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A91394	A speech delivered by Mr. Pym, at a conference of both Houses; ocasioned from divers instructions, resolved upon by the House of Commons, and presented to the Lords, and read by Sir Henry Vayne. Discovering the dangers and miseries the three kingdomes are liable unto, by reason of his Majesties evill counsellors as the effects doth declare. As also, the justice, reasonablenesse, and necessitie of changing them.	Pym, John, 1584-1643.	1642 (1642)	Wing P4283; Thomason E200_49; ESTC R14471	4,627	8

onely to those that are most opposite to it but to all that will not fully agree and concurre with them and though for a time they may comply with others and make use of them yet in the end they will consume and destroy all that will not wholly turne to them there is in nature a formative vertue whereby it frames Organs in the Body fit for the exercise of those specificall operations which are necessary for the life and perfection of the Creature and likewise a Nutritive vertue whereby it converes other things to the increase and preservation of it selfe There is a spirit in Popery which workes somewhat after this manner It moulds factious instruments proper to its owne designes and so it hath found out wayes and meanes to get such Officers such Councellors both of the Church and State as would be usefull for furthering their owne cause and then by this Nutrative facultie they can apply both Ecclesiasticall and Civill Orders Constitutions and proceedings to the growth and strength of themselves and their partie other Religions may have as much falshood as this but no other hath such a destructive qualitie as this hath nor is so contrary to the civill Government of a Protestant Kingdome as this is Now that Popery hath a prevayling and predominant power in all the ●ate Councells is cleare by these reasons The innovations in Church Matters have beene such as have made that Religion more plausible and the course of government such as hath made way for the imployment and preferment of those who have beene Patrons and Protectors of it by whose Mediation and Power the professors thereof have received many Immunities much favour and countenance to the evident increase of their number and strength what Maturity this designe is come to in Ireland we see even to a publike attempt to destroy all the Protestants there and to free themselves from his Majesties Government and that the like was intended both for England and Scotland we have no cause to doubt when wee consider upon what grounds the late Warre was procured and that Prayers have now a long time beene made by those of the Popish Religion for the successe of some great designe in hand for the advancement of that cause A fift was this That whatsoever Aides are given by the Subject they will be of no effect for the good of the Kingdome unlesse such Councels be removed they will be like restoratives to a distempered body which nourish the sicknesse and hasten Death Our Treasure may be consumed unprofitably the Kingdome left naked of defence as it hath lately beene the Negociations with forraigne Princes may be managed to our own disadvantage and all the meanes of preservation frustrated or turned to our destruction A Sixt was this That now was the proper time for desiring this favour and benifit from his Majestie the Kingdome was very much exhausted a little more would ●otally undoe us wee have heretofore strength to beare out ill Councels which now we have not Relapses in such a case as ours prove commonly more dangerously then the first sicknesse when by strength of Nature the distempers prevaile without resistance if ill Councels should now resume strength they would grow much more violent and fierce than before Besides this is a time wherein the whole world is in Motion and Agitation and such times are ever aptest for great Changes and Alterations There are none of our neighbour Princes but have Armies and great Preparations both by sea and land and if wee have false Counsell at home we may be overwhelmed upon a sudden which could not be done at other times ●ecause any attempt of that kinde would require long time and more visible preparation Another Reason urged for the fitnesse of the time was That his Majestie had now great occasion to use the love and fidelity of his people in service of danger and expence and therefore would be more willing to expresse himselfe in those things which might be most for their incouragement and security in their great undertakings and adventures for his honour and this he said was agreable to the proceedings of God who may be observed at such times a● he intended to imploy any of his Prophets or Servants in any great worke would for the most part incourage in some extraordinary manner by some speciall blessing or pr●mise some more eminent Revelation or Miracle then at other times The Seventh and last Step was this that his Majestie in satisfying this humble desire of his Subjects should gaine very great advantages to himselfe and he said that here in our request to the King should have some resemblance of our prayers to God we should desire nothing from him but what might make for his owne honour and Happinesse as we ought to pray for nothing from God but what conduceth to his own Glory and Service The advantages which the King will gaine by assenting to this our humble Petition will be these 1. It will be a great discouragement to the Rebells when they see his Majesties affaires and proceedings against them are guided by such Councellors and Ministers as are Adverse to them as is evident by the intelligence we have received that a chiefe point of confidence in the Rebells is this That they have some friends neare the King here 2. It will much incourage his Majesties good Subject to hazard their persons and contribute their ayd to the furtherance of this service when they shall be assured that those w●● governe the Affaires have publike aymes and will order and dispose all to the advantage of Religion and the Common good 3. It will be a terrour to those who shall presume to move the King for any corrupt or unworthy person when they must come to an examination in Parliament because it will be a meanes to bring his Majestie to discerne how they abuse his trust and favour by what sinister end or sordid respects they are guided 4. It will put an answer into the Kings mouth to all Importunate sollicitations Nothing is more troublesome to a benigne and gratious Prince then to deny those who are neare unto him whereas if he shall please to say that he is ingaged to his people this will be a sure way to take off all envie and discontent from himselfe and assure him that those whom he shall preferre will depend upon no other FINIS

A SPEECH DELIVERED BY Mr. PYM AT A CONFERENCE OF BOTH HOUSES Ocasioned from divers Instructions Resolved upon by the House of Commons and presented to the Lords and read by Sir HENRY VAYNE Discovering the dangers and miseries the three Kingdomes are liable unto by Reason of his Majesties evill Counsellors as the effects doth declare As also the Justice Reasonablenesse and Necessitie of changing them LONDON Printed for John Bull June 15. 1642. AT A CONFERENCE OF BOTH Houses there was presented to the Lords divers Instructions agreed upon in the House of Commons which were read by Sir Henry Vaine and after the reading of them Mr. Pym spake as followeth THat these Instructions as your Lordships may perceive consisted of six Articles of the first five he should have no cause to speake much because they could afford no matter of doubt wherefore hee onely recited them thus The first conteined a friendly apprehension of the kindnesse of our Brethren in the Parliament of Scotland in their ready offer to assist this Kingdome against the Rebells of Ireland The second was onely a Declaration of our willingnesse to accept that offer The third a Narrative of our proceedings and preparations for that warre The fourth a particular desire of 1000. men from the Scots to bee speedily sent into the North parts of Ireland The fift a publike undertaking and ingagement to make satisfaction for the charges of those men The sixt was to present to his most excellent Majestie an humble Petition That he would be pleased to change those Councells which hath beene so mischievous to the State and of so much danger and misery to his Majestie and his Subjects and to imploy in his great affaires such Councellors and Ministers as might be approved by his great Councell the Parliament this he said had beene resolved by the House of Commons with good deliberation and might perchance admit some ob●ection wherefore hee was Command●d to speake somewhat to shew the Justice the Reasonablenesse the Necessitie of it therein wherein he said he would proceede by these steps The first was this that the dangers and miseries which come to a State by evill Councels are of the most pernicious and destructive naure of all others The comparison betwixt a Naturall Body and a Politicke Body is usuall they resemble in nothing more than in this Death and sicknesse and d●nger have divers wayes of approach to naturall Bodies sometimes by outward violence sometimes by intemperance in diet exercise or unwholesomnesse of the Ayre The first may be prevented by warinesse by courage by Assistance The second sort are more easily cured the cause being knowne But there is a third sort of deseases proceeding from the defects of some more noble and vitall parts the Heart the Braine the Liver these are harder to be cured the cause being not so easily discovered nor the remedy so readily applyed especially because they weaken and debilitate n●ture in those prime powers and offices which should Actuate and dispose the Medium to the procuring of health The dangers by warres and the attempt of open enemies may bee compared to the first sort and may with more facilitie be prevented by the provision and opposition of Force the disorders and distempers of a Common-wealth by corruption in Justice by deceites or disadvantages in Tra●e by excesse in Luxury and inordinate expences they are soone discovered and by good Lawes and care in the execution of them may be certainly prevented and these have some resemblance to the second sort But in evill and unfaithfull Councellors are the vitall parts of a State poysoned and corrupted the wayes of danger are more secret and so more difficult to be cured the remedies are kept out by power greatnesse and authorities the state is not onely disabled to helpe it selfe by the want of such principall Members and Instruments but the power wisedome and authoritie of it is by their cunning and subtile practices turned against it selfe and therefore the dangers and mischiefes that come this way are much more incurable then others The second point to which he proceeded was this that there have beene and still are evill Councels and Councellers of the time past there will be no doubt The judgements against some the accusation of others the flight of divers the designes upon Religion the attempts upon the State the oppression of the People and the manifold divisions and distempers in the Kingdome are too great evidences of it but for the present they are somewhat quelled and appeare not so boldly they lurke and whisper in corners yet the effects prove there are such and like poyson in the roote they are lesse visible but no lesse dangerous then when they flourish in the hearbe or in the fruite yet as much as they dare they will take upon them to make defences and appollogies for the evill Councells of others and such as these are aptest and readiest to preferment and imployment which is a signe that some neare the King are Lovers and Patrons of those that love and preferre evill Councellors to more value and esteeme And most cleare evidence is this that all the wicked designes against the Parliament and against the peace of the Kingdome may be traced home to have their orignall in the Court and to be first acted and moved by some p●incipall persons neare the King A third was this that the Councells of this time are of a more dangerous and desperate nature then those of other times and Ages this State hath often suffered under former Princes by evill Councells sometimes they have beene such as would flatter his Majestie in his vices but we may thanke God that his Majesties vertue will give entrance to no such ill Councells as these sometimes they have abused the Power and Authoritie of the Prince for enriching and advancing their owne kindred and friends and of disgracing and discontenting those of better Merrits Others have beene officers to straine the prerogative to the great grievance of the People and in ill Counsells of this kind wee have suffered in too great a measure but these are farre from the heart of the State they extend not to come and destr●●tion but the Councell under which wee groane and against which we labour they are such as ayme at the alteration of Religion at the subvertion of the fundamentall Lawes and Government and in this consists the very life and being of our Kingdome they are deadly pernicious ruining Councells both to this and all other protestant States not to be parallel'd in any former time A fourth was that all these evill and mischievous Councells proceed from Popery and tend to Popery That is the Primum Mobile that moves and comprehends all the rest there are inferiour Motions which tend to more perticular ends but this is the great end by which they are all acted and directed the Religion of the Papists is incompatible with all other Religions and hath in it principles distructive not