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A47140	An exact narrative of the proceedings at Turners-Hall, the 11th of the month called June, 1696 together with the disputes and speeches there, between G. Keith and other Quakers, differing from him in some religious principles / the whole published and revised by Goerge Keith ; with an appendix containing some new passages to prove his opponents guilty of gross errors and self-contradictions.	Keith, George, 1639?-1716.; Whitehead, George, 1636?-1723.; Penn, William, 1644-1718.; Ellwood, Thomas, 1639-1713.	1696 (1696)	Wing K161; ESTC R14328	86,182	64

palpable Contradictions 1. His first Contradiction In the Treatise of Oaths above-mentioned signed particularly by William Penn he is earnest against all Oaths under the Gospel and yet in his Reason against Railing he useth the greatest Oath that ever was used among the Jews to wit As God liveth or The Lord liveth which was the form of their Oath as is clear from many places of Scripture but particularly Jerem 4.2.5.2 Now let us hear how he himself hath practically used this Oath against Thomas Hicks pag. 180. O that these heavy things might not be laid to thy charge for so sure as God liveth great will be the Wrath that shall follow yea God will visit for these unrighteous dealings and I testify to thee from God's Living Spirit if thou desist not and come not to deep Repentance the Lord will make thee an Example of his Fury and thy head shall not go down to the Grave in Peace and by this shalt thou know that not a Lying or Delusive but a True and Infallible Spirit hath spoken by me Annot. These words imply some Prophecy that W. Penn thought he had from the Infallible Spirit of God against Tho. Hicks importing he should be made an Example of his Fury But they that saw Tho. Hicks dye and knew him living say nothing of this was fulfilled nor did any thing extraordinary as any Example of Divine Fury happen to Tho. Hicks either before he died or at his death 2. His second Contradiction is this In the Book called Judas and the Jews pag 13. owned and signed by W. Penn he thus glosseth on Matth 18.17 Go tell the Church That Christ as well gave his Church Power to reject as to try Spirits is not hard to prove that Notable Passage Go tell the Church does it to our hand for if in case of private Offence betwixt Brethren the Church is made Absolute Judge from whom there is no Appeal in this world how much more in any the least case that concerns the Nature Being Faith and Worship of the Church her self Annot. This he spoke with respect to the Quakers Church whose Power he so mightily extols that she is made Absolute Judge from whom there is no Appeal in this world But having to do with the Church of England or any other Church of them called Protestants we shall see how he makes a contradictory Gloss on the same Text Matth. 18.17 Go tell the Church In his Address to Protestants second Edition p. 152. he saith But what then can be the meaning of Christ's words Go tell the Church Very well I answer It 's not about Faith but Injury that Christ speaks and the place explains it self Moreover If thy brother shall trespass against thee go and tell him his fault between thee and him alone here is Wrong not Religion Injustice not Faith or Conscience concerned as some would have it to maintain their Church-Power Annot. Here you see he makes the Church-Power very low as by Church he means the Church of England or any other Church besides the Church of the Quakers But when he means the Church of the Quakers from the same Text he magnifies her Power as great as ever Bellarmine or any other Jesuit magnified the Church of Rome She to wit the Quakers Church otherwise tell us what other Church he means is made Absolute Judge from whom there is no Appeal in this world Then be sure if W. Penn can prevail to keep up this Authority in the Quakers Church neither G Keith nor any other against whom that he calleth the Church to wit the Yearly Meeting at London hath passed any Sentence however unjust must expect to have any Relief or Redress in this world Well It is a great Comfort that we may expect it in the world to come If this be not to play the Ambidexter a Crime T. Elwood unjustly casteth on me in another case I know not what is 3. His Third Contradiction is this In his Address to Protestants second Edition pag. 246. he saith Men that are angry for God passionate for Christ that can call Names for Religion and sling Stones for Faith may tell us they are Christians if they will but no body would know them to be such by their fruits to be sure they are no Christians of Christ's making Annot. One would think this man would be far from giving hard Names to any that differ from him in Religious Matters and that he would be one of the civilest men on earth for softly and gently treating his Opponents But instead thereof I know not if ever I read or heard more angry and passionate words and more und●cent and unbecoming any man either Christian or sober Heathen than William Penn hath given to his Opponents and such as he hath differed from in Religious Matters witness what he saith in his Guide mistaken p. 18. 1668 The old Gormandizing Priests of England No sort of people have been so universally through Ages the Bane of Soul and Body of the Universe as that abominable Tribe for whom the Theatre of God's most dreadful Vengeance is reserved to act their eternal Tragedy upon Again in his Quakerism a new Nickname c. p. 165. he saith But in the earth there is not any thing so phant●stical conceited proud railing busy-body and sometimes ignorant as a sort of Priests to us not unknown among whom our Adversary viz. John Faldo an Independent Preacher is not the least who think their Coat will bear out their worst Expressions for Religion and practise an haughty Reviling for Christ as one of the greatest demonstrations of their Zeal an Ill bred and Pedentick Crew the Bane of Reason and Pest of the World the old Incendi●ries to mischief and the best to be spared of Mankind against whom the boiling Vengeance of an irritated God is rea●ly to be poured out to the destruction of such if they repent not and turn from their abominable Deceits Annot. Seeing the only Reason that was given at the Meeting at Turner's Hall the 11th of this Instant 1696. by one of William Penn's Party why they excommunicated George Keith having nothing either against his Doctrine or Conversation among men but that he was as he was pleased to call me a little petulant and turbulent Man and that they have aggravated some few words I gave to some professed Infidels among us in Pensilvania to that height as deserving Excommunication Let the Impartial Reader judge whether W. Penn has not far exceeded me and that incomparably for I thank God I have not the faculty to invent such words as well as George Whithead hath also done in calling some that but differed from him about Womens Meetings and Church Orders of G. Fox Incarnate Devils Wolves Dogs in his Preface to Judgment Fixed 1682. Behold therefore their Injustice and Partiality for when did they ever so much as censure either of them for such scurrilous abusive Language or any others that have used the like Nay

G. KEITH's NARRATIVE OF THE PROCEEDINGS at TURNERS-HALL THE Eleventh of the Month called June 1696. AN Exact Narrative OF THE PROCEEDINGS AT TURNERS-HALL The 11th of the Month called June 1696. Together with the DISPUTES and SPEECHES There BETWEEN G. KEITH and other QVAKERS Differing from Him in Some Religious Principles The Whole Published and Revised By GEORGE KEITH With an APPENDIX containing some New Passages to prove His Opponents guilty of Gross Errors and Self-Contradictions LONDON Printed for B. Aylmer at the Three Pigeons in Cornhill and J. Dunton at the Raven in Jewen-street 1696. The PREFACE THE Preface to the Friendly Readers throughout these Three Nations and elsewhere professing the Christian Faith in Sincerity To a●l you sincere B●lievers in the Lord Jesus Christ and true lovers of him and of that Holy Christian Religion whereof he is the Author throughout these three Nations and other Countries where the Christian Religion is Professed I do humbly recommend this following Narrative to your serious Reading and Consideration of what Station Rank or Quality soever ye be the subject matter treated on in the said Narrative being so great Fundamentals of the Christian Religion and Faith that the denyal of them is a downright denyal of the Christian Religion and Faith it self Seeing therefore the Subject is so great and so essential to the Christian Faith it worthily deserveth and calleth for the due and serious Consideration of all the sincere Professors of Christ to whose hands th●t may happen to come And since the report of our late differences about Religious Matters one with another remaining under one common Name and Designation of Quakers is spread far and near not only through these Three Nations but other Places abroad as is apparent by the late GENERAL HISTORY of the QUAKERS Written by Gerard Croese a Hollander writ Originally in Latin and lately Published in English here at London And that the Report of the late Meeting and Conference held at Turners-Hall in London the 11th of the Month called June is much gone abroad through both City and Country chiefly with respect to the subject matter there discoursed and my undertaking against them of the opposite Party to prove certain Persons of greatest Note among them guilty of denying and opposing these great Fundamentals particularly specified in the following Narrative out of their Printed Books it may be judged that both the love of Christian Verity and the sense of Christian Duty will oblige and induce you to read the said Narrative if it fall into your hands and others to enquire after it that the truth of the matter may be searched into whether these whom I have undertaken to prove guilty of denying and opposing these great Fundamental Truths be really so or I be guilty in accusing them I cannot suppose that any sincere Professor of the Christian Faith to whose Ears the Report of this great Controversie hath come will be a Gall●o in the Case so as to care for none of these things If your outward Estates Liberty and Property lay at stake to be endangered would ye not be awakened to provide the b●st Remedy to secure them how much more I hope will all sincere Professors of the Christian Religion be concerned for that which is incomparably more valuable than all these outward things Even the Redemption of your Souls which is your true riches according to that in Prov. 13.8 The Redemption of the Soul of a Man is h●s Riches It is reckoned the greatest Cheat and Imp●sture that can happen in a Nation to cor●upt and adulterate the true Coyn and falsifie it so as to make Brass or Iron pass for true Silver what shall then be judged of such who seek to adulterate and falsifie the true Christi●n Religion as to put another thing in place of it even plain Deism or Gentilism to w●t a Profession of Religion towards God and Light in Men excluding Christ God Man and the Faith of him as he dyed for us and rose again and is sat down in the Kingdom of the Father and as he is to come again to judge the Quick and the Dead in the true intire glorified Nature of Man having the true Soul and Body of Man the same he had on Earth The denyal of these great Fundamental Truths of the Christian Religion with some others necessarily related to them and joyned with them inseparably I have undertaken to prove my Opponents guilty of and not only I but many Judicious Persons that were present at that Meeting at Turners-Hall the 11th of the Month called June of this instant 1696 of the several Professions of Protestants in this great City did judge that I have effectually done it But if I have not done it and cannot make it justly to appear that these particular Persons are guilty of the things charged by me on them I shall freely acknowledge that I deserve great blame and therefore I greatly desire if it were the Will of God that I might have yet a more Publick Opportunity to be heard as concerning these things were it to be called before the greatest Persons of Authority in the Nation either to make good my Charges against them and if they be found guilty the blame to lye on them or if I be found guilty that I may have the blame laid on me But let them be found ever so guilty as I am most sure they are let them cover and cloak as much as ever they can I would not in the least have them persecuted or any Sufferings either in Person or Estate to come upon them My design in this undertaking is that they may be shamed out of their gross Errors if possible or if they continue shameless in them yet that all others who are not as yet tainted with them may be preserved from them and cautioned and warned against them for this Gangrene of their vile and gross Errour and Heresie that is a complex of the worst sort of Errors and Heresies that ever infested the Christian Profession hath to my certain knowledge overspread many parts and many persons in these Three Nations as well as elsewhere Though I charge them not either upon the generality far less the universality of all them called Quakers But if they really disown these gross and vile Errors which I have proved them guilty of in this following Narrative and be cordial in the belief and acknowledgment of the great Fundamental Truths opposite to those Errors then it will be that which the sincere Professors of Christianity in these Three Nations will expect from them and may justly require of them as publickly to retract and renounce these Errors as they have publickly asserted them in their Printed Books in the face of the Christian World otherwise no sincere Christians will believe them to be in good earnest but that they resemble many old Hereticks and particularly the crafty Arrians that pretended and made great Protestations that they owned the true Faith according to

meeting me when desired For if they thought that I would show any such Behaviour it would be such an advantage to them that it would rather be an Argument to invite them to meet me that I may discover my self than to disswade them But blessed be God that preserved me at that Meeting when I had great Provocation given me by some of their Party in such a Temper and Moderation of Spirit as hundreds are ready to witness as became a sober Christian when some of them that appeared against me shewed themselves very outragious And as insignificant is their Excuse of declining to meet because it was not an agreed Meeting on both sides As if guilty Persons are not to be tryed without their consent and agreement Was it not more Fair Just and Equal in me and my Friends to give them a fair Tryal with open and free access of all sober Persons as many as the Place could contain without Croud and leave it to the Consciences of the Auditors how to judge and intimate my Intenti●n at a convenient time beforehand than for them to condemn me in a clandestine Place without all Tryal fair or unfair and not to let me have access to them but when and how little time they pleased and to suffer none of my Friends to be present to be Witnesses of their unfair proceedings against me Their upbraiding me by insinuating my assuming a Spiritual Jurisdiction over them and summoning them to appear before me is idle and vain The Injurer is Debtor to the Injured and accountable to him But let them tell what Spiritual Jurisdiction they had over me to call me several times to them at their Yearly Meetings 1694 more than I had over them to call them to our Meeting at Turners-Hall 1696 unless they will fly to their common Pretence common to them with the Church of Rome their Infallibility the contrary of which they have manifestly showed and never any Society of People professing Christianity hath given greater Instances of not only their Fallibility but their being miserably deceived than these Men have done And as idle is that other Excuse of theirs that they will not dispute with me viva voce because I am gone off from them but they did thrust me from them by their Vnjust Excommunication when I would have stayed among them so long as I could have any hope to have reclaimed them from their Errors but if my going off be a sufficient Reason why they will not Answer me viva voce it is as sufficient a Reson why they should not Answer me in Print which yet they boast they will do For if I be not worthy nor fit to be Answered by Word nor am I to be Answered by Writ But all this sheweth their confusion and inconsistency They think such a Meeting at Turners-Hall is but in a corner and not in the face of the Nation but they are like to find it hath been so much in the face of the Nation that many in the Nation will notice it possibly more than they would either wish or expect and more than any thing that hath happened to them for many Years past to give the Nation a discovery of them and of their vile Errors and irregular Practices If my Adversaries happen to put out an Answer to this Narrative filled as their manner is with the Falshoods and Perversions and vain Shifts and Evasions I purpose with Leave of the Civil Authority which I hope to obtain as well as formerly God willing to Print a New Advertisement of a Méeting and to give them timely Notice before-hand to detect their Errors and Abuses yet further and to renew the like Practice as oft as they abuse the World and me with their Prints For their unfair way of Disputing in Print is much easier discovered viva voce than by Answering in Print and is more acceptable to all Free and Impartial People who in that way are more capable to judge G. KEITH It is thought proper in the first place to insert the following Advertisement bearing date the 11th of the Third Moneth called May 1696 and sent to those Persons called Quakers chiefly concerned it being the occasion of the following Conference An ADVERTISEMENT Of a Meeting about some Controversies in Religious Matters of Faith to be held by George Keith and his Friends at their usual Meeting place in Turners-Hall in Philpot-Lane London the Eleventh Day of the Month called June 1696. to begin about the Ninth Hour and to be adjourned if Occasion requireth To which Meeting William Penn Thomas Elwood George Whitehead John Pennington and these of the Second Days Weekly Meeting at Lombard-street London called Quakers are justly desired to be present to hear themselves charged and proved guilty of the following things and they shall be freely heard to answer to their several Charges First WHereas William Penn hath accused me George Keith in a Publick Meeting at Ratcliffe of my being an Apostate and Impostor and endeavouring to pluck up the Testimony of Truth by the Roots and that he hath not either then or since after many months proved his Charge to be true tho' he promised to answer me before many Witnesses when I told him I thought to put him to prove his Charge in the Face of the Nation And I being conscious to my self that I am not guilty of his Charge I charge him to be guilty of False Accusation and Defamation and offer to prove him to be so as also I offer to prove him guilty out of his Printed Books which it doth not appear that he hath Retracted or Corrected of most Erroneous and hurtful Principles contrary to the Fundamental Doctrines of the Christian Faith and Religion delivered to us in the Holy Scriptures And also that he is guilty of gross Contradiction to himself Secondly Whereas Thomas Elwood hath Printed sundry Defamatory Books against me I charge him to be guilty of False Accusations Perversions and Forgeries contained in his said books as also of most Erroneous and Hurtful Principles to the great shame of his Profession and Scandal of Christian Religion and I offer to prove him to be so Thirdly Whereas George Whitehead did joyn with a prevailing Party in that called The Yearly Meeting of the Quakers in the Third Month 1695. to pass a most Unchristian Censure of Excommunication against me without any Proof or Charge of either Error in Doctrine or Evil Conversation I charge him to be guilty of False Accusation and of a most false and unjust Censure and offer to prove it against him As also I offer to prove the said George Whitehead out of some of his Printed Books which it doth not appear that he hath Retracted or Corrected guilty of most Erroneous and Hurtful Principles contrary to the Fundamental Doctrine of the Christian Faith and Religion Fourthly Whereas John Pennington hath Printed Defamatory Books against me and hath Accused me to be an Apostate I charge him to be guilty of

false Accusation and Defamation and I offer to prove it at the said Meeting Fifthly Whereas the Second Days Weekly Meeting of the People called Quakers in Lombard-street London hath approved or Countenanced the above-mentioned Scandalous Books and another late Book from Pensilvania signed by Caleb Pusey falsly called by him A modest Account from Pensilvania of the Principal Differences in a Point of Doctrine c. I charge them to be guilty of great Injustice against me as also of being guilty of the false Accusations Perversions Forgeries and false Doctrines contained in the said Books by their approving the same and allowing them to be publickly sold next Door to their Meeting-place by one of their own Profession If it happen that few or none of the above-mentioned Persons shall be present at the said Meeting being conscious to themselves of the badness of their Cause yet I do hereby declare and publish my full intention to be present God willing with my Friends at the said Place and Time appointed to make good the Charges against them And any moderate and Friendly People of other Professions have freedom to be present so far as there is room in the place to receive them without Crowd or Throng to hear what shall be said and proved in these matters above-mentioned GEORGE KEITH London the 11th day of the Third Month called May 1696. And here I think fit to give a true Account of the Just Cause I have to intimate such a Meeting IN my book called A Seasonable Information and Caveat against a scandalous book of Th. Elwood I made a profer to Th. Elwood to meet him at any Place and Time that he would appoint to prove him guilty of gross Forgery in matters of Fact c. and also of false Doctrine But he did no wise assent to any such proffer nor gave any rational Excuse for his Rufusal pretending he would not give G K. an Opportunity to gratifie the Rabble and disgrace his Profession he yet made of Truth by so publick a discovery of his ungoverned Passions What is this but great hypocrisie And no doubt if he or his Party thought to get any advantage against me such a Publick Appearance either in regard of the Cause or of what he and they call my ungoverned Passions they would greedily embrace it But the reality of the matter is they are not willing their great injustice as well as their insolent carriage and most unruly Passions in clandestine places should be discovered shutting the doors upon all but themselves that none that were equal and impartial Hearers and Observers might be present to be a check to their rude and insolent carriage against me many speaking to me at once which some among themselves reproved at the first Yearly Meeting I appeared among them Thus they seek to murther the Reputation of the Innocent in secret places And instead of assenting to my just proffer he prints another book against me filled with more than double to what was in his former book of Forgeries Perversions False Accusations and Misrepresentations And I having neither time nor ability of outward Estate to print Answers to him and others that heap book upon book against me with no charge to them they having got a way without any charge or cost to them to Print what they please And things being thus I appeal to all moderate persons whether this my intimation of such a Meeting in the defence of the Fundamental Doctrines of Christianity as the necessity of Faith in Christ as he outwardly suffered at Jerusalem to our Salvation Justification and Sanctification by the Blood of Christ outwardly shed the Resurrection of the Body that dyeth and Christs coming without us in his Glorified Body even the same that formerly suffered Death for our sins to Judge the Quick and the Dead All which I offer to prove have been opposed and contradicted by some of them being the common Faith generally and in common professed by Christians in all professions and for the defence of which all sincere Christians are jointly concerned and also in my just vindication both as a man and a Christian be not justifiable and commendable it being the best way I have at present to clear the Truth and my Innocency and discover their great injustice towards me and to Answer the proud and insulting boastings of my Adversaries And whereas in my late Book called A short List of some of the vile and gross Errors of Geo. Whitehead c. I proposed a just demand to William Penn to give me an Opportunity for him to make good his Charge against me at any publick Meeting of the People called Quakers in or about London instead of his assenting to my just Demand there comes forth a Third Book of Tho. Elwood multiplying his gross Forgeries Defamations and Misrepresentations against me and also containing most false and Antichristian Doctrine to the great dishonour of the blessed Name of Christ and the Christian Religion And as if G. W. and W. P. were not alive or not able to Answer for themselves he will needs Answer for them and the said Tho. Elwood puts a most impudent and notorious perversion upon my plain words in my Proposition to W. Penn saying of me as he has worded his Demand he seems to have bespoke a Publick Meeting that he might have done it himself see page 159. and page 160. of his Truth defended As if saith he he wanted such an Opportunity to prove himself an Apostate Let the Reader but read my words in my own Book and at the first sight he will see the Cheat and Forgery Observe Reader my words p. 32. And let him signifie to me the time and place where he will make it to appear I say not when I will that his Charge against me is true May I not well say that ever such a gross and impudent Forgerer Wrester and Perverter of a Mans words should be allowed or permitted to be an Agent Patron or Champion for what they call the Body of the People named Quakers and their Ministry is a sign that they are at a low Ebb when they make use of such Tools as T. E. is whom I can and do offer to prove not only to be guilty of gross Forgeries and Perversions and Antichristian Principles but grosly ignorant in that which he pretends to have knowledge of Humane Learning and who is guilty of Pedantick trifling and quibbling from meer Errors of the Press not so duly corrected yet obvious to any intelligent Reader And to my demanding the like Justice to be done me as some Years ago we demanded of the Baptists against Thomas Hicks he answereth in his last book falsly called Truth defended pag. 158. That betwixt that and this of mine there is in parallel For saith he in that there was a people concerned on each side c. Whereas W. P 's calling G. K. Apostate affects no body that I know of saith T. E. but himself and