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A93044 Truth prevailing against the fiercest opposition being a vindication of Dr. Russel's True narrative of the Portsmouth disputation ... Also, a sermon upon Mat. 28. 19. by Mr. John Williams ... As also An answer to the Presbyterian dialogue, by another hand / published by Mr. John Sharp ... who was moderator at the disputation in Portsmouth. Sharp, John, of Froome, Somersetshire.; Williams, John, minister. 1700 (1700) Wing S3005; ESTC R217599 120,924 184

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or Heathenism till they give up themselves to Christ submit to the Lord Jesus they had no right to this Ordinance Therefore you read Repent and be baptized and If thou believest with all thy heart thou mayst So that if we were sent into an Heathen Nation we ought to engage them to repent and believe before we administer this Ordinance to them 2. In respect of the Church profest Believers are to be baptized God he doth not give the inward use of this Ordinance to any but those that actually repent and believe But the Church cannot see the Heart Where Men therefore make a solemn Profession of Faith and Repentance there they are to be admitted to this Ordinance Where Men have a competent understanding of the Principles of Christian Religion and solemnly profess to devote themselves to the Lord Jesus Christ and contradict not this Profession by notorious Ungodliness or an openly wicked Life these we ought to admit Would not any Man that had been a Stranger and heard Mr. Chandler preach such Doctrine have taken him for a Baptist Preacher and not a Presbyterian But pray how doth he acquit himself from being 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 condemned in himself His Answer is this If any through mistake or neglect of the Parents have not been baptized they ought to submit to this Ordinance as thereby professing they give up themselves to God The same with what he said at Portsmouth in our very entrance upon the Dispute viz. he did own that Adult Believers were the proper Subjects of Baptism Dr. Russel said Then you own our Practice to be right Mr. Chandler said Yes if they have not been baptized in their Infancy Dr. Russel replied You suppose they are to be baptized by virtue of some Commission and that it is by the Commission of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ Mr. Chandler answer'd Yes I do so By all this it appears these Presbyterians own that Christ hath commanded Adult Believers to be baptized and they are the proper Subjects intended in our Lord's Commission So that at best if Infants are the Subjects of Baptism they are but improperly so But by his Confession if Infants are not at all intended in that Commission then those that we baptize upon Profession of Faith are the only proper Subjects of Baptism according to Christ's Commission and Infants are not the Subjects at all And till he answers like a Logician to Dr. Russel's first Argument and produces his Instance upon his universal Negative and shews us where it is written that Christ hath required any of his Ministers to baptize any one Infant the Controversy is fairly issued and it 's we and not they that have obtained the Victory or rather that Truth is strongest and hath prevailed These Men are just like the Pharisees c. in our Saviour's time who acknowledg'd that the fifth Commandment did oblige the Israelites to honour and relieve their Parents in their Necessities But by an Invention of their own by putting a false Gloss upon the words as appears by their Talmud treating of Vows Chap. 10. a Man is bound to honour his Father and Mother except he vow the contrary This our Lord takes notice of in Mat. 15. 4 5 6. Mark 7. 10 11 12 13. by the name of Corban a Gift In Pool's Annotations you have these words As touching this word Corban the most free and unconstrained sense seemeth to be this The Pharisees were a very covetous Generation and had a share in the Gifts that were brought unto God for the use of the Temple or otherwise thence they were very zealous and diligent in perswading the People to make such Oblations And when any pretended the need that their Parents stood in of their help they told them that if they told their Parents it was a Gift i. e. that they had vow'd such a portion of their Estate to a sacred use that would before God excuse them for not relieving their Parents c. and that they were not obliged by that Precept to honour and relieve them any longer Thus he tells them that by their Traditions under pretence of a more religious expounding the Divine Law they had indeed destroy'd it and made it of no effect at all In like manner if you ask these Presbyters Whether Jesus Christ gave Commission to his Ministers to baptize Believers Mr. Leigh shall speak for them his words are these We must all confess that Jesus Christ gave Commission to baptize Believers when at the Age of Maturity But if this Question were put to the Pharisees Whether such Jews were obliged by that Command of God to honour and relieve their Parents who had said to their Father or to their Mother Corban Their Answer was He is free and they suffered him no more to do ought for his Father or his Mother In like manner if you ask these Presbyters whether such Persons are obliged by that Command of Christ to be baptized in his Name when they come to years of Maturity and do believe who have been baptized in their Infancy Their Answer is as the Pharisees of old they are freed from that Obligation and they will not suffer them to be rightly baptized according to Christ's Commission Whereas Mr. Chandler confesses they ought so to be if they had not been baptized in their Infancy Now forasmuch as there is no other Authority for Infant-sprinkling but what the Pharisees had for their Corban i. e. the Command or Tradition of Men why may not we apply the words of our Saviour to the Pharisees unto these Presbyters Thus have ye made the Commandment of Christ for holy Baptism of none effect by your Tradition of Infant-sprinkling and thereby render'd the Word of God of none effect And that it 's vain Worship that is taught by the Precepts of Men you must be forced to acknowledg or deny the words of our Saviour And if Will-worship vain Worship Mens-Commandments and Human Traditions be not forbidden in the Word of God there is nothing forbidden but Men are then at liberty to do what they please in the Worship of God Why you that are of this Opinion should keep up a Separation from the Church of England unless it be for Humour and Interest I cannot imagine But to proceed These learned Annotators say That altho the Jews did for some tract of time keep to the Divine Law yet in process of time they abused that Text Deut. 4. 14. to found a new Invention upon it That besides the Law written in the five Books of Moses God delivered to him in the Mount divers things which were not written which he delivered only by word of mouth to the Sanhedrim which are to them as much a Rule of Judgment as any part of the Law which was written By which means they gained themselves a liberty of making the Law of God what they pleased From whence we also may observe that they did not deny this to be written