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A54155 Judas and the Jews combined against Christ and his followers being a re-joynder to the late nameless reply, called, Tyranny and hypocrisie detected, made against a book, entituled The spirit of Alexander the Coppersmith rebuked, &c. which was an answer to a pamphlet, called, The spirit of the hat, in which truth is cleared from scandals, and the Church of Christ, in her faith, doctrine, and just power and authority in discipline is clearly and fully vindicated against the malicious endeavours of a confederacy of some envious professors and vagabond, apostate Quakers / by ... William Penn ; to which are added several testimonies of persons concern'd. Penn, William, 1644-1718. 1673 (1673) Wing P1307; ESTC R23117 100,153 131

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such pretended Hereticks as the poor Waldenses then we do in the Case of Burial I say again That as our Friends intended upon their first Purchase of a Burying Place that their Dead Bodies should ●ie together from the People of distinct Wayes which is warranted from Abraham's Practice in Genesis so do they not desire that such as have been of them and have afterwards run out should lie among them unless it be the Desire of the Deceasing Parties or that they declare their Unity with Friends yet we would not by any means be thought to deny any Person whatever a Buring-Place though we could never allow it to them as one of us since that were most unnatural I would fain know if this Adversary would observe no Distinction in this Case or what Injury there is done in making that Difference when Dead which was observed by the deceast Party himself when alive For the Property that he sayes some of them have 't is true and was never denyed but that we usurpt it we did and do reject as a Slander They never desired their part of the Collection that bought it nor did we ever refuse to repay it but are ready to be quit with them when they will a Perverse Apostatized Generation For Ecclesiastical Priviledges I know not what he means and those Scoffs ill become a Man that pretends to Religion Such Priviledges as are the peculiar Right of every true Member of Christ's Church it must be confest that such Starters aside from the Primitive Fellowship of it do deprive themselves of Church-Priviledges we don't But this sayes he is more then any beside the Papist dare pretend to the Protestant or Church of England challenges no such Power p. 5. But he that has ventured to tell so many False Things of us may dare to bestow one upon her especially when it is considered that he is a Concealed Person and may be False and Base with Security Does not the Church of England both Excommunicate and stir up the Civil Magistrate against such as dissent from her in meer Circumstances Does not the long Difference between her and the ancient Puritans Presbyterians and Independents Baptists and Us more particularly sufficiently Disprove that Bold Assertion But we pretend not to Imitate any but really act according to that Understanding and Sense which God given us in these things and in which we commend our selves to him being herein willing to abide his Judgment To the Rest of those Cruelties he makes us guilty of he doth with the Author of the Spirit of the Hat charge us with Pulling down Haling out of our Meetings and consequently wanted only Power to punish them adding That my Appeal to God's Witness in all Consciences for our Vindication shows me greatly to be lamented as either Blind or Impudent That we have also Pusht Pincht Kickt and Trod upon Feet and Toes sending us to Francis Chadwell for Proof thereof But to say nothing of his Ill-Language my Appeal stands as it did and as before so now I will put it between Impartial and Moderate Men if ever we so used any Conscientious Inquirer or Opposer No nor any else after that manner represented by our Adversary and God will plead our Innocency against him in the Hour of his Rigteous Judgments he shall not go Uncondemned down to his Grave For Francis Chadwell he is a Man of no Conscience nor Credit in what relates to us I my self have known him grosly guilty both of Lying and Tipling No frothy Stager is less to be regarded in Religion then this Man's Witness a Light Scoffing Taunting Tumultuous Person who after an Hundred Solid Confutations One of which had been enough to strike an Ingenuous Man to the Heart has continued to Bawl and Disquiet our Meetings time after time His Aim hath been to raise up an Envious and Scoffing Spirit in People against us Jeering Laughing Houting with such Unseemly Carriages as wholely unbefit him for a Witness against us He had as good as confest that he has been Hired by some Professors to Disturb us and told me If I would give him Five Hundred Pounds he would be a Quaker too yet this is our Socinian Adversary's Serious Conscientious Inquirer or Opposer He also brings in one William King whom he sayes We Haled out of our Gallery in Grace-Church Street with such Violence that he hath scarce felt the Stairs but that he hath often felt our Cruel Hands witness G. Whitehead 's Pinching him in the Arm at Jer. Clark 's House and that We would not suffer him a Prisoner among us though for the same Cause and all this for some Disagreement in Judgment I confess I have no great Acquaintance with the Man but first deny that ever he was Haled out of Grace-Church Street or any where else but it may so happen that he offering to keep the Meeting when ended by our Friends the People pressing out and he speaking might bear him away with a Croud which hath fallen out to many that have been Speakers and not Opposers perhaps some disturbed and hindred of Hearing may on their own Account have shoven him or put him by what 's that to us For G. Whitehead's Pinching him it is like the rest full of Slander He is known to be a Man of more Temperance and Command of himself if he had been provoked 'T is true He took him by the Sleeve to turn him to a Looking-Glass that he might behold his Envious and Passionate Countenance as G. W. avers and others present But had it been true how one Pinch can prove that he had OFTEN felt our Cruel Hands Unbyassed Readers may best judge That he was a Prisoner is confessed that we Refused him to be among us is denyed But that we were not in Unity with him we are not afraid to own I know not that I ever spoak to him but once and that was in New-Gate being a Prisoner my self and if he will speak Truth he can say nothing hard of me For G. Whitehead's Charging Henry ●awson not to entertain him is false For what is it but to suggest that we would Refuse him common Hospitality 'T is true that G. W. as in Conscience-bound warned them of him as one of the Ancient Creepers into Houses Disaffected to the Brethren and Prone to Discords as by his frequent Disturbances in our Meetings is evident therefore not to entertain him as one in Unity with us but if he or any of them want supposing first their Lawful Endeavours to procure sufficient Maintenance I know not one among us who would not readily Administer to their Nceessities But we gave out a Paper against John Pennyman when he was in Prison and would not spare that grave ancient Gentle-Woman Ann Mud who being MOVED to speak a few Words T. Matthews pulled her away by Violence and that we were the People in former Dayes that vexed and disquieted all Sorts of Religious Assemblies and clamoured