiquitie and visibilitie of our Church long before Luthers dayes Touching Adoration of Images they confessed that there is no expresse place of Scripture that commands their worship they confessed there is no example amongst the Fathers for their adoration but rather against them and in these confessions they intimate the noueltie and vncertaintie of their owne doctrine and practise and in our worshipping of God in spirit and truth they acknowledge the antiquitie of our Religion and the visibilitie of our Church long before Luthers dayes Lastly touching Indulgences and Pardons they confessed that their Indulgences now vsed haue no authoritie from Scriptures or Fathers and in this confession they intimate the noueltie and vncertaintie of their owne doctrine and consequently the Indulgences which wee vse for no other end then the mitigation and relaxation of punishment to haue had antiquitie and visibilitie in the Church long before Luthers dayes If these witnesses had been ignorant or excommunicate persons in their owne Church or had they witnessed the truth in ceremonies and things doubtfull there might bee some plea why their testimonies should not be admitted but when the points in question are Articles of their owne Creed when they are witnessed by Popes by Councels by Cardinals by Bishops by learned Doctors and Schoolemen in their owne Church in our behalfe and against their owne Tenets I see no cause why I should not demand iudgement in defence of our Church and triall of our cause It is the law of God and man Ex ore tuo I will iudge thee out of thine owne mouth and from this decree and their owne confessions vpon record I call men and Angels to witnesse that they haue denyed antiquitie and vniuersality to the Articles of their own Creed and haue resolued the grand question touching our Church before Luther that it was in Christ in the Apostles in the Fathers in the bosome of the Ancient Church long before Luthers dayes Sect. 10. The Testimonies of our Aduersaries touching the infallible certaintie of the Protestant faith and the vncertaintie of the Romish OF what strength and force is truth it appeares by this that she extorts a full and ample testimony of her doctrine from her sworne enemies and yet for further proofe of our cause I will giue another summons to the prime men euen of their grand Inquest who without partialitie will testifie in our behalfe that our Church is built vpon a more stable and sure foundation then the Papacie and that our doctrine is more fruitfull and profitable and euery way more safe and comfortable for the beleefe of euery Christian and the saluation of the beleeuer Touching the certaintie of faith it is Bellarmines confession Bellar. de Jnstit lib. 3. cap. 8. None can be certaine of the certaintie of faith that hee doth receiue a true Sacrament for as much as the Sacrament cannot be made without the intention of the Minister and none can see another mans intention This confession being layed for a positiue ground of their Religion the Church of Rome hath ouer throwne in one Tenet all certaintie of true faith To begin with the Sacrament of Baptisme If the Priests intention faile by their doctrine the Insant is not baptized he is but as a Heathen out of the Church and consequently in the state of damnation Looke vpon their Sacrament of Orders it is the confession of learned Bellar mine Bellar. de Milit Eccles ca. 10. ad secundum If we consider in Bishops their power of Ordination and Iurisdiction we haue no more then a Morall certaintie that they are true Bishops and there he giues the reason for it Because the Sacrament of Orders depends vpon the Intention of the ordeiner Looke vpon the Sacrament of Matrimony and of this there is no certaintie because it doth depend vpon the Intention of the Minister and if he faile in his Intention at the time of solemnization the married people liue all their dayes in adulterie so that by their owne confession there is no certaintie of Christianitie by Baptisme no certaintie of their Sacrament of Orders and consequently no certaintie of succession in person which they so much magnifie in their Church besides if in the whole succession of Popes and Pastors the Intention of any one Priest did faile either in Baptisme or in Orders all succeeding generations that ordaine and consecrate both Priest and people are become vtterly voide and of none effect He that is bound vpon a curse to beleeue seuen Sacraments and yet is not certaine of any one must be saued by an implicit faith and yet it is to be feared for want of their Priests intention the poore ignorant soule doth sometimes worship a peece of bread because the consecration of Christs body depends say they vpon the intention of the Priest and no man doth know another mans intention Againe touching their Inuocation of Saints they are vncertain whether the Saints do heare their prayers they are vncertaine whether some they pray vnto be Saints in heauen or Diuels in hell Touching the first Biel. in C●n. Missae Lect. 28. Pet. Lomb. Senten lib. 4. dist 45. It is not certaine saith Biel but it may seeme probable that God reuealeth vnto Saints all those suits which men present vnto them and saith Peter Lombard It is not incredible that the soules of Saints heare the prayers of the suppliants Here is nothing but probabilitie and vncertaintie and yet admit it were more then probable that they did heare our prayers yet there is no certaintie that al such are Saints which are canonized by the Romane Church Accedit quod miracula quae ab Ecclesiae suscipiuntur in Canonizationibus sanctorum quae tamen maximè authentica sunt cum humano testimonio innitantur non omnino certa sunt quoniā c. Caret in epusc de concep Virg. Mar. ca. 1. Fidei Christianae certitudo non humano mor● certa esse debet sed infallibile omnino debet habere testimonium Caret ibid. It cannot be knowne infallibly saith Caietan that the miracles whereon the Church groundeth the Canonization of Saints bee true by reason the credit thereof depends on the reports of men who may deceiue others and bee deceiued themselues And vpon this vncertaintie Saint Austin complained in his dayes That many were tormented with the diuell who were worshipped by men on earth Whose reason and authoritie was so vndoubtedly true Bellar. de sanct Beat. lib. 1. c. 9. that Bellarmine had no way to auoide it but with a Fortasse c. Peraduenture saith he it is none of Austins and yet if Bellarmines answer were true which is but
Editione expunctus est docuit seclusa Ecclesi●e authoritate Verba illa Hoc est corpus meum ad veritatem hanc confirmandā non sufficere Suarez Tom. 3. disp 46. §. Tertio the words This is my body doe not sufficiently prooue Transubstantiation what saith Paul the fift to this Deleatur let that passage be no more printed amongst Caietans workes Vdalricus Bishop of Augusta writes a whole Epistle touching the lawfulnesse of Priests marriage what say the Romanists to this Deleatur let that whole Epistle bee blotted out Bertram wrote a booke of the body blood of Christ opposite to the doctrine of Transubstantiation what say the Inquisitors to this Jud. Gaspar Quir●ga fol. 149. Jdem Ibidē Totus liber penitus auferatur away with that whole booke Anselme or the author of the booke for baptizing and visiting the sicke saith Doest thou beleeue that our Lord Iesus Christ died for our saluation and that there is no means to be saued by our own merits Quiroga p. 149. Sandoual Roxas Anno 1612. what say the Inquisitors to this Deleatur let it not be spoken at the visitation of the sicke Cassan in Hymnis Eccl. p. 179. vt Cypr. Miserecordiam adeptus sum i. e. Miserecordiam merui Annotatio illa de vocabulo Merendi tota Deleatur Ind. Expurg Belg. p. 25. The word Merit saith Cassander amongst the Ancients is almost the same as to obtaine what say the Inquisitors to this doctrine Deleatur let that obseruation of the word Merit bee cleane strucken out Polydore Virgil saith almost all the Ancient Fathers condemned Images for feare of Idolatrie what say the Romanists to this doctrine Deleatur from the beginning of that Chapter to the leafe Index librorum Prohibitorum pag. 725. Lex per praesentes c. let it be blotted out Langus saith the substance of bread and wine remaine after Consecration what say the Inquisitors to this doctrine Deleatur Ind. Expurg Belg. fol. 70. from the pag. 179. to the pag. 199. let all bee blotted out Ferus saith Ridiculum est It is ridiculous that some will haue Cephas for the head In their latter edition printed at Rome 1577. they haue left out the words Ridiculum est and say some will haue Cephas for the Head Non oportet Christianos Ecclesia Dei derelictâ abire atque Angelos nominare Concil Laodic can 35. Binius Non oportet Christianos derelictâ Ecclesia Dei abire ad Angulos Merlin fol. 68. edit 1530. Crabbe fol. 226 edit Anno 1538 Lastly the ancient Councell of Laodicea decreed Anno 368. Wee ought not to leaue the Church of God and inuocate Angels In the same Councell published by Merlin and Crabbe by transmutation of a letter we are taught to say Wee ought not to leaue the Church of God and haue recourse to Angles or corners and thus are Angeli become Anguli Angels are become Angles or blinde corners least so faire an euidence of an ancient Councell should be produced against Inuocation of Angels But what these men haue gained by purging and razing of true Euidences their late Diuinity Reader at Louaine will giue his fellow Romanists a good account After I was appointed saith he to put in execution the tyrannicall decree of the Inquisitors Sed ô incredibilis in me Dei opt max. beneficentia post quā expurgatorij Indicis quem tyrannisante Albano Benedictus Arias Montanu●in piorū vircrum lucubrationes iniurias conceperat exequutor inter primos factus sexcentas cōtrà falsa doctrinae Pontificiae capita c. Henricus Boxhornius li. 3. de Euch. li. 3 Riuet c. 12. pag. 89. and had noted sixe hundred seuerall passages to bee spunged and blotted out which animaduersions of mine I wished I could haue washed away with my teares and bloud my heart at length being smitten and mine eyes opened by the mercie of my God I plainely perceiued abhomination in the Papacie an Idoll in the Temple Tyrannie in the commonwealth poyson and infection in Religion And thus this learned professor sometimes a votarie to the Church of Rome from the obseruation of those purging Indices makes protestation against their practises withal became a true conuert to the Protestant faith Sect. 14. Our Aduersaries conuicted of their defence of a desperate cause by their blasphemous exception against the Scripture it selfe VVHen therfore we see with the Louanian Doctor poyson in their Religion and tirannie in their common-wealth when we apparantly discerne the Abhomination of desolation stand in the holy place Mat. 24. let vs flie saith Chrysostome to the mountaines of the Scriptures But can any man be persuaded that these men after their purging and condemning all sorts of writers will at last come to the triall of the Scriptures Are we not all eye witnesses that Christ and his Apostles are called in question at the Popes Assises and there arraigned and condemned of obscuritie insufficiency in their Gospel Is not the sacred Bible ranked inter libros prohibitos Causabons answer to the Ep. of C. Peron pa. 38. hath it not the first place in the Catalogue of books prohibited doth not their owne Agrippa proclaime it to the shame of his own religion that the Inquisitors deale most cruelly with the Protestants concerning their triall by the Scriptures Agrippa de Vanit Scien c. ●6 For saith hee If the partie examined shall offer to proue his opinion by Scriptures then with swelling and angrie countenance they tell him that he is not now to deale with schollers in their Schooles but with Iudges before their Tribunall and therefore hee must answer directly whether hee will stand to the decrees of the Romane Church or not If hee refuse then they conclude saying they are not to dispute with him by arguments and Scriptures but with fire and faggot Now can any man imagine why these men should bee so angrie with Christ and his Apostles can they say the word of God is mutable and vncertaine or can they say it is subiect vnto alteration and neede an Index Expurgatorius No surely these are but peccadilioes small faults which are incident to Fathers Schoolemen and the Polemicall Authors of these times but you shall heare them speake in their owne sense a Caracteres mortui wherin they abound for I tremble to speake it a Lindan l. 3 Stroncatum c. 2. c. 6. b Littera mortua occidens The Scriptures say they are dead Characters a dead and killing letter b Idem Panopl l. 1. c. 22. without life c Muta inanis quae nec sentit nec intelligit which neither knowes nor vnderstands a meere shell without a kernell a nose of waxe a delphich sword c Idē l. 5. c. 4. d Merum putamen sine nucleo a leaden rule a shoe fit for any foot Sybillas prophecies d Idem lib. 1. c. 6. Sphinx his riddles e Nasus cerous and matter
Touching faith and good workes it is Bellarmines confession Bell. de Justif l. 3. c. 6. The Protestants doe not deny but that faith and repentance are requisite that is a liuely faith and an earnest repentance and that without them no man can be iustified Lastly touching Iustification by faith onely it is Bellarmines confession Idem l. 5. c. 7. For feare of vaine glorie and by reason of the vncertaintie of our workes Tutissimum it is the safest way to relie wholly on the mercy of God I begge not of our Aduersaries the points in question betwixt vs but I wonder rather why they should send out such Anathemas and curses against all or any of those that denie their doctrine when as their best learned confesse that many principall points of their owne Religion yea many Articles of faith are neither ancient safe nor Catholike It is not the name of Catholique which they assume that makes good the Catholique doctrine neither is it the opinion of the great learning or the multitude on that side which must out face the truth for our Sauiour Christ doth especially note the members of his body by the name of a Little flocke Feare not little flocke Luk. 12.32 as if the paucitie of true beleeuers were the speciall Caracter of the true Church and as for the learned on that side You see your calling brethren saith the Apostle Not many wise men after the flesh 1. Cor. 1. 26. not many mightie not many noble are called And if our aduersaries list to assume all learning and knowledge vnto themselues I enuie not their great wisedome but I rather admire with wonder and pitie Mat. 11.25 and I thanke thee O Father Lord of heauen and earth because thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent and hast reuealed them vnto babes And if our aduersaries please to reflect vpon their owne Religion they shall find likewise that the principall markes of the Romane Church were discouered and foretold long since by Christ and his Apostles that it should bee after the working of Sathan with all power and signes and lying wonders and wee know such miracles are the special caracters of the Roman Church The Spirit of God foresaw that their doctrine would consist in forginges not onely of Fathers of Councels of Schoolemen but of daily miracles in their Church and for this deceiueablenesse of vnrighteousnesse because they receiued not the loue of truth that they might be saued their iudgement was foretold and is now accomplished 2. Thess 2.11 God shall send them strong delusions and they shall beleeue lyes I list not to insist vpon such feyned miracles wrought either by their Priests or by their companions for lucre sake Aliquandò in Ecclesia fit maxima deceptio populi in miraculu fictis in Sacerdotibus Nich. Lyra in Dan. ca. 14. It is sufficient that their owne Schoolemen confesse it but I professe with Austin As they were necessarie before the world beleeued to induce it to beleeue so hee that seeketh to be confirmed by wonders now is to be wondred as most of all himselfe in refusing to beleeue what all the world beleeues besides himselfe Sect. 16. Our Aduersaries obiection drawne from the Testimomonies of pretended Martyrs of their Religion answered BVt obserue the cunning and policie of these men they are not contented to claime an interest in all ancient and orthodoxe Authors in behalfe of their Church but they would seeme to confirme the truth of their doctrine by the sufferings of Saints and testimonies of holy Martyrs Camp Rat. 10 Let vs ascend into Heauen by imagination saith Campian and there we shall find such as through martyrdome are as ruddie as the Rose and also such as for their innocencie while they liued do glister as beautifully as the white Lillies there may we see three and thirtie Bishops of Rome which for their faith were immediatly murdered one after another Thou shalt find that they liued here and dyed members of the Catholike Church I confesse the name of Martyrdome carries some shew in honor of the Church of Rome but the truth being weighed in the ballance of sinceritie it will appeare but a braggeful of froth vaine glorie for if those Martyrs and Bishops neither suffered for that faith at the time of their deaths nor in all their liues receiued that faith which is now published with Anathema to all them that beleeue it not surely those Saints and Martyrs will neuer bee found to haue liued and died members of their Church although they died Martyrs in the ancient Romane Church Let vs examine some particulars did euer any Martyr die vpon confidence of his owne merits or dare any Romanist suffer death in iustification of his owne righteousnesse was there any of those three and thirtie Bishops canonized a Saint for his adoration giuen to Images Did euer any Martyr take it vpō his death or dare any Romish priest die vpon this confidence that he hath absolute power to remit sinnes to dispense with oaths to create in the Sacrament the Creator of heauen and earth Did euer any ancient Martyr teach that the Scripture was vnperfect without the helpe of Traditions or dare any Romanist take it vpon his death that all the vnwritten verities now taught and receiued in the Church of Rome are of equall authoritie with the Scripture Did euer any Martyr take it vpon his death or dare any Romish Priest die vpon confidence that the consecrated bread depending vpon the Intention of the Priest is the corporall and reall flesh of Christ It was the case of certaine Masse priests now or lately liuing and in particular of F. Garnet who beeing demanded whether if hee were to consecrate the Sacramēt that morning he should suffer death durst after consecration pronounce openly ouer the Cup B. Andrewes resp ad Apolog Bellar. ● 1 p. 7. If this wine in the Cup whose accidents you see bee not the very bloud of Christ which flowed from his side as he hung vpon the crosse let mee haue no part either in the bloud of Christ or with Christ hereafter F. Garnet as a man perplexed made answer It might iustly bee doubted neither did he conceiue that any one was bound rashly to endanger his saluation by assuming vpon his death that any Indiuiduall Priest at a time certaine did transubstantiat the bread into the bodie of Christ but peraduenture in generall and indefinitely saith he it may bee resolued that Transubstantiation is made Ab aliquo Alicubi Aliquandò By some Priest in some place at sometime And as concerning the Saints and Martyrs of the ancient Church it is vndoubtedly true that they could not die in that faith nor for that Religion which was altogether vnknowne to their Church The doctrine of Priuate Masse the Communion in one kinde the Prayer in an vnknowne tongue the works of Supererogation the peremptorie number of seuen Sacraments the power of
Indulgences the worship of Images and the like these are fundamentall points and most of them taught and receiued for Articles of faith yet by our Aduersaries manifold confessions were vnknowne to former ages and how those Bishops and Martyrs could suffer and die in that faith which was not receiued in the ancient Church is a misterie vnsearchable and a Martyrdome past finding out Thus our aduersaries haue compassed sea land and by Imagination ascended into Heauen to seeke for members of their Church yet their doctrine of faith which they claime from the Primitiue Church is but an Imaginary faith their Martyrs which they challenge and assume into the Catalogue of those Saints are but Imaginarie persons their Miracles which they so much magnifie are but Imaginarie and false and lastly the Heauen which they claime as a common appendant to their Church is the Iesuites heauen but by Imagination Sect. 17. Our Aduersaries common obiection drawne from the charitable opinion of Protestans touching the saluation of professed Romanists liuing and dying in their Church Answered I come to the last and greatest wonder The Romanists haue confessed that their doctrine is different from the Ancient Church in many principall points of their faith yet say they there is no saluation to be had but in the Romane Church Fieri nequit vt Lutheranus moriens saluetur Coster resp ad refut Osiandr propos 8. No saith Costerus Fieri nequit c. It cannot be that any dying a Lutheran can be saued No doubt there is a woman a Church a Cittie which reigneth ouer the Kings of the earth which sitteth on seuen Mountaines which is drunke with the bloud of Saints and Martyrs which hath multitudes and Nations and tongues at her command and if this bee the Lutheran Church or any of the Reformed Churches questionlesse there is damnation to be feared for it was foretold She ascends out of the bottomelesse pit Reuel 17. and shall goe into perdition but blessed be God their markes cannot bee applied to our Church wee haue no Bishop that assumes a supremacie ouer Kings and Princes Wee haue no Massacres of Saints faithfull Christians in our Kingdome no we haue no Citie built on seuen hills which is called the seuen hill'd Citie 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 we account not vniuersalitie of nations and people a marke of our Church but we say it is a little flocke and the number of Gods Elect are but few I will descend to the particular Tenets of both Churches and in this I shall appeale to any moderate Romanist whether they or we for the faith professed in their Church or ours stand guilty of damnation Are we accursed because we disclaime all merits in our best workes and relie wholy vpon the merits of Christ Blessed are all they that put their trust in him not in their owne righteousnesse saith the Prophet Dauid Psal 2.12 Are we accursed because according to Christs institution wee receiue the Sacrament in both kinds He that eateth my flesh and drinketh my bloud Ioh. 6. hath life eternall saith our Sauiour Are we accursed because we search the Scriptures we reade them to our Family wee meditate on them day and night Psal 1.2 Blessed are they whose delight is in the Law of the Lord and in his Law will exercise himselfe day night saith the Psalmist Againe looke vpon the Tenets of the Romane Church and let the Word of God bee Iudge betweene them and vs whether they or wee are in the more safe and blessed way Are they blessed that make distinction of meates forbid marriage to Priests Be not high minded but feare Forbidding of marriage and meates is the doctrine of Diuels 1 Tim. 4. Are they blessed that administer the Sacrament and Seruice in an vnknowne tongue 1 Cor. 14. It was a curse at the building of Babel for them that vnderstood not what was spoken In the Law it is written with men of other tongues and other lips will I speake vnto this people and so they shall not heare mee saith the Apostle Are they blessed that contrarie to the Law of God giue adoration to Images Confounded bee all they that worship carued Images saith the Prophet Dauid Psal 97.7 Are they blessed that giue adoration to Saints to the creatures of bread and wine Rom. 1.28 They that worship the creature instead of the Creator God giues them ouer to a reprobate mind and they are accursed Are they blessed that adde new Traditions to the Scriptures and detract from Gods commandements Christs Institution in the Sacrament Reuel 22. Cursed be hee that addeth or detracteth from the least of these sayings saith the Euangelist Are they blessed that create new Articles of faith praeterquam or contra quā besides or contrary to the doctrine of the Scriptures Gal. 1.8 If an Angel from heauen preach any other Gospell then that you haue receiued let him bee accursed From these sew instances it may easilie appeare whether they are damned which beleeue and receiue that faith which was taught by Christ and his Apostles or they blessed which obey the Trent-Fathers and their doctrine which is condemned by the Apostles and Fathers of the Primitiue Church But obserue the wisedome and pollicie of these men they know the ignorant people of their Church their speciall care is to keepe all in ignorance would be easily led by an implicit faith to beleeue the Church in all if they were once possessed with some generall Rule that they were in the safe and certine way of Saluatiō in their owne Church and thereupon from the charitable opinion of well disposed Protestants they haue drawne this generall Conclusion Wee see the Protestants at least many of them confesse there may be saluatiō in our Church wee absolutely deny there may be saluation in theirs therefore it is safer to come to ours then to stay in theirs to bee where almost all grant saluation then where the greatest part of the world denie it Surely it were great pittie that a charitable opinion on our part should giue any Romanist occasion the rather to liue and die in the bosome of the Romane Church whereas wee should rather giue them a warning in the name of the Apostle Reuel 18.4 Come out of her my people that you bee not partaker of her plagues but it were more then shame for them to adiudge our religion therefore the worse because wee are more charitable when wee say a Papist may be saued it is meant onely as I conceiue of those who by an inuincible and compelled ignorance resigne vp their owne eye-sight to looke through such spectacles as their Priests and Pastors haue tempered for them these men so long as they hold fast the true faith of Christ according to the Articles of the Apostolique and Christian beleefe without oppositiō to any ground of Religion and haue furthermore a minde and purpose to obey God
and keepe his commandements according to that measure and knowledge of Grace which they haue receiued and liue for outward things in the Vnitie of the Church where they dwell such men I say otherwise morallie good and relying wholy on the merits and sole mercie of Christ Iesus that is liuing Papists and dying Protestāts in the principall foundation of our faith may finde mercy because they did it ignorantly 1 Tim. 1.14 This is the best construction charitie can afford them and yet this is no certainty but a bare possibilitie They may be saued I must confesse I doe encline to the charitable opinion of euery poore ignorant soule for what haue I to doe to iudge another mans seruant seeing hee standeth or falleth to his owne Master but I take God and his holy Angels to witnesse that had I ten thousand soules I would not aduenture one of them in the Romane faith and the Romane Church for howsoeuer I will not I dare not pronounce damnation vpon their persons as they doe on ours yet I will proclaime confidently and openly to all the world that their doctrine is damnable Farre be it from the thoughts of good men to thinke the points in controuersie betwixt them and vs are of an inferior alloy that a man may resolue this way or that way without perill of hu saluation The fresh bleeding wounds and sufferings of holy men blessed Martyrs in our church doe sufficientlie witnes the great danger in their Religion and the difference betwixt vs and that you may yet further know the best learned of our Church were farre from granting saluation to any Papist liuing and dying a professed Papist in the knowledge and beliefe of the present Romane faith our Reuerend Whitakers sends this summons to the great Champion of the Roman Church Whit. Cāp Rat. 10. Suruey heauen it selfe and all the heauenly host looke well into all the parts and coasts of it whilest you list you shall not finde there vpon my word one Iesuit or one Papist for none shall stand in Mount Sion with the Lambe that haue receiued the marke of the Beast or belong to Antichrist Sect. 18. Prouing according to the Title of the booke by the confession of all sides that the Protestants Religion is safer because in all positiue points of our doctrine the Romanists themselues agree with vs but in their additions they stand single by themselues BVt admit the Protestants should allow a possibility of saluation to all beleeuing Christians in the bosome of the Roman Church which neuer yet was granted what doe our aduersaries inferre from hence Therefore say they It is the safer way to persist in that Church where both sides agree then where one part stands single in opinion by themselues Now surely if that be the safer way wherein differing parties agree both in one I will ioyne issue with them in this very point and if in this I make not good the Title of my book that wee are therefore in the safer way because they agree in the principall points of Controuersie with our doctrine I will reconcile my selfe to the Romane Church and creepe of all foure to his Holinesse for a pardon First then we say there is a Heauen and a Hell It is true say they but there is a Purgatory there is a Limbus Infantum also In the first part they ioyne with vs in the latter they stand single by themselues And that is the safer way where both sides agree We say we shall be saued by the Merits and satisfactions of Christ Iesus It is true say they but there are likewise merits of Saints and satisfactions of our owne helpfull and necessarie to saluation In the first part they ioyne with vs in the latter they stand single by themselues And that is the safer way where both sides agree Wee say the Sacrament of Baptisme and the Eucharist are two proper Sacraments instituted by Christ it is true say they but there are fiue more to bee receiued as true and proper Sacraments de fide for an Article of beleefe The first two they confesse with vs in the latter fiue they stand single by themselues And that is the safer way where both sides agree Wee say that Images of Christ and his Saints are ornaments and memorials of the absent and may in some Cases serue for Historie It is true say they but there is also worship and veneration due vnto them In the first part they agree with vs in the latter they stand single by themselues And that is the safer way where both sides agree We say with the Euangelist Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God and him onely shalt thou serue It is true say they but there bee Saints and Angels also that must be inuocated and adored In the first part they ioyne with vs in the latter they stand single by themselues And that is the safer way where both sides agree We say that Christ is the Mediator and Intercessour betwixt God and Man It is true say they but the Saints and Angels are our Intercessors and Mediators also In the first part they ioyne with vs in the latter they stand single by themselues that is the safer way where both sides agree We say that Christ is the Head and Monarch of the Church it is true say they but there is likewise another visible Head of the Church which is the Pope In the first part they ioyne with vs in the latter they stand single by themselues And that is the safer way where both sides agree We say that Peter had a Primacie of order that is a First-ship among the Apostles It is true say they but withall he had a supremacie of power and Iurisdiction In the first place they ioyne with vs in the latter they stand single by themselues And that is the safer way where both sides agree We say there are 22. books of Canonicall Scripture It is true say they but there are other bookes also as namely To bit Iudith the Machabees c. that are Canonicall In the first part they approue all that we hold in the latter they stand single by themselues And that is the safer way where both sides agree Wee say the Scripture is the Rule of faith It is true say they but there are Traditions likewise and vnwritten verities that must bee added to the Scriptures In the first they ioyne with vs in the latter they stand single by themselues And that is the safer way where both sides agree Lastly we say there are 12. Articles of the Creed and this is the Tenet and confession of all Christian Churches It is true say they but their are 12. Articles more published by Pope Pius the Fourth to be receiued of all men In the first place they confesse all that we hold in the latter they stand single by themselues And that is the safer way by our aduersaries confession where both sides agree Thus by the ample testimonies of the best learned in the Romane Church there is nothing taught by the Protestants de fide for matter of faith which the Church of God hath not alwaies held necessarie to bee beleeued nothing but that which alone is sufficient for euerie Christian man to know concerning his saluation nothing but that which is confessed by our aduersaries to bee safe and profitable for all beleeuers nothing but that wherewith the writings of all antiquitie are consonant and all Christian confessions agreeable Now since I haue brought you into Via tuta the safe Way Christus est Via veritas I will briefly commend vnto you Christ and his Apostles for your Leaders the Ancient Fathers for your Associates and Assistants and the blessed Spirit for your guide and conduct in your safe Way There are other passengers viz. Cardinals and Bishops and Schoolemen which doe accompanie you part of your way but they are strangers and therfore be warie of them and by way of preuention Ier. 6.16 Stand in the waies and see and aske for the old pathes where is the good way and yee shall finde rest for your soules Δόξα τῶ Θεῶ FINIS Errata Page 17. line 19. for her reade the. p. 27. l. 20. for Royall r reall p. 34 l 5. for Germ r. Iohannes Baptista Vergerius p 35 l. ●5 for in r. into p. 36. l. 6. for the power r. the abused power p. 44 l. 12. for hic r hûc p. 47. l. ●6 for foundation adde or openly disturbed the Church p. 66. l. 9. for succession best succession from heretiques or at best from an improbable example of the Nazarites p. 67. l 13. in Sacerdotibus c. as an vncleane Act. adde in Marg. August●● 74. p. 75. l. 20. for Apostolicall r. Apochryphall p. 93. l. 11. for comming r cunning p. 99. l 13. dele our p. 125. l. 5. for prosued r. pursued p. 160 l. 10. woman adde ●ate on a Beast which had p. 192. for Edward r. Edwin p. 37. l. 16. for Diuels r. damned with Diuels p. 248. l. 2. for Apostle r. Euangelist p. 275. l. 17. cita Ferum in cap. 1 Jo. Mogu● 1550. p. 34.