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A20744 Tvvo sermons the one commending the ministerie in generall: the other defending the office of bishops in particular: both preached, and since enlarged by George Dovvname Doctor of Diuinitie. Downame, George, d. 1634. 1608 (1608) STC 7125; ESTC S121022 394,392 234

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cause to bee confident vpon them then your selues but only to vindicate the honour and dignity of the Scriptures which of your side are too basely sleighted and neglected And as touching this particular place of Saint Augustine notwithstanding all the flourish you make therewith yet shall you never be able to proue what you intend thereby as I come now to demonstrate This booke de vtilitate credendi I haue now twice for your sake throughly read ouer and with the best attention I could In it I find the authority of the Catholik Church made the first motiue or meanes vnto Faith by which we doe beleeue but not the first principle and reason of faith for which wee doe beleeue The occasion of writing it was this Saint Augustine hauing lately through Gods grace escaped out of the toiles of the Manichean Heretiks in which for the space of nine yeares hee had beene entangled is very desirous to recouer from them his friend Honoratus also as yet continuing in his error and held fast by them This he doubteth not through the same grace of God soone to effect may hee but find him duly prepared and disposed For vntill hee be wrought from his hereticall pertinacy and stifnesse vnto a more Christian moderation and equability he shall with all his arguments but wash a bricke as they say and spend his oile and labour to little purpose That which made him so vntoward and hard to be wrought vpon was the faire and plausible insinuation of the Manichees that they pressed no man to beleeue vntill they had first cleared and manifested the truth whereas others terrified men with superstition and commanded Faith before they tendred any reason vnto them Wherefore to remoue this preiudice and to frame him vnto a more indifferent temper he employeth in this booke all his strength and skill labouring to demonstrate the Vtility of beleeuing and how requisite it is to yeeld to authority before with pure minds we can discerne the truth And this is the only drift and scope he aimeth at in this booke neither medleth hee therein with any of the Manichean heresies but reserueth the confutation conviction of them vntill some other time as appeareth by the very closing vp thereof where he willeth Honoratus to remember that he hath not yet begunne to refute the Manichees nor to se● himselfe against those toies nor hath opened any great matter touching Catholike Doctrine Whence thus I argue If S. Augustin in this booke dispute against Honoratus from the Churches authority as the last resolution of Faith then hath he opened therein the greatest point of Christian religion and confuted thereby the Manichean heresie inasmuch as the Catholike Church vtterly condemned it But S. Augustin in expresse words affirmeth that he hath not so much as begun to refute the Manichees nor opened any great matter touching Catholike doctrine Therefore he disputeth not from the Churches authority as the last resolution of Faith True it is he is much in commending authority setting forth the benefit of beleeving it But what authority What beleeuing that authority which is grounded vpon the Generall opinion fame and consent of people nations that Beleeuing which is Morall and only prepares the minde to divine illumination If so then certainly cannot St Augustins authoritie be the last Principle of Faith For this is infallibile and absolutelie necessarie as well to the wise as vnwise that but an vncertaine step or staire to raise vs vp vnto God not necessarie to them that are wise What then is it in S. Augustins iudgment Surely the first inducement or Introduction to the search of divine Mysteries For saith he it is authoritie only which moueth fooles to hasten vnto wisdome And againe to a man that is not able to discerne the truth that he may be made fit for it and suffer himselfe to be purged authority is at hand Had hee thought it to be more then so he would never haue considered it without certainty of truth Yet so doth hee even in the passage by you alledged They saith hee that know the Church affirme her to be more sincere in truth then other sects but touching her truth is another question In a word as in other arts and sciences He that will learne must beleeue his teachers so in these heavenly mysteries also would Saint Augustine haue all those that are not initiated such as his friend Honoratus was to beginne with Authority Not that it is a sufficient warranty for whatsoever we learne but for that it is the readiest and likeliest way to bring vs vnto learning N. N. Thus Saint Augustine teaching his friend how he might both know and beleeue the Catholike Church and all that she taught simply and without asking reason or proofe And as for knowing or discerning her from all other Churches that may pretend to be Catholike wee heare his marks that shee is more eminent vniversall greater in number and in possession of the name Catholike The second that shee may be beleeued securely and cannot deceiue nor bee deceiued in matters of Faith he proueth elsewhere concluding finally in this place If thou doest seeme to thy selfe now saith Augustine to haue beene sufficiently tossed vp downe among Sectaries and wouldst put an end to these labours and turmoiles follow the way of Catholike discipline which hath flowne downe vnto vs from Christ by his Apostles and is to flow from vs to our posterity I. D. Out of that passage of St Augustine you obserue two things first what be the Marks by which the Catholike Church may be discerned secondly that shee may be beleeued securely as one that can neither deceiue nor he deceiued As touching the former you say Saint Augustines Markes are these foure Eminence Vniversality Multitude and Possession of the name Catholike Wherevnto I answere first that Saint Augustine maketh none of these things Notes of the Church For three of them namely Eminencie Vniversality and Possession of the name Catholike he doth not at all mention Eminencie I confesse is foisted into your translation but no where appeares in the Originall Of the fourth to wit Multitude all that he affirmeth is this that in his time there were more Christians then of any other religion and that among all Sects of Christians there was one Church consisting of a greater number then all the rest which is not enough to establish it for a marke of the Church Where by the way giue me leaue to demand why whereas Saint Augustine saith Christians are more then Iewes and worshippers of Images put together you render it the Iewes and Gentiles put together For what the reason should bee I cannot conceiue vnlesse it be the same for which you raze out of your Catechismes the second Commandement But I answere secondly that as St Augustine maketh none of them Marks so neither are they Markes for Proper they are not nor Perpetuall and
and Cicero saith that vnhonest men may be callidi ve● suti subtle and crafty but Prudentes wise they can never bee The reason is evident because whatsoever is not just is not profitable nay nothing is more vnprofitable then to be hurtfully wise insomuch as Socrates seems to haue iust cause when he cursed him who first distinguished betweene profitable and honest Now to bee wise without innocence is very hurtfull vnto publike states for it overthrowes the society of man if one man may aduantage himselfe by the harme of another For as in the fable of Menenius Agrippa the whole body soone perished when the rest of the members to ease themselues wronged the belly so the whole common-wealth will quickly be dissolued if men may be wise for themselues only and hurtfull vnto others Neither is such wisdome hurtfull only to the publike but also to a mans owne selfe For sinne being the only evill that can hurt a man hee hurts himselfe most who to decline a little evill of paine or losse or disgrace commits an evill against his owne soule Whereby first hee looseth the peace of his conscience which is the happinesse of a man yea his heauen vpon earth For the iust man is as bold as a lyon and a good conscience is a continuall feast saith Salomon Nay Epicurus himselfe who placeth the chiefest blessednesse of a man in pleasure confesseth that a man cannot liue comfortably vnles he liue innocently For as oyle preserueth the light of the lampe so doth innocence maintaine peace and ioy in the conscience Againe as by sinne the peace of conscience is lost so it worketh confusion of face in the day of judgement when men shall bee judged not by their worldly wisdome but according to their innocence Oh how many will there at that day cry out with Cicero O me nunquam sapientem aliquando id quod non eram falso existimatum aye me that indeede was never wise but falsely thought to be what I was not And with those in the booke of Wisdome We fooles thought his life madnesse and his end without honor How is hee counted among the children of God and his portion is among the Saints But the innocent heart shall then lift vp a chearfull countenance as knowing that though here it were despised yet there it shall be iustified and rewarded with a crowne of glory O innocence innocence had I the tongue both of men and Angells yet were I not able sufficiently to extoll thee The man that possesseth thee nothing can hurt he is every where secure If he be tempted it maketh for his advantage if he bee humbled it is for his advancement if he fight he conquereth if he be slaine hee is crowned In bondage hee is free in danger safe in tribulation ioyfull the righteous loue him the vnrighteous in their conscience cannot but approue him and God himselfe highly esteemeth of him Alas alas that among men innocence should so little be regarded Every man desireth to haue all other things good a good house good land a good wife good apparell a good horse every thing good but a good and an innocent soule who desireth to haue I cannot but wonder wherein man hath so highly offended his owne selfe that he should thus wish all the things about him to be good and himselfe only to be evill Perhaps thou wilt say if I may be wise for my selfe no farther then innocence will giue me leaue I shall bee a right innocent indeede liuing but a poore life and nothing set by of any Nought set by of any What not of God not of his holy angells not of his blessed Saints and children For as for wicked men their honouring doth but avile and abase vs. And what talkest thou of a poore life Is not innocencie it selfe great riches If thy chest bee full of treasure thou countest thy selfe rich and canst thou be poore if thy heart be full of innocence Haue theeues and robbers and evill men store of wealth and hath hee no riches in store for thee Yes he hath already bestowed vpon thee the treasures of sanctifying graces and reserueth for thee immortality and glory and eternall life O the blessednesse of that man who is both wise and innocent But where shall a man finde such a Serpent-Doue such a wise innocent If a man should light a candle with Diogenes and narrowly search every corner of the World for him I thinke he should hardly finde any but must be faine to cry out with the Prophet David Helpe Lord for there is not a good man left Of wise and deepe Machiavillians I suppose he may readily finde more then a good many such as subordinate religion vnto policy holding that rule in Seneca Pietas honestas pudor privata bona sunt Reges quâ licet eant piety honesty modesty are the vertues of private men Princes may doe what they list vbi tantum honesta dominantilicent Precario regnatur hee is not an absolute King but raigneth at anothers pleasure who may doe nothing but what is honest and that of Lewis the 11. Qui nescit dissimulare nescit regnane hee hath not the feat of gouerning that cannot discemble These how wise soever they seeme in their own conceits are the veriest fooles in the world they say that all state-policy is built vpon pretence of religion and yet saying it is but a pretence they confesse they build but on a sandy foundation The scripture brandeth them for very fooles Dixit insipiens c. hee is but a foole that saith in his heart there is no good O miseros homines saith Saint Augustine qui cum voluntesse mali nolnut esse veritatem quâ damnantur mali Wretched men who resoluing to be evill would not there should bee a truth to condemne the evill Among these great pollititians who hauing no religion in them yet carefully take it on them our superpoliticke Iesuits may beare the bell Who more pious in shew Who more mischievous in practise Even in their doctrine vnder the title of Catholike faith they teach Treasons and murthers and lying and periuring equivocations making way to the fulfilling of Christs prophecie that in the latter time nor faith nor truth should be found on earth Vnto these wise hypocrites and all others who care more for semblance then substance in religion giue me leaue to say with S● Chrysostome O hypocrite if it be good to be good why wilt thou seeme to bee that which thou wilt not be If it be evill to be evill why wilt thou bee that which thou wilt not seeme to be If it bee good to seeme to be good it is better to be so if it be evill to seeme to be evill it is worse to be so wherefore either seeme as thou art or be as thou seemest to be But let vs come home to our selues and apply this doctrine a little more closely and particularly That you my Lords are wise as Serpents all
the bookes de Sacramentis was wont to say thus If there bee so great force in the speech of our Lord Iesus that the things which were not began to be how much more operatiue is it that things still be what they were and yet bee changed into another things But now because that clause that things still bee what they were make sore against Transubstantiation in the Roman Edition and that of Paris an 1603. that clause is cleane left out and S. Ambrose must no longer say so S. Chrysostom or the Author of the imperfect worke vpō Mathew was wont to haue these words If it be so dangerous to transferre vnto private vses those holy vessels in which the true body of Christ is not but the mystery of his body is contained how much more c. But what is become of them now In the edition printed at Antwerp by Ioannes Steelsius anno 1537. at Paris by Ioannes Roigny 1543. and by Audoenus Parvus 1557. not a syllable of those words in which the true body of Christ is not but the mystery of his body is contained appeares Why Because they make so strongly against your Reall Presence So likewise where he vsed in the elder impressions to say the sacrifice of bread and wine now in these latter editions hee is forced to change his language and to say the sacrifice of the body and bloud of Christ. More examples I might easily produce but these are sufficient to shew that Vincentius Lirinensis had good reason when hee gaue this Caveat But neither alwaies nor all kind of heresies are to bee impugned after this manner but such only as are new and late when they first arise while by straightnesse of time it selfe they be hindred from falsifying the rules of the ancient Faith and before that their poison spreading farther they attempt to corrupt the writings of the Ancient But farre spread and inveterate heresies are not to be set on this way forasmuch as by long continuance of time a long occasion hath layne open vnto them to steale away the truth But returne we againe to the matter from which we haue a little digrest The Fathers say you differed not in points essentiall True Neither doe we as is aboue shewed yet by your leaue their differences were not alwaies in petty matters vnlesse Rebaptization Communicating of infants the Popes vniversall iurisdiction and the like bee of small consequence with you Their differences were not so bitter as ours No were When they proceeded not only to curse one another but to fire bloudshed and banishment also And when casting off the rule of pietie they did nothing but increase strife threats envy and qua●rels every man with all tyranny pursuing his ambition whereby as S. Basil saith the Church of God was vnmercifully drawne in sunder and his flock troubled without all care or pittie Lastly say you they differed in matters vndecided by a generall Councell What then No danger No danger Then belike a man may safely beleeue all he lists before a Councell determine it The very high way to Atheisme For so the very Articles of the Creed during the first three hundred yeares after Christ should be but disputable points and not necessary For vntill Constantine the great there were no generall Councels By the same reason your Adoration of Images was no matter of Faith till the second Councel of Nice about 800 yeares after Christ nor Transubstantiation till the Councell of Lateran some 1200 yeares nor Merit nor Iustification by workes nor the most of your Tenents till the Trent Councell aboue foureteene hundred yeares after Christ. If they were I require you to shew what generall Councell had before determined them If you cannot then are you but novellers and hold not the ancient Faith The truth is Councells cannot make that an Article which was not but whether they decree or not decree whatsoever God affirmeth in his word as soone as it commeth to our knowledge is absolutely and vpon paine of damnation to be beleeued And it is horrible sacriledge and impiety to thinke that it is not necessary to beleeue God vnlesse a Councell of the Pope say Amen vnto it Yea but say you we nor haue nor can haue generall Councels No more can you nor any Church in Christendome without the generall consent of Christian Princes Synods of our owne Churches we may haue and haue had by the indulgence of our Princes More then this you cannot haue For you are but a handful of the Christian world and the greatest part thereof neither is nor will bee subject vnto you When you can get the Greek Church and that in Prester Iohns countrey with the Armenians and others to submit themselues vnto the Popes omnipotent and vbiquita●y power then may you peradventure haue hope to call a generall Councell But that I think will be at the Greek Kalends that is in plaine English at Nevermasse Howsoever say you if you may not relie on the Fathers because of their differences neither may you on vs because of ours If this be a sound reason as I confesse it is neither may you rely on the Church of Rome because of theirs But you mistake the matter much if you thinke wee require men to relie on our bare authoritie That privilege belongs vnto Christ only and vnder him to those holy Pen-men of the Bible that wrote by inspiration To vs appertaineth to proue what we say by their authoritie and when wee haue so done to require assent and not before If Scripture and sound deduction from it according to the art of reasoning together with the proofe of the sense thereof by the circumstances of the place and the analogie of Faith will not moue you we can but pittie your wilfulnesse and leaue you vnto God till he turne your heart and haue mercy vpon you For certainely miserable is the case of that man who knowing the Scriptures to be Gods word and hauing the vse of right reason shall refuse triall both by the one and the other preferring therevnto the authoritie of man which may erre it selfe and lead others into errour N. N. Your conclusion is you meane not to forsake the religion taught in that Church which is descended from Christ and his Apostles by succession but with Litinensis to preferre it before all things That you will follow vniversality Antiquitie and consent in your beleefe that faith which hath beene held from time to time in all places in all seasons by all or the most Doctors of Christianity That Church which as S. Augustine saith had her beginning by the entring of nations got authority by miracles was increased by charity and established by continuance and hath had succession from S. Peters chaire to our time That church which is knowne by the name of Catholike both to friends and foes even Heretikes tearming her so calling themselues for distinctions sake Reformers Illuminates Vnspotted brethren In
Prince of Physitians saith 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 time is that wherein season is it may not be doubted but God hath ordained such a time for it as was every way most seasonable And truly did S. Augustin say Omnia proprijs locis temporibus gessit Saelvator our Saviour acted all things in their proper times and places Let vs therefore a little more particularly enquire touching this time and season and here first in what age of the world secondly in what yeare of his owne age thirdly and lastly in what time of that yeare he suffered As touching the age of the world it was not instantly vpon the creation thereof nor yet soone vpon the fall of man but a long time after euen towards the end of foure-thousand yeares and the beginning of the last age of the world called therefore in Scripture the fulnesse of time and the last daies This time was of old foretold by the Prophets For although the incarnation and suffering of the Messias was for a while preached indefinitely without designation of any certaine time as namely vnto Adam and Abraham yet afterward it pleased God to reveale it more definitely as by Iacob the scepter shall not depart from Iudah nor a law-giuer from betweene his feet vntill Shiloh come and by Daniel that seauenty weekes after the going forth of the Commandement to restore build Ierusalem being well neere expired the most holy should be annointed and Messias be cut off At the end of which time there was a generall expectation of the Messia● among the Iewes as appeareth by Scripture 〈…〉 that very time he came and suffered in the flesh as by the same Scripture is purposely declared Some that are counted skilfull in Chronologie and the computation of times place the Passion of Christ in the yeare of the world three thousand nine hundred fiftie and three Others I knowe reckon otherwise but the numb●● of yeares where in they differ is so small that it is little o● nothing at all to be reckoned of Haply you will demand why it pleased God rather to appoint this time then any other I answer because this time was of all other the most seasonable fitting The time before the fall and while man stood yet in his integritie could no way be fit For as our Saviour saith He came not to call the iust and againe the whole need not the Physitian There being therefore as yet no sicknesse nor wound neither was there any need of physicke or salue Had man persisted in his innocencie Christ had never beene incarnate nor had suffered To haue suffered soone after the fall would also haue beene very inconvenient For it was reason that man sinning by pride should haue a time to humble him to see his miserie to seeke helpe and to exercise his faith The dignitie also of our Saviours person was such and the worke of redemption so important that so much haste could not wel stand with either And if Christ suffering so lately shall at his second comming scarce finde faith on the earth what a scarcity of faith would there haue beene and how cold would charity haue waxed by this time had hee suffered so long agoe and presently vpon the fall For which cause also it was not to bee deferred vnto the last period of the world least in the interim religion and the knowledge of God should quite bee extinguished Besides it 〈◊〉 ●it that some time should be allowed betweene the worke of our redemption and glorification to the end that the power of God our Saviour might bee praised and spread abroad our faith exercised and tried not onely in regard of things past and present but future also and our thankfulnesse testified by our faithfull and diligent serving of him The duest time therefore was by the wisdome of God chosen and Christ came and suffered neither too soone nor too late but in that season when both Iewes and Gentiles were come to their ripenesse the one to be broken off by reason of their incredulitie the other to be grafted in through Gods goodnesse and mercy For as touching the Iewes they were now growne to such an height of impietie that as Iosephus saith had the Romans neuer so little deferred their desolation either the earth would haue swallowed them or a deluge of waters haue drowned them or fire from heauē haue consumed them for Sodom was never so abominable As for the Gentiles their fulnesse was now come in they were growne white and ready for the harvest and the calling of them so long delayed was now to be commenced And so much for the age of the world As touching the yeare of his age wherein hee suffered it was if wee may beleeue Irenaeus about the fiftieth which he voucheth to be an Apostolicall tradition But indeed he is fowly mistaken as is generally agreed vpon by all Where by the way may bee obserued what small credit is to be giuen to Fathers in point of tradition The ground of his opinion was that of the Iewes Thou are not yet fiftie and hast thou seene Abraham But they spake at randome and after the manner of disputers grant him more then might well be admitted The common receaued opinion is that hee suffered being three and thirtie compleate in the beginning of his foure and thirtieth Howbeit Scaliger and that as it seemes not without good reason addeth one yeare more and placeth his Passion in the beginning of his fiue and thirtieth For taking it as granted that at his Baptisme he was full thirtie betweene that and his Passion he findes as hee supposeth fiue Passeovers The first in the second of Iohn And the Iewes Passeover was at hand The second in the first of Iohn After this there was a feast of the Iewes which he proueth to be Easter by that in the former Chapter Say not yee there are yet foure months and then commeth harvest The third in the twelfth of Mathew and the sixt of Luke where his Disciples walking through the corne fields plucked the eares of corne The fourth in the sixt of Iohn And the Passeouer a feast of the Iewes was nigh The fift and last was that wherein he was crucified Which being so then Christ being baptized in his thirtieth compleate and dying in the fift Passeouer after his suffering must of necessity be in the beginning of his fiue and thirtieth But about this I will not contend The oddes of one yeare cannot be great Enquire wee rather why hee suffered at this age First because it was vnfit that old age should creepe into that nature which was so neerely vnited vnto the eternall sonne of God Secondly to testifie how dearely he loued vs that was content then to die for vs when as yet he was in the very flowre and vigor of his age Thirdly mystically to teach vs that as hee grew in age and stature and then being come
obedientia blinde and absolute obedience is as necessary commendable as in Friars to their superiours it is foolish and vnreasonable To this I answere that God indeed had intimated his purpose vnto Abraham but yet in this forme of words Because the cry of Sodom and Gomorrah is great and because their sinne is exceeding grievous I will goe downe now and see whether they haue done altogether according to that crie which is come vnto me and if not that I may know In these words you see he doth not say that he would destroy the godly with the wicked and by the deliverance of Lot it plainely appeares he never intended so to doe and therefore it could be no arrogance in Abraham to make such a charitable deprecation for them Neither doth that appeare by the words that God had past an absolute and peremptory sentence against the wicked Sodomites for if ten righteous men had beene found amongst them they had beene spared and the threatnings of God ordinarily are to be vnderstood with a condition annexed vnto them if men repent not yea although it be not in plaine tearmes expressed as in that against Niniveh yet forty daies Niniveh shall be destroyed for this notwithstanding vpon their repentance they were not destroyed So that this condition being here also vnderstood what presumption could it be in Abraham to desire favour for the Sodomites at least vpon their repentance Finally had God absolutely threatned without condition yet ought not man so much to attend what God intendeth to doe agreeable vnto his owne will and iustice as what he himselfe is to doe agreeable to the law of God and nature and then shall he find that God in denouncing and executing iudgement wills two things both that they perish and that he greeue God had laid Iudea wast and sent away the inhabitants thereof into captivity yet Ieremy lamented for it Christ knew well that God had absolutely determined to destroy Ierusalem yet hee wept over it a sonne may know by evident symptomes that his Father cannot liue and yet desire the prolonging of his life and all without sinne In like manner might Abraham without offence wish all good vnto the Sodomites notwithstanding Gods will vnto the contrary Now this affection of this holy Patriarch is iustifiable both by the law of God and nature hauing a three fold foundation to support it Humanitie Consanguinitie Piety First Humanity for what heart of flint or adamant would not melt to behold so many thousands so fearfully to perish It is reported of Xerxes a king of Persia that leading into Greece a huge hoast of about a leauen hundred thousand men and being desirous on a time to take a view of them from the top of a hill while he beheld thē he burst forth into weeping and shed many teares and being demanded the reason because quoth hee within one age not one of all these will be left If Xerxes were so affected at the consideration of the naturall death of so many should not Abraham be much more moved at the destruction of the Sodomites so sudden so violent so terrible for the manner of death is far more fearfull then death it selfe Nay if God himselfe pittied the great City of Niniveh in which were sixscore thousand persons that could not discerne betweene the right and the left hand why should not Abraham also commiserate these fiue citties in which without question were many thousands of young tender babes and infants who never partaked in their parents transgressions Aboue all If yee consider that this temporall plague of fire and brimstone from heaven was praeludium aeterni a fore runner of eternall miserie in hell what man is he that hath but a sparke of humanity in him but would wish it to be otherwise and prevent it if he could For one man not to sympathize and compassionate with another in his miseries is meere inhumanity Another ground of this affectio● in Abraham was Bloud and Consanguinity for there liued among the Sodomites Lot his children and family Now Abraham was vnkle vnto Lot Lot being Harans sonne which Haran was brother vnto Abraham and this is so great a neerenesse in bloud that by the very law of nature marriage betweene vnkle and neece aunt and nephew is interdicted and vnkles are accounted as fathers to their nephewes Betweene these therefore there must needs passe a naturall 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 and affection more then betweene them and others inasmuch as there is a neerer vnion and coniunction betweene them Others may be glewed together by friendship or alliance but these are of the same peece naturally one bone of bone and flesh of flesh Here there ought to be no difference at all let there bee no strife betweene me and thee saith Abraham to Lot for wee are brethren yea extraordinary loue and amity I behaued my selfe saith David as to my friend or to my brother and the more the loue is the more earnest and vehement will the desire be for the prevention of such evills as doe threaten them The third and last ground of Abrahams affection was Religion and Piety For where there is a profession of the same true religion there is a straiter bond then that of bloud being members of the same mysticall body in Christ Iesus hauing one Lord one Faith one Baptisme one body one spirit one hope one God and Father of all which is aboue all through all and in all And out of this Vnion issueth that holy communion of Saints mentioned in the articles of our Creed in regard whereof we are bound to loue the Saints farre aboue other men according to that of St Paul while we haue time let vs doe good vnto all specially vnto those that are of the houshold of faith Of this family was Lot and his houshold and many others for ought Abraham knew and therefore vnlesse hee would be not only without naturall affection but also without religious sympathie and compassion he must needs stand thus affected towards this mixt company in Sodom and beseech God either to spare the wicked for the godlies sake or to preserue the Godly in the destruction of the wicked that it may not every way be 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 as to the one so to the other And thus you see the affection of Abraham both what it is and by what grounds it is justified warranted Let vs apply this before we proceede farther As we all professe our selues to be the children of Abraham according to the faith so is it our duty also to be his children in affection And first even towards the wicked ought wee to be tenderly affected and to pittie them more then they pitty themselues Thus doth Abraham in this place thus did David a true son of Abraham when they were sicke saith he I clothed my selfe with sacke cloath and humbled my soule with fasting Thus did Christ a true sonne both of
vehemently as justly they might if this were his Tenet But there are who defend him affirming that it was but out of a mistake For acknowledging in Christ a threefold Righteousnesse Actiue passiue Essentiall of the Word for the Righteousnesse of God is not Accidentall but his very Essence hee holdeth that we are justified not only by the imputation of the Actiue and Tassiue Righteousnesse of Christ vnto vs but also by the admission of vs vnto the participation of the Divine nature as St Peter speaketh that is of his Essentiall Righteousnesse to the end that receiuing of his fulnesse wee might be replenished with all divine qualities and graces The reason why he so much vrged this doctrine was because he had obserued that many out of a perswasion they had to be justified and saved by the merits and obedience of Christ imputed to them cared not to haue any righteousnesse in themselues and vtterly neglected the practise of holy duties Wherefore hee taught that the Actiue and Passiue Righteousnesse of Christ imputed availed not either to the remission of sinnes or the purchasing of Gods favour vnlesse they were also made partakers of the divine nature for the avoiding of sinne and the leading of a holy and vertuous life This as it seemes was all Hosiander held If he held farther then this and his adversaries vnderstood him aright I am no Patron for him The last quarrell is touching our English translations of the Bible Wherein that divers things were amisse it was never denyed of vs. For being an humane act and humanity being subiect vnto errour it could not bee avoided but that some faults what through ignorance what through negligence what through other infirmities might passe vnheeded and vnobserved If the former translations had beene faultlesse the Church of England would never haue thought of setting forth a new as now it hath done Which it did not as if those aberrations were so dangerous and prejudiciall vnto the substance of Faith but out of a holy desire that our English streames as neere as may be might runne with the same purity that is found in the Hebrew Greeke fountaines So that her meaning was not as our late learned Translators say of a bad Translation to make a good for this had beene in a manner to acknowledge that our people hitherto had beene fed rather vpon husks and akornes then the flower of wheat but to make a good one better or out of many good ones to make one principall good one not justly to be excepted against But tell me in good sooth you that so busily object vnto vs our quarrels in this point is your Vulgar translation even that which your Trent Councell hath made authenticall and is every where read in your Churches free from errour Or are there no bickerings and contentions among you concerning it If it be faultlesse what needed other translations as that of Pagnine Vatablus and Arias Montanus How cometh it to passe that Valla Stapulensis Erasmus Vives Budaeus others finde so great fault with it wishing it were amended or another made in roome of it Nay that Isidorus Clarius a Spanish Monke should finde to the number of eight thousand faults and euery one as hee professeth changing the meaning of the text Pope Sixtus the fift did not thinke all was well when he went about to correct the faults thereof with his owne hand And who would haue thought but all had beene well when he set it forth so corrected charging that none should afterwards be published with any change addition or detraction of the least particle And yet some two or three yeares after this Pope Clement the eight finding all not perfectly amended alters addes detracts yea contradicts his predecessors edition For example where Sixtus saith there was not a citty which did not yeeld Clement saith which did yeeld Againe where Sixtus hath They built vpward to the horse-gate Clement hath from the horse-gate And where Sixtus reads iustice Clement reads Vniustice This for a tast whereof whosoever will haue his fill let him see Doctor Iames who hath written at large of this argument Wherevnto I might adde the barbarismes and solecismes of that translation together with those knowne and manifest faults which yet they suffer to passe in every print as Evertit for Everrit she overturned ●he house for she swept the house consum masset had perfected for consumpsisset had wasted or consumed Saeculi of this world for Sacculi of the bagge praescientiam foreknowledge for praesentiam presence sixe hundred like or worse errors But I forbeare for brevities sake only I cannot but acquaint you with the reasons hereof for they are feriall and pleasant Faults saith the Iesuit Mariana are still left in the vulgar edition first because there is no danger in them to faith and good manners Secondly least the novelty of an exact amendment should offend the eares of them that were enured vnto them Lastly that they might reverence the old edition and tread in the steps of their Ancestors who out of a holy kind of piety tolerated those errors Heare also what the same Mariana saith touching your bickerings about this matter Some Catholikes and those also in Spaine taxe the vulgar edition as defiled with many foule faults appealing every foot vnto the fountaines whence those rivers haue issued vnto vs contending that as often as they differ from them they are to be corrected by comparing them with the Greeke and Hebrew bookes men puffed vp with the skill of languages making a mocke of Ecclesiasticall simplicity whose boldnesse and temerity in pronouncing deserueth to be curbed On the contrary side others more in number through the hatred of their adversaries thinke it great sinne once to touch the vulgar edition and count them in the number of impious ones who adventure to correct the least word or to expound any place otherwise then the vulgar interpretatiō will beare whom certainly wee are not to follow men of little spirit filled with darknesse conceiuing too narrowly of the Maiesty of our religion who while they defend the block-houses as it were of opinions as articles of faith seem to me to betray the chiefest tower it selfe most shamfully to viola●e brotherly charity Therefore avoiding these extreames and by-waies which lead vnto a downe-fall wee haue resolved to hold the midle way c. Thus you see that there are as violent contentions among your selues about translation as there is amongst vs and that wee may justly say vnto you Physitian heale thy selfe before you haue to doe with the diseases of others N. N. Good Mr Downe calling to mind that you told me craving some certaine rule to know the true sense of Scripture that the true sense of Scripture is easy to bee vnderstood as much as appertaineth to Salvation I demand then if the doctrine of Baptisme be necessary If so then is some part hard