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shall_v be_v point_n of_o true_a religion_n and_o this_o be_v cross_v in_o the_o greek_a church_n which_o be_v a_o true_a one_o but_o yet_o notwithstanding_o may_v not_o be_v justify_v in_o every_o particular_a that_o they_o general_o handle_v neither_o dare_v the_o jesuite_n admit_v the_o consequent_a for_o then_o the_o point_n of_o the_o bless_a virgin_n conception_n in_o original_a some_o 3._o some_o canus_n â—oâ—_n theol._n l._n 7._o c._n 1_o n._n 1._o n._n 3._o receive_v of_o the_o sacrament_n by_o child_n 25._o child_n rejoynder_n pag._n 25._o and_o the_o opinion_n of_o the_o millenaries_n 233._o millenaries_n sixtus_n senens_fw-la bibl._n sancta_fw-la l._n 5._o c._n 233._o of_o the_o vulgar_a read_n of_o the_o scripture_n 145._o scripture_n rejoynder_n p._n 139._o 14â—_n 145._o communion_n in_o both_o kind_n 116._o kind_n rejoynder_n pag._n 116._o that_o the_o book_n of_o toâ—y_n judith_n and_o the_o macchabee_n be_v apocryphal_a 166._o apocryphal_a rejoynder_n pag._n 166._o 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pergaâ—â—s_n â—4_n pergaâ—â—s_n revel_v â—_o â—4_n and_o therefore_o the_o jesuite_n may_v consider_v how_o weak_a a_o rule_n he_o will_v persuade_v we_o to_o follow_v as_o if_o this_o argument_n be_v concludent_fw-la because_o we_o hold_v a_o particular_a church_n a_o true_a church_n therefore_o that_o church_n
〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d unto_o she_o so_o that_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d safe_o follow_v her_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d rest_n in_o her_o judgement_n in_o thâ—â—_n i_o say_v general_a counceil_n may_v 〈◊〉_d in_o 〈◊〉_d of_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d the_o church_n herself_o from_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d of_o christian_a religion_n and_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d in_o all_o this_o be_v a_o â—ad_a beginning_n be_v a_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d the_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d he_o i_o lay_v down_o 〈…〉_o first_o that_o the_o church_n include_v in_o iâ—_n all_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d christ_n appear_v in_o the_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d and_o 〈◊〉_d of_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d second_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d all_o those_o 〈◊〉_d that_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d apostle_n time_n iâ—_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d all_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d happy_o not_o from_o all_o ignorance_n three_o that_o the_o church_n include_v 〈◊〉_d the_o â—eleivers_n live_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d free_v not_o only_o from_o 〈◊〉_d in_o such_o thing_n 〈…〉_o to_o 〈◊〉_d and_o 〈◊〉_d 〈…〉_o thing_n that_o any_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d to_o christian_a 〈◊〉_d and_o religion_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d without_o all_o doubt_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d the_o judgement_n of_o the_o church_n in_o 〈…〉_o so_o â—â—_o to_o the_o thing_n 〈◊〉_d in_o scripture_n or_o 〈◊〉_d by_o the_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d that_o â—ath_v be_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d because_o as_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d the_o church_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d church_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d of_o 〈◊〉_d or_o rome_n but_o the_o universal_a church_n neither_o that_o universal_a church_n which_o 〈◊〉_d be_v gather_v together_o in_o a_o general_a council_n which_o be_v 〈◊〉_d sometime_o to_o have_v err_v but_o that_o which_o disperse_v through_o the_o world_n from_o the_o baptism_n of_o john_n continue_v to_o 〈◊〉_d time_n six_o that_o in_o the_o judgement_n of_o waldensis_n the_o father_n successive_o be_v more_o certain_a judge_n in_o matter_n of_o faith_n then_o a_o general_n council_n of_o bishop_n though_o it_o be_v in_o a_o sort_n the_o high_a court_n of_o the_o church_n as_o the_o treatiser_n say_v but_o say_v the_o jesuite_n if_o yet_o for_o all_o this_o our_o answerer_n will_v not_o be_v bring_v to_o build_v his_o conscience_n upon_o any_o other_o authority_n 32_o authority_n reply_v pag._n 32_o i_o perceive_v a_o little_a thing_n will_v beget_v conâ—idence_n 〈◊〉_d jesuite_n that_o be_v so_o lift_v up_o with_o produce_v two_o old_a objection_n to_o little_a purpose_n but_o what_o then_o why_o majora_fw-la his_o agreat_a one_o of_o our_o own_o shall_v school_v he_o a_o little_a better_o pooâ—e_a â—edant_n in_o what_o manner_n by_o tell_v he_o out_o of_o lyriâ—ensis_n that_o the_o ancient_a consent_n of_o godly_a father_n be_v with_o great_a carâ—_n not_o only_o to_o be_v search_v but_o also_o to_o be_v follow_v of_o we_o chief_o in_o the_o rule_n of_o faith_n ibid._n reply_v ibid._n as_o if_o the_o consent_n of_o father_n be_v the_o absolute_a rule_n of_o faith_n without_o scripture_n when_o you_o yourselves_o dare_v not_o attribute_v to_o any_o father_n authority_n &_o power_n to_o express_v the_o rule_n of_o faith_n by_o their_o bare_a consent_n for_o durand_n say_v that_o although_o the_o church_n have_v power_n of_o gâ—â—_n on_o 〈◊〉_d yet_o that_o do_v not_o exceed_v thâ—_n limitation_n of_o the_o scripture_n scripturae_fw-la scripture_n durand_n â—â—_o dist._n 44._o q._n 3._o â—_o 9_o ecclesia_fw-la licet_fw-la habet_fw-la in_o terris_fw-la dominationem_fw-la dei._n illa_fw-la tamen_fw-la â—on_n excedit_fw-la limitationem_fw-la scripturae_fw-la universal_a extent_n of_o doctrine_n be_v a_o good_a directory_n to_o truth_n but_o the_o absolute_a foundation_n of_o faith_n be_v the_o sacred_a scripture_n neither_o be_v we_o at_o all_o to_o give_v credit_n say_v the_o author_n of_o the_o imperfect_a work_n upon_o matthew_n among_o the_o work_n of_o chrysostome_n unto_o the_o church_n themselves_o unless_o they_o teach_v or_o do_v those_o thing_n which_o be_v agreeable_a to_o the_o scripture_n scripture_n scripture_n 〈◊〉_d commentar_n in_o mat._n homil_n 49._o inte_n operâ—_fw-la s._n chrys_n incerto_fw-la auctore_fw-la nec_fw-la ipsis_fw-la ecclesijs_fw-la omnino_fw-la â—redendum_fw-la est_fw-la niâ—â—â—a_fw-la dicant_fw-la vel_fw-la faciant_fw-la quae_fw-la convenientia_fw-la sunt_fw-la scripture_n no_o testimony_n have_v any_o strength_n that_o walk_v without_o god_n &_o his_o word_n the_o father_n adhere_v to_o the_o scripture_n &_o therefore_o we_o ought_v to_o adhere_v to_o they_o &_o so_o be_v we_o to_o embrace_v the_o authority_n of_o the_o ancient_a doctor_n &_o counsel_n as_o those_o that_o embrace_v the_o holy_a scripture_n in_o their_o faith_n &_o doctrine_n and_o for_o that_o cause_n this_o learned_a bishop_n couple_v they_o together_o we_o rest_v say_v he_o upon_o the_o scripture_n of_o god_n upon_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o ancient_a doctor_n and_o counsel_n 31_o reply_v pag._n 31_o infer_v thereby_o that_o those_o which_o fix_v their_o faith_n have_v not_o only_o divine_a testimony_n but_o also_o the_o judgement_n and_o belief_n of_o the_o best_a man_n to_o declare_v the_o same_o as_o good_a subsidiarie_n help_v to_o their_o convince_a ground_n which_o do_v not_o conclude_v that_o any_o authority_n beside_o the_o scripture_n be_v necessary_a but_o that_o it_o be_v a_o fair_a &_o convenient_a rule_n to_o bridle_v man_n fancy_n lest_o the_o scripture_n shall_v be_v wrest_v by_o they_o which_o be_v too_o much_o wed_v to_o their_o own_o conceit_n to_o patronage_n their_o error_n and_o what_o augustine_n give_v to_o bishop_n and_o counsel_n this_o learned_a bishop_n assent_v unto_o but_o i_o be_o assure_v that_o the_o jesuite_n will_v not_o be_v able_a to_o prove_v that_o s._n augustine_n ever_o embrace_v such_o a_o thought_n as_o to_o believe_v that_o the_o receive_n of_o humane_a testimony_n shall_v disable_v the_o scripture_n from_o be_v the_o only_o conclude_v and_o sufficient_a rule_n for_o he_o be_v of_o a_o quite_o contrary_a opinion_n as_o be_v apparent_a in_o many_o place_n of_o his_o writing_n comparata_fw-la aâ—g_v â—_o donat._n post_n collat_n c._n 1â—_n quâ—si_fw-la episcoporum_fw-la concilia_fw-la scripture_n canonicis_fw-la fue_z â—int_n aliquandâ—_n comparata_fw-la neither_o will_v our_o jesuite_n have_v we_o in_o our_o appâ—â—le_n to_o scripture_n to_o betray_v our_o cause_n by_o our_o disagreement_n with_o our_o self_n alone_o but_o also_o by_o our_o agreement_n with_o ancient_a heretic_n and_o who_o be_v those_o heretic_n the_o valentinian_o ennomian_o marcionist_n arian_n and_o other_o whâ—_n as_o it_o be_v well_o know_v say_v this_o jesuite_n be_v wâ—nt_a to_o reject_v all_o other_o authority_n and_o to_o â—â—nce_n with_o scripture_n only_o â—â—_o reply_v pag._n â—â—_o if_o this_o jesuite_n be_v not_o a_o fencer_n judge_v by_o his_o weapon_n both_o edge_n and_o point_n be_v rebate_v for_o his_o most_o powerful_a performance_n end_v not_o so_o much_o as_o in_o a_o scratch_n or_o scar_n and_o whereas_o he_o say_v we_o fence_v with_o scripture_n only_o it_o seem_v he_o know_v not_o the_o nature_n thereof_o otherwise_o he_o will_v repute_v it_o with_o the_o apostle_n a_o sword_n for_o a_o soldier_n yea_o sharp_a than_o a_o two-edged_a sword_n we_o acknowledge_v many_o subsidiarie_n help_v but_o indeed_o none_o sufficient_a to_o control_v the_o conscience_n but_o scripture_n only_o and_o herein_o we_o follow_v these_o ancient_a heretic_n 1._o augustâ—â—â—_n cite_v by_o the_o most_o learned_a answerer_n and_o unanswered_a by_o the_o jesuite_n let_v humane_a writing_n be_v remove_v let_v god_n voice_n sound_n donati_n aug._n de_fw-fr pastor_n c._n 14._o aâ—ferantur_fw-la chartae_fw-la humanae_fw-la sonâ—â—t_fw-la voâ—â—s_fw-la divinae_fw-la ede_fw-mi mihi_fw-la unam_fw-la scripturae_fw-la â—ocem_fw-la pro_fw-la parte_fw-la donati_n and_o further_o in_o his_o book_n of_o the_o unity_n of_o the_o church_n he_o say_v let_v they_o declare_v their_o church_n if_o they_o be_v able_a not_o in_o the_o speech_n and_o rumour_n of_o the_o african_n not_o in_o counsel_n of_o their_o bishop_n not_o in_o the_o passage_n of_o their_o dispute_n not_o in_o their_o â—ignes_n &_o deceitful_a wonder_n because_o even_o against_o these_o thing_n the_o word_n of_o god_n have_v persuade_v we_o to_o be_v â—aâ—y_n but_o in_o the_o law_n prophet_n psalm_n the_o pastor_n voice_n the_o evangelist_n preach_v and_o labour_n that_o be_v in_o all_o the_o canonical_a authority_n of_o holy_a scripture_n authoritatibus_fw-la scripture_n aug._n de_fw-fr vnit._n eccle._n c._n 88_o ecclesiam_fw-la svam_fw-la demonstrant_fw-la si_fw-la possunt_fw-la non_fw-la iâ—_n sermonibus_fw-la &_o rumoribus_fw-la afrorum_fw-la non_fw-la in_o concilijs_fw-la episcoporum_fw-la suorum_fw-la non_fw-la in_o literis_fw-la 〈◊〉_d libet_fw-la disputatorum_fw-la non_fw-la in_o signis_fw-la &_o prodigijs_fw-la â—allaâ—ibus_fw-la qui_fw-la etiam_fw-la contra_fw-la ista_fw-la verbo_fw-la domini_fw-la prâ—parati_fw-la &_o cautiâ—â—ddiâ—i_fw-la sumus_fw-la
be_v 〈…〉_o father_n 〈…〉_o and_o say_n of_o all_o and_o 〈…〉_o time_n 〈◊〉_d religion_n and_o therefore_o it_o will_v be_v much_o more_o 〈◊〉_d to_o find_v out_o their_o general_a consent_n that_o aâ—â—_n so_o lâ—ng_a deâ—â—_n and_o there_o he_o will_v â—â—ve_v the_o reader_n 〈◊〉_d that_o the_o agreement_n thou_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d one_o 〈◊〉_d which_o iâ—_n not_o otherwise_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d by_o the_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d â—â—â—â—â—led_v the_o general_a conâ—ent_n of_o ancient_a father_n and_o to_o prove_v this_o he_o have_v urge_v s._n augustine_n that_o when_o he_o dispute_v 〈◊〉_d the_o pelagâ—â—â—s_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d the_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d of_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d father_n he_o thougâ—â—â—â—_n have_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d thereby_o the_o common_a â—aith_n of_o the_o whâ—â—e_a church_n and_o the_o 〈◊〉_d of_o ephesâ—â—_n have_v produce_v â—â—t_n â—en_o father_n make_v no_o 〈◊〉_d but_o thaâ—_n by_o theâ—â—_n agree_v authority_n the_o consent_n of_o the_o whole_a church_n wâ—â—_n fâ—lly_a 〈◊〉_d against_o nestâ—riâ—â—_n for_o â—â—_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d doubt_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d but_o thâ—sâ—_n 〈◊〉_d do_v iâ—_n judgement_n agree_v with_o all_o the_o rest_n of_o their_o 〈◊〉_d 95._o reply_v pag._n 94_o 95._o but_o all_o the_o whâ—â—e_o he_o do_v little_o consider_v that_o his_o own_o do_v not_o agree_v with_o he_o what_o make_v the_o consent_n of_o father_n for_o 〈◊〉_d will_v haâ—e_v those_o to_o be_v counâ—â—â—_n all_o the_o doctor_n that_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d be_v just_o 〈◊〉_d from_o the_o 〈◊〉_d of_o their_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d and_o 〈◊〉_d and_o the_o rest_n neglect_v 〈◊〉_d greg._n de_fw-fr valen_n loco_fw-la supra_fw-la citat_fw-la omnes_fw-la esse_fw-la censentur_fw-la iâ—_n quorum_fw-la 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d omnibus_fw-la consideratis_fw-la â—ruditionis_fw-la piâ—tatis_fw-la 〈◊〉_d etc._n etc._n ut_fw-la à _fw-la prudentibus_fw-la certè_fw-la â—â—â—um_fw-la solummodò_fw-la ratio_fw-la habeâ—i_fw-la debâ—â—t_fw-la câ—â—â—ris_fw-la neglectis_fw-la quasi_fw-la nihil_fw-la 〈◊〉_d si_fw-la cum_fw-la illis_fw-la 〈◊〉_d etc._n etc._n 〈◊〉_d â—â—_o be_v of_o 〈◊〉_d that_o 〈◊〉_d of_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d collect_v by_o hiâ—_n practiâ—â—_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d say_v he_o concâ—â—â—ing_n augustiâ—â—_n who_o 〈◊〉_d malachy'_v dayâ—â—â—_n sacrifice_v of_o 〈◊〉_d and_o pâ—â—yers_n of_o 〈◊〉_d and_o 〈◊〉_d in_o the_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d â—â—_o â—_o aâ—or_fw-es inst_z mor_fw-fr part_n 1._o lib_n 10_o cap._n â—â—_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d there_o be_v onâ—_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d â—_z â—â—â—ing_a thâ—â—_n be_v 〈◊〉_d the_o rest_n now_o if_o 〈◊〉_d take_v consent_n of_o father_n according_a to_o 〈◊〉_d than_o we_o â—inde_v a_o conseâ—t_n of_o father_n in_o a_o point_n of_o 〈◊〉_d against_o 〈◊〉_d catholic_a church_n â—â—_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d father_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d origâ—â—_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d aâ—brose_n tradiderunt_fw-la â—_o stapleton_n deâ—ens_n ecclesiastic_a 〈…〉_o quod_fw-la 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d it_o 〈◊〉_d 〈…〉_o non_fw-it 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see_v before_o â—_o â—05_n â—06_n second_o counsel_n as_o conciliuâ—_fw-la siâ—â—â—â—â—an_n &_o 〈◊〉_d suâ—_n sylvestrâ—_n 20â—_n sylvestrâ—_n see_v before_o p_o 203._o 204._o 20â—_n three_o canon_n as_o those_o of_o nice_a pretend_a to_o the_o bishop_n of_o africa_n and_o the_o arabian_a to_o the_o whole_a world_n â—73_n world_n see_v before_o p._n â—73_n epistle_n as_o your_o deâ—â—â—â—â—ls_n never_o hear_v of_o in_o antiquity_n but_o invent_v by_o your_o merchant_n when_o rome_n have_v forget_v to_o speak_v in_o her_o ancient_a elegancy_n 202_o elegancy_n see_v before_o p_o 202_o beside_o false_a title_n have_v be_v give_v to_o book_n but_o by_o who_o for_o who_o benefit_n you_o can_v judge_v if_o this_o be_v not_o forge_v and_o â—â—yâ—ing_v charge_n â—s_v with_o falsehood_n but_o if_o i_o shall_v at_o large_a prosecute_v this_o it_o will_v trouble_v patience_n itself_o to_o attend_v beside_o be_v it_o not_o forge_v and_o coin_v to_o cite_v from_o a_o father_n that_o which_o he_o never_o spâ—keâ—_n as_o your_o aquinas_n have_v doâ—e_n from_o s._n cyrillâ—_n thesaurus_fw-la in_o the_o point_n of_o supremacy_n a_o evidence_n applaud_v beyond_o all_o other_o for_o say_v canus_n all_o other_o anthor_n never_o
what_o fetch_v they_o use_v to_o drag_v the_o people_n to_o their_o opinion_n so_o they_o may_v sway_v in_o the_o church_n of_o god_n and_o tyrannize_v with_o their_o antichristian_a sceptre_n over_o the_o kingdom_n of_o saint_n the_o jesuite_n before_o he_o leave_v off_o will_v fain_o say_v something_o for_o himself_o and_o cause_n as_o first_o that_o wheresoever_o the_o father_n do_v profess_v they_o in_o their_o work_n they_o never_o tell_v he_o that_o they_o hold_v they_o for_o opinion_n rather_o than_o for_o point_n of_o faith_n 95_o faith_n reply_v pag._n 95_o which_o we_o acknowledge_v for_o indeed_o there_o be_v no_o such_o profession_n in_o the_o father_n yet_o i_o think_v and_o upon_o good_a ground_n if_o they_o have_v know_v of_o any_o such_o fundamental_a point_n some_o will_v have_v declare_v they_o to_o the_o church_n second_o he_o confess_v that_o some_o of_o the_o say_a point_n be_v not_o declare_v by_o the_o church_n in_o former_a age_n to_o be_v necessary_a and_o 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own_o profession_n he_o be_v deceive_v his_o conjecture_n be_v far_o from_o the_o ground_n that_o be_v follow_v by_o the_o most_o learned_a answerer_n and_o how_o far_o it_o be_v from_o divine_a to_o express_v a_o truth_n any_o will_v apprehend_v that_o know_v that_o divine_a have_v relation_n to_o thing_n to_o come_v and_o not_o to_o thing_n past_a but_o what_o he_o promise_v in_o the_o next_o chapter_n we_o will_v examine_v whereby_o i_o think_v we_o may_v come_v to_o more_o perfect_a knowledge_n of_o their_o catholic_a frâ—â—des_n though_o not_o of_o their_o 〈◊〉_d as_o he_o will_v persuade_v sect_n xii_o the_o jesuite_n have_v travail_v in_o the_o defence_n of_o certain_a point_n from_o the_o father_n testimony_n that_o be_v not_o of_o the_o foundation_n of_o faith_n and_o fear_v to_o be_v censure_v by_o lyrinensis_n who_o say_v that_o the_o aunciâ—â—t_a consent_n of_o the_o holy_a father_n be_v with_o great_a care_n to_o be_v sâ—ught_v and_o follow_v by_o we_o not_o in_o every_o petty_a question_n belong_v to_o the_o law_n of_o god_n but_o one_o 〈◊〉_d at_o least_o principal_o in_o the_o rule_n of_o faith_n 26._o faith_n see_v the_o testimony_n urge_v by_o the_o most_o reverend_a the_o lord_n primate_n in_o his_o answer_n to_o the_o jesuite_n challenge_v pag._n 26._o do_v in_o this_o section_n inquire_v hâ—â—â—_n a_o point_n of_o faith_n may_v be_v discern_v from_o a_o indifferent_a opinion_n in_o religion_n 96._o religion_n reply_v p._n 96._o and_o declare_v the_o reason_n of_o his_o so_o do_v forasmuch_o say_v he_o â—â—_o our_o answerer_n affirm_v that_o all_o the_o point_n by_o i_o lay_v down_o in_o my_o demand_n be_v not_o chief_a article_n i_o think_v it_o meet_v by_o this_o disputation_n to_o disproove_v he_o herein_o and_o to_o shâ—w_v that_o they_o be_v all_o such_o chief_a article_n of_o faith_n at_o the_o obstinate_a denial_n of_o any_o of_o they_o deprive_v a_o man_n of_o all_o true_a belief_n and_o make_v he_o a_o faithless_a heretic_n for_o performance_n whereof_o we_o be_v first_o to_o inquire_v which_o be_v the_o way_n or_o certain_a rule_n to_o know_v a_o article_n of_o faith_n from_o a_o indifferent_a opinion_n and_o that_o be_v find_v out_o by_o square_n the_o say_v point_n thereby_o we_o shall_v easy_o understand_v whether_o they_o be_v thief_n article_n yea_o or_o â—â—_o 96_o â—â—_o reply_v pag._n 96_o now_o in_o this_o passage_n the_o jesuite_n meet_v not_o at_o all_o with_o the_o most_o learned_a answerer_n observation_n for_o he_o deny_v all_o the_o point_v propound_v by_o the_o jesuite_n to_o be_v chief_a article_n in_o regard_n of_o those_o which_o be_v more_o necessary_a &_o fundamental_a which_o only_o be_v to_o be_v inquire_v of_o by_o consent_n of_o father_n in_o lirinensis_n his_o judgement_n â—_o judgement_n see_v above_o light_v â—_o and_o not_o because_o in_o their_o own_o nature_n they_o be_v indifferent_a for_o if_o he_o shall_v conceit_n they_o such_o why_o shall_v he_o style_v you_o heretic_n for_o 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take_v some_o brief_a view_v of_o this_o discourse_n also_o and_o first_o he_o except_v against_o the_o scripture_n these_o must_v be_v no_o rule_n whereby_o to_o discern_v chief_a article_n of_o faith_n from_o indifferent_a opinion_n in_o religion_n nay_o to_o make_v scripture_n the_o rule_n be_v but_o to_o shake_v hand_n with_o all_o condemn_a heretic_n 96_o reply_v pag._n 96_o and_o this_o he_o tell_v we_o he_o have_v already_o discover_v but_o fear_v lest_o it_o be_v in_o conceit_n and_o opinion_n only_o he_o be_v here_o resolve_v further_a to_o prosecute_v the_o same_o and_o lay_v this_o for_o his_o ground_n there_o be_v many_o confess_v point_n of_o faith_n which_o be_v not_o in_o any_o sort_n express_v or_o as_o much_o as_o once_o touch_v by_o the_o scripture_n ibid._n scripture_n ibid._n sure_o they_o be_v of_o the_o popish_a creed_n or_o not_o at_o all_o for_o the_o catholic_a church_n teach_v none_o as_o necessary_a to_o salvation_n but_o what_o be_v contain_v in_o the_o 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