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A71292 An additional discovery of Mr. Roger L'Estrange his further discovery of the Popish plot wherein Dr. Titus Oates and the rest of the King's evidences are vindicated from the aspersions cast upon them in that pamphlet : together with some new observations upon the said discovery not heretofore publisht / in a letter to Dr. Titus Oates by B.W. B. W.; L'Estrange, Roger, Sir, 1616-1704.; Oates, Titus, 1649-1705. 1680 (1680) Wing W3; ESTC R7902 30,317 22

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and then most abhominably Christian-like he briskly lets fly at the Dissenters from the Church of England with a most Dismal Judgment that Heaven and Hell is as easie to be brought together as to reconcile those People to any terms of Piety or Civil Order that corruptly style themselves Protestants I must confess here perchance the Author may apprehend he hath the whip hand of any one that will undertake to answer in respect of the Law but I think without offence I may put you in mind of the Words of the Bishop of Donn in his Preface to his Grand Exemplar which are That when it appears a Kingdom is converted to Christianity the Common-wealth is made a Church Gentile Priests are Christian Bishops the Subjects Servants of Christ the Religion turned Christian and the Laws of the Nation made part of the Religion there is no change of Government but Christ is King and the Temporal Power his Substitute and is to promote obedience to him Now I must confess I am and I doubt not but every really true Son of the Church of England will be much more inclinable to take Doctor Tayler for an Authentick Author in this Point of Religion than Mr. L'Estrange though he does not use the word Protestant and without all peradventure his Judgment is upon Truth I mean the word of God which Mr. Roger altogether omits to the great proof of his Sonship and only grounds himself in that case in my apprehension upon several and Vulgar Errors as first I take it to be an undeniable Truth from our Saviour and his Apostles that there is but one Religion and not Legions and that under two Heads 1. Loving God with all your heart 2. Love our Neighbours as our selves unless it may be said that every Chimera of mens brains or every Notion as the Author calls Religion or every Form is a Religion I am of opinion it's Nonsence and I cannot but concur with Dr. Tayler that the Antiochian or Christian Religion is the Religion Catexochene and what ever Forms in true and due order to that are framed doubtless they are praise-worthy and ought to be observed by all that Love the Kingdom of Christ but yet I take it the Form is improperly called a Religion but for this Author that hath the Confidence to style himself the true Son and would fain be esteemed the Champion of the Church of England to leave out the only Essential part of a true Church whose Foundation ought to be upon the Rock of Ages and to place it only in humane Laws which as Dr. Tayler says are but part and only in Substitution to that which is really true is as I said before to take the Church-Yard and all for the Church or instead of commending the Vine to praise the Hedge or Fence about it for as Dr Tayler's opinion is the Temporal Power is to be used primarily and principally to promote obedience to Christ not to its self or any thing contrary to Christ's Doctrine Practices or Precepts therefore to me it seems apparent that the Author hath not done right to his Mother the Church of England which makes me fear in regard the Fathers of the Church seem to be of opinion against him in discription of a Church I conceive it may without straining be rationally conjectured he was not suckled by his Mothers milk but by a Foster Nurse otherwise certainly he would not have omitted so Essentiala Worth of the Church of England and the rather for that he might with ease have proved That when the Body of this Kingdom began to shake off that Spiritual Slavery imposed on our Ancestors by the Romish Yoke they then lay under the alteration that then was made by the Governours and Government of this Nation was the nearest and most agreeable by the Articles Cannons and Injunctions then agreed and established to the Apostolical Rule and pursuant to Dr. Tayler's Judgment therein as they could For that our Religion should solely depend upon humane Law it must be and may be as changeable as that of which I am sure we and our Ancestors have had woful Experience as by Repeals of Statutes for that purpose in the Reign of Queen Mary witness Another Vulgar Errour I conceive him with some clearness gullty of is in calling the Church of England the only Protestant Religion aimed at in this Case by the Papists Indeed I have heard once the Question was debated amongst Persons of an higher Sphere than Mr. L'Estrange what the Protestant Religion was and it was thought fit to be left undetermined and doubtless not imprudently for if we should make that the Basis of the Religion of the Church of England it would give our Adversaries the Papists a vast and inevitable Advantage for if History be in that Case to be depended upon the Lutherans the Calvinists c. were before the Church of England under the denomination of Protestants and I do doubt it will appear if it should be brought into dispute they differ in many and main Points but then the Consequence would inevitably follow that we must be put to prove which is the true one another advantage the Papists would have and which I have heard often made use of That they I mean the Church of Rome are the Mother Church and of many hundreds of years before the Church of England and doubtless they may be too hard for us in that Point if our Foundation begun only in Protestantism but in truth the Foundation of our Apostolical British Church which is fully clearly and elegantly proved and made out by the Learned and Judicious Author of the Book intituled of the Heart and its right Sovereign to be ancienter than Rome's especially here in this Nation by many Centuries of Years and for his saying by your Evidence it appears the Fanaticks as he calls them are to be Papists Auxiliaries and therefore it s not rational they the Papists would work their Ruine It 's true according to the Common and Vulgar term you in your Depositions call it the Protestant Religion indefinitely but why this must not concern all manner of Dissenters from the Romish Church I am sure does not in the least appear nor can any other thing rationally be expected but the extirpation of all Dissenters from them of Rome without distinction nor is it proved by you Doctor the Jesuitical Party endeavoured to make any other use of them but as all Conquerors do to divide their Dissenters to facilitate their intended Enterprize if so then his unchristian like Censure must of necessity be unwarrantable and groundless Dear Doctor I must beg your pardon for my prolixity upon this Paragraph but finding this the Author's Corner-Stone I could not pass it over slightly being so really zealous for the ancient British Apostolical Religion that as God was heretofore pleased to honour this Island to have the first Christian King and a British Woman to be Mother of the first Christian
from thence can be inferred without a violent or at least strange Construction and for my part I do not at all know or suspect that any one true Member of the Church of England is or will in the least joyn with the Jesuitical Party in it but do hope both they and the Dissenters from them will unite to defend his Sacred Majesty and the Government from it Then he tells you The Law is general in that case there is no relaxation the Law takes not notice of Honesty but Obedience and this Rule he says holds in common as well to the Papists as to the Protestant Recusants With something more to the same purpose but truly I think to very little purpose for as I take it those Statutes he cites are by their Title Preamble and Body only and litterally against the Popish Recusants For the Dissenters he talks of or the greater part of them were not then publickly in being nor in the least mentioned in any of them and if so I think they cannot be concerned But that being under the construction of a power above me I shall not be positive in it or determine it Then he rivets this he thinks by saying But what if it be said that it is not the thing sworn but the Oath it self that is scrupled at This he tells you Doctor is nice and unhappy to those that are so strait-laced and from thence he infers its dangerous to the Government for it lets in all the Priests and Jesuits in nature under that colour for they will all flow in thither that is amongst the Dissenters from the Church of England for shelter and carry on their Designs without trial or danger Is not this most incomparable Jugling he can blow hot and cold at his pleasure an excellent Artist for observe when he had some trouble of Spirit upon him for the Papists Sufferings upon this Hellish Plot and to take off the edge of the Magistrate and the opinion of the People as to the further and severe prosecuting of it that there might not be any more havock made with them then there was not a Papist to be seen they were invisible but now when the Tables must be turned upon the Dissenters to the Church of England then because of some of the Dissenters scruplesomeness in Swearing his Opinion is changed for now there is a great deal of danger he says but if you will believe the Author before it must be of no body or at least so few that they are not worth the looking after but one to three thousand if so much so here is Mr. Roger against Mr. L' Estrange and indeed I take the Author's Inference from hence to be altogether foreign and remote from your words or meaning in your Deposition or the truth of the case for though your Deposition in fact is true and common experience joyns with you in it that the Jesuits and their Party are so active that they will if possible thrust themselves into any Society of Men to try their skill in disturbance of Governments and carry on their Design yea even as well where there are Dissenters from the Church of England as where there are none and according to what he said equally safe to themselves Now to conclude all he tells you Doctor It must be granted that either the Papists have a design upon the King Religion and Government and advance it by acting the parts of Quakers Anabaptists Presbyterians and other Sectaries or not and admitting your Deposition to be true there can be no security to this Government without either dissolving all seperate meetings or bringing in all Dissenters to this Legal Test otherwise the Papists have all sorts of liberty and security in herding themselves amongst Conventiclers where upon the beating of a Bush it will be an even wager whether you start a Jesuit or a Fanatick and in this case there is not much difference between them where the Jesuit plays the Fanatick or the Fanatick the Jesuit and then says if this main Assertion be true there is no way of finding out the Papists but by this Test and Dissenters cannot chuse but incourage the Proposition either they have Priests amongst them or not if they have why do they not the best they can to find them out if not why do they say they have Either they are influenced by the Jesuits or not if they be why do not they purge their Congregations If not why do they pretend they are and so set the Saddle on the wrong Horse Either its possible to clear their Conventicles of this dangerous mixture or not If so why do they still complain and do nothing in it If not then there is no way to extirpate Popery but by rooting out Fanaticism and then he calls to the world to judge with what injustice the Orders and Rituals of the Church of England are charged with a tincture of Superstition and Popery when the Calumniators are tainted with this Leaven and then concludes he is come to the bottom of the Popish Plot. I am sure a blind man would be glad to see it for I that have both my eyes can neither see top middle nor bottom of what he promised of a further Discovery of your discovered Plot and all he hath said I take to be but a meer groundless Phantasm for in the beginning of his Pamphlet he undertook a further Discovery of the Plot than you discovered and could you or any other rational man have from thence expected or looked for any thing else but some new matter and clearly made out and evinced either by authentick Testimony or undeniable Arguments but instead thereof he hath spoiled three or four Sheets of Paper by stuffing them full of strained and wrested Constructions of and inferences from some part of your Depositions and Observations many manifest contradictions and apparent mistaken Conclusions thereupon Nevertheless to do him what right I can perchance if you take not his litteral expression but his mystical meaning I am perswaded you will go nigh to judge he hath made or really intended to make a further Discovery of a Plot but not the Plot you have discovered for if you well and seriously observe the subject matter of his Discourse and Arguments and to what they tend and add to it the time when this Learned Piece came forth and compare it with the invented Plots of the Earl of Castlemain Countess of Powis John Gadbury Mrs. Celier c. I may easily suppose Doctor you may without any great stress readlly conjecture with whom he conversed for what Meridian this elaborate Piece of his was calculated and for whose use by its Image and Superscription but the All-mighty Providence having taken them in their own Snares both in those and other things hath thereby plainly proved to the world the manifest untruth of his Assertions for although is be undeniably true what you have deposed that the Jesuits and their Agents endeavoured to Work