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A00604	Transubstantiation exploded: or An encounter vvith Richard the titularie Bishop of Chalcedon concerning Christ his presence at his holy table Faithfully related in a letter sent to D. Smith the Sorbonist, stiled by the Pope Ordinarie of England and Scotland. By Daniel Featley D.D. Whereunto is annexed a publique and solemne disputation held at Paris with Christopher Bagshaw D. in Theologie, and rector of Ave Marie Colledge.	Featley, Daniel, 1582-1645.; Bagshaw, Christopher, d. 1625?; Smith, Richard, 1566-1655.	1638 (1638)	STC 10740; ESTC S101890	135,836	299

this 12. yeares Which happinesse I ascribe to the evidence of truth on our side and not to any the least opinion of sufficiencie in my selfe who have ever studied that golden Text of the Apostle 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 The greater wrong doth ●…our Gnatho offer me in facing downe his Reader that in a challenge to Fisher the Jesuite I compare my selfe to a Lion and him to a butterflie saying Their strength with bulls let Lions trie and not persue the butterflie And he addeth in the Margent Featly of himselfe in his sacriledge It seemeth to me that S. E. having learned out of Saint Austin that there is a threefold lie 1. Officiosum an officious 2. Pernitiosum or malitiosum a malicious 3. Iocosum and a merry lie or lie in jest He thought himselfe obliged to make use of all three in his masters service his officious and malitious lies wee have heard before now he puts his wits to it to frame a jocosum mendacium to make himselfe and his Reader merry but having no occasion of any such jest from any words of mine hee breakes not a jest upon me but sheweth himselfe absurd and ridicu●…ous For the words I alleadge out of Martiall are not spoken in the singular but in the plurall number nor of my selfe but others If he hath not lost his sight together with his wit he might have seene a relation in the Margent to a booke of Fishers set out in the yeare 1626. in which he takes upon him to refute a Treatise of the Visibility of the Church put forth by George Abbot Lord Arch-Bishop of Canterburie and a Sermon of D Ushers Lord Arch-Bishop of Armath and a replie of D. White Lord Bishop of Elic These Lions I wisht in the Poets phrase to fall upon the bulls meaning the Popes bulls and not look after that sillie butterflie Fishers sorrie pamphlet intituled sundry relations This S. E. knew well enough to be my meaning but hee was disposed to play with the Lions paw ex Vngue saith he you may gather what a thing the Lion is not minding what Iunius out of Aelian observeth that if the Lion he any way distempered or diseased he makes himselfe whole upon the Apc. To verifie which emblem what mops and mowes doth he make with what Apish imitation and ridiculous scurrilitie doth hee sport his Reader saying that I brought my arguments written in paper and urged them so poorely that M. Porie did prompt him divers times And hereafter Universities must all neglect art in speech and reade your predicament which before times hath beene Featleus homo animal vivens corpus substantia thus in English accorto your Logicke Featley Featley Featley Featley Featley Featley where you the supreme genus of your new predicament are in predication to be common to other animals bodies and substances for so the supreme genus must be I could have answered these insulsos sales with a mycterisme but because Salomon adviseth sometimes to answer a foole least he b●…e too proud of his art or skill let therfore S. E. your Iester I should say your Chaplaine tell me by what rule of Doway Logicke doth this follow M. F. disliketh D. Smith his exposition this is my body that is this bread transubstantiated into my body is my body because it implieth a meere Tautologie affirming idem numero de eodem numero Ergo he overthroweth all the predicamentall classes In this proposition this my body is my body the predication is neither generis de specie nor speciei de individuo nor accidentis de subjecto but ejusdem rei numero de eadem numero the subjectū and praedicatum are both idem re ratione and therfore such an identicall proposition may be remooved and casheered out of Logick without any disturbing of the predicamentall rankes or files And that hee may farther know that I have climbed up Porphyrie his predicamentall tree as well as hee I will make in it a bower or two for him and his fellowes to shade themselves under them Vide arborem Place this before folio 229. Vtram harum mauis accipe Μσ̄ορος Ed St Jo Hig Jo Fl. Pithecus Simia Caudata absque cauda Brutum Ferum Cicur Animal Rationale Irrationale ρα●●ος Ed St Io Hig Io Fl Scurra Dicax Facetus Infacetus mendax Serius Iocosus maledicus ueriloquus falsiloquus PAR. 17. A serious exhortation to D. Smith otherwise Bishop of Chalcedon to returne home to his dearest mother the Church of England and famous Nurse the Vniversity of Oxford THus leaving your Chaplaine in a bad predicamens I returne to your selfe and let me be bold to speake to you in the words of the blessed Martyr Saint Cyprian win the day in the edge of the evening enter yet into the Lords vineyard though at the eleventh houre You were an ancient Doctor of Divinity when I conferred with you at Paris 22. yeares agoe and therefore now you cannot in reason but thinke of the day of your dissolution and in Religion also of making your accounts ready which you know ere long will be called for from you How will you dare to appeare before him who is the Way the Truth and the Life if you continue still perverting his Way impugning his Truth therby depriving your selfe and others of his Life O that I might be so happie as Iason was with my darts to open your aposteme and wound you into health and by arguments to confute you into heaven Take I desire you this occasion of replying to my answers to retrive your former thoughts and to examine upon what grounds you left both your deerest Mother the Church of England and your famous Nurse the University of Oxford Enter into a serious consideration what an ill change you have made of home for banishment of security for danger of allegiance for disloyalty of truth for errour of Scripture doctrine for traditions and legendarie fables of Religion for Superstition of the pure worship of God in Spirit for manifold Idolatry of Jerusalem for Babylon of Christ for Antichrist and the Lord of his infinite mercy annoint your eyes with the eye-salve of the Spirit that you may see your errors before you go hence and be no more seene August 31. 1634. Yours as farre as you are Christs D. F. The true Relation of a Disputation betweene M. Featley and D. Bagshaw drawne out of the notes of M. Ashley and M. Ezekiel Arscot taken in the Conference at Paris Anno Dom. 1612. MAster Featley demanding of D. Bagshaw whether hee would joyne in prayer with him and the other refusing made a short prayer to himselfe and after he had ended it began the Disputation as followeth M. F. The Question we are to debate to give satisfaction to this Honourable Assembly is Whether the Body of Christ be truly really and substantially contained in the Sacrament under the formes of bread and wine as the

disputation in the Synod of Basil betweene the Huzzites and your Prelats and Doctors in the yeare of o●… Lord 1438. Wherein Iohannes Rok●… zanus the Taborite and Petrus P●… mus our Countrey man so worth●… acquitted themselves in the defer●… of the Bohemian Articles that they r●… gained from that Synod the free use●… the holy cup in the Sacrament for t●… Laity Witnesse the disputation betweene Martin Luther and Eckius 〈◊〉 at Lipsia by the Appointment of Du●… George of Saxonie Anno 15●…9 〈◊〉 which I may say as the Oratour speaketh of Marcellus his battell wit●… Hanniball at Nola it gave the first li●… to the reformed partie in Germany an●… after it the affaires of religion went 〈◊〉 most prosperously Witnesse the disputation at Zurick appointed by the Bishop of Constance betweene Faber S●…apulensis and Zuinglius Anno 1523. at which the Champion for the Romish partie was so daunted that after a flourish he said in that great assemblie that the cognition and determination of differences in religion pertained to a generall councell which was neare at hand and that he would confute the doctrine of his adversary by writing dispute he would no longer the issue was the Senate of Zuricke presently proclaimed reformation Witnesse the disputation a●… Baden Anno 1525. betweene Oecolampadius and Eckius where Eckius sate downe by the losse and the Church gained all the reformed Pagi of Helvetia Witnesse the disputation at Berne in Anno 1527. betweene Conradus Treyerus an Augustin Frier and Martin Bucer This disputation held 19. daies the issue whereof was a pillar erected by the Senate at Berne in which they wrote in golden letters the day and yeare of their reformation To come neerer home Witnesse the disputation begun a●… Westminster by the commandement of Queene Elizabeth Anno 1559. betweene D. Story Bishop of Chichester D. Cocks M. Whitehead M. Grindol M. Horne D. Sands M. Gest M. Elmer M. Iewel on the one side for the Protestants and the Bishops of Winchester Litchfield Chester Carlile Lincolne D. Cole D. Harpsfield D. Langdale D. Chedsey on the other side in which after the Protestants had given the charge the Popish party presently sounded a retreat and upon frivolous pretences brake up the conference witnesse the Epistle of Gerson to the Arch-Bishop of Prague in which hee disswadeth him from putting the matter of Religion to a Triall in disputation because by such a course taken with the Huzzites the noble forerunners of our protestant faith the people would be scandalized and the wound given already to the Church would be made worse by the cure And lastly witnesse the determination of k Alfonsus a Castro we ought not saith he publikely to dispute with an hereticke especially if he be pertinacious for heretikes are most nimble in disputation and very skilfull to spread nets of arguments as we have an example in the publike disputation with Luther at Lipsia I had no reason therefore to doubt our arguments or cause which like Caesar hath ever beene victorious Yet partly because I had not as then spent so much time in the studie of controversies as I thought requisite for him who was to encounter with veterani milites old souldiers of the Popes traine band partly because I knew whatsoever my performance might be the major part of the spectators addicted to the Romish partie would doe me no right in the relation I carefully avoided all conflicts with them till by a wile I was drawne into the lists with Christopher Bagshan D. D. sometimes fellow of Baily Colledge in Oxford and afterwards Principall of Gloster-Hall This D. I met at M. Alexanders a Scottish Papist his house at a dinner to which my Lord Embassadours Secretary M. Woodford and my selfe were invited At the last service M. Alexander blew the coale and D. Bagshan presently tooke fire and immediately after dinner we fell 〈◊〉 it with great vehemency for man●… houres What this conference wroug●… with others there present I cannot say but sure I am it left many scruples 〈◊〉 M. Alexanders minde From that ho●… he began to question the Romish Religion in which hee was borne and bre●… and divers times after he repaired to m●… to instruct him more fully in the doctrine of the reformed Churches a●… when he lay upon his death bed he ea●… nestly desired those about him to se●… for me with all speed but they bei●… zealous in the Romish Religion a●… conceiving that my conference wi●… him would set him further of from t●… same fulfilled not his last desire but in stead of me brought to him a Popis●… Priest who finding him drawing on 〈◊〉 his end offered to administer to hi●… their Sacrament of extreame unction which he refused to receive from him This a servant of his with weeping eyes after his buriall related at my Lord Embassadours house My nex●… conflict was with D. Stevens occasioned by an English Gentlewoman wh●… falling into want and being relieve●… 〈◊〉 his meanes was easily drawne by ●…m to heare their Lent Sermons and at Easter the Papists who had contributed to her necessities made full account that then she would communicate with them and renounce our Church But that she might not be thought to be drawne to them for temporall respects and that D. Stevens might have the honour to win her from us by disputation he and she both by themselves and their friends importuned me to give them a meeting at M. Porie his Chamber in the Fauxburg of Saint Germaines I fought at the first what I could to put it off because I had an inckling that this conference was sought for onely to give some colour to her intended revolt from us yet being deepely adjured by her as I tendered the good of a soule bought with Christs blood and being directly challenged in the end by D. Stevens I met at the time and place appointed Where the Doctor made an eloquent speech imbroidered with all variety of learning wherewith many there present were much taken but when he came to dispute and was tied to propound his arguments in a syllogisticall forme and so propounding the●… received some unexpected answers 〈◊〉 quite lost himselfe being derided 〈◊〉 some and pittied by others in reg●… of his great age At the next meeti●… which was farre more solemne 〈◊〉 Lord Clifford and divers other perso●… of great quality being present D. S●…vens gave way to D. Bagshau to disp●… for him who first answered and af●… opposed in the question by the audit●… proposed and by us stated the sum●… of which disputation was taken 〈◊〉 M. Arscot and M. Ashley there prese●… and by M. M. P. sent over to his Gr●… of Canterbury The Gentlewo●… after these conferences gave lesse ho●… to the Papists then before whereup●… their charity waxing cold towards h●… the next newes I heard of her was t●… she was cast in prison for debt wh●… I visiting her found her constant in 〈◊〉 truth and

mattereth not much domesticum testimonium is of little force in this case it will add no more to you then it can detract from me For love looketh through that end of the perspective glasse which maketh the object seeme bigger but hatred through that end which maketh it seeme lesse then in truth it is Be it 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 or 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 or 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 selfe flattery or servile flatterie I passe by it but I cannot so lightly passe the shamelesse slanders which I finde in this pamphlet cast by S. E. upon the dead and the living That you may be a Chevalter de gloire and a renowned conquerour M Knevet must be your prize and die at Venice a Proselyte For so S. E. your Herauld proclaimes to the world M. Knevet upon the Ministers poore carriage in the dispute and Tergiversation afterwards when he should have answered disliked the Protestants cause which hee saw their Champion could not make good with argument in the presence of a Scholler not durst face to face appeare to defend it and soone afterwards was reconciled to the Church and at Venice died a Catholike In this whole passage there is not a word true in your sense but onely that M. Knevet died at Venice if hee were reconciled to your Romish Church and died a Papist name me the Priest who reconciled him and on his death bed annealed him and after his death buried him with your Romish rites and bring some good proofe and testimonie hereof to cleare your Chaplaine from the fowle imputation of belying the dead Verily of all fowle we most hate and detest the crowes and of all beasts the Iackalls because the one diggs up the graves and devoureth the flesh the other picketh out the eyes of the dead Had M. Knevet after he left France and travelled into Italy when hee was out of hearing the divine harpe of Orpheus I meane the preaching of the Gospell beene enchaunted with your Syren song●… I should have more grieved then marveiled at it he being a young Gentleman of a facile and affable disposition and not deeply learned But the truth is he was constant in the truth of his Religion to his last breath and as the Lord Knevet and other of his alliance and M. Russell and other of his acquaintance at Venice can testifie he crowned his other good parts and graces with perseverance in the Orthodox faith to the end Howbeit because Venice is farre off and M. Knevet being dead cannot speake for himselfe your Knight of the post S. E. thought he might securely by an officious lie tending so much to your reputation and credit of the Catholique cause indeare himselfe to your Lordship For he knew well mortui non mordent Nulli gravis est percussus Achilles But certainely as he there forfeiteth his honestie so hee forfeited his wits also when p. 23. with a forehead made o●… the same brasse whereof the images are he daily worshippeth he affirmes in print that since our Conference at Paris in England it selfe twise to his knowledge I refused to meete your Lordship in dispute For who will beleeve that your Lordship whom your very enemies acknowledge to be endewed with a very great measure of wisedome could be so carelesse of your selfe as comming into England with faculties from the Pope and thereby incurring the penalty of the lawes that touched not onely your Miter but your head to send two challenges to the Arch-Bishops Chaplaine in house to meet you at a disputation especially after you heard that there were two Proclamations out for your apprehension No Sir 't is well knowne that when you were in England you played least in sight and concealed your selfe not onely from Protestants but from those who were most addicted to your Romish religion whereof they complaine in print In England say they it is a very hard matter to have accesse to the Bishop and his Vicars because they most warily hide themselves and againe the Bishop of Chalcedon cannot be spoken withall without probable danger of imprisonment death banishment or grievous trouble and as well himselfe as his Vicars lurk for feare of persecution As for my declining a second meeting with you in France which you upbraid me with p. 180. usque 188. the indiffident Reader even by your own relation will perceive that the feare and difference whi●…h hindred the second meeting was on your part and not on mine for as your selfe relate p. 184. I sent word by M. Knevet to you that I would be ready to meete you the next weeke upon condition a day might be allowed me to prosecute the rest of my arguments and againe p. 186. hea●…ing of your purpose to leave Paris on the Friday following I sent to you the Munday before word by M. Knevet that I would meete with you upon Tuesday on condition that I might have leave first to propose all the rest of my arguments which you refused to give way unto You felt the smart of our weapons in the first conflict in such sort that you would not meete the second time unlesse I put in good security that I would not so much as draw upon you or shew you my weapons Yea but say you 't is evident I declined the conflict by my owne words to one of my friends whom I told that Catholickes brought so many testimonies of Fathers to prove the reall presence that there was need of many weekes to reade them over And over against the words many testimonies you quote in the Margent Trait●…è du S. Sacrament de l'Eucharistie par l'illust●… Cardinal deu Perron Paris 1622. I answer as Tully doth for Coelius that there is little coherence and much lesse verity in this objection this calumnie like a bubble dissolveth it selfe 'T is well knowne I never tearme you Catholicks but Papists neither could the many testimonies alleadged by Cardinall Perron for the r●…all presence deterre me from a second encounter with you in the mo●…th of September Anno 1612. for that booke of Perron as you your selfe note was printed in the yeare 1622. so that to make your relation true I must needs have had some speciall revelation that the above named Cardinall ten yeares after would print a booke of the Sacrament so fraught with Testimonies of the Fathers that there needed many weekes to reade them Yet farther to convince you that I feared not to supply the place of a Respondent in this very question notwithstanding all that Bellarmine and Perron and Co●…ceus or Garetius alleadge out of the Fathers for your carnall presence a few w●…ckes after our Conference I encountred D. Bagshaw at Paris and since M. ●…sher and M. Musket and D. Egleston and M. Wood in England and answered all they could alleadge out of Scriptures or Fathers in this point Neither hath any of them as yet impeached any of my answers extant in print now