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A79438 A theological dialogue: containing the defence and justification of Dr. John Owen from the forty two errors charged upon him by Mr. Richard Baxter in a certain manuscript about communion in lyturgical worship. Chauncy, Isaac, 1632-1712. 1684 (1684) Wing C3757aA; ESTC R230946 46,146 50

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is an untruth no doubt but Lyturgies were abused to cherish Ignorance and Negligence But that the neglect was total is not true whether you respect all the Churches or all the parts of Worship and Ordinances J. O. We say it hath been abused to a total neglect by many you call Churches and Ordinances it would be sad if it should be in all Churches and Ordinances but a total in not a few is sufficiently known We apply not total to the universal Church but to some Churches only neither hath the Universal Church in all Ages served God by Lyturgies nor in any one I believe Manuscript 2. When a Plea for the work of the Holy Ghost began to be revived it produced all the Enmity Hatred and contempt of and against the Spirit of God himself and his whole work in the Church which the whole world is now filled withal R. B. That word his whole work in the Church is another mis-report it is not his whole Work that is so contemned Error 28. J. O. The whole work of Christ in his Church is by his Institutions and the gifts and graces of his holy Spirit and if these be hated and contemned his whole work is hated and contemned R. B And it s a palpable mistake that the foresaid scorn of all done by the Spirit ariseth from hence alone a justification of their devised way of Worship it ariseth more from a malignant Enmity to serious Godliness c. Error 29. J. O. But what hath caused that in the case mentioned Hath not a justification of their devised Worship Causa causae est causa causati When we say the only Cause we mean the principal first moving causer causa procreans it s here Manuscript All the reproaches that are daily cast on the Spirit of Prayer all the contempt and scorn which all Duties of Religious Worship performed by his Aid and Assistance are entertained withal ariseth from hence alone namely a justification of their devised way of Worship as the only true way and means thereof Take this away and the wrath and anger of men against the Spirit of God and his work in the Worship of the Church will be abated yea the necessity of them will be Evident This me cann't comply with least we approve of the Original design of it and partake in the sins which proceed from it J. O. You charge no Error here do you R. B. No but seeing you and your dividing Separatists are branded with D. S. now my Irons are hot I 'll add R. too the first Letter of my own Name R. B. I will tell you a story how the Separatists were the Causes of all the Mischiefs in the late Mutations And amongst the rest you know Oliver comes to be made Protector the Fundamental Laws made among themselves by we know not whom Parliament Lords made by him Parliaments called and broken at his pleasure the Government of the Counties put into the hands of Major Generals After the Death of Oliver his Son set up and his Parliament first pull'd down in which you told me you were an Agent and next himself J. O. Let all this be granted it amounts to no more then this That I was an Agent in pulling down a Usurper I pray where lies the most Loyalty in being an Agent to aid and assist and maintain such a one or to contribute towards the pulling him down I know you were mightily displeased with me and the Army for it and I remember a remarkable passage in your Epistle to them in the Preface of your Holy Common-wealth where you say For my part you see the worst that I designed by this Book which was written while the LORD PROTECTOR prudently piously faithfully to his Immortal Honour how ill soever you have used him did Exercise the Government R. B. Ay but this you could not be contented with to pull down the Protector but you must break the Army in pieces You were once Pastor to the Officers of the Army when they pull'd down and set up and again pull'd down till they had turned the Army Bulwarks into Atoms And when you saw what they had done said I wonder the People do not cast stones at us as we go along the Streets was not this a blaming of the flock J. O. Very Good Sir and was there any disloyalty in all this If all the simple things that we have said must be told and that you have writ I could tell tales too but there is so much Printed of it that I need not fill pages with it and I must tell you it 's that which is now much worse resented by the World then any thing you can report of me but I seek not Revenge though I could give you heap measure in these matters But if your hand be in at it once more you shall be sure to have that which you deserve in such cases That which is Sauce for a Goose is so for a Gander also I shall only add one thing that whereas you charge Separatists as you call them for the great Dividers in this Land Let me tell you there was never an hundred of Separatists this Hundred years living together that have made more dangerous divisions in matters of Religion both in Doctrine and Discipline then you have done And with such Errors that it may be the Church had hardly seen or at least been vexed with at this day had you not spawned them into her Bosom and given Credit and Life by your Authority to some Old and Exploded Ones by most Protestants Manuscript Argument 3. That in Religious Worship which derogates from the Kingly Office of Jesus Christ so far as it doth is false Worship Vnto the Office of Christ it inseparably belongs that he is the Sole Lawgiver of his Church in all the Worship of God The Rule of his Government herein is Teach men to do all and observe whatever I Command But the Worship treated about consists wholly in the Institutions Commands Prescriptions Orders and Rules of men and on the Authority of me● alone doth their Impositions on the practice of the Church depend What is this but to Renounce the Kingly Office of Christ in the Church R. B. To your Major of your Third Argument I answer First there is that in Worship as the badness of men c. which is no part of Worship and therefore no false Worship J. O. This is the Old Crambe ter Coctum tollere Subjectum and let the Predicatum go whistle we will draw out this kind of Argument at length and send it to the boys at Oxford to course with That in Religious Worship which is no part of Worship is no false Worship But there is that in Religious Worship as the badness of men which is no part of Worship Ergo there is that in Worship which is no false Worship And now you have proved that no Worship is no false Worship but let me tell you seeing you are so