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A66403	A manual, or, Three small and plain treatises viz. 1. Of prayer, or active, 2. Of principles, or positive, 3. Resolutions, or oppositive [brace] divinity / translated and collected out of the ancient writers, for the private use of a most noble lady, to preserve her from the danger of popery, by the Most Reverend Father in God, John, Lord Arch-Bishop of York.	Williams, John, 1582-1650.	1672 (1672)	Wing W2711; ESTC R38653	30,581	162

questioned But some aspersions more are cast upon the persons of your Ministers As that they lie wilfully and against their knowledge in points of Divinity and are thus zealous in the cause out of a desire only to preserve their great estates in the Church whereas our Priests have no other worldly comfort but the goodness of their cause and the testimonies of their consciences Prot. Let your common discretion be your judge in this case whether we that ground our doctrins upon the Word of God interpreted by those ten rules I formerly set down or these men that put all to the determination of the Church that is to their own proper phantasies and the gross exposition of an unlearned Pope are most likely to gull the World with crotchets and Chimaeras Besides you know how full this Kingdom is of men well read as in all sciences so especially in Divinity You know and yet none knowes it so well as they that best know him the profound learning and deep apprehension of the King himself as having perfectly digested the very body and bulk of all sacred Knowledge And is this a stage for ignorance imposture to play their parts on Or doth this learned Monarch the Lord of three Kingdoms woed and sought unto by all the Catholick Princes palliate his Religion in hope of a Bishoprick These are poor and toothless aspersions Then for our Ecclesiastical Estates they are so par'de and pol'de with duties and impositions all which had their Original from the Court of Rome that the time of the charge of breeding up a Minister would raise him a better means than he hath in the Church in any other Trade or Traffick whatsoever The King is gracious to his servants of all professions But a Country Minister cannot inne for the harvest of a whole year what a Jesuit can get in an hours confession Lastly concerning these professors of poverty the Priests and the Jesuits it is too well known they want no maintenance What by traducing our Nation abroad and seducing our people at home their bones are full of marrow and their eyes swell with fatness and what the Statute hath taken from us cogging and cheating hath drawn upon them I mean the privy Tithes and Benevolences of the Kingdom But to choke this Objection in one word That our means is no cause to keep us in this profession witness our Brethren in France and elsewhere who without the same means teach preach the selfe same doctrin Pap. They also inform us that your Ministers have neither learning nor honesty Prot. It is true indeed they teach their Novices that the greatest Doctor in our Church doth not understand the common grounds of Divinity and must of * necessity be put to his A B C again But common reason can inform you whether this be true or not Again they are only the base fugitives and discontented runnagates of our own Nation that spread these rumours who think their Countrey-men the grossest fools in Christendome that they dare thus amuse them and lead them by the nose with such impossible assertions And therefore I will give you a touch here how other Papists have ingeniously acknowledged the learning and piety of many Protestants Pope Pius commended Hus for learning and purity of life Alphonsus de Castro Oecolampadius for all kind of knowledge and the tongues especially Rhenanus also Conradus Pellican as a man of a wonderful sanctity and erudition Andradius likewise Chemnitius for a man of a sharp wit and great judgement Costerus all the Protestants for their civil behaviour their Alms their building of Hospitals and forbearing from reviling and swearing Gretzer himself our ordinary writers to be for the most part of great learning and judgement Stephen Paschier held Calvin worthy set his opinions aside to be compared for zeal and learning to the chief Doctors of the Catholick Church Erasmus held Luther of that integrity of life that his very enemies had nothing to cast in his dish Lindanus acknowledged Melancthon to be adorned with all kind of learning In a word your Writers themselves did so applaud the persons of their adversaries for learning and piety that Pope Clement the 8. was fain to command all your Controversie-writers to be reviewed and these graces and praises bestowed on our men to be blotted out and Expunged And therefore when you next hear a Jesuit in this theme think upon these true relations and withall laugh at him and pray for him Pap. Sir I have received some satisfaction that matters are not so far out of square in the Church of England as I have been informed But yet my conscience will not serve me to come to your congregations because there are beside these trivial many other points of doctrine never heard of amongst Protestants which be in very deed the Caballas and mysteries of the Roman-Catholick Religion You have been very tedious in your answers and declarations I pray you therefore bestow the last Chapter upon me to shew the reasons why so many Ladies and good Souls refuse to conform themselves to the Church of England Prot. With all my heart I will therefore end my speach with the summing up this fifth Chapter and leave the event to God and your Conscience 1. The Means of our Church-men are not so great as to make them maintain a false Religion but their Religion is so true as it makes them contented with any means 2. Yet in other Countreys where no hope of preferment appears there appears an equal zeal of our Religion 3. Our Church-men are commended for their lives and Learning by the pens of their prime Adversaries CHAP. VI. Reasons of refusal to leave the Romish Religion collected out of printed Authors Pap. I Cannot leave my Religion I. Reason Because we must simply believe the Church of Rome whether it teach true or false Stapl. Antidot in Evang. Luc. 10. 16. pag. 528. And if the Pope believe there is no life to come we must believe it as an Article of our Faith Busgradus And we must not hear Protestant Preachers though they preach the Truth Rhem. vpon Tit. 3. 10. And for your Scripture we little weigh it For the word of God if it be not expounded as the Church of Rome will have it is the word of the Devil Hosius de expresso verbo Dei II. Reason You rely too much upon the Gospel and S. Paul's Epistles in your Religion whereas the Gospel is but a fable of Christ as Pope Leo the tenth tells us Apol. of H. Stephen fol. 358. Smeton contra Hamilton pag. 104. And the Pope can dispense against the New Testament Panormit extra de divortiis And he may check when he pleases the Epistles of St. Paul Carolus Ruinus Consil 109. num 1. volum 5. And controul any thing avouched by all the Apostles Rota in decis 1. num 3. in noviss Anton. Maria in addit ad decis

righteously because it is the Will and Commandment of God 7. If you take more delight than you did in praying to God 8. If you thank God privately for these his good motions By these eight points you may soon know whether you have true faith or not Q. What is the infallible mark of true and justifying Faith A. The effectual applying of Christ and all his benefits to your own soul in particular And is then only effectual when it worketh by love an impartial obedience to the Commandments of Christ This application doth make a difference betwixt justifying Faith and all other kinds of Faith which cannot save us As Historical Faith which is a a bare assent Faith of Miracles which is a bare confidence added to assent Temporary Faith which is but a bare profession of the Faith for a time embraced only for the desire of Knowledge Credit Profit Q. What is the meaning of this assertion of S. Pauls that we are justified by faith alone A. It is meant of a practical and working Faith for even as when you give your alms to a Begger it is received by his hand alone and yet his hand is not alone when it receives these alms but accompanied with an arm sinews and arteries Even so when God offers unto you Christ and his righteousness you do receive him by Faith alone as it stands in opposition to the deeds of the Law and yet this Faith which receives Christ is never alone but still accompanied with Charity good Works In a word 1. To hold alms is proper to the hand and not the arm and to hold Christ proper to Faith not good works 2. You are justified by Faith alone and yet if your Faith be alone it cannot justifie you Q. What is the meaning of St. James when he saith That we are justified by works and not by Faith only A. His meaning is clearly that obedience to God's Commands as well as Faith in his Promises is absolutely required to our Justification Q. What is the least and weakest degree of Faith that I may build upon to keep me from despair in case I find not all those alterations in my self which you spake of before A. 1. If you desire Faith or pray unto God that you may desire Faith 2. If you can pray or desire of God to enable you to pray 3. If you find fault with your want of Faith and desire sometimes of God to help this want 4. If you dare not live indulgently in any one wilful or deadly sin but sincerely and earnestly strive against it Then you are for all your doubting the child of God RESOLVTIONS Oppositive DIVINITY OR The ordinary Objections of Papists against them of the Reformed Churches A DIALOGUE Papist Protestant CHAP. I. Of the Church Papist THe Church of England is no Church Protest That were very strange considering your own Writers conclude a Church to be there where there is found 1. Doctrine of salvation according to Scripture 2. the Vse of the Sacraments and 3. outward Discipline or Ecclesiastical Government although the Church-men should fall short of those Apostolical and primitive perfections which flourished in their predecessors Pap. Yea but it is not the Catholick Church mentioned in the Creed I believe in the Catholick Church Prot. 1. No more is the Church of Rome For there was no Church at all in Rome when the Creed was made by the Apostles at Hierusalem every Apostle making his Article when they were to depart to plant particular Churches in Rome England and other places 2. But our Church is a branch and portion of that Catholick Church as is also the Greek Armenian Aethiopian and Syrian as well if not rather than the Roman Church Pap. Peradventure these other Churches may be members of that Catholick Church as joyned and united with us but the union betwixt your Church and ours hath been cut asunder above an hundred years agone and therefore you are quite cut off from the Catholick Church Prot. This is more than you know or than I am bound to believe For This union of the members of the Catholick Church is inward not outward and therefore discerned only by God himself We never sundred our selves from the People or Church of Rome but from the Faction or Court of Rome not from the sincere doctrin of that Church but from the corruptions and innovations foisted into that Church And therefore although we be never so hated and excommunicated by your Priests yet we may be still united in internal society with your Church if you retain those principles of Religion sound and unaltered in the which our forefathers died and as we well ●ope were saved Pap. How are you then gone from us if you be still ●nited with us Prot. As the Prophets went from the corrupt Churches of the Jews and as Christ and his Apostles from the Scribes and Pharises clamando dissentiendo by crying out against your corruptions and dissenting from your innovations and this your own men allowed us to do Pap. I but some of your men say that we had no true Church of God in the West of many years before Luther's time Prot. Their meaning is to be limited in respect of the Predominant and prevailing Faction Your Church held I confess a saving profession of the Truthmof God but your Church-men mingled therewith many damnable impieties And these innovators only carrying the greatest shew of the Church are denied by our Writers to be the true Church of God Pap. This it is we Catholicks observe You dare not for all your malice deny the Church of Rome to have in some sort a saving profession of the truth of God but our Priests conclude directly that your Church hath no truth at all and that none can be saved in that Church Prot. As in every Kingdom the general estate is nothing so forward active quick and peremptory as the private Factions and yet is found at the last more wise and staied in final resolution So in the Catholick Church the Factions are ever more heady and precipitate in their denunciations of Heaven and Hell than the main body thereof Hence it cometh to pass that although the Greek Armenian Ethiopian and Syrian and for the most part the Protestant doth censure charitably of those Laicks who living rather in than of the Church of Rome hold the grounds of the doctrin of Salvation without any notorious mixtures with the late superstitions and impieties crept into the same yet doth the Papist Russeist Anabaptist Familist and Puritan hold no Church a Church of God but his own conventicle and all to be damn'd that are not of his society and combination Now what belief you shall afford these Boutefeux of the Catholick Church that dispose of Heaven and Hell as if it were their own Fee-simple I leave to your wisdom and common understanding Pap. Me thinks

Act of Reformation begining in sundry estates by reason partly of their divers shapes and forms of governments and partly of a great disadvantage thatone part of Christendom knew not what another did nor consulted with their fellows that so they might with unanimity proceed in the same did necessarily produce a seeming difference in the outward forms of particular Churches But loe the goodness and providence of Almighty God Although these Churches have several faces yet have they all but one heart there being no essential fundamental or material difference amongst any of us of the reformed Religion as you may easily find by reading the confessions of our several Churches And therefore for these odious Nick-names of Lutheran Calvinist Huguenot Zuinglian and the like be more sparing of them until you have reconcil'd your own Church-men as your Minorits and Dominicans about the conception of the Blessed Virgin your Jesuits and Dominicans about predestination and those dependant questions Your Sorbonists and Jesuits about the bounding and meeting out the Regal and Papal Authority and you shall find more doctrinal oppositions in your own than you can imagin ●n our Churches But keep you at home in your ●ative Country and look without envy or partia●ity upon this flourishing Church of England and ●ame me one Kingdom in all Europe that hath continued ●ery neer this hundred years in that constancy and ●mmutability of Doctrin or Discipline We are ordered with that consecration that Archbishop Cranmer was we renounce the Pope by that abjuration that Archbishop Cranmer did we subscribe to those Articles of Religion which Arch Bishop Cranmer in the Reformation pitch'd upon before we can be admitted to any Ecclesiastical function Some wild coults we have that start and boggle at the first if they see but their own shadows but by the discipline of the Church they are curb'd and fetch'd about again and taught in a little while to come on gently to this uniformity and subscription So that malice it self cannot challenge the Church of England this most glorious portion of that Catholick Church of any fractions or divisions in points of Doctrin Pap. Nay but I have often heard that you have no Bishops or Priests at all in your Church But that in the beginning of Q. Elizabeths reign Lay-men in the Parliament did appoint you Bishops who consecrated one another in a Tavern at the Nags-head in Cheapside and that your Priests were ordered only by these Parliamentary Prelates Prot. This tale of the Nags-head Harding Sanders and Stapleton have forged out of their own Nags-heads without any grounds or likelihood at all And yet as easily as they came by it put a Minister of our Church to an infinite deal of learned pains Who by His Majesties special commandment did search out the ancient Records of the Arch-bishop of Canterbury agnized since by many Priests and Jesuits in the Clink and other prisons and out of them hath composed a learned Book shewing the successive Consecrations of all the Bishops of England from that first convocation that banish'd the Pope about the year 1536 so as any Minister looking out that Bishop who gave him Orders may presently ascend in a right line of Bishops to those Prelates that lived in the Reign of Henry the eighth before the reformation And therefore if your own Priests be lawful you may not quarrel with ours differing only from yours in their renouncing of your impieties and superstitions Pap. This Record you speak of is somewhat to the purpose unless the heresie of those first Bishops did disable them for granting of lawful Consecrations and Orders Prot. Heretick indeed is a common word for us in the mouth of every Woman that is but a little Romaniz'd But is it not strange how he should be an Heretique that saies the Creed and the Lords Prayer in that literal and explicate sense and meaning that all the Fathers of the Church for the first 500 years understood the same Yet this is nothing to the point in hand For first if the Bishops in Queen Maries time were lawful notwithstanding their being consecrated by Cranmer and other tainted Bishops as you term them why may not the Bishops in Queen Elizabeth and King James his time expect the same priviledge And secondly your own Writers confess that Heresie which we suppose but not yield these Prelates fallen unto cannot rase out from that Character of a Bishop this inseparable power of consecrating and ordering Pap. Yet there remains an objection against your Church that it cannot possibly be a true Church because it is severed from the true visible head thereof the Pope of Rome Prot. This is a stale objection and soon answered The Church of Asia severed from Pope Victor in the year 200. Athanasius and his fellows from Faelix and Tiberius in the year 375. Cyprian and his Brethren yea and three National Councils from Pope Stephen in the year 250. the Bishops of Carthage Schismatized from all Popes of Rome for an hundred years together about the year 409. lastly the Greek Church cut off from the Roman for 300. years are sufficient testimonies there may be a true Church of God though severed and divided from the Pope of Rome And here in this Kingdom it was no Protestant but Popish Bishops that concluded in a National Synode our King might if he pleased create a Pope of his own in his own Kingdoms and Dominions and yet remain a member of the Catholick Church Pap. Well the best is you have been so tedious in your answers that I have I thank God forgotten all that you have said for your reformed Church Prot. But I will help that quickly by summing up of all into these twelve Positions 1. We have a Church as having Doctrine Salvation Discipline 2. It is a portion of the Catholick Church 3. It hath a Spiritual union of Doctrin with the untainted members of the Church of Rome 4. And yet hath severed her self from the Church of Rome by crying against and dissenting from her Superstitions 5. Which some of us hold no true Church of Gods in regard of the prevailing Faction 6. Although we judge charitably of the Salvation of some in that Church 7. Who notwithstanding are saved not as Papists but as Christians 8. And in one lump or Communion with this Church lived ours before the Reformation 9. Which then for want of a General did sever her self by a National Council from the same 10. Nor was it any by-respect of the Kings but God and the cry of that age that caused this reformation 11. Nor do our reformed Churches dissent amongst themselves in Doctrine but in outward policy and discipline only 12. Our Bishops and Priests come by a lineal Succession from Henry the eights time nor can a supposal of Heresie cut off this discent CHAP. II. Of the Scriptures Papist DOe you then hold this Church of yours