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A41593 The Catholic representer, or, The papist misrepresented. Second part Gother, John, d. 1704. 1687 (1687) Wing G1327; ESTC R30311 98,893 108

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the_o catholic_a representer_n or_o the_o papist_n misrepresented_a and_o represent_v second_v part._n publish_a with_o allowance_n london_n print_v by_o henry_n hill_n printer_n to_o the_o king_n be_v most_o excellent_a majesty_n for_o his_o household_n and_o chapel_n 1687._o the_o content_n chap._n i._o of_o the_o veneration_n show_v to_o image_n of_o christ_n the_o virgin_n mary_n etc._n etc._n whether_o the_o papist_n pray_v to_o image_n in_o relation_n to_o a_o passage_n of_o a_o book_n entitle_v a_o catechism_n true_o represent_v the_o doctrine_n and_o practice_n of_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n and_o its_o vindication_n chap._n ii_o whether_o papist_n pray_v direct_o to_o the_o cross_n as_o be_v positive_o assert_v by_o a_o protestant_n with_o a_o essay_n of_o a_o heathen-catechism_n after_o the_o copy_n of_o the_o truly-representing_a protestant-catechism_n in_o which_o this_o calumny_n be_v publish_v chap._n iii_o whether_o the_o doctrine_n of_o transubstantiation_n be_v 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