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A49373 Persecution detected in all his new forms: or, A dialogue between Nimrod policy, and Nathanael innocency Wherein persecution is followed and detected in his chiefest tabernacles; being packing apace out of his old g[...]bs of presbytery into his swept and garnisht forms of independency and the water-way: wherein is shewed the originall, and name, and interest of policy, with many of his assistants; and also of innocency: with the epitome of a true Christian: also several considerable queres touching God, his word, his essence; and Christ, and his works in man; as touching heaven, and hell, and sin, and the sabbath &c. of Moses; touching the true rest and centre of a Christian. By John Lane, late quartermaster to Sir Hardresse Wallers regiment. Lane, John, quartermaster. 1652 (1652) Wing L338; ESTC R213607 17,333 26

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is a sinner or defiled therewith can approach it being a life that only such as are born of God and cannot sin live in they only seeing the Emnity slain and the handwriting of a 〈…〉 formality blotted out and that which did let fully taken out of the way and the partition wall broken down they also seeing Christ the second time without sin unto salvation and the only doer away of sin and the bringer in of everlasting righteousnesse his own where sin shall be no more the Inhabitants of this Sion can sing Halelujah Halelujah Pol. Sir your name and your Countrey if it be as you say are paradoxicall unto me it is to me like the terra incognita or at best but Utopian Anarchy be pleased to be more plain and not to be elevated i● to such high notionall supercelestiall things as those of your Countrey which you say is Sion c. but Sir if you shall please to speak of su● thinge as are in the sphere I move in viz. the terrestiall world and the things thereof I am for you Inno. Well Sir I shall conform to your desire only for discourse 〈…〉 ping for more oportunity with you to speak touching the premises but Sir before we go on I shall intreat you to give me your name Countrey and interest but as briefly as you may for that you did desire the same of me and then I shall the more freely speak as I know you Pol. Sir your request seemeth but rationall and no other then what I did desire of you and therefore I shall give you my name Countrey and interest so far as I have time at present my name I am not ashamed of although it be Policy I was never in more repute then now for most persons endeavour to serve me either for fear or Love but because there be many of that name I shall tell thee which of them I am viz. I am Christian policy for lawfull propriety and civill Society and for that godlinesse which hath the promise of this life c. and is great gain I am also for toleration of the true Religion but for the punishment of sin and blasphemy besides I 'le tell you that I am not all that call themselves Christian Policy for I am not a Papist or Episcoparian or Presbyterian Inno. Oh Sir are you Mr. Policy you shall not need any further to tell me what you are or what you are not or what your Countrey and interest is for if I am not much mistaken I know you à summo ad imum from the top to the bottom and could if I might detect and dissect you to the purpose from your originall parents as also where you have abode ever since you were as also who and what interests have been and are and will be ingaged for you that like those Merchants Revel. 18. 11. will cry Alas alas when you fall but Sir are you a Christian Politician I do not find that word Politician in those sayings of Christ which he left as precepts except that it be where he saith The Kings of the Gentiles exercise lordship c. but ye shall not do so for the greatest amongst you shall be the servant But Sir it seemeth by your words you are not Mr. Policy of Asia Africa or America with great part of Europe wherefore we shall not ●uch meddle with those parts at present but Sir be pleased to pardon my oldnesse with you as also my digression from what I suppose you have mind to speak of are not you Mr. Policy whose foundation was laid ●n the head of the Serpent viz worldly wisdome which hath been and enmity to the universall designs of the Father viz. of peace love joy in the Creation are not you he that by depriving creatures of their ●aturall propriety does make the Creation grone and travell in pain to●ether and miserably destroy one the other to keep you dominion over them and Sir pray tell me was not Mimrod that mighty man Hunter your first Father that laid a foundation for you in invading his fellows naturall rights and then began to defend himself and offend his neighbours by Mars-like force and as Josephus the Jewish Historographer reporteth then began weights and measures and then saith he began knavery a strange saying that those things viz. weights and measures which we measure that little honesty we have by should be called so Beside Mr. Policy were not Mr. Divell God blesse us Mr. Antichrist Mr. Sin Mrs. Babilon Mr. Beast Mr. Dragon with the false Prophet all of them your near relations or near friends with that great Whore that r●d●th on many waters And is not Mr. Honor Mr. Pride Mr. Gain Mr. Cruelty and Oppression with Mr. Mars and Mr. Jupiter ingaged for you and your cause as also Mr. Buyer and Seller and also many powers Military Ecclesiastique and civill so called with Mr. Scholar Mr. Wit Mr. Wisdome Mr. Art And Mr. Policy is it not for you that many Cains Esaus and Caesars have ingaged many millions of poor harmlesse creatures to destroy and murther one the other for little else then to help you keep themselves miserable slaves and also to keep up the Emperiall Monarchicall humors and wills and honors and profits of those that oppressed them Policy Sir your many questions that you ask of me do not concern me to answer and therefore I shall forbear to do it you may suspect me to be what you please and also think many of those you name to be my friends and assistants but Sir I shall assure you in the word of a gentleman and a Christian that although I am Policy yet am I only Christian Policy and no other but Sir to wave this kind of criticall discourse and to fall to some other is my desire for the former needlesse Genealogies may gender strifes c. or else I must be silent Inno. Well Mr. Policy you may excuse the matter as well as you can but I do much suspect you to be of kin to those afore named but Sir because I am willing to have a little further discourse with you J shall willingly proceed to some other things although you know Sir we must 〈◊〉 brief what is the next thing you will speak to Pol. Sir My next question is touching new things when do you thing all things will become new but more particularly the P Inno. Sir if you mean spiritually J think all things will become new when all the old things are passed away c. but touching the P. being new I think it will not be so long as the old corrupt interests of Malignant humors remain unpurged in some bodies there be sometimes members that purging will not cause the dissolving and evacuation of many earthly humors especially if they be of the nature of Sol. But Sir I can assure you people do much desire new things and to be free from all old oppressions in body and mind and they do