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repugnance_n but_o rather_o a_o necessary_a consequence_n that_o spiritual_a prince_n not_o as_o they_o be_v spiritual_a prince_n but_o as_o they_o be_v true_a part_n and_o member_n of_o the_o temporal_a common_a wealth_n shall_v be_v subject_a in_o temporal_a affair_n to_o temporal_a prince_n for_o every_o member_n say_v card._n bellarmine_n 19_o bellarmine_n liâ—_n de_fw-fr monachis_fw-la cap._n 19_o aught_o to_o be_v subject_a to_o the_o head_n and_o clergy_n man_n beside_o that_o they_o be_v clergy_n man_n be_v also_o citizen_n and_o part_n of_o the_o civil_a common_a wealth_n as_o card._n bellarmine_n affirm_v in_o a_o other_o place_n 28._o place_n lib._n de_fw-fr clericis_fw-la cap._n 28._o and_o the_o king_n be_v head_n of_o the_o politic_a or_o civil_a body_n as_o also_o in_o his_o schulckenius_n he_o express_o affirm_v 339._o affirm_v pag._n 339._o four_o for_o that_o card._n bellarmine_n be_v also_o now_o of_o opinion_n at_o least_o wise_a he_o be_v when_o he_o write_v against_o d._n barckley_n that_o it_o be_v probable_a that_o the_o priest_n of_o the_o old_a law_n who_o have_v true_a spiritual_a power_n and_o be_v true_a spiritual_a prince_n be_v subject_a to_o king_n and_o therefore_o for_o this_o reason_n to_o recall_v his_o former_a opinion_n and_o especial_o to_o condemn_v it_o as_o improbable_a be_v both_o to_o contradict_v himself_o and_o also_o to_o condemn_v of_o temeritie_n the_o learn_a school_n divine_n of_o this_o age_n and_o also_o of_o his_o society_n 33_o these_o be_v all_o the_o principal_a reason_n which_o i_o can_v find_v in_o card._n bellarmine_n for_o which_o he_o be_v move_v to_o recall_v his_o former_a opinion_n and_o to_o condemn_v it_o as_o improbable_a which_o how_o probable_a they_o be_v or_o rather_o very_o insufficient_a to_o move_v such_o a_o learned_a man_n as_o card._n bellarmine_n be_v to_o forsake_v the_o school_n divine_n and_o to_o fly_v to_o the_o canonist_n who_o as_o pope_n pius_n the_o five_o sincere_o confess_v 6_o confess_v navar._n super_fw-la cap._n non_fw-la liceat_fw-la papaâ—_n 12._o q._n 2_o 55._o 3â—_n nu_fw-la 6_o do_v attribute_n to_o the_o pope_n more_o authority_n than_o be_v fit_v and_o to_o censure_v so_o rigorous_o and_o rash_o the_o learn_a catholic_n of_o this_o age_n and_o also_o of_o his_o own_o society_n of_o temeritie_n i_o remit_v to_o the_o judgement_n of_o the_o discreet_a reader_n as_o also_o to_o consider_v whether_o reason_n or_o affection_n to_o advance_v the_o pope_n authority_n move_v he_o not_o only_o to_o recall_v his_o former_a opinion_n but_o also_o to_o condemn_v it_o as_o improbable_a 33_o last_o that_o the_o reader_n may_v have_v some_o knowledge_n of_o the_o true_a state_n of_o the_o question_n concern_v the_o authority_n of_o spiritual_a pastor_n to_o exempt_a clergy_n man_n from_o the_o power_n of_o secular_a prince_n for_o that_o some_o divine_n be_v of_o opinion_n that_o from_o the_o exemption_n of_o clergy_n man_n a_o strong_a argument_n 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pastor_n he_o shall_v offend_v against_o the_o virtue_n of_o religion_n for_o the_o which_o offence_n his_o spiritual_a pastor_n may_v punish_v he_o with_o ecclesiastical_a censure_n and_o of_o this_o manner_n of_o exemption_n by_o way_n of_o command_n and_o spiritual_a coercion_n all_o the_o canon_n and_o decree_n of_o pope_n and_o counsel_n which_o do_v signify_v imply_v or_o suppose_v that_o clergy_n man_n may_v by_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o church_n without_o the_o consent_n of_o temporal_a prince_n be_v exempt_v from_o secular_a power_n either_o touch_v their_o person_n or_o their_o good_n may_v be_v very_o well_o understand_v i_o say_v if_o the_o necessity_n of_o the_o church_n do_v require_v it_o for_o at_o this_o present_a i_o will_v not_o enter_v into_o particular_n what_o manner_n of_o necessity_n be_v require_v that_o a_o spiritual_a pastor_n may_v impose_v such_o a_o command_n upon_o his_o temporal_a prince_n 34_o but_o the_o controversy_n betwixt_o i_o and_o my_o 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follow_v that_o it_o can_v also_o of_o some_o part_n and_o contrariwise_o those_o catholic_n who_o affirm_v that_o the_o spiritual_a power_n can_v exempt_v ot_fw-mi absolve_v clergy_n man_n from_o their_o temporal_a allegiance_n and_o subjection_n to_o temporal_a prince_n must_v consequeny_o affirm_v that_o it_o can_v not_o exempt_a or_o absolve_v all_o subject_n from_o their_o temporal_a allegiance_n and_o who_o affirm_v that_o it_o can_v not_o absolve_v or_o exempt_v all_o subject_n from_o their_o temporal_a allegiance_n nor_o deprive_v a_o temporale_n prince_n of_o all_o his_o regal_a authority_n will_v easy_o affirm_v that_o it_o can_v exempt_v or_o absolve_v clergy_n man_n from_o their_o temporal_a allegiance_n and_o subjection_n nor_o deprive_v a_o temporal_a prince_n of_o any_o part_n of_o his_o regal_a authority_n 36_o but_o some_o do_v great_o urge_v this_o objection_n if_o the_o spiritual_a power_n can_v command_v temporal_a prince_n not_o to_o exercise_v their_o temporal_a power_n over_o the_o person_n or_o good_n of_o clergy_n man_n without_o the_o consent_n of_o their_o ecclesiastical_a superior_a it_o do_v consequent_o follow_v that_o a_o temporal_a prince_n do_v offend_v if_o he_o transgress_v the_o just_a and_o lawful_a command_n of_o his_o spiritual_a pastor_n and_o therefore_o it_o seem_v that_o a_o temporal_a prince_n have_v no_o power_n over_o the_o person_n or_o good_n of_o clergy_n man_n after_o such_o a_o command_n suppose_v it_o to_o be_v lawful_a unless_o we_o will_v grant_v that_o a_o temporal_a prince_n have_v power_n to_o commit_v sin_n and_o to_o transgress_v the_o lawful_a command_n of_o his_o spiritual_a pastor_n 37_o to_o this_o objection_n wherewith_o i_o have_v know_v diverse_a man_n of_o learning_n to_o be_v somewhat_o perplex_v those_o catholic_n who_o deny_v that_o the_o spiritual_a power_n can_v deprive_v by_o way_n of_o sentence_n a_o temporal_a prince_n of_o his_o regal_a authority_n either_o whole_o or_o in_o part_n may_v 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