but smale the other verie great For the rest though it were true that you could compt your selues by millions that you were spreade ouer all France yet should you get no greate aduantage S. c S. August serm 2. in Psal 36. Augustine compareing you by good reason to smoake which doth vanish so much the sooner by how much it is greater and more dilated abroade From the multitude of your brethren you make a passage to the antiquitie of your religion professing it to be Christian and such as Iesus-Christ did institute it and as the Apostles did publish and put it downe in writing vpon which I will obserne foure things First I say that ether your meaning is that you haue the ancient doctrine of the Church though receaued of new or that you had and conserued il from all ages by an vninterrupted succession If the first albeit indeede it is false suppose it were granted you it were yet vnprofitable the auncient and true doctrine being insufficient if a man haue not the Church which haue he cannot vnlesse he haue continually retayned the true doctrine If the second after you shall haue spent much labour to proue your assertiō yet shall you gather no other fruite ther of then to shew your antiquitie bounded with the terme of one age wheras that of the Church of Iesus-Christ hath sixteene ages vpon its heade It is true that your religion is auncient in a certaine sense sith as we shall se hereafter it is compounded of diuers heresies which were condemned in the primitiue Church yea euen from the tyme of the Apostles but you cannot stile it auncient as though the body of your beleife all the substance of your faith had from former ages bene beleeued it being euident that the Article of iustification by speciall faith which is a part of the life of your religion was vnknowen before the age in which we liue I adde this word speciall because though Eunomius and other more auncient a Apud S. Aug. haeres 54. Et lib. de fid oper c. 14. Heretiques said that man was iustified by onely faith speaking of dogmaticall Faith yet none before Luther held that this iustifying Faith did consiste in the speciall apprehension that each one of the faithfull made of the Iustice of Iesus Christ which is applyed by the beliefe they haue to be iustified For the rest you being able to name none who before b Luth. tom 7. Primus fui cui Deus ea quaevobis praedicata sunt reuelare dignatus est Luther made profession of your whole beliefe Luth. tom 2. in formula Missae ait Nostram rationem colen de Deum per Missam fuisse velerem inolitā suam verorecentem insuetam Luth. tom 2. ad Princip Bohem. Deus hoc tempore lucem sui Euāgelij rursus accendit Luth. tom 5. in cap. 1. 1. ad Corinth Absque sua opera nullum verbum neiota quidem de Euangelio fuisset auditum and that great prophete of your Law boasting in plaine termes that he was the first to whom God vout safed to reueale what he preached and further clearely accnowledging the manner of seruing and honoring God in the Masse to haue bene auncient and to haue taken roote and confessing his of the contrarie side to be now and vnaccustomed saying moreouer that God in his tyme had lightened of nevv the light of the Ghospell which without him one iota had not bene heard of And Againe a Caluine assureing vs that it was he that first vndertooke the cause of the Ghospell which is the first who shevved the way to others who can affirme that your religion hath more then an hundred years of antiquitie None as I conceaue Calu. in 2. defens contr Vuestphal ait de Luthero quod causam Euangelij agere caeperit viam primus demonstrauerit will dare to thinke it especially if they reflect vpon that which one of your brethren of the same Age with Luthere secretarie of the Elector of Saxonie first Abettour saith such a confession was neuer made not onely within these thousand yeares b Spalat in relat confess August Cont. Epistolam fundamentalem cap. 4. but euen since the worlds creation nor is the like confession found in any historie in any Father in any Authour Secondly I say that imitating Luther who puts the word Catholique out of the Creede you doe not in this place attribute it to your religion knowing in your consciences that the name Catholike a name of so greate waight that it euen retayned S. Augustine in the Church doth in no sorte appertayne vnto you It appertaynes not-vnto you as it doth determine that of all Christian societies which contaynes the greatest multitude as I haue alreadie shewen Nor yet as it signifies vniuersalitie and diffusion whether we regard tymes or places it being euident both because you deriue not your origine from Iesus Christ and his Apostles by an vninterrupted succession of your predecessours who haue subsisted in all tymes and withall for that you are reduced to so narrow bounds that you cannot be said to be spread ouer the greatest part of the world Thirdly I say that since you are no Catholikes you cannot be tearmed Christians if the Fathers may be beleeued for a Pacianus Epist 1. Christianus mihi nomē est Catholicus cognomen illud me nuncupat istud ostendit S. Pacian saith that the name of Catholike is the surname of Christians and b Catholica Ecclesia nomen propriū est huius sanctae Ecclesiae matris omniū nostrum S. Cyrille the proper name of the holy Church of Iesus-Christ You cannot trulie be Christians because as we haue shewen your beliefe is hereticall and consequently wholy opposite to Christian religion which cannot be such for which cause Tertullian S. Cyprian S. Athanasius S. Augustine and others affirme Lib. de pudicitia Lib. 4. ep 2. Serm. 2. cont Arr. Lib. de grat Christs c. 11. that an heretike is not to be tearmed Christian Fourthly I note that you doe impertinently sustayne that your religion was instituted by Iesus-Christ published and put downe in writing by the Apostles sithence being hereticall as I haue alreadie said and as shall be made manifest in the 16. Chap. of this booke it is contrarie to the institution of Iesus-Christ and that seeing at manifestly contradicteth the scripture in diuers points as I will presently iustifie though it be easie for you to affirme that it is conformable to that which the Apostles left in writing yet will you find it impossible to verifie the same or to hinder a man to accnowledge the contrarie The scripture saith that a Iacob 2. vers 24. Operibus iustificatur homo non ex fide tantū Confession Françoise article 20 Nous croyous que nous sommes faits participans de ceste Iustice par la seule foy a man is not iustified by faith onely you say that he
nor are good for any thing but to giue a false alarme and content such as please themselues to heare calumnies cast out against the Church This moues you to cry out that Catholike religion is made a traffike and that Prelates intrench vpon the liuing and the deade Is it to intrench vpon the deade to doe that which we see hath bene practised in the primitiue Church in the tyme of a Tert. â—l de cer mil. c. 3. Oblationes pro defunctis pro natalitiis annua die faci mus Item l de Monoga pro anima eius offerat annuis diebus Tertul. b Cyprian ep 66. refert vt si quis frater clericum tutorem nominas set non offeretur pro eo nec saecrificium pro dormitatione eius celebraretur S. Cyprian and others and the contrarie to which is condeÌ„ned for heresie in the persoÌ„ of Aerius by the relation of a Aug haec 53. Epiphan har 75. S. Augustine and S. Epiphanius As your beliefe resembles that of the auncient Heresiarkes condemned by the Church so your manner of proceeding is not vnlike to theirs for the Manichees did vpbraide S. Augustine Vigilantius and S. Hierome that for their owne profit and interest they defeÌ„ded the doctrine of the Church which is the verie same which now you obiect against vs. The Prelates nether intrench vpon the liuing nor the deade but doe greatly assiste the one and the other wheras you abuse them both They assiste the liuing by instructions and Sacraments the liuing and the deade by their prayers and their sacryfices wheras you doe altogether neglect the deade and the care which you haue of the liuing hath no other effect then the death of their soules You say that the Pope for some ages past hath hindred kings to read the Scriptures Where doe you find that prohibition The Popes would alwayes exceedingly reioyce that kings who are learned and are addicted to reading should exactly reade them being confident that by the assistaÌ„ce of learned men who are able to explicate the sense vnto theÌ„ they will clearly discouer that the gouerment of the Church is not built vpon the ignorance of the word of God as you calumniate but that your religion is grounded vpon the corruptions and bad interpretations of that sacred word They will also see that the Pope makes not himselfe the supreame iudge of faith but that he was constituted such by God and the Church which is the pillar and rocke of truth seeing God did constitute Peter a Petra or rocke vpon which it is built And indeede S. Hierome though most conuersant in all holy Scripture did yet beseech Pope Damasus that he would decree whether we ought to say one or thee hypostases professing that he would hold as an article of faith what he defined Had not S. Bernard also the Scripture before his eyes when he wrote to Pope Innocent the II. that all the dangers and scandalls which rise in the kingdome of God ought to be referred to his Apostleshippe especially things concerning faith Vvas the Scripture vnknowen to IustiniaÌ„ the Emperour when he saith in his Epistle to Pope Iohn the II. we suffer nothing to passe which belongs to the state of the Church vnknowen to your Holines who is the heade of all the holy Churches Vvhy did the Ecumenicall Councells held in the primitiue Church demand the confirmation of their Decrees of the Pope if they knew not by holy write that they were obliged therunto Vvas not the Scripture both in the east and west Church when as S. Hâ—erome relates the Synodicall consultations of both those parts of the world were sent to Pope Damasus to be confirmed Kings meete with nothing in Scripture but your condemnatioÌ„ And if they daigne to cast an eye vpon historie they shall find that the Popes whose greatnes is represented as preiudiciall to this our France hath not bene a litle aduantagious vnto it But if any haue raysed themselues to the detriment of France alwayes most Catholike and with the diminution of the most Christians kings dignitie you are the men who being enemyes to the Catholike Church and Christian religion like true children of darknes had your birth and groth by meanes of their obscuritie CHAP. XIV MINISTERS THe neglect of these things hath for the space of many yrares drawen great inconueniencies vpon France and hath made it a Theater wherupon bloodie Tragedies haue bene acted while God punisheth the contempt of his word and the oppression of his children The ripenes of your witt dread Soueraigne euen in the spring of your yeares and the tymelynes in princelike and Christian vertues which discouer themselues in your Maiestie makes vs hope for a more happie age vnder your raigne God who besto wed your Maiestie on France in his benediction will by his prouidence conserue you and will settle and confirme your scepter in your hands making vse of it to the establishment of his sonns kingdome who is king of kings so that God raigning by you may raigne also in you to the end that you may raigne with him for euer But if contrarie suggestions hinder our humble supplications from being receaued of your Maiestie with wished successe yet will we neuer cease while God grants life to instruct your people in obedience and loyallie to Wards your Maiestie and we will pray to God for the conseruation of your person and the prosperitie of your Kingdome as it becomes such as are c. ANSWERE IT is not at this present onely that the professours of a false beliefe impute the calamities which happen in their tymes to the contempt of their errours for euen Tertull. Arnobius S. Cyprian S. August and diuers others doe witnesse that the Pagans ascribed all the disasters of their tymes to the honour in which Christian religion was held and to the contempt of theirs In this you imitate these old PagaÌ„s and indeede since the end doth crowne the worke it was fitting that your writing which is full of the imitations of ancient heretiques condemned by the Church should be crowned with the imitation of Pagans condemned by all christian societies If the calamities of France did proceede from the contempt of your religion it had not so much florished in the tyme oâ— the Albigeois whom you accnowledge to be your brothers seeing it did persequute them in open warre And without doubt it had bene oppressed with miseries vnder the raigne of Pepin Charlemagne who religiously honored the Popes and the Roman Church wheras it was neuer more florishing then in their raigne Againe Italie and spayne where your errours are not currant whence those that professe them are banished and where the holy sea is as much honored as in any place of the world should be most miserable contries But your assertions haue no grounde of reason It is true indeede as the Fathers doe obserue that temporall felicitie doth follow religion marrie not yours but that onely
oblige consciēces which is à doctrine detested by the Catholike Church and ought to be so by all the world sithens it layes open à broad gate to disobedience ther being no more efficacious meanes to teach the contempt of the authoritie of the Church Kings and Magistrates and to violate their lawes and ordonnances then by openly persuading all men that none of them oblige in conscience Now there remaynes nothing but that I earnestly beseech you to enter into your owne harts to dispose your selues to enter into the way of saluation What will you remayne in à religion which braging of much can proue nothing who knowes not that it is now 1600. Yeares since Iesus-Chr established his Church with promisse of perpetuitie how can that then which was but hatched within the tearme of 100. yeares be his who sees not that the names CATHOLIKE and CHRISTIAN being the Church her proper names the religion to which they belong not and to which the qualities which they signifie cannot agree cannot iustly boast that it hath the true Church Who sees not that à Religion which manifestly contradictes the Scripture in many principall points of its beleife is not that which was left vs by Iesus-Christ and his Apostles Who sees not that they who vnder pretext of Gods honour iniure him who in words pretend holy Scripture and in in deedes foist in place of it that of men and rely vpon it as the fundation of their faith who sees not I say that those men carrie not the torch which we are to follow Who will beleeue that he who denyes the greatest part of the misteries because they are burdensome vnto him who forsakes them to follow his owne wayes and fancie who will haue no visible Heade of the Church that they may liue free from obedience vnto him who to exempt himselfe from labour and painstaking will not haue the blood of Iesus-Christ to render our actiōs purgatiue propitiatorie or merirorious who in à word banisheth all paine to passe to heauē in à feather bed who I say will beleeue that such an one is in the way of saluation nay who doth not see that he runs the straight way to his Erernall perdition Is any so silly as not to discouer that they who promis the people full and intire libertie to use the Scripture and yet giue them no other but to looke upon the letters and receaue into their eares the sounds of words and who put the Bible into their hands as the way of saluation which yet they accnowledge not to be authenticall yea depraued and corrupt are but meere mockers and impostures in things of importance towards saluation Who will not planely see that à man hath no assurance in à religion wherin all the assurance of saluation depends vpon the warranty of mens opinions and of each one in his owne cause in à religion the authours wherof die desperate Shall one follow those who professe punctually to follow Iesus-Christ yet doe the contrarie to that which he did in that most sacred misterie which he instituted before his death Shall one iudge that à true religion which banisheth all sacryfice without which neuer yet religion was Who will not iudge that the true way not to follow the saints is to follow their enemyes and such as vomit out à thousand blasphemies against their honour and puritie Will any deeme it the readie way to Christ to loade him with blasphemies and contumelies issuing out of à sacrilegious mouth And will not euen blind men see that to make God authour of sinne and man's perdition is to perish in ones iudgment and to adiudge ones selfe to eternall flames And verily following the Father's iudgment he is lyable to à more greeuious cryme who diuides the misticall body of Christ then though he should teare in peeces his true body Who then will not hold your religion abominable which stands conuicted of so great and detestable à schisme And who is he that will not condemne it when he obserues it to be patched out of the horred heapes of old heresies and consequently condemned by it owne iudgment since it is condemned by the primitiue Church which it doth accnowledge to be the true Church Can à louer of vertue and hater of vice follow that societie which shuts vp all passages to vertue And will he not planely discerne that to lay open the way to all vice is no other thing then to lay open the broad way to Hell In fine who sees not that that societie which will submitt it-selfe to no lawes spirituall or ciuile cannot be subiect to the lawes of God They are worse then blind men that cannot discouer this light Let euery one open his eyes and beware of being misledd by the comō errour of many to witt that the desire they haue to be saued puts them in assurance where euer they be They may please to know that if our desire were sufficient to iustifie vs then they that thought they did seruice and sacryfice vnto God in putting to death the Apostles wrought their owne saluation and not the damnation of their soules Let them know that though one haue an intention to goe to Rome and yet holde on the way to Geneua they shall neuer arriue at Rome Let them learne of the Fathers that there is no saluation out of the Church none is assured against the wroth of God who is not sheltered vnder that couert Let not the simple deceaue themselues by thinking that their Ministers would not haue the face to preach with such assurāce what they were not assured of because if it were enough for heretikes for the approbation of their doctrine to publish it as good and all contrarie to it as worth nothing one could not accuse the impietie of the greatest Heresiarkes that euer liued for with the pretended assurance of truth they defended their blasphemies I know indeede that the conuersion of à soule is à difficult thing I know that as an impoysoned hart as the report goes cannot be consumed by fire so God who is à consuming fire doth hardly inflame harts infected with the poyson of errour by reason of the obstacles which he finds therin Yet can he and will he doe it if euery one putting of his passion put on à fitt disposition and imbrace the meanes prescribed by the holy Fathers If thou desirest saith a Lib. de vtilit credendi c. 8. Si iam tibi satis iactatus Sideris finemque huiusmodi laboribus vis imponere sequere viam Catholicae disciplinae quae ab ips◠Christo per Apostolos ad nos vsque manauit optime ad posteros manatura est S. Augustine speaking to one that seekes his owne saluation to put à periode to thy miserie put thy selfe into the way of Catholike discipline which by the Apostles descended vpon vs from Iesus Christ and which shall be continued in our posteritie That is to say follow the Roman Church which alone descended by an vninterrupted succession from Iesus Christ To this Church it is that you ought to repaire whither S. August by another more expresse place inuites you b Idid c. 17. Dubitamus nos eius Ecclesia condere Doe we feare saith he to betake our selues into the A TABLE OF THE CHAPTERS and Sections contayned in this booke Chap. j. MInisters pag. 1 Answere pag. 2 Chap. ij Ministers pag. 4 Answere pag. 6 Ch. iij. Sect. j. Ministers pag. 32 Answere pag. 32 Section ij pag. 37 Answere pag. 38 Sect. iij. Ministers pag. 54 Answere pag. 54 Sect. iv Ministers pag. 76 Answere pag. 78 Sect. v. Ministers pag. 84 Answere pag. 58 Sect. vj. Ministers pag. 94 Answere pag. 94 Ch. iv Sect. j. Ministers pag. 108 Answere pag. 109 Sect. ij pag. 126 Ch. v. sect j. Ministers pag. 129 Answere pag. 130 Sect. ij Of Indulgences pag. 147 Ch. vj. Sect. j. Ministers pag. 155 Answere pag. 156 Sect. ij Of the Sacrifice pag. 169 Sect. iij. Of the Eleuation of the Hoste pag. 187 Sect. iv Of masses where the assistāts doe not communicate pag. 189 Sect. v. Of Communion vnder one kind pag. 194 Ch. vij Ministers pag. 202 Answere pag. 202 Ch. viij Ministers pag. 221 Answere pag. 222 Ch. ix Ministers pag. 241 Answere pag. 243 Ch. x. Ministers pag. 254 Answere pag. 254 Ch. xj Ministers pag. 257 Answere pag. 257 Ch. xij Ministers pag. 260 Answere pag. 261 Ch. xiij Ministers pag. 262 Answere pag. 264 Ch. xiv Ministers pag. 276 Answere pag. 277 Ch. xv The Religion Pretended to be reformed is worthy of hatred because it makes à schismè in the Church pag. 282 Ch. xvj That the religion which they call Reformed doth renewall the old heresies pag. 299 Chap. xvij The Religion pretended to be reformed doth banish all vertue pag. 314 Chap. xviij The Religion pretended to be reformed layes open the Gate to all vices pag. 318 Chap. xix The Religion pretended to be reformed doth teach that nether temporall nor spirituall laws of Princes doe oblige in conscience pag. 326 FINIS
de contribuer vos soins pour appaiser les troubles de la Chrestienté F. Leon de Paris Gardien of the Capueins of the Conuent of S. Honorie Fr. Archangell of Paris Gardien of the Capucins of S. Iameses Fr. Baltazar Langlois Prior of the Dominicains of S. Iames street F. Renault de Vault Prior of the great Conuent of the Carmelites of Paris Doctor of Diuinitie où nous prenons vn interest bien plus sensible qu'en ce qui nous pourroit concerner THE PRINCIPALL POINTS OF THE FAITH OF THE Catholike Church DEFENDED AGAINST the vvriting directed to the king by the foure Ministers of Charenton THE FIRST CHAP. MINISTERS SOVERAIGNE LORD The knovvledge which we haue of the mildnes of your naturall disposition makes vs hope that you will heare vs in our iuste complaintes and that to giue iudgement in an importāt cause you will not be satisfyed with hearing the accusation Againe the greatnes of your courage and the vigour of your witt which out run tyme and outstripe your age and wherof God hath alreadie made vse to restore peace to France fills your subiects vvith hope to see Peace and Pietie florish and Iustice maintayned vnder your raigne ANSWERE ONe may see that by experience in the first lines of your writing which is frequently noted by aunciēt historians Arrius in ep ad Constant apud Sozom. lib. 2. c. 26. Nestoriani tom 3. Conc. Ephes c. 18. that it is an ordinarie thing with such as erre in Faith to charme the eares of Princes with specious words that they may with more facilitie make glide into their hearts and imprint therin the opinions which they professe You extolle his Majesté thinking vnder the sweetnes of a truth to make him take downe that which is depraued in your beleifs and to couch vnder faire appearances the serpent which doth distroy soules as that Aegiptian hidde the aspe vnder figues which slew her The qualities which you attribute vnto the kinge doe truely appertayne vnto him nor haue I indeede any thinge to doe vpon this subiect but to approue the prayses wihich you asscribe vnto him and withall to adde to them euery one knowing not onely the strength of his witt and the fulnes of his courage but further the soliditie of his iudgement the inbred goodnes of his nature his pietie towards his people and zeale in point of Religion Yet in truth one that would be rigorous considering that a Respons ad epist Luth. Henry the eight king of England vvhom you so highy esteeme cōtemnes the prayses which Luther whom he condemnes of heresie ascribes vnto him might propose vnto his Maiestie to impose silence vpon you or at least to stop his eares against that which euen with truth you speake to his aduantage But I will nether indeuour the one nor the other the vehement desire and hope I conceaue of your conuersion There is nothing sayde in this Chapter of the Ministers inuiting the king to iudge of their cause ansvver being made thereto in 3. Chap. oblige me to treate you more mildly I will content my selfe to discouer vnto him your craft which consists in thinking to please him in euerie thing to thend you may please him in this point and vpon this I dwell praysing you for the prayses you giue him according to your dutie each subiect being obliged to speake and thinke well of his king CHAP. II. MINISTERS You haue SOVERAIGNE in your kingdome many thousands making profession of the old Christian Religion and such as Iesus-Christ did institute it and the Apostles did publish and put it downe in writing who for this cause haue suffered horrible persequutions which yet could neuer impeach their continuall loyaltie to their soueraigne Prince yea when the necessitie of the kingdome called they ran to the defence euen of those kinges who had persequuted them They DREAD SOVERAIGNE serued Henry the great your Father of most glorious memorie for a Refuge dureing his afflictions and vnder his conduct and for his defence gaue battaills and at the perill of their liues and fortunes brought hym by the point of the sword to his kingdome maugre the enemyes of the state Of which labours damages dangers others then they reape the revvard for the fruite which we reape therby is that we are constrayned to goe serue God far from Townes that the entrie to any dignities is become to vs for the most part impossibile or at least full of difficultie That our new borne children who are carried a far of to Baptisme are exposed to the rigour of the weather whence many die that we are hindred to instruct them yet that which doth most aggreeue vs is that our Religion is diffamed and denigrated with calumnies in your Maiesties presence while yet we are not permitted to purge our selues of those imputations in the presence of the said Maiestie ANSWERE IT is the custome of those that are tainted with errour to brage most of that which they least haue and to boast of it in aduātagious words which are ordinarie with them as S. a S. Hieron Osea cap. 10. Spumantibus verbis rumēt Hierome doth remarke This truely is your proceeding while you somme vp by millions your followers in France though now they be reduced to a far lesse number Imitating herin the Donatists who though but few in number brought downe to a part of Affrike and that a litle one too did yet make brages of the multitude of their followers You make vse of a deceipt yet easie to be discouered you see that the scripture and all the b Hieron tentra Lucif Fathers make the Catholike Church the lawfull Spouse of Iesus-Christ more fruitefull then any adulterer wherevpon you attribute to your selues many brethren but in vaine it being cleare euen vnto the blind that the number of yours are no more considerable in respect of the kings other subiects then all those that are of your professiō in the whole world being compared to those who in all christendome liue vnder the lawes of the Romane Church That this is so it is easie for me to proue by the same argument which a S. Aug. cap. 3. de vnitat◠Eccles lib. de Past c. 18. S. Augustine makes vse of against the Donatists for the vniuersall Church making onely appeare that your beleife hath no place in diuers townes and places of this kingdome where the Catholike Church is and that yet the Catholike Church is found in euery place where profession is made of your religion so it is not strange that when b Caluin 2. Colos 2. v. 19. videmus vt modo procer sit ac amplun Papae regnused prodigios magnitudine vrgeat Et in Praef. lib. de libero arbit Nos exiguun sumus home num manus illi Papistae ingentem faciunt exerc◠tum some of your owne men doe compare the number of their followers with the number of Catholikes they confesse that theirs is
c Philip. 2. v 7. he did for vs exinaniee himselfe taking the forme of a seruant That of the greater or lesse honour which doth accrue vnto God is but a bad way to establish one article of Faith and destroy another Vvher vpon d Hil. l. 1. de Trinit Religiese impius l. 4. irreisgiosam de Deo selt â—tudinem S. Hilarie tearmes the Arians who vse that way of proceeding Religiously vvicked people who doe irreligiously serue God Other grounds are necessaire Vve must know what the Church teacheth vs and those that are so carefull of Gods honour ought to be verie carefull to be in structed in it least they iniure him in deedes whom they honour in words which they doe in expressing things otherwise then they are indeede it being certaine as saith a Cassian l. 1. de Incarnat Quod non dicitur it ae vt est etiamsi honor videatur contumelia est Cassian disciple of S. Chrysostome that that vvhich is not exprest as it is though it seeme honourable is indeede a true contumelie That which is true be it of what kinde it will honours God because he would haue it so and that all his wills are to his owne aduantage But what is false though in apparance aduantagious turnes to disaduantage And though many things beare no proportion with the greatnes of the Almightie yet haue they connection with the infinite perfectioÌ„ of his loue and Charitie which appeares somuch the more perfect and accomphished by how much in vertue therof he descends to things more lowe and abiect And therfore it is an abuse to alledge gods honour to dazle and blinde the people Yet this you doe while you represent your Religion hated for fiue points which you esteeme honorable for him as being honorable in your opinion to Iesus Christ which is but yet so in apparance onely Hereupon I am forced to tell you with a Tertul. l. de pudic c. 2. talia tantae sparsilia eoruÌ„ quious Deo adulentur sibi lenocinantur effoeminantia magis quam vigoraÌ„tia disciplinaÌ„ Tertullian that those litle shiftes by vvhich you become flatterers of God and your selues doe rather vveaken then strengthen discipline So considering Religion in the shape you represent it me thinks I see not a chaste wife but a strumpet set out with sundrie adulterate colours to seduce the world and kill you come from you and become mistresse of your life which moues me to the end I may deliuer the people from errour to vndertake to wash her face vnmaske her and discouer her deformitie following the example and foot stepps of the Prophete who speaking of an Idolatrous b Nahu 3. Propter mu. titudinem fornicationuÌ„ meretricis speciosa gratae habeutis maleficiae quae veÌ„didit gentes in fornicationibus suis faemiliaes in maeleficiis suis Reuelabo pudenda tua in facie tua ostendam gentibus nuditaetem tuam regnis ignominiam tuam nation vseth these words For the abundance of the fornications of a faire charmeing and mischieuous strumpet vvho hath sold nations in her formcations families in her diuelish prankes I vvil discouer thy shame in thy face and vvill shevv thy nakednes to all nations and thy ignominie to kingdomes Which I will doe so much the more willingly because I haue learnt of b Concil in psal 36. Tanto magis debemus commemorare vanitatem haereticorum quanto magis quaerimus salutem eorum S. Augustine that by how much more we desire the saluation of Heretikes by so much more we ought to indeuour to make the vanitie of their errour appeare SECTION II. VVe vvould make it clearely appeare vnto him that our religion is hated because it admitts no other rule of saluation then the vvord of God contayned in holy scripture ANSWERE IT is false that your Religion is hated for that it admitts no other rule of saluation then the scripture but true it is that it is worthy of hatred for the diuers abuses which it committs in Scripture That we teach no other rule of saluation then scripture will be manifest to any that knowes that these words an other rule doe importe in proper speach a Rule of a diuers kind as I will hereafter proue in the ensuing Section and withall an intire rule as I will presently make appeare following your owne tenets who will not admitte the Ghospell of S. Mathew to be an other rule then that of S. Marke considering they are but two parts of the same Rule and that this word rule simply taken signifies a compleate rule for as S. Basile saith a Rule admitts no addition but things that are imperfect are neuer rightly instiled by the name of Rule Now we nether admitt Rule of any other king then the scripture nor yet any compleate rule other then it yea we call it the compleate rule of our saluation for two reason both because it contaynes immediatly and formally the substance of our Faith all the articles necessarie necessitate Medij for mans saluation and also because it doth mediately comprehend all that we are to beleeue in that it doth remitt vs to the Church to learne the same which it assures vs is infallible Hence it followes that we draw that truth out of the scriptures which we receaue by the mouth of the Church if reason may preuayle which teacheth that whoso euer deputes another to speake for him speakes mediatly by his mouth and if a Aug. lib. 1. cont Cresco c. 33. Quamuis huius rei certè de scripturis Catholicis non proferatur exemplum earundem tameÌ„ scripturarum etiam in hacre à nobis tenetur veritas cum hoc facimus quod vniuersae placuit Ecclesiae quam ipsarum scripturarum commeÌ„dat authoritas Etsimi lia lib. de vnit Eccles c. 22. S. Augustine who deliuers it in expresse termes may gaine beleife Albeit saith he one can produce no example of scripture concerning this matter yet hold vve in it the truth of the same scripture since vve doe that vvhich is conformable to the vniuersall Church vvhom the authoritie of the selfe same scripture doth commend vnto vs. Behold in what esteeme the Scripture is with vs for which cause we also are to be esteemed Now we will see whether by reason of it you deserue not hatred though not in that sense in which you say you are hated for it But before we come to that point permit me I beseech you to extenuate a litle the glorie you hunt after in establishing the Scripture the onely rule of your saluation by making you share it onely with diuers Here tikes who before your tyme sustayned the same opinion So said the Manichies I can in no sorte saith Fortunatus in a Aug. l. cont Fortunatum Nullo genere rectè me credere ostendere pessum nisieaÌ„dem sideÌ„ scripturarum authoritate firmauerim S. Augustine make appeare that I rightly beleeue vnlesse I confirme my Faith
them vnto a gentleman of our religion to bring them vnto vs. ANSWERE SInce Euery man vnderstands his owne busines best I haue nothing to say vpon this paragrafe which toucheth F. Arnould he hauing in his replie answered it himselfe onely this I will say he that knowes his merits learning Zeale and moderation of mynd will easily iudge him to be a man of greater performance then vndertaking and more prone to render your soules gratefull to God then your persons hatefull to men CHAP. XIII MINISTERS THis Soueraigne Lord did oblige vs to make answere for this confession hauing bene made to giue an accompt of our faith to our Soueraignes and to that effect being presented to king Henry the II. your predecessour we thought fitt to addresse the Defence of the same confession to his successour in whose presence it was calumniated And I wish to God we were licenced to propose our defence verbally in the presence of your Maiestie and were authorised publikly and in presence of the king which God hath bestowed vpon vs to mantayne the truth of the Gospell against those that doe diffame it which is a thing which your Maiestie ought also to desire For seeing a dissension amongst your subiects in point of religion what is more conuenient then that he who is the common father of vs all should know in what the difference consistes and see the ground of the processe and to this effect he should looke to the head of the fountaine to discouer what Christian religion was in its source For he that is established on earth to see that God be serued ought exactly to know the rule of Gods seruice he who in his charge represents God's royaltie ought in his actions to imitate his iustice which how can it be done without knowing the soueraigne rule of Iustice which is the word of God Vvher vpon it is that God commands kings continually to haue before their eyes the booke of the law therin to read all the dayes of their life But if they permitt themselues to be hood winked and be content to follow without seeing the way before them the Popes and Prelates haue faire occasion to accommodate religion to their priuate lucre and crect their owne greatnes vpon the ruines of the Ghospell For now religion is made a trafike and those our great Masters haue inuented rules of pietie which doth intrench not onely vpon the liuing but euen vpon the deade To no other end haue the Popes for some ages past probibited the kings your Maiesties Predecessours to read the holy Scripture but that their Empire is grounded vpon the ignorance of Gods word Neuer had it bene permitted to haue growen so great with the diminution of the greatnes of our Kings if they had not wrought vpon the aduantage of an obscure age wherin few people discouered their designe He could not haue made himselfe soueraigne Iudge in points of faith if the people had had the rule of faith before their eyes which God long agoe pronounced with his owne mouth ANSWERE IT is a great art in him that is feable and fearefull to fayne himselfe bold and valourous you put a good face vpon it and beare it boldly to make the world beleeue that you haue a great desire to appeare before the king to make good in his presence and in publike the truth of your new Gospell Your words which sound no other thing but a chalance wherby you prouoke all the Clergie of France to a publike disputation makes me call to mynd the Troian wherof mention is made in Homere Iliad 7 who boldly prouoked to combate marrie when it came once to blowes he stood in neede of a cloud to couer his flight and shame Vve could with facilitie if we pleased refuse to giue you battaile without the disaduantage of our dishonour or affording you occasion of complaint For Luther doth sustayne that we are not to dispute with such as renew old heresies which were long agoe condemned But we will not proceede so rigorously with you the Church of France by Gods prouidence being prouided of store of Prelates wherof I am the least and of an infinite number of Doctours who vpon all occasions will make appeare the veritie of her doctrine the vanitie of your errours The onely shadow of that great Cardinall will alwayes be able to defeate you for the same reason for which the Picture of Alexander made him quake vnder whose powerfull hand he had somtymes sunke to the grouÌ„d Is it not a mere flatterie to inuite a king to discerne differences in religion Vvill you haue princes to assume to themselues the authoritie of Iudges in such causes Though you would yet would not your brethren consent therto Princes themselues haue no such pretension The Holy fathers giue testimonie and the Scriptures teach that iustly they cannot doe it That your brethren will not haue it so they themselues shall speake Princes saith a Bezainconfess c. 5. art 15. Principes Synodo intersint non vt regnent sed vt seruiaÌ„t non vt leges condant sed vt ex Deiverbo per os ministrorum explicatas sibi aliis obseruandas proponant Beza are present in synods not to rule but to serue not to inact lawes but to propose those to be kept by themselues and the people which according vnto the word of God are explicated by the mouth of the Minister The Prince saith b Controu 5. lib. 2. c. 18. De sensu fidei mec cognoscit Princeps nec cognoscere officio Principali potest Iunius nether doth nor can by vertue of his charge iudge of the meaning of faith Vve say saith c Controu 1. q. 5. c. 4. Dicimus lites Ecclesiasticas decernendas esseex lege diuina per Ministrum Item cap. 6. Respondeo Martinum Ecclesiae vindicare iudicium de genere doctrinae non coÌ„cedere Imperatort c. Vhitakere that Ecclesiasticall differences are to be decided by the Minister in vertue of the diuine law In another place I answere that Martine doth ascribe the iudgement of points of doctrine to the Church he doth not grant it to the Emperour and who will deny that this iudgment appertaynes to â—ishopes Finally it belongs not to kings and Princes to confirme euen true doctrine but they are to be subiect to and obseruant of it saith Luthere That Princes doe not pretend to make themselues Iudges in matters of Faith the a Apud Soz. l. 6. c. 7. Mihiquisum de sorte plebis fas non est talia perserutari Sacerdotibus ista curae sunt Emperour Valentinian doth confirme in these words It is not lawfull for me who am of the ranke of the people to sound and search into those things they are committed to the Preistes care It belongs me not saith the same as b Epist 32. noÌ„ est mecum iudicare inter Episcopos S. Ambrose relates to iudge of the differences which rise amongst Bishops
à place seeing the extraordinarie Mission of your Ministers is an arlicle of your Faith which coÌ„sequently ought to be verifyed by the expresse word of God And shew me Ibeseech you à formall text of Scripture which saith that Luther Caluin and the rest of your Ministers were sent extraordinarily Shew it not me but those that follow you who without this haue no assurance that they are in the way of saluation sithens saluation there is none out of the Church nor can the Church subsiste without Pastours If my humble petition be not powerfull enough to purchace my demande grant it at least for that Luther and your owne confession doe oblige you vnto it c Luth. in Galat Populus maxime opus habet â—ertitude vocationiâ— nostrae Luther teaching the people that it doth greatly coÌ„cerne them to haue assurance of their vocation And your a Art 31. Confess Gall. Confession deliuernig in expresse tearmes that euery Pastour is b Art 31. Credimus semper sequendam esse hanc normam vt omnes Pastores c. Suae vocationis testimonium habeant to haue à testimonie of his calling to the office You are to begin there ô Minist for what euer doctrine you deliuer though it were cuen true would be of no profit to the people vnlesse they be within the bosome of the Church where yet they cannot be you not being true Pastours What saith c l. 1. de Baptis c. 18. Quid prodest homini vel sana fides vbi lethalt vulnere schismatis perempta est sanitas charitatis S. Augustine doth à sound or intire Faith profit à mare where Charitie is extinguished by the mortall wound of Schisme Now hauing clearely shewen that you are Schismatikes I will produce certaine passages which will make euideÌ„t to all the world that your doctrine euen in that name is worthy not onely of hatred but euen of horrour It is manifest saith d Epist 76. Apparet aduersarios Domini Antichristos omnes esse quos constet à charitate atque ab vnitate Ecclesiae Catholicae recessisse S. Cyprian that such are Antichrists who haue fortaken the Charitie and vnittie of the Catholike Church S. Optatus e Opt. l. 1. cont Parmen Doth proue the horrour of schisme out of the greeuousnes of the punishments therof and sustaynes that of all euills it is the greatest f Aug. lib. 2. de Bap. c. â— S. Augustine assures vs that schisme is à more haynous cryme then idolatrie because idolatri is onli punished by the sword wheras the g Num. 6. earth gapes to swallow vp the Authours of schisme and fire descends from heauen to consume their followers Who can doubt h Aug. lâ—co citquis dubitauerit hoc esse scelerarius commissum quid grauius vindicatum saith he but that the fault is more detestable where the punishmeÌ„t is more greeuous In another place a lib. 1. cont Parmen c. 4. he saith that it is à sacriledge which doth surpasse all other wickednes And S. Chrysostome b Chrysost hom 11. in Epist ad Ephes c. 4. Nihil DeuÌ„ aeque irritat atque diuisaem esse Ecclesiam is of opinion that nothing doth so much draw God almighties wroth vpon vs as the diuision from his Church But that I may search no further into the Fathers whose workes are full of like passages I will onely to discouer vnto you the horrour of schisme put before your eyes your owne Catechisme and Caluin c The 16. Sunday All those Who seperate themselues from the communitie of the faithfull for to make sects à part ought not to hope for saluation Your Cate chisme which hath in plaine tearmes that they are depriued of all hope of saluation who diuide themselues from the body of Iesus-Christ and by faction cut in peece his vnitie while they doe liue in this diuorce d Calu. Ep. ad Sodolet Sed omnium teterrimumest illud crimeÌ„ quod Sponsam Christi discerpere conat sumus Id si verum esset merito tibi orbi vniuerso haberemur pro deploratis Caluin who saith that of all the crymes that euer were obiected against him the most horrible was that he had rent and torne by schisme the Spouse of Iesus-Christ for which reason if it were true he and all his might be held for lost and without hope of recouerie Now I leaue to the Reader to iudge whether by the testimonie of your owne mouth you be not in à desperate case and cut of all hope of saluation as being seperated from the Church wherin it is onely to be found That the religion which they call reformed doth renewall the old heresies CHAP. XVI I Could present the Reader with à great number of points wherin you call à foote againe old heresies but to auoyd prolixitie I will onely produce foure 1. Point The principale article of your faith consists in beleeuing that man is saued by onely faith and that we are not iustified by our workes We beleeue saith your a Art 20. Conf. that we are made partakers of this iustice by onely faith We teach saith b Art 116. Docemus hominem iustificari per fidem in Christum non per vlla opera bona that of Suise by those of Geneua that man is iustified by faith in Iesus-Christ and not by any good workes That this is the principale point of your beleife is easie to be knowen since on it alone depends your saluation and also because the c Praefatio ad Syntagma Confess At vero hic articulus de iustificatione est basis forma anima religionis EuaÌ„gelicae summa c. Preface of your confessions and many of d Whitak controu 2. q. 6. c. 3. your writers say that it is the basis forme and soule of Christian religion and the abridgement of the doctrine of the gospell Now it is well nigh 1600. yeares since this opinion was condemned in Simon the Magician as hereticall as S. Ireneus doth iustifie who was scholler to S. Polycarpe one of S. Iohn the Euangelists disciples as also Theodorete who relates it so to haue bene He taught saith S. Ireneus a lib. c. 20. Docuit homines non saluari secundum operas iustas that men are not saued according to their iust workes b lib. 1. Fab Haereticorum c 1. Non per bonas actiones sed per gratiam eos esse saluiem consequutos he teacheth saith Theodorete in his booke of hereticall fables that men are not saued by their good workes Nor can you auoyd the force of my argument by saying that Simon the Magician was condemned for other errours For as it followes not that à man was not condemned to death for à murther because he was also found guiltie of theft Euen so for that Simon the Magician called himselfe à Prophete and sustayned that men were saued by his grace it doth not follow