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A91933	Diapoliteia. A Christian concertation with Mr. Prin, Mr. Baxter, Mr. Harrington, for the true cause of the Commonvvealth. Or, An answer to Mr. Prin's (perditory) anatomy of the Republick, and his true and perfect narrative, &c. To Mr. Baxter's (purgatory) pills for the Army: and his wounding answer to the healing question. With some soft reflections upon his Catholick (or rather Cathulactick) key; and an examen of the late petition of the sixth of July to this Parliament. In all which we have a most necessary vindication of the cause; of the honourable persons now in Parliament and Council, from the venome and vilification of their pens. By Joh. Rogers, thorugh grace kept (under many sufferings) a faithful servant to Jesus Christ, his cause and the Commonwealth.	Rogers, John, 1627-1665?	1659 (1659)	Wing R1806; Thomason E995_25; ESTC R207812	125,898	138

then himself according to his own Characters of them in his Treatise 3. From his own Grounds of Communion he is an 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 or condemned of himself for his uncharitable censoriousness upon Sir Hen. Vane and those he calls Sectaries c. p. 440 441. Where peace and holiness may be carried on together there unity and peace must be sought as a means to holiness these are his own but amongst them that he calls Sectaries peace and holiness may be carried on together so p. 441. Hence it is saith he that wicked livers do turn Papists But those that I know who lie under his merciless Lash are not wicked Livers but very excellent examples many of them of Peace and Holiness and particularly for Sir H. V. his virtuous Lady and godly Family of any that I know in the World of that quality though I hear the like of others as of my Lord Fleetwoods c. they may be called in themselves as once was the Family of George Prince of Anhalt an Ecclesia Curia and Academia a Church a Court and an University of the highest best and most Liberal Sciences that appertain to men or to Christians Mr. B. in p. 442. saith further 442. It is but a carnal stir that Papists and some Reconcilers make to have unity so general as shall take in the most impious Rabble therefore in some cases we are called to seperate And yet because of a separation from those that are so impious or are such reconcilers must the poor sectary be branded by himself and his followers for Masked Papists 4. From his own detection of Masked Papists p. 343. he may be convinced of the horrid liberty that he hath taken to traduce his own words are The Jugling Papists may be known by this that they are alwaies LOOSENING people from Religion and LEADING them into a dislike of what they have been taught But Sir H. Vane is far from being within this Character I have heard him often open apply the precious Scriptures to my great Comfort and to the best of my judgement who have been 14. or 15. years in the Publick but sweet labour of the Gospel with sweat and swinck day and night with prayers tears watching thereunto I do profess I never could perceive his Doctrine for LOOSENING but ever for FASTNING the people of God in pure RELIGION and undefiled and yet I have heard with prejudice enough too upon reports of others till I was convinced of my errour his constant scope is to the power and principles of godliness to fix us in the everlasting holiness under the benefit of the Mediatory Covenant and in the benefits of the Covenant of Grace electing and Eternal Love LEADING them or rather the Lord by his Spirit into the most holy and optable relish of what they have been taught of that nature Expressing himself so clearly soundly and discriminatively in the principles of the New-creature or Regeneration from the common mistakes of men that rest in a meer Reformation outward Purification or a first-Adam-renovation and so shewing the difference between a Christian per saltum and per altum as profitably as ever I heard Also upon the points of justification and Perseverance and that it is the first Adam and first Covenant-spirit which is the subject of falling away and upon Sanctification the life of Christ the Mediatorship of Christ and all his Offices also upon the excellency certainty and felicity of COMMUNION with God and acquaintance by Jesus Christ c. and are these loosening Doctrines I do verily believe had Mr. B. but heard him as I and others have done in Carisbrook C. and elsewhere he would have said incomparably more for him not only then I do but then he either doth or can say against him yea have blessed the Lord for him more abundantly and have wept at this incogitancy such charity I have for him with a Laconian Country-man saying 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 I am not the cause but my nature or as the APOSTLE It is no longer I but sin that dwelleth in me which breaks out thus at lips and in my lines with spots like leprosie unclean unclean and in the mean time we need no more then his own Argument in p. 119. They that are sanctified justified have the love of God in them are members of the TRVE CHVRCH 5. Mr. B. himself proves them in the true Religion in opposition to the Papists thus p. 118. That Religion which has all the essentials of Christianity is the true Religion Now let him name any one essential of Christianity if he can that Sir H. V. or those that he calls Sectaries Vanists c. do not hold and lay aside for shame those Boyish fansies and youthful tricks to play with mens Names and Reputations so and as if he were but at Hat-farthing he hath found out a company of Hiders too for so he calls them to play with and though the Question be between him and them who Hide first yet he calls for the Magistrate to help him to play his GAME over the Consciences of his brethren and to thrip up a CROSSE or a PILE upon them as upon the HIDERS or he 'll wrangle for it he is resolved and so tells us before-hand 6. From his very Description of the Seekers as to their work saith he p. 331. The Papists work by the Seekers is to take us from all or from our former Religion But those Gentlemen so unjustly accused and calumniated by Mr. B. are not taken off from all Religion he knows Do they not preach pray expound meet confer together and wait upon the Lord in publick in private and often in a week in the use of his holy Ordinances and doth Mr. B. more Besides he goes beyond all bounds of Logick or reasoning both in his Definitions Propositions and Descriptions of things or Persons as particularly in this where there is not an adaption reciprocal of the Description to the described and to make this a mark either of Seeker or of Papist viz. the taking us off of our former Religion is to lay the charge rather upon them that took us and our fathers off from Popery which was the former Religion or us off from Episcopacy which was our former Discipline then upon the Seekers And so indeed is he pleading for the Papists not against them 7. From his own Conc●ssion p. 293. That true PROTESTANTS are no more a Sect then the Patients in an Hospital who are almost healed or then the higher forme of Scholars in a School but still acknowledge them of the lowest forme even them that learn the A. B. C. in the same School If these be true Protestants and not Papists then is Sir H. V. and so those worthy Gent. farther off from that wicked impeachment then any I know of so large healing comprehensive and condescending to the least and lowest formes

that the Secluded Members had a right to sit in this Parliament Mr. P. no Artist in Anatomy Hip. lib. 1. de offic Medici Secluded Members Dissimilary parts at best Arist lib. 1. de Anima The Secluded Members how found in the true Anat. of the Commonwealth to be oblique 2 The were Secluded from the House of Commons or that part of the Kingdoms Parl. which is long since at an end Never members of the Parl. of the Common-wealth nor never had a right to sit in it as such 3. They were not the majority of the House that were Secluded 4. Their design is to destroy the commonw 5. It is denominated what Parl. is called to sit Dr. Featly Serm. p. 885. Mr. P. properly and in Law-sence guilty of the Felo de se Robinson on Gen. 49. p. 49. The Commonwealths strange recovery * Vide plain case of the Commonwealth c. Mr. B. Seconds Mr. P. in the same plea. Mr. B. holy Commonw His skill in Physick examined as well as P's in Anatomy 1. What Rules 1. What kinds of Humors are in the Common-wealth 2. What kinds of Means to cure them 3. With what Reasons M. B's Lenitives examined Mr. B's Corrosives examin'd in 's Preface to his Holy Commonwealth to the Army P. 23. l. 13. Hugh Peters and Mr. B. for the single Person and last Assembly as the best Governours Astringents or narrow spirits ill for the Commonwealth and now dangerous 4. Well and suitably applyed 2. Mr. Baxters evasion of the Gangrena and scandalum Magnatum P 4. of M. P's Cause stated and stunted 1. The occasion given to call his KEY for Cath. a Gangrena Most unreasonable and unreligious in the matter and forme of it against the Lord's servants Libro Apothegm de maledict Strange Vicissitude and inconstancy that the same hand which wrot the Saints Rest should write for the Saints RUINE Hos 7. 6 7. How a scandalum Magnatum Englands confusion c. The highest Dignitaries and Star of the Commonwealths Coelum Chrystallinum above their Cloudes Rom. 12. 21. Their Designs to cast a mist before our eyes and then to arise with Arms. Suttons serm Assize in 40. p. 14. An example for our States in Parliament and Council To provide against false reports Mr. B. by giving his example to scurrilous and scandalous pens is the more guilty He haps to pitch upon Sir H. Vane to pour out his venome upon 2 Cor. 10. 18. A vindication of Sir Hen Vane from his own worth and publick service Hor. l. 3. od 3. The very Heathens wont highly to commemorate such Reasons to think Mr. B. was set on by some enemies to the Commonwealth His Key for Cath. like to let more into Hell then into Heaven Who were blowing whiles M. B. was forging of this KEY is apparent and the Reason of his timing of it so The Author of this no otherwise concerned then for the truth and the Publick We must keep on our Worthies at the Publick and keep off others that would disturb or divert them if we be of the Life-guard His own writings may convince him of the wrongs done to Sir H. Vane 1. From his own description of a Protestant Sir H. V. a better Protestant then himself 2. From his own Description of a Papist S. H. V. less a Papist then himself 3 M. B. goes against his own grounds of Communion Sir H. V. Family for piety and virtue so exemplary that it may be esteemed a Church though not a Parish 4. From his own detection of Masked Papists Sir Hen. Vane none of them Sir H. V. Doctrine for strengthning and fastning the people of God and wherein 5. From his description of the true Religion Sir H. V. in it Mr. B. plays like a Boy at Hat-farthing with mens names and Reputations 6. From his Description of the Seekers c. Sir H. Vane none of them that he describes This part of the KEY came out of the Papists fire and is forged for their interest 7. From his own concession Sir Hen. Vane further off then himself from Popery Of the most comprehensiveness in Principles and Practic● and his Love to all Saints of no Sect or Party * A vindication of that prudent and honourable Knight Sir H. Vane from the Lies and Calumnies of Mr. R Bax. Gen. 49. 23 24. Whether M. B's or Mr. Popes Keys can do the Catholicks most good 3. Mr. B. in his milder and M. P. in his wilder Doses aim at one thing i. e. the KING Why the Secluded Members are not capable either of Conjunction or of Rejunction By no Rule neither after the first intention nor the second * Vide a Book of my penning and principles upon this subject called A Reviving WORD from the quick and the dead c. 2. Mr. P's Groundless asserting this Commonwealth to be the off-spring of Jesuites Little reason to take it for a child of Campanella Watson Parsons or the Jesuites 1. Campanella's Common-wealth was plotted for the interest of the King of Spain and so was not our's 2. As on different interests so on different grounds They never laid it both for England and Scotland but to keep up a deadly feud between them 3. Upon different Ends. If they plotted a Commonw yet not THIS Common-wealth 4. the Papist's were abortive in their plotts 5. They never intended it to abide so 2. Parson 's his Commonw not THIS Nor is it Watsons They drove on an Anarchy or Confusion not a Commonweal Reasons why our's cannot be their's 1. It could never have lain so long hid and not have stirred or appeared until now 2 It could never have suited with these times 1. Because that was to gratifie Papists in the Land this is not 2. Because in those days there was that Attraction so Retention of Popish seed as is not in these And the Popish womb is apparently a miscarrying womb in England 2. Their Common-wealth not from the same Principles of Generation 1. For Liberty and Rights both as men and as Christians Jesuites Commonw against Toleration and narrow in Civil Liberty 2. They never struck at the Office of Kingship but THIS struck at that and not at the Person so 3. They were not in the first Causes of this Common-wealth if they were of the confusion and Wars that went before it which I believe not 4. This Common-wealth hath not a Conformation of Parts with or indeed any Resemblance of such Parents 5. This Common-wealth is not of a Temper motion nature or nutriment like to Papists Commonw The Weak Grounds Mr. P. goes upon for evidence 1. From the advantage which the Jesuites took by the late Stateapostacy 2. From Owen Ro Oneal's and the K. of Spain's earely Agreement with this Commonw which was upon their own Account 3. From discharge of Allegiance to a Single Person and of the Engagement 4. From our Wars in Scoland in Defence of the Commonwealth Their sufferings no Argum this Commonw is of the

Jesuites Generation or Regeneration M. Prynn's merciless and unjust JURY excepted against nor is a Butcher or Mangler fit to judge in the Case 1. It 's the Jesuites Designe to render the Commonw odious by making us believe it THEIR'S This being the last shift they have left them Not but that a Godly Jealousie be had and search he made 2. It appears that Mr. P. his Brains have a most Spermatick faculty and Mr. B's Breasts have as Aphrogalaktick a faculty through his Mammarie Vein of maintaining K. Lords Commons and of condemning our Free-state which Vein of his we finde in the Claves as the Anatomists call them but Mr. B. his Clavis or KEY for Cath. 3. Mr. P's hard TRAVEL this 10. years in campanella's design 4. His writings dangerous these times to kindle or blow up Popular discontents All the good women are called to his Labour 5. It is a monstrous thing in Nature to make this a Plot of An. 1605. c. 6. All their Argument lies upon fallacies secundum quid or malae consequentiae or homonymiae Vincent lib. 25. c. 4. The Healing Author of the healing Quest hath taken the Leaves of the Tree of Life for the healing the Nations What is meant by HEALING M. B. quotes the Healing Quest in a Wounding unfaithful manner at first dash Natural Rights may be forfeited and lost The Healing Q. asserts the unforfeited Natural Right M. B's dark Lanthorne hath no lucid Answer to the Healing Quest Caution to the Army how they take Mr. B's tea Pills Mr. B's 1. Prop. Answ Right to Chuse Parl. part of the Cause This the K. kept the people from by his own Prerogative The History of it His 2. Prop. Answ It is granted that the Cause is not a Right to choose a House of Commons A fumitory Pill His 3. Prop. Ans It was the cause to preserve our Rights Exact Col. p. 464. Poly-pody-Pill His 4. Prop. Answ Another form of Government a necessary effect of the King 's waging War with the Parliament and People The King and Lords destroyed themselves and so the House of Commons 2. The old forme of K. L. and Com. an imposed forme 3. This form of Government fell in naturally and unavoidably upon dissolution of Kingly The Healing Quest a mark but he cannot hit it A pill of Aegrimony 5. Prop. Ans This is fully answered elsewhere all the Declar. and Engagements kept in their ends by this cause His 6. Prop. Answ The Author of the Healing Quest abused fallaciously quoted and as falsly accused He pleads especially for the adherents to the Cause but generally for all to whom Christ hath given and bought this Liberty M B leaves out a most material significant part of the same sentence What the Healing Quest proposes about the Magistrate that he would not impose upon tender Consciences Mr. B. corrupts and falsifies most shamefully Mr. B. argues not like a Christian with Sir H. Vane 2. Mr. B. argues not like a Logician It is as the Heal. Quest states it out of the Mag. power to impose Mass or any worship and this M. B. ought to prove like a fair opponent by Logick-Law This was in our Cause to keep up this liberty of Conscience in the worship of God His first Charge assoiled that this is not against Gods word but the contrary and his Scripture-examples examined His instance of Asa obviated and enervated That the Mag. hath no such Power in his Commis to impose is proved by abundance of Scriptures And by learned Authors with the Witness of Martyrs To his 2d Charge Of the evil of it That it tends to the Ruine of the Common-wealth but the contrary tendeth unto that * Mr. B's Holy Commonw Preface To his 3d Charge To his 4th Charge To his 5th Charge To his 6th Charge M. B. and Mr. Harrington for a National Rule over the Conscience To his 7th Charge To his 8th Charge To his 9th Charge To his 10th Charge To his 11th Charge Vide Reviving Word for Uniting all in one 12 To his last Charge of introducing Popery That Mr. B. is guilty of this Charge shall appear by the Jesuites of his own Quoting The grounds whereon M. B. is satisfied with the Papists 1. The Harmony or Proximity of Doctrines between them 2. The Condiscipulation and Charity b●tween them and th● like M. B's Proposals to the Papists 1. For personal Assemblies together 2. To have a Catholick Christian Communion together 3. To take one another for Christians and Churches of Christ 4. To agree together without hatred of one another 2 The power of the Magist in matters of Religion a Controversie of long standing Vid. Hor. li. 2. see Sat. 1. Med. so Drex on school of Patience pt 2 c. 1. s 4. Our hearty affections and readiness to serve the Magist in all his capacities and power and not to deprive him of any right due to him only desire that Christ may have but his right also The ingredients of this Pill are in part Jesuites powder and partly his own desire to persecute Mr. B's 7. Prop. or PILL for the Army Two Extreams wisely declined in the Healing Question 1. The meer Common-wealths-man as M. Har. principle 2. The rigid fifth Mon. man or that goes under that Name his Principle The scope and substance of both in the Healing Quest The equal Temperature of the Common-wealth wherein it doth consist this Rule did keep out Tarquin and must keep out C. Stuart 8. Grounds of hope that we shall have a holy Common-wealth under Christ the head who is the head of every man 1 Cor. 11. 3. as well as of the Church or of every Christian The most excellent VOTE of Parliament for it the Lord keep them to it Theocracy not so well with a Single Persons exercise of the Power of Soveraignty as with Judges as at first and Counsellours as at the beginning Isai 1. ●6 in Israel Christ is the absolute Soveraign but the people under him have a Supremacy That the People have a Supreme Power under Christ in this Government to give to their Deputies in trust so the Government is the Ordinance of Man 1 Pet. 13. 14. but as a Theocratick Government● or that wherein Magistrates are the Ministers of God for good so it is the Ordinance of God Rom. 13. 2 3. and wherein they are the Ministers of the whole Body for good so the Ordinance of man too Mr. B' s 7. Pill of Assa foetida Mr. B's 8. Prop. or Pill for the Army à scoriâ ferri Ans Conquest gives them the benefit and freedom of their Right 2. Conquest giv●s them a power over enemies from ruining them 3. Conquest ratifies and fortifies us in our Rights 4. Conquest keeps up a Right of distinction so long as the troubles hold Mr. B. and Mr. Harrington for an unequally Equal Common-wealth Mr. B's 9th Prop. or Pill for the Army The Healing Q. for the Inward Rule of Righteousness

man commendeth or that commendeth himself is approved but whom the Lord commendeth And the Lord justifies who shall condemn Isai 50. 8 9. Rom. 8. 33 34. Yet I think there be but few that are so malicious as to hate this Gentleman for his own sake but many indeed that are envious at him for our sakes and the Commonwealths In whose Memory and Posterity I nothing doubt but that his indefatigable endeavours and deserts from the Publick will out-live the most irrefragable anger of all his enemies or rather ours Justum Tenacem propositi Non civium ardor prava jubentium Non vultus instantis Tyranni Mente quatit solida neque Auster Dux inquieti turbidus Adriae Nec fulminantis magna Jovis manus si fractus illabatur orbis impavidum ferient ruinae was the song of the Heathen which I mention to our shame and not with much delight in reading Heathen Authors that we should be so ungrateful as not to commemorate in our minds at least the worth of such men as neither Turns nor Times Tyrants nor Tempests Troubles nor Thunderbolts that have rent the heavens crackt the clouds and split the very foundations could ever remove or slacken in their constancy to the cause and Commonwealth Now that Mr. B. who of any hath so little knowledge of this so honourable a person must be the man to abuse him or us rather with such black reports of him to the world and at such a TIME too wherein he was and is wholly taken up with that which he prefers above his daily food or I think his life viz. the service of the PUBLICK is an Argument sufficient that he went to the Philistimes to make and to whet his TOOLS because he could finde no SMITHS in Israel that could make such a KEY or a Key with such wretched Wards in it as I fear if the Lord prevent not will let more into Hell then into Heaven or happiness And whether some that were ingaged for the King or against the Cause Commonwealth and this Parliament did not prompt him to it or were the bellows of his forge to blow up the sparks of his discontent into such open flames and luculent firebrands of malignity is to me a Question almost out of Question if I look but into his Preface and see in the Margin of it how highly he extols the E. of Lauderdale as his helper in it Yea whether it were not designed and TIMED on purpose to perplex this person of honour as well as others in Parliament or to give them a Diversion from the PUBLICK into a private vindication of themselves and of their unblemished names had they thought it worthy and thereby to have left the House whiles the Adversaries should have carried all therein more without opposition for the interest of a single Person and against the Commonwealth or otherwise that these ulcerous defamations might pass uncontrouled spread further and further amongst the credulous vulgar upon their silence and want of leasure to rescue their reputations from such horrid impeachment But these Gentlemen perferring their Christian names above their Sir-names have left their innocence to the omniscience of God and the testimony of it to the Multiscience of us who know them without the least vacillation of their restored lustre whose wonderful constancy is a most worthy Antidote to the poison of the Pens and Parts of their enemies I am not for my own Part of any party sect nor faction nor am I of that number Mr. B. charges or covers with his blackest clouds of contumely Neither have I any mans person in admiration nor am I put on by any but the Lord and I hope his own Spirit for love of the truth and of the PUBLICK lest that should suffer by it to ward off such Cowards blows as come behind them so unworthily and bite them so unwarily whiles they are swallowed up in the insuperable necessities and inseparable affairs of the Publick Weale so as that without palpable injury thereunto they have neither leasure to minde nor make answer if they would without it be with the blessed Patience of Christ who opened not his mouth Isai 53. 7. in Sept. 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 he So opens not his mouth Who when he was reviled he reviled not again but committed himself to him that judgeth righteously 1 Pet. 2. 23. and with the commendable Patience of Pericles that could not be provoked by an Enemy but when one went railing upon him to his very door in the night he bid his man to light him home with his own TORCH and of another that said O! that these men could rule their tongues as well as we our ears their pens as we our spirits Now that it may appear to Mr. B. that he had need to be forgiven his traducing of them and his seducing of others as well as be redeemed from the great evils and temptations of BOTH I hope it will not be imputed presumption or unkindness if I present him for the present with a little tast from his own words of the notorious wrong that he hath done to that wise and worthy Knight with others And 1. from his own description of a Protestant though I think it a very Lame and defective one and not plena pari ratione saith he p. 130. It is a title that accrewed to our Religion from the PROTESTING AGAINST the Romish Innovations and corruptions If those that have protested against the Romish Innovations and corruptions be Protestants then these who in his vain eye and foolish fansie of Boys-play are called Vani are Protestants having protested as far as any Protestants that Mr. B. accounts Orthodox have done Yea further then ever Mr. Baxter himself did against Romish innovations which makes him so offended and therefore to use his own words in p. 393. Scarce a man that crosseth or displeaseth i. e. dissenteth from and disobeyeth the uncharitable Clergy but he is stigmatized for an Heretick and charged with almost as much wickedness as their mouths are wide enough to utter and the ears of other men to hear These out of his own Book whereby no man can absolve him of self-condemnation in the justification of this honourable person by his own pen. 2. From his Description of a Papist in p. 392. As soon as ever any man hath received this opinion of the necessity of an universal Visible Head of the whole Church he is either a Papist or of an opinion equivalent so a little after This Errour about the necessity of an universal visible head is the very thing that turneth most to Popery Now those that he calls SEEKERS and in a Satyrical Vane VANISTS Anabaptists Sectaries c. hold no universal visible head nor any other over the Church but Jesus Christ And therefore are not within the compass of his description of a Papist Nay are further off with his leave