Selected quad for the lemma: religion_n

Word A	Word B	Word C	Word D	Occurrence	Frequency Band	MI	MI Band	Prominent
religion_n	article_n	church_n	true_a	3,598	5	5.1162	4	false

Text snippets containing the quad

ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A33377	Mr. Claude's answer to Monsieur de Meaux's book, intituled, A conference with Mr. Claude with his letter to a friend, wherein he answers a discourse of M. de Condom, now Bishop of Meaux, concerning the Church.; Reponse au livre de Monsieur l'évesque de Meaux, intitulé Conférence avec M. Claude. English	Claude, Jean, 1619-1687.; Bossuet, Jacques Bénigne, 1627-1704.	1687 (1687)	Wing C4591; ESTC R17732	130,139	128

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prove_v the_o church_n visible_a according_a to_o the_o scripture_n and_o t._n augustine_n hypothesis_n nay_o i_o will_v go_v further_o yet_o for_o it_o be_v true_a that_o upon_o some_o occasion_n hypocrite_n do_v plain_o distinguish_v themselves_o from_o true_a believer_n and_o upon_o some_o other_o occasion_n true_a believer_n do_v plain_o make_v a_o personal_a distinction_n of_o themselves_o from_o hypocrite_n for_o instance_n when_o we_o see_v man_n drown_v in_o vice_n inconsistent_a with_o true_a faith_n when_o we_o see_v they_o throw_v themselves_o into_o superstition_n and_o error_n that_o be_v contrary_a to_o the_o true_a doctrine_n and_o worship_n of_o god_n though_o they_o abide_v still_o in_o the_o same_o congregation_n with_o other_o and_o communicate_v in_o the_o same_o sacrament_n yet_o this_o make_v a_o negative_a distinction_n so_o as_o we_o may_v say_v these_o be_v not_o the_o true_a