Selected quad for the lemma: religion_n

Word A	Word B	Word C	Word D	Occurrence	Frequency Band	MI	MI Band	Prominent
religion_n	church_n	papist_n	protestant_n	3,430	5	8.0447	4	false

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ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A59540	A letter writ to an atheistical acquaintance upon his turning papist in his old age by a person of honour.	Shannon, Francis Boyle, Viscount, 1623-1699.	1691 (1691)	Wing S2964; ESTC R38232	15,643	30

it to be too short and defective by their adding twelve new Articles of Faith to it since 't is gross folly to add to a thing what one believes does not want any Addition And now I have given you a Lease of Popes against one Pope and four General Councils against one only pretended one for I can esteem that of Trent no other being made up of a Pack of Italian Bishops and so in effect was no more general than the single Roman Church is Catholick and Universal And tho' the Papists know there was a Catholick Church before a Roman yet they will now include the Catholick in the Roman and upon that account call themselves Roman Catholicks a singular Universal Church But Popish Bulls are so very common in Rome as they are to be the less wondred at for it And so I hope I have sufficiently prov'd that this Question of the Papist to the Protestants is very impertinent Where was your Religion before Luther To which Question we can truly answer as we did before Where I am sure the Popish Creed never was since the Council of Trent in the Bible And therefore since the Papists will attempt casting Novelty on the Protestant Religion they ought not to wonder I here speak Truth of theirs For this their Question to us will but prove to them like a Gun very much overcharg'd which instead of hitting the Mark 't is shot at flies about the Ears of him that shoots it For I can safely say because truly that the present Roman Church with her Train of Trent Additions cannot be the same true Old Catholick and Apostolical Church that she was before the Time of that Council because she has taken a New Creed and a New Creed must make a New Church as well as a New Faith must make a New Religion and therefore she cannot be altogether the Old Catholick and Apostolical Church she now so confidently pretends to and vainly boasts of as being the Mistress and Mother of all Churches when in truth she 's far from being so to any one of them except that of Trent of which we yield her to be the true Mother as will here appear upon a short Examination into this Matter First the Roman Church cannot justly call her present Faith to be altogether Old because a great part of it is altogether New as only taking its Date from the Birth of the Council of Trent and all know 't is not much more than a hundred Years since that Council was hatch'd so that the Trent Creed making now a main part of the Romish Faith which is a Truth the Papists dare not deny without denying a main part of their present Faith how is it possible she can pretend her Faith is altogether Old when she must yield at the same Time that no less than twelve Articles of the now Roman Church Faith is in a manner altogether New and how well new Cloth agrees with an Old Garment the Scripture tells us Nor has the Roman Church any better reason for stiling her self altogether Catholick because a main part of the Faith of her Church is not universally believ'd no not by half the Christian Churches I wonder for my part 't is by any so that until the Papists can make the lesser part to contain the greater they must not expect to make the Protestants believe the single Roman Church can contain the Catholick that is the universal Church And for the Roman Church stiling her self altogether Apostolical I cannot at all find she has the least Colour of Reason for it since the Date of the Trent Creed which is the present Romish Faith for 't is most certain that Creed was never so much as heard of much less taught by any of the Apostles in any of their Epistles or Writings or ever nam'd in any Christian Church over the whole World for more than fifteen hundred Years after Christ so that an Infant may as well pretend to be as old as Methusalem as the New Trent Creed can to be the old Apostolical Faith Therefore to sum up all in a word Since the Trent Creed makes a main part of the Romish Faith all the Reasons the Papists can give in my opinion for their Faith being altogether Apostolical and their Church the Mother of all Churches is but that poor weak Womanish kind of reasoning She is so because she is so But for the Protestant Religion I can here easily and truly prove it to be altogether Old altogether Catholick and altogether Apostolical The Protestant Religion is truly altogether Old because we believe the old Apostolical Creed which contains the Doctrins of our Blessed Saviour given by him to his Apostles and confirmed by the first four General Councils which Creed we continue stedfast to without the least taking from it or adding to it which the Papists with their additional New Trent Creed cannot justly nay so much as pretend to So that 't is most certain that unless the Papists will deny the Apostolical Religion to be the Old Religion they cannot truly say the Protestants is the New And let the Papists but seriously reflect on the Trent Creed they believe now and on that of the first four General Councils which was the Faith the Romish Church held then and I am sure they may as reasonably attempt to prove a Son may be elder than his natural Father as to pretend to justifie that the Trent Creed of not much more than a hundred Years standing to be elder than the Apostles Creed which was made above fifteen hundred Years before it And therefore surely the Roman Church cannot or least ought not to deny that since the Protestant Faith is still contain'd intire in the Apostles Creed it must be so many degrees elder than the Roman Faith as the Roman Church hath built new Stories on the old Protestant Foundation since at the Time of the first four General Councils for then Protestant and Papist were all one Faith so that if the Roman Church will allow what they dare not deny that their Religion was good at that Time they cannot justly say the Protestants is bad at this Time since we profess the very same Creed now they did then the Protestant Church having as I said before not in the least taken from or added to the Apostolical Creed as I am sure the Papists cannot deny but that they themselves have And tho' the Court of Rome has caus'd the Church of Rome to differ much from what she then was yet praised be God the Protestants have not alter'd from what they then were and therefore we cannot be truly said to differ more from the Church of Rome at this Time than she has differ'd from her self since that Time I mean of the first four General Councils Next I say the Protestant Faith is altogether Catholick because 't was the Faith that all the Christian Churches over the whole World professed a few Arians in the East only excepted for above fifteen hundred Years together as the Papists themselves can no more justly deny than they can truly prove that the new Roman Creed with its Trent Addition was the Faith of all the Christian Churches in the World for so much as one day no nor what 's worse is ever like to be to the last day And lastly for the Protestant Church being now altogether Apostolical the Papists may with the same reason and Justice deny the Apostles Creed to be Apostlical as to deny our Faith is not so since the Protestant Faith is contain'd in the Apostles Creed which we never at all varied from but continued altogether firm to without the least Alteration or Diminution a hapyy Truth which I 'm sure the Roman Church dares not now pretend to without having no less than twelve new Articles of Faith to flie in her Face and giving her as many Times the Lye for pretending to it And now there remains only to add That if the Church of Rome has any Inclination to bring the Protestant Church into a hearty Unity and firm Community with her the best and only way will be to take the first four General Councils as the Judge and Standard to measure all our present Differences by and if the Protestants have deviated in the least from them to reform in what they have differed and let the Papists but do the same and retrench all their idle new supernumerary Trent Articles of Faith and disband all their vain superstitious Ceremonies neither of which was ever taught or indeed heard of by the Apostles or primitive Christians and reduce their Creed to the same it was in the Time of the first four General Councils and then the Papist as well as Protestant will become of the same Apostolical Faith now as we were both of us then that is be again both of one and the same Religion But the Pope's Power is too high and his Revenue too great to admit this mortifying Spirit light Mony can never agree with true Scales nor Deformity like a true Glass no more can the new Additions of the Romish Creed endure the true Touch-Stone of the old Apostolical Faith Therefore to conclude in a word unless you are resolv'd to choose superstitious Doctrin before Gospel Truths a false Religion before a true one Darkness before Light the Trent new Articles of-Faith before the old Apostolical Creed Never chuse the Popish Religion before the Protestant FINIS